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[Q] Phone app, Contacts app rant
I love my SGS, hence i want to rant about it
Dialing from contacts, phone takes always one extra step than other phones.
if i already took the time to set defaults manually,
(1) why do i have to select the number to call again (contacts, solution could be viewing button on far right from the contact name) or
(2) when i use smart dial and am satisfied with first suggestion why do i have to select it then press call (phone app, if i want to call other suggestions they already show it separately in a drop down)?
after a month of using my sgs i still hold the phone to my ear and wait for a while, until i realize i hadn't pressed the green button.
(3) in contacts app i can search my friends by nickname, but ONLY IF i edited their nickname through contacts app, i.e. if it's imported from gmail and i never edited it on my phone it fails to find by nickname.
(4) smart dial is not so smart as it can't search by nickname, unless it's the only field for the contact in the phone's phonebook, huh? so i have to manually add new contacts to phone, then link them, for my closest people (phone app) if it's okay for a handful of people but starting from 20 i start cursing samsung app devs
(5) for my business contacts... it avoids searching by last name, what? (phone app)
then the editing, grouping etc... but since i don't add people daily i can make it work through other apps.
so are there solutions, that you know of, to these woes ?

1. I think the default number only applies outside the contact app (like a shortcut). But if you open it from contact it has to show you all the contact info (otherwise how else can dial the other numbers of that contact that is not the default??).
2. I think this is to cater for the 3G video call option.
3/4/5. It is kind of lame the phone app search only matches from beginning of name and not the entire string. (Hopefully new firmware can cater to this). Luckily the global search (i.e. long press menu key) matches everything. You may want to use this to find instead of opening the phone/contact app. It is much faster

In the contacts settings you can set the order to last name before first name, then you can search by last name.

If you want to call default number just flick the contact name right. Flick it left for message.

pippin88 said:
If you want to call default number just flick the contact name right. Flick it left for message.
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Hey thanks for the tip
was it in the manual? (which i never read for any device....)

Well thats just great.
I am seriously so fed up with Samsung its not even funny. I am never buying one of there products ever again.
I said that I would never buy another Samsung product after my last Samsung phone, the Instinct. That was by far the worst phone I have ever owned. I with I had have stuck to that promise.
Oh well. I guess I learned the wrong way.
I think I might just try to sell this pos for as much as I can get for it and buy an HTC Desire HD.

Piece of crap! Grrrrrrrrr
I have put up with this phones issues for months, thinking wait for froyo and see if it helps things. To my delight froyo just became available for o2 uk customers, so I quickly updated. I was like a child with a new toy...but now feel like its broke/lost!
Firstly firstly beaufiful widgets doesn't seen to work properly on froyo. But my main gripe is the new found super lag. I cant even type this message without the phone stuttering! Scrolling up and down in anything...it stutters...like wtf?
Whats my best bet? Hard reset? If so how do I do it? If I backup my contacts on kies will it restore to a factory rest phone?
Any advice is welcome!
Btw running JP3
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djglenn1337 said:
I have put up with this phones issues for months, thinking wait for froyo and see if it helps things. To my delight froyo just became available for o2 uk customers, so I quickly updated. I was like a child with a new toy...but now feel like its broke/lost!
Firstly firstly beaufiful widgets doesn't seen to work properly on froyo. But my main gripe is the new found super lag. I cant even type this message without the phone stuttering! Scrolling up and down in anything...it stutters...like wtf?
Whats my best bet? Hard reset? If so how do I do it? If I backup my contacts on kies will it restore to a factory rest phone?
Any advice is welcome!
Btw running JP3
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backup your apps with titanium backup
factory reset
restore (only user apps and data, no system data)

Thanks for the reply. How do I actually factory reset? Can't find it in settings
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djglenn1337 said:
Thanks for the reply. How do I actually factory reset? Can't find it in settings
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Settings/Privacy/Factory Data reset

I feel your pain.
Even going to JPO theres still lag, and the number of hacks that have to be done to get away from RFS and make the phone actually perform like it should is crazy.
I ended up defecting to an iPhone 4, but still have the SGS waiting for the day when its lag free and performing the way it should.
IMO the SGS "could" be way better than the iPhone, but it just needs Samsuck to pull the finger out.

