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Gingerbread

Gingerbread suposely came out yesterday?
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i thought i heard that too,i was so pumped and then nothing...

I wonder what new goodies they are baking into the new gingerbread update. And us G2 users will probably get it sooner than a lot of user since we are running stock vanilla android. SEE, it can be a good thing sometimes. (i prefer vanilla over samsungs touch wiz and motoblur but i do like htc sense alot)

I hope we get gingerbread

meltedmoops999 said:
I wonder what new goodies they are baking into the new gingerbread update. And us G2 users will probably get it sooner than a lot of user since we are running stock vanilla android. SEE, it can be a good thing sometimes. (i prefer vanilla over samsungs touch wiz and motoblur but i do like htc sense alot)
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I love vanilla android but I really liked moto blur on my Charm but touch wiz felt like samsung wanted to make their phone as close to an iphone without actually being an iphone

TouchWiz IS iPhone wannabe which is very lame and Samsung fails at it. Look at Samsung’s support for its android phones. Shame

androidtoy09 said:
TouchWiz IS iPhone wannabe which is very lame and Samsung fails at it. Look at Samsung’s support for its android phones. Shame
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Tell that to the people on the vibrant forums lol
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Whats a shame is that the Nexus 2 is really going to be a galaxy s phone..Nexus S?? Thats a shame

ccb04 said:
Whats a shame is that the Nexus 2 is really going to be a galaxy s phone..Nexus S?? Thats a shame
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I couldn't agree with you more... although, I am quite happy with my G2. I'll keep it for a year or more before replacing it anyways...

androidtoy09 said:
TouchWiz IS iPhone wannabe which is very lame and Samsung fails at it. Look at Samsung’s support for its android phones. Shame
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Agree.... samsung touchwiz is just a cheap copy of an iphone's software lmao what a disappointment there we are android not ios. And I said that to the vibrant forum
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ccb04 said:
Whats a shame is that the Nexus 2 is really going to be a galaxy s phone..Nexus S?? Thats a shame
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I'm confuse about this nexus phone since samsung already said they aren't making a nexus 2 but we will see when the phone comes out
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androidFTW718 said:
I'm confuse about this nexus phone since samsung already said they aren't making a nexus 2 but we will see when the phone comes out
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sam**** says a lot of things, i pretty much take the opposite of what they say is true.

They aren't making a nexus 2, they're making a nexus s.
El hefe from google said so, the smartass.

wuts the main differences in gingerbread? lol im still waiting for an official froyo for my phone

SiL3nTKiLL said:
wuts the main differences in gingerbread? lol im still waiting for an official froyo for my phone
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which phone are you on since you are posting in the G2 forums which came with stock froyo already on it out of the box?

g_grey said:
which phone are you on since you are posting in the G2 forums which came with stock froyo already on it out of the box?
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His join date is also a few years before Android phones even came out, so my guess is he could be rocking any number of phones. Not everybody on the XDA forums posts in the one they own in particular. It could have just been a Gingerbread curiosity in general and it came up in a search.

[Q] Will there ever be an update?

Will the Evo Shift ever get an update like Gingerbread, Sense 2.whatever (Desire HD/Inspire/Thunderbolt), or Sense 3 (Evo 3D sense)? Has anyone said that this will or would not happen?

Really hoping on it. I don't why HTC shipped this with the older version of sense. Maybe for gingerbread update???
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Some others have hinted that we might wait till after evo3d is released.
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Some others have hinted that we might wait till after evo3d is released.
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That would make sense (no pun intended ). After all the two new flagship products by Sprint are the Nexus S and EVO 3D so they'll want to push Gingerbread as a feature on those phones before they upgrade the Shift. I doubt they'll update the original EVO though. But in the mean time there's always CM7 and the other 3rd party Gingerbread ROMs. :3

Ron Overdrive said:
That would make sense (no pun intended ). After all the two new flagship products by Sprint are the Nexus S and EVO 3D so they'll want to push Gingerbread as a feature on those phones before they upgrade the Shift. I doubt they'll update the original EVO though. But in the mean time there's always CM7 and the other 3rd party Gingerbread ROMs. :3
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im pretty sure they'll update the original evo. that's one of their most popular phones even today

e240 said:
im pretty sure they'll update the original evo. that's one of their most popular phones even today
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I'm pretty sure the EVO 3D will become the new flagship product when its released this summer and over shadow the popularity of the original EVO. Even if the whole 3D thing doesn't take off its still a superior design and you can bet Sprint will be pushing that fact.

