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Hi all,
I think I've managed to partially brick my phone, the bizarre thing is that it still mostly works, but I've lost PC connectivity, Wi-Fi and the SD card!
Had my Hero (on Orange UK, standard Orange ROMs) for a while, so thought it about time to play with rooting it and trying some new ROMs out.
Installed Amon-Ra's recovery image (v1.5.2), did a nandroid backup, copied everything obvious off the SD card to my PC (usual precautions).
1. Installed Amon-Ra recovery 1.6.2 - all ok
2. re-flashed with the rooted "stock" HTC image 2.73.405.66, and latest radio (JU6.35.09.26) - all looked ok for a few days
3. decided to try out one of the android 2.1 roms (BeHero) - that got stuck on the boot logo for about 50 mins, so figured that wasn't working.
So tried re-flashing the 2.74.305.66 as that was still on the SD card. That kept re-booting, so I gave up and restored my nandroid backup.
Then things really went wierd!
1. On boot-up I get a notification that the SD card has been removed, even though it is there. Will try to get a clean one, and re-format on the PC, but I'm guessing the partition table has been corrupted?
2. Wi-Fi doesn't work - it just says "Can't start Wi-Fi"
3. If I look in the ROM settings, I'm clearly using the rooted 2.73.405.66 and latest radio! My nandroid backup should have been the default Orange ROM and old radio, and I've definitely went back to that in terms of apps, setttings, etc... Not sure how I still have the new ROM!
4. No PC connectivity (this is a bummer), when I plugin I get "USB device not recognized" on the PC, and the phone claims it is "charging (AC)", I don't get the usual notifications about USB mounting or syncing. So ADB/fastoot don't see it. Not sure if this is related to the SD issue, or the ROM version (maybe I've got a mis-match somewhere)
Other than that, the phone works fine, I can sync with google, internet (though that is a bit flaky), and download apps. Battery life seems to be down to 1 day though, so maybe I still have some android 2.1 stuff lurking around.
Without an SD, I can't download any ROMs though, and without a PC connection, I can't use nandroid or try to debug it that way... Guess I'm stuck?
Anyway, just curious if anyone had any suggestions.
Cheers.
Dan
did you do a wipe before you restored the nandroid restore? if not then thats the problem, always do a data wipe before restoring nandroid backups
have you tried reflashing the radio? also try to wipe after restoring the nandroid, just in case.
edit: valid point about wiping BEFORE flashing. what i meant is that if that doesn't work, try to wipe after restoring as well and see if it boots then.
cheers, no I didn't do a wipe as I figured the nandroid restore was the whole of the ROM, so it would overwrite everything.
Done a wipe now but still no joy. Can't reflash anything without SD or PC access...
Still confused as to why the restore has clearly left a newer ROM in place...
can't you just enter recovery do a wipe and then re flash the rom. recovery should have access to the sd card regardless of what state the rom is in.
I thought you should have tried it, but on a second read, did you try mounting the SD card through recovery?
Hi,
I just tried that again, and even the recovery tool can't mount the SD card, I have re-formatted it and have a clean 2Gb one as well, neither can be seen from the recovery partition.
Looks like I've managed to get it in some really bizare state, my gf says I should have left it alone, don't think I'm ever going to live this down
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Hi,
I just tried that again, and even the recovery tool can't mount the SD card, I have re-formatted it and have a clean 2Gb one as well, neither can be seen from the recovery partition.
Looks like I've managed to get it in some really bizare state, my gf says I should have left it alone, don't think I'm ever going to live this down
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Have you tried powering up WITHOUT the sd in, then once it is fully loaded, insert ur SD and see if it picks anything up.
just tried that, no joy...
the loss of PC comms is confusing me too, even in recovery mode... might have to claim I dropped it and send it back to orange!
Eventually managed to sort this out, the phone had gone into some strange testing mode, that disabled the uart (USB) and the sdcard.
Found a really useful post on Modaco's forums, search for "No ADB & No SD", look for post #81.