cheetah2k said:
I feel your pain.
Even going to JPO theres still lag, and the number of hacks that have to be done to get away from RFS and make the phone actually perform like it should is crazy.
I ended up defecting to an iPhone 4, but still have the SGS waiting for the day when its lag free and performing the way it should.
IMO the SGS "could" be way better than the iPhone, but it just needs Samsuck to pull the finger out.
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I did the same and defected to iPhone 4. I will be selling my Galaxy S as I don't believe Samsung will resolve the issues. They have had plenty of time to do this already and nothing has happened. Even with the XDA Developers showing them the problems and coming up with solutions they still have a laggy phone whcih lacks in so many way's. Don't even get me started on Kies.
In the end I bought an iPhone 4 and iPad wifi. Using iTunes and everything is working correctly.
Do yourself a favour...........

No no, its a great phone
Just need to apply mods/hacks/roots etc to make it work apparently and when update comes out you undo it all then redo it all again and hope for best.
I think it would be a great phone if it didn't lag so much.
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JP3 is sh*t. use another firmware
use doc's or darky's and wait for cm6.1 that'll surely be free from lags.

I will have to disagree. I got my galaxy s 3 months replacing iphone 3gs. It came with eclair 2.1 and it was perfect. I did the froyo update the day it came out with the reg hack and kept on getting freezes and force close. Did a factory reset and everything was fine. Did the new official update JPA with no reset and again perfect. The only program that lagged a little was email. Did the one click lag fix and now everything is smooth and fast. With over 50 apps i have no problems at all. My only gripe is that it should have more available ram and with flash on the browser stutters on flash heavy sites.
Apart from that i am very happy. By the way a get sattelite lock on my gps from a cold start in 30 seconds!
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What most users are forgetting is when you upgrade the ROM from Eclair to Froyo you MUST perform a Factory Reset.
Doing so will eliminate a lot of the problems with current Apps.

Animal06 said:
No no, its a great phone
Just need to apply mods/hacks/roots etc to make it work apparently and when update comes out you undo it all then redo it all again and hope for best.
I think it would be a great phone if it didn't lag so much.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

Ok, been using the phone on and off today without to much trouble...
Till now. Just disconnected phone from charger and and tried facebook app, no go apk failed, same with xda app etc etc. stock browser started but font size was huge and screen res wrong. Power off fixed it... Scary stuff
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sounds like what happened when my SD card started showing signs of failing.
prepare for the worst.
knock on wood, my replacement hasn't acted up yet.
Ok, been using the phone on and off today without to much trouble...
Till now. Just disconnected phone from charger and and tried facebook app, no go apk failed, same with xda app etc etc. stock browser started but font size was huge and screen res wrong. Power off fixed it... Scary stuff
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lol this has happened a few times to ppl....just out luck

HTC News app and widget issues

I've been using the HTC News widget to keep an eye on a few technology feeds and a few other things for a while and find it pretty handy. Unfortunately for reasons I haven't found it decided to stop updating around two days ago. I have it set to update automatically every four hours but that wasn't happening and tapping the bottom area to force a refresh just left it hanging at "Updating" without success.
I tried removing the subscriptions I had and added two test subscriptions to see what happened. When I finished adding them I was back at the home screen and it told me there was no news. Considering one of the subscriptions was Gizmodo I find that impossible to believe so something has bugged it out. Being the genius (HAH!) that I am I decided to try and see if going to "Manage Applications" and forcing it to stop would fix it. Big mistake! Now when I try to add the widget or launch HTC News it looks like it's about to open and then I'm staring at the home screen. No crash message, no errors, it's just as though the app quit instantly.
That's where I am now. I have tried restarting the phone to force all processes to restart at boot up but it didn't work so now I'm stuck with a the HTC News app failing to load. Any suggestions on what to do to fix this? I still have no idea why it stopped working in the first place either.

same problem
I am having the same problem. Did u get a system update from HTC? I think mine stopped working after this update.