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I'm pretty sure the EVO 3D will become the new flagship product when its released this summer and over shadow the popularity of the original EVO. Even if the whole 3D thing doesn't take off its still a superior design and you can bet Sprint will be pushing that fact.
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There's no way that the EVO or EVO Shift won't receive @ least the next 2 O/S updates. The backlash that would result if it doesn't would be ridiculous, even by Sprint standards.

Thats what they said about the moment too and that didn't turn out well lol
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There's no way that the EVO or EVO Shift won't receive @ least the next 2 O/S updates. The backlash that would result if it doesn't would be ridiculous, even by Sprint standards.
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foxsdaddy67 said:
Thats what they said about the moment too and that didn't turn out well lol
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Even the Moment got updated from 1.6 to 2.1. It really would be absurd for the Evo Shift to not at get at least one OS update.

jesusice said:
Even the Moment got updated from 1.6 to 2.1. It really would be absurd for the Evo Shift to not at get at least one OS update.
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I'm pretty sure the Shift will get the next update or 2 as it came out recently. The EVO has been around a while though and the EVO 3D looks as if its been purposely designed to be the original EVO's successor. From a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to continue long-term support for a device that has been replaced. Its with that in mind that I say I doubt the EVO will get Gingerbread.

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I'm pretty sure the Shift will get the next update or 2 as it came out recently. The EVO has been around a while though and the EVO 3D looks as if its been purposely designed to be the original EVO's successor. From a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to continue long-term support for a device that has been replaced. Its with that in mind that I say I doubt the EVO will get Gingerbread.
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The evo hasn't even been out for a year.... it makes sense to update products in order to keep current customers happy and willing to keep a contract with you.
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Will there ever be an update? Nah

So no? Okay

EricSS619 said:
The evo hasn't even been out for a year.... it makes sense to update products in order to keep current customers happy and willing to keep a contract with you.
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Yeah, and with googles new 18 month lifetime policy, who knows what the og evo will get.
[sig]Typed by a man standing on a toilet, eating a bacon sammich.[sig]

I really doubt that the Evo Shift will get a major update anytime soon to Gingerbread 2.3.3 or something. But it makes me wonder what Google is going to do with their new Ice Cream Sandwich version that was mentioned at I/O

There is a leak in the dev section for 2.3.3 gingerbread with sense 2.1. Reupping now if you want to try. Not the first post, read the later ones for a flashable zip.
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gtkansan said:
There is a leak in the dev section for 2.3.3 gingerbread with sense 2.1.
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One o fthe things I dont get is why HTC uses some of their own apps, when the Google supplied ones are clearly much better - for example, Gallery versus HTC's Gallery.

RickNY1971 said:
One o fthe things I dont get is why HTC uses some of their own apps, when the Google supplied ones are clearly much better - for example, Gallery versus HTC's Gallery.
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Clearly to you. Many people disagree. I prefer Goog's but only because of Picasa integration.
^ Shift Faced

finally a (possible) upadate for the shift 4g
head over to android central to see the new gingerbread leak on the evo shift 4g, if this is true then the shift is going to run so much faster with sense 2.1

im.nick.hello said:
head over to android central to see the new gingerbread leak on the evo shift 4g, if this is true then the shift is going to run so much faster with sense 2.1
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The AC thread about the thread that's already posted here on XDA?
^ Shift Faced

[Q] Mytouch 4g Getting Ice Cream Sandwich Update? (2.4/4.0)

Will the mytouch 4g (mt4g) be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4/4.0)?
What do you think?

highly doubt it

mrmako777 said:
highly doubt it
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Who knows....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072717

ICS is supposed to be a type of "universal" update that brings all devices under one platform to unify android instead of being fragmented the way it is. I was doubtful that the sgs4g would get it but after reading up on it it does appear hopeful that devices like ours will get the update as well.
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HTC HD2 MAN said:
Who knows....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072717
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wow, this is good news!

HTC HD2 MAN said:
Will the mytouch 4g (mt4g) be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4)?
What do you think?
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It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.

lowandbehold said:
It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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Where did you see that at? Most of the stuff I saw an read on : Android police an central along with phandroid, suspect 2.4 . I'm just curious on where you found it.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

lowandbehold said:
It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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Well... at the moment... no one knows if it is 2.4 or 4.0.
So thanks for pointing that out. I cant fix the poll title so bare with me.

