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Google IO is around the corner, there is rumours that google is going to announce a new nexus similar tablet.
should i wait till after google IO, if no new announcement then get a xoom or should i just get a XOOM anyway.
i really want a device that will be supported directly from google (ie, update straight from google).
any more rumours on the nexus line of tablet?
what do you guys think? will google announce a google tablet in the IO?
Buy the xoom from Costco you can return it within 60 days I believe and if something comes out you can get your refund no questions asked
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cesarcerros31 said:
Buy the xoom from Costco you can return it within 60 days I believe and if something comes out you can get your refund no questions asked
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sorry to mention, i am actually from UK.. and they haven't actually got a fix release date, only news is i might get sent out this weekend. do i walk into the store to get one?
Yup and I believe you can also return them at any Costco but I would do some research
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i believe the xoom is the nexus of tablets. it was googles flagship device at their conference and it is the device that they always demo.
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Buy the xoom from Costco you can return it within 60 days I believe and if something comes out you can get your refund no questions asked
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To make it even better its 90 days not 60 days return policy.
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get the Xoom takes devices like 3 to 4 months to come out after those events. Then you'll say should Iget the nexus tablet or wait for the Xoom 2. What I'm saying is something better is always on the horizon.
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sorry to mention, i am actually from UK.. and they haven't actually got a fix release date, only news is i might get sent out this weekend. do i walk into the store to get one?
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Since you're in the UK, I would take a look at the Asus Transformer first, IMHO.
I was under the impression that the Xoom was gonna be Google's device....and also, on that note, since for now Google said no to company mods(ex. Touchwiz UX, etc.) then wouldn't every tablet running honeycomb get their updates right away?
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I was under the impression that the Xoom was gonna be Google's device....and also, on that note, since for now Google said no to company mods(ex. Touchwiz UX, etc.) then wouldn't every tablet running honeycomb get their updates right away?
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Apparently.
Either way, the Xoom is running stock 3.0, it will get updates just as fast as any other stock 3.0 tablet.
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Apparently.
Either way, the Xoom is running stock 3.0, it will get updates just as fast as any other stock 3.0 tablet.
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I thought so ty.
but from my understanding, although the Xoom suppose to be the nexus of tablet, but this still confuse me, the recent update doesn't come stright from google. it came from motorola.
which means if google decide to release a new patch, its down to motorola to deliver to us. and if they choose to delay it, it will be a bad thing.
for example, waiting for 2.3 on nexus one is long enough, forget about on the motorola droid or other HTC handsets.
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but from my understanding, although the Xoom suppose to be the nexus of tablet, but this still confuse me, the recent update doesn't come stright from google. it came from motorola.
which means if google decide to release a new patch, its down to motorola to deliver to us. and if they choose to delay it, it will be a bad thing.
for example, waiting for 2.3 on nexus one is long enough, forget about on the motorola droid or other HTC handsets.
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It was never advertised as such, but seeing as how everyone at Google working on android probably has a Xoom, I wouldn't worry about updates. The 3.0.1 update came through incredibly fast. Because the software is completely 100% stock and most android tablets are running the same tegra 2 platform, updates can happen much quicker.
Don't expect a nexus type tablet till after tablets become more popular, the same way it happened with phones. The xoom isn't the "official " nexus tab but it is the one considered it for now. You will not have to make this decision until next year, then we may see a nexus tablet or xoom2
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Consider our Xooms to be the equivalent of ADP1. If no one is familiar or hasn't been around Android for that long:
ADP1 or Android Dev Phone 1, was not a Nexus device, but was the Original Google Development device. The device was incredibly similar to a G1, only released earlier than the G1, with a lot more downloadable goodies than the G1 had initially(pre community development). But the only 2 big differences in the G1 and ADP1 where radio lock and boot loader.
2 years post G1/ADP1 we have the Nexus 1.
Google has confirmed that it will update the existing Nexus S handset to new Ice Cream Sandwich Android software in the next few weeks, but has also said that its original Nexus One is ‘too old’ for the upgrade.
Google’s Hugo Barra confirmed that the latest version of Android will be delivered as a free upgrade to the existing Nexus S handset “within weeks”. He said the search giant was aiming to get the software to owners of the previous flagship phone shortly after the release of the new Galaxy Nexus handset next month, well in time for Christmas.
Owners of the first official Google phone, the Nexus One, will not be getting the upgrade, however. Barra said the hardware was simply too old to run the new operating system.
Google launched the Nexus One, which was made by HTC, in January 2010, and closed the phone’s support forum on 1 November last year. Some fans, however, had hoped that aspects of the latest version of the Android software would still be compatible with the phone.
Barra also responded to Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer’s attacks on Android phones. He had said that users “needed a computer science degree” to use Android.
Barra retorted that “Android, especially this new version 4.0, is an incredibly intuitive platform – the best one we’ve ever built. There are power user features, but there is no need for an instruction manual or a computer science degree”, he said.
Barra added that criticisms in some reviews about slowness of the operating system were based on one faulty device at the launch event in Hong Kong. Barra said the new Galaxy Nexus offered 60 frames per second and was “buttersilk smooth”.
“The operating system is thought through with the needs of the next three years in mind; it’s a wholesale revamp of the way people interact with the phone,” he said. “It’s something we’ve designed for the masses; it continues to cater for power users really well but the entry level users will be able to use it really well too and make the phone their own.”
Telegraph
Already running ICS on the Nexus S, but can't wait for an official version where everything works perfectly. ICS is sooo good!
Steve would know, as he is a developer with a science degree. He loves his company.