Yeah, the second update not long ago. I think that's when the random reboots started too.
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contacted HTC
I have just sent HTC an email about this RSS News reader problem. i will keep you updated if I get a reply.

same problem here, but not related to the update!
i know this from my past:
as my signature shows i'm coming from hd2, and i had a desire hd ROM running
at last. there, after some days of the same rom, the problems with non-updating
news reader started to happen. i even felt smart and deleted the data from the
settings/ applications menue of the news reader, after that i had the same
problem as dyonas: a non functioning news reader.
sorry, but back then only a clean start (factory reset or in case of the hd2 a
deletion of the data.img) worked...
would be also glad if somebody would tell us how to fix this without having to
reflash/hard-reset!

Funny that you say that TML, I backed up all my apps thinking that it would be the only solution that would definitely fix it. I'll wait and see if we hear anything other than this but it shouldn't be a big deal to restore the apps again. I'd rather avoid it but at least the option is there.

Well I figured I might as well try a factory reset and it worked. The widget works again, and as a bonus my DHD feels ultra nippy again. I thought it was a tiny bit sluggish after I entered account details for sync but a few minutes later I saw why. Notification bar said 36 applications restored.
This phone rocks, Google rocks, Android rocks. All I had to download were things from the HTC hub. I even still have my text messages from before the reset.
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hey glad you sorted it...mine seems to be force closing now too.. I'm a newbie so please can you point me in the right direction on how to do a re-set, backup, and restore contacts/apps/messages??? thanks!...btw after reset if I restore apps will the apps still have my data e.g. Angry Birds with my score...or will I have to do it all again!

taz_mw said:
hey glad you sorted it...mine seems to be force closing now too.. I'm a newbie so please can you point me in the right direction on how to do a re-set, backup, and restore contacts/apps/messages??? thanks!...btw after reset if I restore apps will the apps still have my data e.g. Angry Birds with my score...or will I have to do it all again!
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To backup apps and phone data I used MyBackup Pro from that market but as I said, I didn't need to install them since Google restored them. I didn't get settings and account information on things like Toutieur (twitter app) restored because I didn't restore my backup, I don't know if it will restore properly on the DHD since I didn't try. I was about to try so I could offer a better answer but I'm having issues with data connectivity tonight that I'm 99% sure are to do with T-Mobile.
Steps taken
Download VISIONary from the market and run it to get temporary root
Use MyBackup Pro with root privileges, backup apk and their data, backup phone data (sms, mms etc)
Factory reset the phone (Settings > SD & phone storage > Factory data reset at the bottom)
It gave me two separate confirmation screens (liked that!) then it does the reset, reboots and restores from firmware and the phone loads up after a few minutes.
That's all I did. It's worth mentioning that you shouldn't do this without plenty of battery life.

I am now having the same problem, the news feeds wont refresh! Is a hard reset the only option?

I don't know if a hard reset is the only option but the response I got from HTC suggested clearing the cache of both the app and widget, which I did before my "force stop" madness. The factory reset was a pain but short of waiting a week or more for HTC to get somewhere it's the fastest. Using WiFi during the setup after the reset it had all my apps and other information back within 10 minutes. The only things missing were sound sets and a skin I downloaded from the HTC Hub, everything else was there.

I just hard reset mine. Newsreader is now working. I got the same response as you from HTC
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Hard reset for second time, working again but for how long? Just using app not widget.
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kpf16 said:
Hard reset for second time, working again but for how long? Just using app not widget.
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what about backuping up News 1.0 using titanium backup for example

Can confirm this has now happened twice to me!
Any solution here? or an alternative app that has a nice appearance like this one?
A hard reset is not a solution!

Is this problem just with the widget? Can the above back up app only be used with rooted phones?
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my experience froyo 2.2
Just my experience....
Tried to add BBC or Gizmodo.
On the channel list showed up a red spot with ! Probably cause no news are found!
Seeing that I have opened the channel and I have played with the menu
Some seconds and I all the news appeared !!
But returning to the channels list the red spot was still there.
I think that the reader think the news are already been red or something like that...
And more, I cannot remove the subscription!
I suppose that the first time you connect to Google it download your google reader subs and after then fails to sinc or manage new ones

I have the same issue with the news gadget and the friend stream gadget. I might agree with some of the posts above that this happened around the recent update. No other issues with this phone
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HTC Magic

...yes ... but for example just to be out of this topic try to put a gel case to protect your dhd ...
your GPS signal drops down dramatically!! ok off topic....

