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I read a report from a new users saying the brightness of the screen outside when sunny isn't too good. Not really poor, but not on the top compared to other products.
But this was with standard set up. Is there a way to enhance this brightness when needed? (Of course understanding it will lower the battery autonomy)
This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sunlight. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality in comparison to the htc hd2 screen?
NB2 said:
This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sun light. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality?
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The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
Paul22000 said:
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
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I've seen an app on an htc hd2 that changes the brightness automatically but one can adjust the brightness for specific surround conditions (i.e it looks like a graphical equalizer). I do not own the phone but I was told that this app works quite good. Is there something similar for the n1?
I can attest the screen pretty much sucks in sunligh at full brightness. The beaming sun in south florida is relentless.
Yeah, the N1 is hard to read in the bright sun and its not just pooping on stupid people that dont understand computerz or a simple setting that fixes it, it just gives glare in the sun.
Most phones/screens, regardless of their technology, are difficult to see in direct sunlight. But then, why are you trying to read the screen in direct sunlight? Just turn the other way, or shield it with your hand. Not that hard to figure out, really.
I use the automatic light sensor all the time. The only time is gets confused is is in a dim room, bright source (window, lamp) directly in front of the sensor. You have to realize what the sensor is seeing. Often times it's seeing light reflected off your face, hence the up/down/up/down of the screen brightness.
I honestly don't see either as issues with the phone, but the users rather.
I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
Raymond77 said:
I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
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really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
JHaste said:
really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
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Really. I usually leave the screen set to auto, on the odd occasion I've had to turn it up to the brightest setting, but as the last poster said usually it'll catch up and turn the brightness up itself.
snoopstah said:
I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
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Or people who don't have any problem with the battery? With my use the battery lasts for 20+ hours, which is more than enough time for me to get to a charger again.
I always have the brightness at max and have had it that way for all the phones I've had (where you can set the brightness). If I'm gonna be more than a day without charging it I'll of course turn it down, but it's far from a neccesity for day to day use.
Just checked my phone and it's been off the charger for 16 hours and I still have 53% left on the battery.
Brightness in the direct Thai sunlight is fully adequate. The only problem I've had is that in direct sunlight, everything else is well lit, and so reflects off the screen.
Brightness: no problem
Reflection off the screen: annoying.
Paul22000 said:
The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
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False. I know this phone well and disabled the auto brightness within 20 minutes of owning the phone. As much as I love my N1, and would not trade it for any phone, the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
You can buy anti-glare screen protectors that help this problem, but you do sacrifice some of the stunning brightness and clarity of the N1 screen in regular viewing conditions.
There is no way I would trade the N1 screen for the likes of the iPhone screen as the benefits of the OLED screen in non-direct sunlight viewing far outweighs the difficulty seeing the screen in direct sunlight. In fact, the N1 screen is probably its most impressive feature (aside from its blazing speed).
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the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
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of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
I have never in my life encountered an electronic device with a screen that was perfectly readable in direct sunlight, that is to say, as readable as indoors (not even my laptop plugged in the mains and set to full brightness). Reason: no screen technology can provide as much brightness as the sun. Solution: accept it, and cover the screen with one hand while you use the device with the other....
NB2 said:
of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
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take pictures: look over the device and hit the shutter button..
input: open you jacket and form the number while providing shadow with it, or provide shadow with one hand while forming the number with the other. It's a fact that you need to accept, period.
Video sunlight test
Here is a video I found, it basically compares the N1's screen in sunlight to the Droid's screen at three different brightness levels. Enjoy.
youtube. com/watch?v=YwyJq6oF4wE
note, since I'm new I can't post links... just remove the space
The screen is really nice in normal light but yeah it sucks in the sunlight LOL Probably depends where you live but in sunny South Florida it's a pain sometimes. Doesn't matter which direction you turn definitely have to shield it with your hand and it's still pretty hard to read. I'm looking into getting an anti glare screen protector for it to see how that helps. The display is absolutely beautiful but i'm starting to think maybe oled isn't the best technology for cell phone screens
Oled
The main difference between the screen technology in the N1 and most other phones is that on the N1, as I understand it, each pixel emits its own light (OLED = Organic Light Emitting Diode) as opposed to a 'liquid' film lighted from the back (LCD = Liquid Crystal Display). The only technology that I know of that will work well in direct sunlight is e-ink.
It is not likely that a pixel or a backlight could ever reasonably compete with direct sunlight, but on an LCD screen it is possible for the sunlight to reflect off the back layer or to hold the device is a certain angle to 'perhap's see the image better in sunlight then on the OLED type display.
