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To un-root or not to un-root

I am new to the forum, so please be gentle...
I recently rooted my HTC Hero (Sprint) and was wondering if I will be required to unroot when it comes time (whenever it will be) to upgrade to the official 2.1 release. I guess my question really is, will the release automatically undo the exploit that gives me root permissions, or will I have to do it before the upgrade will install?

Why not wait for roms from the 2.1 update..so u dont have to unroot.
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subrm1 said:
I am new to the forum, so please be gentle...
I recently rooted my HTC Hero (Sprint) and was wondering if I will be required to unroot when it comes time (whenever it will be) to upgrade to the official 2.1 release. I guess my question really is, will the release automatically undo the exploit that gives me root permissions, or will I have to do it before the upgrade will install?
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The official release is going to unroot your phone and it will not matter whether you are rooted or not.
Also, if you decide to run the official RUU you may not be able to gain root access again. Most likely a method will be found, but there are no guarantees.
Another alternative is to wait a day after the official release and run one of the custom ROMs here that will utilize the official version, but maintain your ability to keep root.

Also, the process is not automagic. The update will have to be downloaded on your PC or you will have to go to a Sprint Store/Bestbuy to have them do the update for you.
Don't worry about the message you get saying an update is available. It's won't install it self.
But +1 for waiting 24 hours for a dev rom.

danknee said:
Another alternative is to wait a day after the official release and run one of the custom ROMs here that will utilize the official version, but maintain your ability to keep root.
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Um don't u mean probably within two or three hours after official update is out. U know the rom devs will not wait a whole day. Lol

Forgive my ignorance...I used asroot2 to root my Hero vice flashing the ROM, will this make a difference? I have not actually loaded a ROM yet. I downloaded ROM Manager and intend to use it, is it worth while or is there a better way out there?

subrm1 said:
Forgive my ignorance...I used asroot2 to root my Hero vice flashing the ROM, will this make a difference? I have not actually loaded a ROM yet. I downloaded ROM Manager and intend to use it, is it worth while or is there a better way out there?
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Rom Manager only works if you have flashed ClockWork recovery.
Most our devs just do AmonRa updates.
asroot2 is what we all used (for sprint users at least...)(or some variation in the implementation of it)
Pretty much asroot2 allows root access until you flash a rom that has su installed in to the /bin directory. After you have flashed a rom, asroot2 is useless and actually probably removed, never really paid attention.
No appoligies needed for your questions as they have merrit. But searching the forum for "unroot for 2.1 update" would yeild most of these answers.

So I've got the recovery image...which ROM would be recommended to just experiment with? This will be the first time I've done this.

Look for cb.cp-v69 it is the fastest, most stablest Rom everest. Est. ;p

subrm1 said:
So I've got the recovery image...which ROM would be recommended to just experiment with? This will be the first time I've done this.
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Each of the ROMs will have their own distinct look and their own advantages. I would take a day or so to lurk around the Hero CDMA Android Development
forum and read through some of the [ROM] threads and read the changelogs, and what the forum members have to say about it. You will benefit from using any of the given ROMs, but you may find that you like a certain look, or feature that only one of them provides. I'm a flipzmode fan myself, so I run a few variations of fresh ROMs and ROMs based of of flipzmode's work. All of the ROMs that I have tried from each of the ROM devs have been awesome.

Just got Samsung Vibrant!! How do I update to 2.2 Stock? Help please.

Hello.
I just got this phone, and it is UNLOCKED and stock 2.1 on it.
I would like to update to the official 2.2 and keep the unlocked, can someone point me to the right direction and tell me how that will be done?
I heard the 2.2 is not out officially, but it is leaked, so that leaked version is the full 2.2 stock or something missing?
I heard something about rooting, flashing, but I am not sure what that means as I just got this phone.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800636

root the phone 1st then download rom manager then pick a rom eugene's , sombionix, or master are all good read up on them and then pick one
down load it on to your computer then load into the internal sd card then reboot in to recovery or through clockwork (rom manager) and load it up.. If you can't follow read up on the sticky's in this forum it explains way better.........

Look in here for all your needs and tools that you'll want to get started on getting Root, ClockworkMod Recovery and a Custom Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
Look in here for all the different Roms. (ie Android 2.1 roms or Android 2.2 roms)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=711
Just like oka1 said, you need to root your device first. Then get rom manager from the market and install clockworkmod recovery through it. When your done with that download any rom you want and put it on your Internal Memory (Phone Storage) on the root of it. Then flash through Clockworkmod. Hope its enough. ;D

Words are sounding very complicated, but I am sure its not just need to learn how to do the steps....
Also the 2.2 will fix GPS, and have Full Flash browser right?
Can I use this to root? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300
Also if I brick this phone as I am new at it, can it be recovered?
And where do I find the stock 2.2, please?
Thanks.