Right...the dam widget has stopped working again and is force closing. I DO NOT want to hard reset AGAIN! I have just sent HCT support a raving email!

GB debloating: removing "blur_yahoo.apk" breaks contacts.

I just spent some time trying to figure out what had broken my contacts functionality and this was it. Again, removing "blur_yahoo.apk" and the associated .odex file will break the contacts app. After removal, clicking on a contact in the dialer/contact app will just shut the app down. I've no idea why, since the yahoo app is for yahoo mail.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.

JagoX said:
F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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Hm, I deleted all of the messaging/social stuff and my moto text app (conversations.apk) still works...
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Really? Hmm...might be something else then that you'd think wouldn't affect it but does.

guys which apps should i delete that won't mess with the software....that will get rid of the bloatware

smyers1012 said:
won't mess with the software
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense

JagoX said:
Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional

smyers1012 said:
like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
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You should probably do some more research before you start messing with that b/c it can brick the OS requiring a full install of the ROM. In this case, if you don't do a restore before removing stuff you'll be restoring the SBF file a lot.
But to answer your question though...the app you want is Titanium Backup Pro (aka the pay version b/c of the "Freeze" option.)

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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze

smyers1012 said:
im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
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Well since the GB build for the DX just came out, I haven't been able to find a definitive thread anywhere (including on MyDroidWorld) listing what is save to remove or at least freeze. As of right now I think it's safe to say that its going to be a trial and error situation.

There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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johnclevenger said:
There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me

Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...

gc14 said:
Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)

JagoX said:
Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
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I removed all the messaging crap except the default messaging app (conversations.apk). I use Google Voice so I don't use the default app, but I sent myself a message using it and it worked just fine.
Note: you can do a data wipe/factory reset from within clockwork and you'll be fine.
If someone can produce a list of everything in /system/app (well, just the .apks would do), I can mark the ones I've successfully removed without problems.

Ditto to that...I'd be happy to contribute what I've frozen.

gc14 said:
Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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JagoX said:
That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.

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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.

JagoX said:
Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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You're right. I just timed it. About 38 seconds from red M to full appearance of desktop (I've got the boot animation disabled) and about 25 seconds from full desktop to all widgets loaded and ready to go. I underestimated by 40-60%! I'm using the blur launcher, btw.

Something must be wrong with mine then...because mine lasts a good 3 to 4 minutes...and that seems very long for services to be starting...
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[Q] Droid X Ringer issue

Hi all...
I'm turning to XDA for help as you guys seem to know everything
I have an unrooted Droid X that I have modified with Desktop visualizer, smooth calendar, a few other apps. At some point during the mods, it stopped ringing when called. Now sound works... and the phone announces the network then vibrates when called, so it says "Verizon Wireless" and then vibrates... but I can't get the ringer to come back.
I've removed everything I added. I have rebooted the phone multiple times... still no ringer.
Any thoughts on what else to try?
Monty

in my experience its better to root and rom ur device, instead of using apps. just my opinion. u might havt to do a full sys restore.
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While true, if I damage the phone while rooting, I'm screwed and have to buy a new phone. Trying to avoid rooting. Just want the phone back to normal.

Ok, have reloaded to factory. Now will do updates and see what one causes the problem. Will notify here.

I wouldn't actually consider it modding if you installed some apps. But as stated before, it would be a good idea to do a system restore

Monty3038 said:
While true, if I damage the phone while rooting, I'm screwed and have to buy a new phone. Trying to avoid rooting. Just want the phone back to normal.
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Do a system restore. On a side note using Z4 root I'd say there is almost a 0% chance on any damage. Believe me when I say this it is nearly impossible to brick a device. Nearly all the threads on here about people complaining about a bricked device are solved easily and the devices aren't really bricked.

Ok, have reloaded everything but Smooth Calendar and I'm still good. I want to load it but am worried it will take me right back where I was... is there another decent app that widgets the calendar in a see-thru mode that anyone is using on their Droid X?