However, having the N1 myself, I have found that I am able to shade the display in full Southern California Sunlight well enough to function with the device. The OLED display is much too gorgious to give up for LCD in my opinion.
I feel like the screen brightness is trending significantly lower with the auto brightness sensor enabled. I could swear that the screen would bump up the brightness more in certain settings that now appear too dim. Is anyone else seeing this, or am I imagining it?
Actually, I didn't really notice at first, but my girlfriend's Epic has been updated already and mine has not (still waiting for the update message). After i read this post I put them side by side to check...in the same lighting conditions her Epic is definitely dimmer now.
Sigh... why'd the break it! Screen brightness was perfect! Now I find myself pointing the screen at a light source from time to time because it goes too dim too fast. Sure, it may give the OLED matrix a slightly longer life, but most of us don't use this thing for hours outdoors anyway - in addition to the fact that we'll (probably) be replacing the phone after 1-2 years for the next best thing anyway. Any fixes anyone?
It seems like the screen can get dimmer now but I could be wrong.
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i was thinkin that before and also while web browsing i used to be able to adjust brightness even with my general brightness on auto .. but now i cant ....
I just leave mine at either 50% or 100%
They lowered the minimum brightness, which affects the auto scaler at all levels. I noticed that the EVO could get much duller than the Epic and that when indoors, the lowest setting was still quite bright. It should help save battery.
I use manual, so I don't care.
i really love the dimmer screen, i always have it very low because at work i really dont need a brighter screen and of course save battery, love that change.
I like the lower setting because it was hard to look at in the morning after waking up before. You can easily adjusting the brightness by swiping left or right on the status bar.
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You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the ASUS ROG Phone II's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
zed011 said:
I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
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My friend says screen is great
At low brightness? No strange effects on gray color?
zed011 said:
I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
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In terms of brightness I would say it's average at best. The screen is very dim my current brightness slider is set at 80% and that is just to navigate conformabley. But I would recommend a 85 to 90% settings.
The screen isn't yellowish quite the opposite actually in comparison with my 1st generation ROG, colors are even I would say and no grain.
Rashad83 said:
In terms of brightness I would say it's average at best. The screen is very dim my current brightness slider is set at 80% and that is just to navigate conformabley. But I would recommend a 85 to 90% settings.
The screen isn't yellowish quite the opposite actually in comparison with my 1st generation ROG, colors are even I would say and no grain.
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Hopefully it's just a software issue and will be resolved shortly. Hell, it couldn't be worse than the OP6T. And the ROG2 has around 200 nits more than the 6T. That fukn thing, you can't see **** on if its bright out. Overall, I would think the extra 2,000 mah would compensate for the higher brightness til its fixed.
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Hopefully it's just a software issue and will be resolved shortly. Hell, it couldn't be worse than the OP6T. And the ROG2 has around 200 nits more than the 6T. That fukn thing, you can't see **** on if its bright out. Overall, I would think the extra 2,000 mah would compensate for the higher brightness til its fixed.
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But even if the brightness slider is set to 100% shouldn't consume much more battery if the screen is still dim...right?
By the way, can anyone let me know how bright is it compared to Razer Phone 1?
el4nimal said:
But even if the brightness slider is set to 100% shouldn't consume much more battery if the screen is still dim...right?
By the way, can anyone let me know how bright is it compared to Razer Phone 1?
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With 6000mah you have nothing to worry about. Reduce the refresh rate to 60 and you will get time over or equal to 10 hours standby time.
Regarding the razor phone I would think it would be much brighter because it's an LCD panel. But I am not definitive.
zed011 said:
I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
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just got my tencent version today. the screen max and min brightness is slightly higher than my oneplus 5. uneven colour/graininess requires you to squint with your face almost stuck to the screen so its really a nonissue. white balance is pretty on point and actually a little on the cool side tho whites are almost perfect white
R8nD0m said:
just got my tencent version today. the screen max and min brightness is slightly higher than my oneplus 5. uneven colour/graininess requires you to squint with your face almost stuck to the screen so its really a nonissue. white balance is pretty on point and actually a little on the cool side tho whites are almost perfect white
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You can also adjust color temperature and saturation in display settings. I think this screen is awesome.
R8nD0m said:
just got my tencent version today. the screen max and min brightness is slightly higher than my oneplus 5. uneven colour/graininess requires you to squint with your face almost stuck to the screen so its really a nonissue. white balance is pretty on point and actually a little on the cool side tho whites are almost perfect white
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The Tencent version is that bad?!?
Cellendril said:
The Tencent version is that bad?!?
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Umm everything I said is praise.