Officially? I'm almost certain that's a no. Took them 6 months to give us GB and this phone is about to hit it's end of life cycle.
But unofficially, most certainly. Kmobs and Zinx have this phone, the two prominent devs in the CM team. So I'm highly confident that through them, we'll be amongst the first batch of phones to get ICS via CM8.
Just my thought.
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I agree we will get it via cm8 not officially though
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Tmobile, from what I remember is part of the Android alliance. They promise upgrades, when a new Android OS comes out, it'll only end when the phone is 18 months old. I doing we'll see it right away, but i'm pretty sure we will officially see it at some point.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

Mr.Highway said:
Tmobile, from what I remember is part of the Android alliance. They promise upgrades, when a new Android OS comes out, it'll only end when the phone is 18 months old. I doing we'll see it right away, but i'm pretty sure we will officially see it at some point.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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Not sure about that because to me, T-Mobile has the worst track record of phones getting updates.
The myTouch Slide 3G was promised Froyo last summer but didn't get it till earlier this year. And you can pretty much throw GB out of the equation for that phone.
The Vibrant has yet to even have a GB leak while the Vibrant 4G gets GB leaks every month or so. Which is sad.
The G2 was supposed to get GB very early but are now just getting it. And its life cycle already ended a month or two ago so that getting ICS is doubtful.
And that's just to name a few.
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mackster248 said:
Not sure about that because to me, T-Mobile has the worst track record of phones getting updates.
The myTouch Slide 3G was promised Froyo last summer but didn't get it till earlier this year. And you can pretty much throw GB out of the equation for that phone.
The Vibrant has yet to even have a GB leak while the Vibrant 4G gets GB leaks every month or so. Which is sad.
The G2 was supposed to get GB very early but are now just getting it. And its life cycle already ended a month or two ago so that getting ICS is doubtful.
And that's just to name a few.
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I'm not gonna lie, but you are correct about all of that. I'm willing to give them another shot, them ima go to sprint. I do like t-mo,I had a good plan with them, they made me change plans, when I added a new line, also I just got throttled. If they can update this phone to ICS, I'll stay if not, i'm gone.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

Mr.Highway said:
I'm not gonna lie, but you are correct about all of that. I'm willing to give them another shot, them ima go to sprint. I do like t-mo,I had a good plan with them, they made me change plans, when I added a new line, also I just got throttled. If they can update this phone to ICS, I'll stay if not, i'm gone.
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I hear ya, I love TMO as well and I would love to be wrong to be honest. But looking back at how the Evo, and even the freakin year and a half old Droid INC got GB it made me think how terrible TMO is compared to the other carriers.
I would probably switch to Sprint as well if anything, I just wish their 3G was good.

mackster248 said:
I hear ya, I love TMO as well and I would love to be wrong to be honest. But looking back at how the Evo, and even the freakin year and a half old Droid INC got GB it made me think how terrible TMO is compared to the other carriers.
I would probably switch to Sprint as well if anything, I just wish their 3G was good.
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You would think the company that first introduced Android to the world, would set an example for everyone else on how to update your Android's in a timely manner. Instead they are usually the last ones to do so or they'll release a new version of the phone that is updated, an scrap the older ones. The only reason why i'm still with then is,i have good connection at home an in my area, an I don't want to spend the extra money for a etf.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

Mr.Highway said:
You would think the company that first introduced Android to the world, would set an example for everyone else on how to update your Android's in a timely manner. Instead they are usually the last ones to do so
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From what I was told (by a German TMO sales rep), they have a fairly long internal QA process to make sure that a new ROM works (together with any of their own additions). So it usually takes them more than six months after a new ROM has been released, before it is officially available from them. This is not only true for Android, but is also valid for Blackberry and WP7.

FWIW... We switched to sprint. Hated sprint cdma. And t mobile is hardly the worst track record, all the carriers have been about the same. I think verizon and the droid line up is your"worst"...
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flir31207 said:
From what I was told (by a German TMO sales rep), they have a fairly long internal QA process to make sure that a new ROM works (together with any of their own additions). So it usually takes them more than six months after a new ROM has been released, before it is officially available from them. This is not only true for Android, but is also valid for Blackberry and WP7.
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I can understand a 6month time frame to get everything working. I had the mytouch 3g slide, an that took a year an a month(not sure, maybe 2) to get upgraded to 2.2, they didn't even do an ota. It was either do it yourself via HTC or go to a store an get it done. I think that's pretty bad though, it took them that long.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