Turned out I had to use fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 to turn on the SD card (at which point WiFi magically started working again!), then reflash the SPL (scary!) which allowed the mystical command "fastboot oem eraseconfig" that also re-enabled the UART and USB connectivity was restored!
As a bonus, I now have SPL 1.76.2007 which has the fastboot holes in, and allows me to remote boot a recovery image. Previously I had 1.76.007 which was locked against that (so had to reflash recovery).
Just goes to show there is almost always a way back!
Excellent,... I this may just help out others.
Do us a favour though pal,... press edit on your 1st post, to change your thread title. Maybe "Nandroid restore left other stuff around?... No ADB, No SD,...... [SOLVED]
A little over a month ago I flashed the damagecontrol ROM and haven't looked back. Aside from having 2.1 early, I was also able to access su features, blah blah blah. My question is: I am still losing internal memory even after enabling A2SD, partitioning my SD card into three sections (ext3, swap, and probably fat32 or something). I noticed a gain of about 40mb right away but each time I download a program my internal memory shrinks. Any ideas? I'm not a pro at this but really wanting to learn.
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joshuaharp said:
A little over a month ago I flashed the damagecontrol ROM and haven't looked back. Aside from having 2.1 early, I was also able to access su features, blah blah blah. My question is: I am still losing internal memory even after enabling A2SD, partitioning my SD card into three sections (ext3, swap, and probably fat32 or something). I noticed a gain of about 40mb right away but each time I download a program my internal memory shrinks. Any ideas? I'm not a pro at this but really wanting to learn.
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Even with A2SD there are still files that get written to internal storage for cacheing. You will see your memory go down.
Ah. I didn't realize that. Are there other ways to free up the internal memory? I'm down to around 25mb...
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If you have a nice class of sd card you could move dalvik to sd. That freed up a good spot of memory for me.
the same thing is going on with my phone i only see an added 40mb onto the internal storage when i put on a2sd,when i hear about other kids that get around 90mb when using a2sd.
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If you have a nice class of sd card you could move dalvik to sd. That freed up a good spot of memory for me.
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I just threw a 4GB Class 6 in and partitioned it. Before that I was running the stock 2GB (Class 2 I think). I've been considering a few options but not sure what the process should be and how to proceed:
- dalvik cache to sd
- jit compiling (alhtough, I've almost completely ruled this out due to rumors of instability issues)
- swapping sd (I'm not sure if this will have ill-effects on my system or not)
I would feel at more liberty to experiment if I knew what to do if my phone ran into an error that crippled it (i.e., stuck in boot loop). I'm really fresh to this, so it's a bit intimidating at first.
joshuaharp said:
I would feel at more liberty to experiment if I knew what to do if my phone ran into an error that crippled it (i.e., stuck in boot loop). I'm really fresh to this, so it's a bit intimidating at first.
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Before you read one more post on this forum go install RA-Amon's recovery and make a nandroid backup. Then copy the backup folder onto your computer.
That is if you haven't already done so. This will save you a lot of trouble should something go wrong, unless you really do something spectacular.
Edit: Just checked my internal memory. 149mb free and I have a handfull of apps installed atm.
On another note I flashed the godmode overclocked kernel, the 768 one or whatever, and installed setcpu, and my god my phone is fast. Current settings are max 767, min: 518. Yes my min is fairly high but at 518 it is butter smooth and I have multiple batteries so...
willowmp said:
Before you read one more post on this forum go install RA-Amon's recovery and make a nandroid backup. Then copy the backup folder onto your computer.
That is if you haven't already done so. This will save you a lot of trouble should something go wrong, unless you really do something spectacular.
Edit: Just checked my internal memory. 149mb free and I have a handfull of apps installed atm.
On another note I flashed the godmode overclocked kernel, the 768 one or whatever, and installed setcpu, and my god my phone is fast. Current settings are max 767, min: 518. Yes my min is fairly high but at 518 it is butter smooth and I have multiple batteries so...