I did notice that graininess and very slight yellow shifting occurs at near minimum brightness but its really not easy to spot
Other than that the experience has been pretty amazing
Cellendril said:
The Tencent version is that bad?!?
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The screen is excellent in my opinion, and while the maximum brightness isn't the brightest out there, it's perfectly adequate even in direct sunlight.
As far as low brightness goes, I felt like the lowest brightness was still a little too bright next to my wife in bed so I installed low brightness pro. If anyone else feels they want to go lower..
Got the phone. Definitely too bright at lowest so either use an app to add dark overlay to dim or wait for a software update I guess
Has red tint on dark theme grey on brightness below 50%
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At low brightness? No strange effects on gray color?
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Yes it does have a red tint on dark grey colors. Visible everywhere in apps using dark theme based on grey like google apps dark mode, the rog ui itself and any dark grey on screen.
Effect is more pronounced while using 120hz. And less on other modes.
sanurocks said:
Yes it does have a red tint on dark grey colors. Visible everywhere in apps using dark theme based on grey like google apps dark mode, the rog ui itself and any dark grey on screen.
Effect is more pronounced while using 120hz. And less on other modes.
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Same. dark greys become reddish when the brightness is lower than 40%
iShubham said:
Same. dark greys become reddish when the brightness is lower than 40%
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Same here, got the tencent version. Lets hope its just a software issue that future update can fix it. Im coming from s9 plus so its hard to compare the beauty of the screen.
Minimum brightness is way too high. Reference compared to nexus 5x and galaxy s7 on lowest setting. It's blinding
Rog 2 is brighter than the sun
I have a great appreciate of the capabilities of this phone, no matter what you might hear this phone has superb color rendering and there is no beating the refresh rate. When it comes to comparing how it delivers in color saturation compared to its competition all you are doing is splitting hairs... But as for its minimum brightness, well you cannot appreciate how truly bright the panel is until you are trying to write a blog post when the lights are off and your partner is asleep next to you.
With the slider all the way down its impossible to look at the screen without squinting real hard because those whites burn through your retinas and imprint on your soul. Do you like watching Netflix on your phone in bed? Not on this phone you won't. Want to read that last Facebook alert you just got after you turned the lights out? Absolutely you can do it... If you like staring at the sun that is. I sincerely hope Asus can do some sort of work around and deliver less power to the display in total darkness because light induced migrains are not fun.
Otherwise pretty good phone.
Samsung throttles the brightness when outside. It may save battery, but it makes the screen hard to see for my 50 years old eyes. On my other phone I can just turn up the brightness, but not on the Samsung. This means that I cant use my S10+ outside without reading glasses, so useless when out walking and the Samsung will have to stay at home.
Only help I have found, is an app called “High Brightness Mode”, but the difference is very small. And the Performance mode with 10% brightness increase, of course.
Anyone got a solution to this? Thanks.
Maybe you don't have auto brightness on because when it detects sunlight it bumps up the brightness a lot imo, or idk maybe you have either a defective unit or defective eyesight because mine gets plenty bright when outside.
I do have autobrightness on. But it only works in direct sunlight. If the sensor is in shade, the screen gets dim, even if all surroundings are lit by sunlight. Try moving your device in/out of sunlight and you will see, that it almost doubles the brightness when sensor sees the sun. That is the brightness I want access to.
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I do have autobrightness on. But it only works in direct sunlight. If the sensor is in shade, the screen gets dim, even if all surroundings are lit by sunlight. Try moving your device in/out of sunlight and you will see, that it almost doubles the brightness when sensor sees the sun. That is the brightness I want access to.
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Yeah, I don't think we can access that brightness level indoors (not manually anyways), and maybe it's because at those brightness levels (1000+ nits) the screen could suffer from premature burn. Probably that's why.
TonyGzl92 said:
Yeah, I don't think we can access that brightness level indoors (not manually anyways), and maybe it's because at those brightness levels (1000+ nits) the screen could suffer from premature burn. Probably that's why.
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Should still be the choice of the owner, not Samsung. I dont think any other brand makes screens this dark... But thx for your input.
You need to make sure your display mode is Vivid and not natural. VIVID mode allows the phone to get sunlight readable when auto brightness is turned on. Hope that helps.
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sammieboy said:
You need to make sure your display mode is Vivid and not natural. VIVID mode allows the phone to get sunlight readable when auto brightness is turned on. Hope that helps.
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Have you actually tested this? I know this is a year later but natural boosts just like vivid, i dont see any reason why would it be different ever
Samsung let YouTube has the colorful mode but other app can't, this's rather very stupid