Yeah... I don't see why they need at least 6 months. I mean it took CM's team like a little over a month after GB's source was released to get it to multiple different phones. Plus CM implemented their CM Settings as well.
I'm not saying it's a wrong statement, just wondering how a group of mostly college kids can beat big companies to it.
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mackster248 said:
Yeah... I don't see why they need at least 6 months. I mean it took CM's team like a little over a month after GB's source was released to get it to multiple different phones. Plus CM implemented their CM Settings as well.
I'm not saying it's a wrong statement, just wondering how a group of mostly college kids can beat big companies to it.
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Big companies = a lot of political bull****. They do what they can to make more money for themselves about 50% of the time.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

When will we see the next Sprint HTC superphone?

I love the new Galaxy Nexus, but I am partial to HTC phones. When will they give us a new super phone on Sprint?
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i second that. I returned my epic touch. the radio sucked and had nothing but issues on all 3 of them. Ill gladly keep using the evo until htc lte phones come out

Joey SR said:
i second that. I returned my epic touch. the radio sucked and had nothing but issues on all 3 of them. Ill gladly keep using the evo until htc lte phones come out
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LTE phone on sprint aren't supposed to come out till 'roughly' june/july next year.

teh roxxorz said:
LTE phone on sprint aren't supposed to come out till 'roughly' june/july next year.
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nothing wrong with that... no point in upgrading early 2012 knowing that your phone will be out-dated in terms of wimax vs lte in a few months

rydehard86 said:
I love the new Galaxy Nexus, but I am partial to HTC phones. When will they give us a new super phone on Sprint?
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Not that I'm all for Apple, but I believe at the moment, the iPhone 4s is their number one phone at the moment...but that's alright, I don't think that will last too long, I'm kinda interested in Nokia and Windows Phone Apollo...
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Next HTC phone should be released in early summer and be as the evo successor and if right should be announced at ctia and should be flagship for their first LTE phone
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The evo is plenty now. With no more yearly upgrades, why waste it now on a wimax phone thats not going anywhere.
Long live Evo
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Rocklee99 said:
Not that I'm all for Apple, but I believe at the moment, the iPhone 4s is their number one phone at the moment...but that's alright, I don't think that will last too long, I'm kinda interested in Nokia and Windows Phone Apollo...
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Sprint is throttling the iPhones data. Bro in law has been *****ing bout it since launch day. Did a Google search and he's not only one, huge deal! So imo I wouldn't claim 4s to be a power dog when they're only getting .02 mbps upload average lol
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Yea I love my Evo. I probably won't upgrade till LTE is fully up and running
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Yeah my Evo is running 2.3.5 and sense 3.5 overclocked and all the goodies, so what would I "upgrade" to anyway until LTE is up and running? So I don't have Seri and can't make appointments while I'm jogging.. I don't jog anyway so take that Apple!!

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Yeah my Evo is running 2.3.5 and sense 3.5 overclocked and all the goodies, so what would I "upgrade" to anyway until LTE is up and running? So I don't have Seri and can't make appointments while I'm jogging.. I don't jog anyway so take that Apple!!
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We have "voice actions" in the market. It's actually superior to Seri in my opinion! It actually learns and will get to know you!

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Yea I love my Evo. I probably won't upgrade till LTE is fully up and running
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True that. An upgrade to an non-LTE phone and this point doesn't make sense to me. OG Evo still running strong.

the next flagship phone will probably come out next summer lol

SONIC589 said:
We have "voice actions" in the market. It's actually superior to Seri in my opinion! It actually learns and will get to know you!
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WTF, you saying I need to jog??

may grab the evo design 4g just to hold me til the summer http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/sprint-unleashes-the-htc-evo-design-4g-available-october-23rd-f/

I say when they get ready to launch LTE. Although, I would like to see an HTC version of the Samsung Galaxy Note. Not really into the whole stylus, nor 3D. I just want bigger, faster, more memory. Want to get fancy, include a optical, non-digital zoom for the camera.

I think ICS will make my decision for me. IF the OG EVO can get an AOSP ICS build (with or without WiMAX) I'm going to keep it until I see how Sprint's LTE rollout goes. I'm gonna tide myself over with a Windows 8 tablet when they launch...

Don't count us out yet for ics.