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This kernel (.29 kernel, right?) is one I've been recently considering. I've made a nandroid backup through ROM Manager (is this as good as RA-Amon's recovery?). I'm not sure what to do with this should something go wrong...unless I can boot up and have access to the ROM Manager app – I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Some questions:
concerning flashing a recovery
- what exactly does this do? (as I understand it, it writes a recovery file to my sd card, so that i can boot up in recovery mode should something cause my os to fail...is this correct?)
concerning the godmode overclocked kernel
- how long have you had this flashed on your phone?
- can I flash over my current ROM (damagecontrol 2.08.1)?
- will I lose info and have to wipe everything not on my SD card?
- I've partitioned my sd card for A2SD, will this cause problems?
- how long is your battery life on average?
Thanks dude.
willowmp said:
Before you read one more post on this forum go install RA-Amon's recovery and make a nandroid backup. Then copy the backup folder onto your computer.
That is if you haven't already done so. This will save you a lot of trouble should something go wrong, unless you really do something spectacular.
Edit: Just checked my internal memory. 149mb free and I have a handfull of apps installed atm.
On another note I flashed the godmode overclocked kernel, the 768 one or whatever, and installed setcpu, and my god my phone is fast. Current settings are max 767, min: 518. Yes my min is fairly high but at 518 it is butter smooth and I have multiple batteries so...
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What did you set your swap and ext on when you partitioned your sd
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What did you set your swap and ext on when you partitioned your sd
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ext: 1024 (or whatever the first 1gig choice is, I believe it is something like this)
swap: 30 (I believe, or whatever it automatically pops up as when formatting)
Through Dconfig I have apps2sd, dalvik to sd, and sd swapping with the default 30mb enabled.
Dalvik heap is set to 16mb and lowmemkiller set to less. JIT not enabled.
Current version DamageControl, the 768 overclocked kernel and toast's newest radio.
joshuaharp said:
This kernel (.29 kernel, right?) is one I've been recently considering. I've made a nandroid backup through ROM Manager (is this as good as RA-Amon's recovery?). I'm not sure what to do with this should something go wrong...unless I can boot up and have access to the ROM Manager app – I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Some questions:
concerning flashing a recovery
- what exactly does this do? (as I understand it, it writes a recovery file to my sd card, so that i can boot up in recovery mode should something cause my os to fail...is this correct?)
concerning the godmode overclocked kernel
- how long have you had this flashed on your phone?
- can I flash over my current ROM (damagecontrol 2.08.1)?
- will I lose info and have to wipe everything not on my SD card?
- I've partitioned my sd card for A2SD, will this cause problems?
- how long is your battery life on average?
Thanks dude.
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RA-Amon's custom recovery is a must and is vastly more important than a back-up app. RA-Amon's recovery is an actual recovery image, thus as long as your phone boots up to the HTC logo you should be able to access RA-Amon's recovery and thus restore the backup before the phone is even accessing the rom.
Flashing a recovery image is like flashing a rom, but instead of a rom you are flashing a recovery image. Your phone has a stock recovery image on it right now, I don't know the key combo but hold a certain pattern of keys down while turning the phone on and you will enter it. It looks I think like a triangle with an ! in the middle or something. This is sorta useless for us though because I don't think you can really do much with it.
When you flash a recovery img (RA-Amon's) that stock recovery image is just replaced with Amon's. After you do flash the recovery holding the HOME and power button to turn the phone on and continuing to hold it will cause you to enter Amon's recovery, which is a green menu. From this menu you can amke backups/restore them, wipe the data on the phone (factory reset), flash .zips (roms, bootscreens, themes, kernels) and other things.
What you are referring to the writing backup to sd card is called nandroid. Nandroid is an option in the recovery, so yes if you do flash the wrong rom or your phone won't boot up (boot loop or whatever) as long as you can access recovery which is one of the first things loaded when you hit the power button (unless you really do something spectacular like flashing a gsm hero's radio you almost always will be able to get into recovery. don't even touch radios right now, flash the wrong one and your phone won't even turn on/charge. aka your motherboard will be totaled) so you will almost always be able to nandroid recovery your os if something does go wrong.
In short before you do anything flash the recovery.