Look in the development forum or use search. It's all there, and trivial to find.

My signature should teach you everything you need.
for the rom, go to the development section... There is a sticky called the bible. It has everything.
I personally would flash nero v3 (not the beta 3). Most on here agree it's amazing.
Also, Vibrant's are REALLY hard to brick... Worst case you can use odin to get back to stock 2.1. Thid is also covered in my signature.
Now, with all that said... Samsung promised froyo by year end. You may want to wait a few days (I'd still take nero over an ota, just giving you all the information. They may not deliver)

awaisuk said:
Words are sounding very complicated, but I am sure its not just need to learn how to do the steps....
Also the 2.2 will fix GPS, and have Full Flash browser right?
Can I use this to root? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300
Also if I brick this phone as I am new at it, can it be recovered?
And where do I find the stock 2.2, please?
Thanks.
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I would just leave it factory cause I see this ending in a soft brick and you freaking otu thinking you ruined your phone when you didnt

Learn how to use Odin FIRST, then learn how to root, then learn how to flash, all of this is covered somewhere in this forum.....search a little and you'll be flashing in no time.
Sent from THE Vibrant......

The newest and greatest is Nero 3 by team whiskey, its a custom 2.2, but with a gingerbread (2.3) feel and look. They have been at it for a a while and this is a wonderful rom. Check out my thread in this (vibrant general) forum for links and all the tips you need just ask.
I'd love to help.

Canada just got the official 2.2 Froyo update. Can't you just use that download?

Thank you for your replies, I am reading the guides now and hopefully everything works out.
Can someone please tell me does 2.2 have full flash browser?

Just some beginner questions

For about a month now I've been very interested in rooting my R2D2 Droid 2. I think I know how I'm going to do it, by using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764950 however, I am unsure if it would work considering that I'm using Gingerbread 2.3.3. Another question I have is when I flash a custom ROM to my phone, will it replace the R2D2 animation on the startup of the phone that I've come to know, love, and hate? Also, any advice as to I should add to my phone after rooting would also be greatly appreciated, especially apps, Custom ROMS, and anything you guys can think of.
Thank you so much!

Rooting is pretty simple. If you are on the OTA GB update then you will want to use the Droid 3 One Click root. The instructions I used are here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3216-roo...-click-added-for-windows-linux-osx/#post75934
As for ROMs I would definitely try a few out. I am currently running Rev's CM7 build. I uses the GB kernel unlike the official CM7 nighties. Once you are rooted download ROM Toolbox and you will find it in there. I would also highly recommend Boot Manager. This app lets you install different ROMs to your SD card. Great for trying out new ROMs without messing up your current installation. I am running CM7 on my phone with Apex and MIUI ICS in two slots on Boot Manager.
Just be careful, there are some ROMS that run on the Froyo kernel and others that run on the GB kernel. If you flash the wrong one you may end of having to SBF back to stock, reroot, etc. Not hard but it is a pain.
Good luck!

Hey thanks! I really appreciate your reply. I'll be sure to try all of this stuff later tonight. I'll just post here if I have any problems. (hopefully not)

[q] rooted HC to ICS - how?

OK, I rooted my A500 towards the end of last year since it didn't seem like Acer was going to keep up with the latest Android operating systems.
I checked in here recently and saw that ICS has been released for the A500. Joy.
So, I used CWM v5.0.0.0(thor2002ro rev1.3.4) to try and flash the rooted Acer OTA ICS. I figured I'd try the original ICS before I start flashing other people's ICS roms.
All went well until the reboot. It froze on the ACER screen and would go no farther. I figured that perhaps the cache/data/dalvik didn't clear the first time so I repeated those steps. format data user reset, clear caches, clear bat stats. Reflashed rom.
Reboot.
Stuck at ACER screen again.
I searched the forums and found that I need a different bootloader? There are a bunch of threads, but I can't seem to make sense of them.
Can someone please give me a step-by-step plan to get this thing from where I'm at to ICS?
I did get my tab working again by repeating whole process but installed HC 3.2.1 Flexstriker r9.6. It booted up into the rom just fine.
I guess this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 - is close to what I need but it's tough to follow with all the different options and colors/fonts...
Can anyone help me down the right path?
Thanks in advance.