"After reviewing various factors such as system requirements, platform
limitations, and partner-related issues, we will consider upgrading Galaxy devices
to Ice Cream Sandwich. Specific upgrade plans will be communicated separately.
Samsung will stay committed to responsibility for its customers as much as
possible."
That was in response to the nexus s-comparable devices getting ics question.
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ICS? For us? I know there's no guarantee but OH MY GAWRSH

Since we aren't on any type of EOL list I'm sure there could be a very good possibility, especially since our stock ei22 kernel is a heavily modified nexus kernel IIRC
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Since we aren't on any type of EOL list I'm sure there could be a very good possibility, especially since our stock ei22 kernel is a heavily modified nexus kernel IIRC
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You're completely right, just we don't use many things the same way unfortunately. But it's a positive nonetheless.

Its weird that we haven't been EOL yet. But I think I see why, a lot of my friends have been picking up the Epic for the cheap $99. Although one friend got the Stratosphere, which I'm jealous of, that phone is nice.
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I honestly don't think we'll get ics. But if we do, it won't be till jelly bean comes out. Samsung has a tendency to repeat itself
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ac16313 said:
Its weird that we haven't been EOL yet. But I think I see why, a lot of my friends have been picking up the Epic for the cheap $99. Although one friend got the Stratosphere, which I'm jealous of, that phone is nice.
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EOL? The phone is not even two years old, right?

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EOL? The phone is not even two years old, right?
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How old was the EVO when it became EOL?
Oh and no.
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Would be nice since im stuck with this phone for another year. Really wondering if its worth canceling now and jumping on the bandwagon of the nexus.
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Would be nice since im stuck with this phone for another year. Really wondering if its worth canceling now and jumping on the bandwagon of the nexus.
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No. Wait for LTE and quad cores coming summer 2012.
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How old was the EVO when it became EOL?
Oh and no.
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EVO was easily replaceable as there are plenty of high end slate styled phones on Sprint. Epic on the other hand fills a niche. Honestly, I've noticed a lot of Epic users out in the wild lately. I used to never see anyone else with my phone and now it's been every place I go I seem to see another person with an Epic. Even at a year and a half old, it holds it own and even bests a lot of the newer mid-range phones out there.

To the novice consumer the Epic is the cheaper keyboarded style galaxy s2. The Og Epic never got much advertisement, but since the Epic Touch has a lot of people head in to check it out, see the Og Epic, are like "oh cool it's the same phone with a keyboard and cheaper" and bam, it becomes more popular then when it was released.
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Zeinzu said:
To the novice consumer the Epic is the cheaper keyboarded style galaxy s2. The Og Epic never got much advertisement, but since the Epic Touch has a lot of people head in to check it out, see the Og Epic, are like "oh cool it's the same phone with a keyboard and cheaper" and bam, it becomes more popular then when it was released.
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that... and the fact that it is priced at anywhere from free to 99 bucks.

Biggoron said:
Would be nice since im stuck with this phone for another year. Really wondering if its worth canceling now and jumping on the bandwagon of the nexus.
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I am sort of in the same boat. In spite of SERO, opening a line in a family VZW account would cost about the same or less and I never go beyond 3GB of data use (that with double data promotion). Went to VZW store, played with the Nexus, but despite being well aware of specs, updates, ICS etc just did not feel that it was that much better than what I already have. Also, realized that I will really miss my KB, and the dev community is still in its infancy for Nexus @XDA.

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No. Wait for LTE and quad cores coming summer 2012.
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gotta agree with kenny on ^^^ this ^^^ ... prolly better 2 just wait

A lot of my friends had gotten Epics and I was the sore thumb who went out and got an Evo Shift back last April. That phone went kaput on me and I decided to hop on the epic-wagon after using other ones first hand. I won't ever get a non keyboard phone, and the epic is the best of its class...Its the ONLY one of its class now. Sprint has no plans to release any other keyboard phones yet, which is highly disappointing. We might see one when LTE comes around, but...in the mean time, I'm happy that the Epic has such an awesome team of devs here (Things over in the evo shift forum really started to die!).
Long story short: Long live the epic.

I think the possibility of us getting ics is pretty good actually. It used to seem out of reach but now the hyped nexus update has been halted and Sammy is posting new rdf files, not to mention the increasing amount of epic buyers lately. If you ask me, I think the probability of us getting ics is higher than many think. Our phone will easily support it.
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Especially since our devs started the work for them and got mtd working.
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Especially since our devs started the work for them and got mtd working.
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I think they'll still use bml on ics, so that won't help them.
Edit:samsung, not our devs.
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This will keep me around the epic for a little while longer