Now on to your other questions. I have been running the overclocked kernel for one day, but it appears stable and seems to be working good for me. When you flash a kernel you always flash it over a rom, because if you do it the other way the rom will replace the kernel. So yes once you have damagecontrol or another rom that supports that kernel you can simply go into recovery and use flash .zip to flash the kernel over the rom. As always make sure to make a nandroid before doing so.
DamageControl supports apps2sd, and you enable it to use a2sd using the Dconfig app that is included in the rom. It is generally a good idea to partition your sd card whenever you switch between roms unless they say it is fine. You should go ahead and copy over a backup of your sd card to your computer, however you need not format or wipe your sd card when flashing roms. Honestly I don't think you need to partition your sd card again, unless after you flash the rom the os won't boot up all the way or loops/crashes. If it does then partition the sd card and try rebooting the phone and it should fix it.
Also you can format and partition your sd card in recovery under Other.
As for my battery life I have been switching b/w roms and such and I just started using the OC kernel, but with the DamageControl rom back when I only had that flashed my batt life was good.
However I do have 3 batteries and an external battery charger for my phone. Check out the accessories section of this forum, 2 batteries and the charger for 11 bucks from Hong Kong on ebay.
Hope I helped.
So, through the damagecontrol dconfig app I banned "sense", rebooted and now my phone is stuck in a bootloop. Do I restore from previous nandroid backup or do I need to flash my phone? Suck.
joshuaharp said:
So, through the damagecontrol dconfig app I banned "sense", rebooted and now my phone is stuck in a bootloop. Do I restore from previous nandroid backup or do I need to flash my phone? Suck.
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Just want to say first off: "I am an idiot". Nandroid backup from 5 days ago, booted up by holding *home and *power, then selecting to restore. Very easy. I can actually breathe now. Back in business. Sorry to waste your guy's time. We can keep the thread going minus my drama...
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Just want to say first off: "I am an idiot". Nandroid backup from 5 days ago, booted up by holding *home and *power, then selecting to restore. Very easy. I can actually breathe now. Back in business. Sorry to waste your guy's time. We can keep the thread going minus my drama...
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It's all good.
See why I emphasized flashing your recovery before messing with anything? xD
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What did you set your swap and ext on when you partitioned your sd
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I set the swap to 32mb and ext3 to 512mb I believe...does this sound right?
willowmp said:
RA-Amon's custom recovery is a must and is vastly more important than a back-up app. RA-Amon's recovery is an actual recovery image, thus as long as your phone boots up to the HTC logo you should be able to access RA-Amon's recovery and thus restore the backup before the phone is even accessing the rom.
Flashing a recovery image is like flashing a rom, but instead of a rom you are flashing a recovery image. Your phone has a stock recovery image on it right now, I don't know the key combo but hold a certain pattern of keys down while turning the phone on and you will enter it. It looks I think like a triangle with an ! in the middle or something. This is sorta useless for us though because I don't think you can really do much with it.
When you flash a recovery img (RA-Amon's) that stock recovery image is just replaced with Amon's. After you do flash the recovery holding the HOME and power button to turn the phone on and continuing to hold it will cause you to enter Amon's recovery, which is a green menu. From this menu you can amke backups/restore them, wipe the data on the phone (factory reset), flash .zips (roms, bootscreens, themes, kernels) and other things.
What you are referring to the writing backup to sd card is called nandroid. Nandroid is an option in the recovery, so yes if you do flash the wrong rom or your phone won't boot up (boot loop or whatever) as long as you can access recovery which is one of the first things loaded when you hit the power button (unless you really do something spectacular like flashing a gsm hero's radio you almost always will be able to get into recovery. don't even touch radios right now, flash the wrong one and your phone won't even turn on/charge. aka your motherboard will be totaled) so you will almost always be able to nandroid recovery your os if something does go wrong.
In short before you do anything flash the recovery.
Now on to your other questions. I have been running the overclocked kernel for one day, but it appears stable and seems to be working good for me. When you flash a kernel you always flash it over a rom, because if you do it the other way the rom will replace the kernel. So yes once you have damagecontrol or another rom that supports that kernel you can simply go into recovery and use flash .zip to flash the kernel over the rom. As always make sure to make a nandroid before doing so.