Monty3038 said:
Ok, have reloaded everything but Smooth Calendar and I'm still good. I want to load it but am worried it will take me right back where I was... is there another decent app that widgets the calendar in a see-thru mode that anyone is using on their Droid X?
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I've never had any problems at all with Smooth Calendar. Maybe your restore fixed your problem.
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I use CalWidget. Its minimalistic and simple, has a transparent background if wanted, and you can customize the colors, how it syncs, etc. Simple and fairly versatile.
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Thanks all for the advice.
I did reinstall smooth calendar and all seems well. Strange that it acted up before... can't really blame any one app though.
As towards calling it 'modding'... of course you can't, but my phone still looks better than straight factory ones...
And I might root it, I am still a little hesitant though, once I get more time maybe I can look into it and then give it a shot.
Thanks again!

Monty3038 said:
and the phone announces the network then vibrates when called, so it says "Verizon Wireless" and then vibrates... but I can't get the ringer to come back.
Monty
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Go to settings>sound>roaming tone then uncheck this.

TouchWiz 4.0 app icons and folders problem (video included)

Hi,
I don't know if someone else found this problem. I made a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RS9j4uiTDaE. It's also in FullHD.
And wrote a post in my blog in my native language, spanish: http://retreteinformatico.blogspot.com/2012/01/touchwiz-40-y-problemas-con-la.html
The video description is english. I'll also explain the problem here:
Simply put, TouchWiz does not save the icons in the place where I leave them. At first I organized all of them in two screens: one with folders and the other with most frequently used icons. After doing a power on-off cycle the icons are all scattered without alphabetical order in three screens instead of two. The folders maintain their ordering and screen. An icon (AllShare) is put between two folders and the other icons are divided in two screens, disordered, not alphabetical.
In the video you'll see first what I found after the icon position screwing. Then I get three or four apps out of their folder (Google Talk, Gmail, Maps, Market) and put them with the rest of the icons and the AllShare app is put with the rest, out of the screen with the folders. Then I power off the phone and turn it on again to find that GTalk, Maps, Market and AllShare are out of their place.
After that, I put the icons more or less where I want to put them (in two screens) and I do again a power cycle to show how did TouchWiz screw my icon organization.
I'm using Android 2.3.4 XWIK4 with baseband XXKI1.

If someone is able to reproduce the problem just tell it. Maybe touchwizh has problems if you put in folders the Samsung apps (Hubs and more), I don't know, but it's a big problem.

Folder/Icon rearrangement is a known problem with TouchWiz since day 1 when SGS2 got released.
Best way to get around is to use AppSorter and sort your App Drawer everytime you create a folder.

Posting problems about 2.3.4 when everyone else is on 2.3.6 = VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS!
Update your phone and test it and give feedback!

Hmmm, I didn't know. How comes that Samsung hasn't fixed this in 8 monts?
This is ludicrous.

Beta is bad

Filiprino said:
Hmmm, I didn't know. How comes that Samsung hasn't fixed this in 8 monts?
This is ludicrous.
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Love the name of your blog: informatic toilet (retrete informatico) ahahah
Anyway: They suck on fixing bugs.. if we users and devs cant fix'em we are screwed lol

Also, why any reviewer spoted this problem? Add to this the Fujitsu camera module problem and you get the idea that QA on Samsung is really poor. Just remember the GPS problem on Samsung Galaxy S1.

ForTR said:
Beta is bad
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I didn't say to update to ICS beta... just update to XWKK5 and he should be alright!
Anyway i tried to do the same he did in my SGS2 and it keeps icons in their folders..
Using checkrom revo v4

zylor said:
I didn't say to update to ICS beta... just update to XWKK5 and he should be alright!
Anyway i tried to do the same he did in my SGS2 and it keeps icons in their folders..
Using checkrom revo v4
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My icons are kept in their folders. The problem is the icons that are out of their folders. I'm using original Android, no beta nor custom ROMs.

Filiprino said:
My icons are kept in their folders. The problem is the icons that are out of their folders. I'm using original Android, no beta nor custom ROMs.
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i rooted my phone and installed checkrom revo v4 and don't have that problem! What is weird to me is that i always used folders and that issue never came to me

zylor said:
i rooted my phone and installed checkrom revo v4 and don't have that problem! What is weird to me is that i always used folders and that issue never came to me
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I read your first post about upgrading to 2.3.6. Well, if I just use the default Samsung support, I'm stuck to 2.3.4, as my phone is Austrian version and Samsung didn't release nothing newer than 2.3.4 for those phones.
So Samsung sucks big as a company and client support.
Of course if I start to root the phone and installing custom ROMs the problem would disappear, but flashing your phone and breaking your warranty is not something the user should do for something that's supposed to work from the beginning. Different thing is if the user wants extra functionality, but this is not the case.
So, all in all, I'll wait until ICS gets released and after that if it doesn't convince me, I'll root and who know if I flash a custom ROM.