You can flash one of Civato's old Flexreaper roms on a HC bootloader. Since it is an ICS rom you can just update the boatloader as mentioned in the thread you linked.
I would suggest flashing Flexreaper 9 or something, his newer roms require you already have the ICS BL on. After you update the BL then just upgrade to one of his newer roms. They work very well. I've personally had no problems at all with his roms.
but....
If you want the stock Acer ICS, you have to downgrade all the way back to the old 3.x unstable rom and let it update from there. It will take a few updates, but it should get you to ICS.

Sorry, but this is a development forum not questions and answer, xda is strict about keeping things organize, please read the rules and guidelines.
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starkiller86 said:
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If you want the stock Acer ICS, you have to downgrade all the way back to the old 3.x unstable rom and let it update from there. It will take a few updates, but it should get you to ICS.
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Any guide on this? I need it for warranty issues (charging stops after few minutes with power light flashing white / amber) Search is not working and there is no "going back to stock" thread in the dev section sticky roll-up thread.

The thought of going back down and then upgrading back up didn't appeal to me.. So, I bit the bullet and tried to make sense of the thread I mentioned... I managed to get through it and I now have the sandwich on my tablet.
What a pain in the.......
OK... ready for the jelly bean leaks now.
starkiller86 said:
You can flash one of Civato's old Flexreaper roms on a HC bootloader. Since it is an ICS rom you can just update the boatloader as mentioned in the thread you linked.
I would suggest flashing Flexreaper 9 or something, his newer roms require you already have the ICS BL on. After you update the BL then just upgrade to one of his newer roms. They work very well. I've personally had no problems at all with his roms.
but....
If you want the stock Acer ICS, you have to downgrade all the way back to the old 3.x unstable rom and let it update from there. It will take a few updates, but it should get you to ICS.
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I did read the rules/guidelines..
It's a question about development (or at least how to use some developed tools), so I put it here..
If it doesn't belong here, then perhaps a mod would be so kind as to move it..
At this point, the thread really could be deleted as the original query is handled.
However, tkolev has added a question.
lifeofcoding said:
Sorry, but this is a development forum not questions and answer, xda is strict about keeping things organize, please read the rules and guidelines.
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[Q] Been away - what's my next move after Royal Ginger 1.6?

Hi guys,
I don't like when people post "how do I root my phone?" when you can search 100 threads to root your phone, so I was hesitant to post this, but I've been away a year or whatever it's been, and I see a whole bunch of new ROMS that are totally unfamiliar to me.
I chose Royal Ginger 1.6 (based on android 2.3.3) way back when (still have it) because I thought it was a stable, non-SENSE plain android ROM that was much faster than the sense that came with my mytough 4g. And I was right. I know it was updated to 2.0 and then the DEV stopped, or whatever the demise was.
I didn't update to 2.0 at the time since I have one of the "bad chips", so it wasn't compelling enough to risk something that was working fine.
I'm getting the itch again to update my phone - it's cheaper than getting a new 4.0 phone and a new contract and $$$. Figured if I slap jelly bean on this it'll make it feel like I got a free upgrade.
Mostly I'm after something that is solid and not something I'd look back and say "why didnt I just leave well-enough lone?" where I'd lose functionality in things I'm used to. (camera etc)
What's the new Royal Ginger nowadays? What's the no brainer ROM to flash when reliability and compatibility is concerned?
Should I go back to entertaining CM nightlies? It seems that some of the andoid v3 ROMS are stable, and what about andoid v4-- isnt that too much of a reach to make compatible with this aging glacier that we have? Not too buggy to use a jelly bean aopk 4.x.x on this?
Thanks for any input

If u wanna stay aosp wuth everything working I suggest cm7.2 stable or nightly that GB For ICS/JB I suggested AospX, or Dark Jellybelly or the port O.O all pretty stable with little to no bugs
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for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...

acsi007 said:
for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...
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I plan on building the milestone release tonight, so go ahead and take your time into getting back into things (unless you're eager to try BR7 ). I might be able to get it released tonight as well if everything goes right.
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Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks

acsi007 said:
Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks
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He likely had an older version of clockwordmod (someone else had similar trouble on another ics/jb rom) so just make sure you update it if you haven't in a while. I'd also suggest using 4ext if you're not using it already as people on cwm seem to be having trouble using it with the OTA Updater. Also, it allows you to wipe everything you need to flash a rom with just one option.

I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?

acsi007 said:
I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?
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You can still use ROM Manager with 4ext. Yes, just flash it right over.
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