DamageControl supports apps2sd, and you enable it to use a2sd using the Dconfig app that is included in the rom. It is generally a good idea to partition your sd card whenever you switch between roms unless they say it is fine. You should go ahead and copy over a backup of your sd card to your computer, however you need not format or wipe your sd card when flashing roms. Honestly I don't think you need to partition your sd card again, unless after you flash the rom the os won't boot up all the way or loops/crashes. If it does then partition the sd card and try rebooting the phone and it should fix it.
Also you can format and partition your sd card in recovery under Other.
As for my battery life I have been switching b/w roms and such and I just started using the OC kernel, but with the DamageControl rom back when I only had that flashed my batt life was good.
However I do have 3 batteries and an external battery charger for my phone. Check out the accessories section of this forum, 2 batteries and the charger for 11 bucks from Hong Kong on ebay.
Hope I helped.
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Dude...helped IMMENSELY! I'm still digesting it.
That's good to know about flashing radios. I was going to flash the most recent one for 2.1 roms on CDMA heros, but I think I'll wait to hear more about it.
I think I feel comfortable flashing the .29 kernel over my current ROM. I gotta be honest though, the DConfig thing kind of weirds me out now, after trying to use it. I'm not sure which button is going to cause my phone to freak out.
If you have a nice class of sd card you could move dalvik to sd. That freed up a good spot of memory for me.
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I'm considering doing this but have read that this causes issues with nandroid backup. Have you experienced this?
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As the title says, I installed clockworkmod, but don't really know what to do next. When I installed it, it basically erased my nand and left me with no OS. From what I gather, this is right, and the machine would have been ready at that point to run update.zip files off of the sd card? But I can't get the computer to recognize the device at this point to place files on the sdcard. In addition, I had formatted my sdcard as was suggested, so I was stuck in clockworkmod, with a blank sdcard and no way to access it. Did I do something wrong? I'm sorry to sound like such a n00b, but I am trying to teach myself as much as I can about all of this with what I can glean from these forums, but this whole clockworkmod thing seems to get glossed over. I am also a bit confused as to what nandroid backup is. Thanks for the help.
You can mount your SD card in CWM, browse the menu a bit and you'll find it. Then copy your build.zip (it doesn't have to be called update.zip persé) to your SD card, unmount again and run the zip updater, all done through CWM. Easy as pie!
Nandroid backup is a full system backup to your SD card. It is advised to take one before flashing a new rom. If something goes wrong or you just don't like it, you can restore the nandroid backup and all your apps, settings, texts, ... literally everything are back to normal. Nandroid backups and restores are all done through CWM too.
What I appreciate most about having a recovery is that you don't need a computer anymore. Just download a rom to your SD card with your phone, boot into CWM, flash it, and voila, you're good to go. Got some sudden troubles? Just temp restore that nandroid backup from a couple of days ago and you'll manage till a computer is within reach. And so on...
Edit: I haven't slept for 40 hours, it's ****ing hard to read every word of a text right now so I'm just picking some and making the best out of it. I hope I correctly understood what you asked, if not I'll try again tomorrow.
To be honest, I'm not 100% steady when it comes to ClockWork Mod. I installed the excellent NexusHD2 Gingerbread NAND ROM, and that is "ClockWork Mod ready". I've used it for backing up my current build before trying another one, and then restoring everything afterwards, and I've also installed a couple of updates (GPS fix, YouTube delay fix).
I don't know about retro-fitting it to a ROM that you already have flashed on your device. As you say, you lose your current ROM, so I don't see how that's useful. (That's probably my lack of understanding of CWM, and I look forward to more educated responses on this thread!)
My recommendations would be to either spend the next couple of days reading up about CWM and find out exactly where you stand with it, or do what I did and just get a ROM that has it built in.
thanks guys. I think I'm figuring it out. If I have any more probs, you'll hear from me LOL!!