I had that trouble before where one app ended up going to the next page and kept going back there. I think simply restoring the order, going to TwLauncher in the application list and then force stopping should make it remember the order you gave it once you go back.

ProtoKun7 said:
I had that trouble before where one app ended up going to the next page and kept going back there. I think simply restoring the order, going to TwLauncher in the application list and then force stopping should make it remember the order you gave it once you go back.
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If I force stop TwLauncher the apps are again "out of control" :-/
I'll try to clear the cache although I'm reluctant because I'll need to recreate all folders again

I have partially solved the problem by clearing the cache of TouchWiz launcher.
Now the SIM service app keeps going back to the same place out of its folder, but I refuse to clear again the cache and organize all my apps. Maybe it's because the SIM service app is something variable. If I kill touchwiz process that app appears inside it's folder (once the cache corruption is solved), but if I turn off the phone and turn on again, the SIM app appears out of the folder.
This is crap.

Well, know what? I've installed some applications at one time, all from Samsung Apps, and after rebooting the phone all my folders are empty and the apps inside them are all spread across 6 screens instead the 2 screens I managed to sort. The apps and folders have lost the position I assigned to them.
Now I have a bunch of icons in random order and I don't want to organize again 6x8 = 48 icons plus the home screens which would turn to default state after clearing the cache of the touchwiz manager.
It's very annoying and unusable. I want to throw the phone through the window.
What I can't understand is how this bug has been happening since launch date and Samsung hasn't been able to solve it. My only hope is the ICS update and I don't have much confidence on it. Probably I'll have to flash a custom ROM and then try to get some Samsung software on it.
The free games offer is very good
PS: Well, maybe it has some explanation->Samsung's poor software development quality assurance. Camera's firmware also suffer from it.

Filiprino said:
I read your first post about upgrading to 2.3.6. Well, if I just use the default Samsung support, I'm stuck to 2.3.4, as my phone is Austrian version and Samsung didn't release nothing newer than 2.3.4 for those phones.
So Samsung sucks big as a company and client support.
Of course if I start to root the phone and installing custom ROMs the problem would disappear, but flashing your phone and breaking your warranty is not something the user should do for something that's supposed to work from the beginning. Different thing is if the user wants extra functionality, but this is not the case.
So, all in all, I'll wait until ICS gets released and after that if it doesn't convince me, I'll root and who know if I flash a custom ROM.
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With all due respect, and not aiming to sound rood to you, with that mentality (it should work fine out of the box and I don't care if somewhere else there's a newer version...) you shouldn't be posting on XDA because people we'll obviously tell you to upgrade to the latest version, whether it's from a different operator/country (legit) or simply a leak.
You can't expect people here to act like the only way to use the phone is by following what Samsung/your operator is dictating you. We all know and have long ago agreed that operators and manufacturers are lazy when it comes to QA, and that's why a place like XDA exists

zsidane said:
With all due respect, and not aiming to sound rood to you, with that mentality (it should work fine out of the box and I don't care if somewhere else there's a newer version...) you shouldn't be posting on XDA because people we'll obviously tell you to upgrade to the latest version, whether it's from a different operator/country (legit) or simply a leak.
You can't expect people here to act like the only way to use the phone is by following what Samsung/your operator is dictating you. We all know and have long ago agreed that operators and manufacturers are lazy when it comes to QA, and that's why a place like XDA exists
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The camera firmware bug affects to all people, doesn't matter if you have stock Android or custom ROM. So we're all in the same bag. And this is Galaxy S II General forum, so I post this here because norms allow it.
Anyways, thanks for your reading.

Actually clearing the cache helped! Ever since I updated to 2.3.6 I have had this problem but after clearing the cache it has been resolved. But initially after the update the folders did remember for a couple of days after which the problem started for me. But for now clearing the cache worked well.

Hello, did u guys already tried Menu>Save in app drawer after modifying/rearranging apps/folder?
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