Hello
I have been running CM7.1 for the past few days without any problem except missing Wimax keys. This morning I decided to restore an old froyo sense nandroid backup to see whether 4G would work in that. I restored this clockwordmod backup using the RA_Supersonic recovery.
After the recovery completed the restore, my phone entered a boot loop only making it as far as the "4G" splash screen.
I wanted to try the restore again in the recovery, but it then could not mount my SD card. USB-MS from recovery was also not working so I could not connect to the card from my computer.
I did a "clear storage" from Hboot. Now, my phone actually makes it into the OS and I can do things in the OS, but only for about 1-2 mins before the next boot loop. Thus, during each boot loop, I have about 2 mins in the OS to try whatever I can.
When in the OS, file explorers like Astro cannot read my SD card anymore (the error says something like "cannot create cache"). The SD storage option in the settings menu also says the SD card is unavailable.
When I connect the phone to my computer, nothing happens, no option appears to set as mass storage.
ROM Manager cannot load the newest clockworkmod recovery because it needs an SD card to run.
I have tried another 2GB SD card, same thing happens.
I have tried to format the 8GB SD card using 1-pass zeros, still doesn't work in the phone.
Both of these cards work on my computer with a card reader.
Do any of you have any suggestions for me?
I'm not sure what else to try.
Thank you.
Try this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243
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Try this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243
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Thank you very much, this worked for me!
I had to download all the adb and fastboot files to be able to fix my SD card.
My USB was also not working from the OS, and even though my SD was fixed, I was still in a boot loop so I could not use terminal emulator to fix my USB - until I flashed a Mik rom which was more stable. CM 7.1 was not stable for me, it was also boot looping. I then accessed the terminal emulator from the Mik rom and fixed my USB.
teh roxxorz, if you feel like it and have got some time to kill, could you explain what the original problems were with my SD card and USB, and how I fixed them? For educational purposes...
4G not working even after restore to old backup
Now back to my original issue that started all this messing around... 4G not working.
I've now used clockwork to restore to some old clockwork backups I have, stock froyo from January, stock gingerbread from July.
In clockwork, I first restore the backup, then I go to advanced restore, and choose to restore the wimax.
4G is still not working: Scanning > Connecting to Sprint > Scanning > Connecting to Sprint > Disconnected.
In "about phone", the 4G mac address is not shown.
Wimax Key Checker says my EVO RSA key is present.
Any suggestions for this one?
Thanks in advance.
Hi. Ok so I rooted my NC to CM7 sometime last year, and now with all the blah about markets not working and having to do more about it, not to mention the PIA it is to get books on, I decided to put it back to stock. Which apparently was a big mistake.
First I mounted an older version of clockwork to the SD card, then when I figured that out (having format data error) I did the newer 3.2.x.x one. So that went good, I went through the steps and reformated data and system, and then went to upload the zip from the choose zip part, but it says there are no files. So I backed out, took out the SD and put it in my computer(Macbook pro) to try to put it in again but it wont show up at all? I tried looking in Disk Utility too and its not there. Any ideas where my card is? What do I do next?? I have nook complete restore 1.0.1, 1.0.0 and nook color update 1.4.1 on my desktop, I thought I had 1.0.1 on the SD card.
I've been reading and googling all over, I can't find what could've made my SD card disappear?
Thanks, I know you must get these all the time and I really appreciate your help-
Ok I didn't do anything, but it just started up to the little silver N and is now sitting there? Is that a good thing?
Don't panic. The NC is very hard to permanently brick. From what you've described, it sounds like your SD card may have gone bad or been corrupted. I'd just try again.
The 'n' logo is a good thing, but if it hangs there, be sure you've followed all the steps carefully. That's typically a sign that /data wasn't formatted, though from your description, you got that step.
Sorry I can't offer up anything more specific. Do be aware that you can restore back to 1.3 if you don't want to go back to 1.01
It happened to me and what I did is plugged my sdcard into my android phone and format it and start over again.
I did that couple time during first attempt to install CM7 on my nook
Hope this helps ! Good luck!
Try plug it into different computer(s) along with using usb-adapter.
The Eausus Partition program works well to wipe/format cards too...