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I think Steve equates common sense to a computer science degree. I should have a phD!
So its within weeks or in time for christmass? Cause the difference is quite big.
It's within weeks of the Galaxy Nexus launch. Which is early/mid November then a few weeks which still makes it by xmas. I am guessing the first week of December my NS4G will get ICS.
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So its within weeks or in time for christmass? Cause the difference is quite big.
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There's less than 2 months till cristmas anyways, so any release before that is counted in weeks, not months (plural).
I'm also guessing first week of December.
I can't wait for ICS. I'm particularly excited about the improved browser that will sync with Chrome.
The current stock browser is utterly stupid. Actually, can someone explain to me why the Bookmark tab organizes my bookmarks by order of most visited when there's already a "most visited" tab? What's the difference?
Just be patient guys!
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The current stock browser is utterly stupid. Actually, can someone explain to me why the Bookmark tab organizes my bookmarks by order of most visited when there's already a "most visited" tab? What's the difference?
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Your most recently used bookmarks are at the top. It makes perfect sense to me. I like this behavior. Without the ability to make folders, it's a good way to present it to the user.
Dude....it's only 7-8 weeks to Christmas.....that's not so many.
Been using ICS through a ROM and man do I love it. I'm impressed by ICS and how smooth and nice looking things are, I'm using an ICS ROM built from the SDK and can't wait for an actual source ROM.
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wow good and lucky for you guys!
Any news for its twin I9000?
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i really want the ics!!!!!!!
hope it can launch early
will it has a big difference between sdk and official version?
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I like ics. Hope it come fast!
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wow good and lucky for you guys!
Any news for its twin I9000?
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It will and it will be..so be patient for that...
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Can't wait to get ICS!!
All i need is face unlock..look cools
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Omg face unlock is the only thing you need? :O
I want hardware acceleration finally! And I also cant wait for USB devices support in emulators
Hardware acceleration is going to be great. Hopefully motorola gets it in the x2 soon and the xoom. Can't wait to try it out in a tablet.
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
It will get the update.
SGS got its update, SGS2 got its update, SGS3 will get its update.
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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Get galaxy nexus.
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TheBlazingIndian said:
Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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kirdroid said:
This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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Rumor has it Samsung, HTC, etc have early access to Jellybean in order to make their Nexii. Previously everyone besides Samsung only had access when it was released.
Whether or not this affects the update schedule remains to be seen. If it doesn't, you can either expect early-mid 2013 for the update, or flash it yourself (no company, not even some ideal hypothetical, can compete with homebrew speed).
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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What are you basing any of this on? I highly doubt we will see Android 5 this soon (unless it is purely a tablet OS, which I doubt).
Based on your logic, there is no point in buying an Android phone.
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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This.
Android 5 or 4.1 will more then likely come in December just like ics and gingerbread before that. If this is true, this gives you 5 to 6 more months with ics and I doubt the s3 will be as old as you are thinking; sure better devices can come to the market in the next 6 months but let's be real, the s3 will be able to do everything for the next year to a year and a half just fine. I've been with the HTC inspire and this thing is 2 years old yet I rarely have any lag considering I use this for everything including gaming.
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Have perfect solution for u, don't by the SGS 3 and keep waiting for the perfect one, I have a Gnex and very much doubt that it will have Jelly Bean in a month or two or three , maybe more like 5 months and in the smartphone age that is like a year. Or go get a phone named after a fruit. See no one will get Jelly Bean before it makes it's debut on the next Gnex and thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Thank the fruity company for making the latest version the "best " one, at least with Samsung you get more from the next version then just S voice as they did with the 4S and a bit more power.
If you rooted, you won't bother whether Samsung update on time or not because you have everything the best XDA can offer you. If you are not rooted, obviously you are not software geek, why bother whether your GS3 running ICS, Jellybean, Gingerbread or any other version? Everything is a big problem to human if he or she want to think that way.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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yeah sorry you're right, I was certain I read the other day that they cancelled the plan but now I see it will get it july or august, still very late. And considering that, why wont sgs1 get it officially?
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
ye, even i was thinking about that problem but then i just thought that if android 5 comes out then i will use the customised rom
Custom rom/buy new phone.
Ive had enough of waiting for retarded companies to update things.
Motorola milestone - 6 months late, not fully functional (GB)
LG optimus 3d - not available till september 2012 (at the earliest), sold with the promise of prompt ics update, instead waiting more than a whole year.
Never waiting for an update again. Just gonna buy the new phones.
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
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They messed up on the Dec update and probably had to redo. Unfortunately, company bureaucracy works much more slowly than we do, and a new update cycle can take 3-5 months. This is true for any company that offers warranties - they have to break as little as they can.
Had they not messed it up, however, NS could have had its upgrade hella quickly.
Don't want to deal with company bureaucracy? Flash homebrew (NS certainly had them much, much more quickly). Otherwise there's still no better option.
s3 will get official JB update and may be cm11 or cm12 for the other version of androids
The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ime-pie-release-date-news-and-rumours-1091500
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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That's awesome. You should totally make a thread about it....
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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i feel a hint of "sarcasm" in what you wrote!
LOL
The nexus S is unlikely to get the next major version so this thread serves no purpose but to disappoint many people.
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The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
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I'd love to see the responsiveness of wp7. I tried my friends Samsung Omnia phone with WP7 and I was impressed. It was so fast and smooth. However I wouldn't use WP7 because I can't mod it
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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Will do! :highfive:
Even if nexus s isn't supported it will be by the community here on xda plus I'm betting most of us are on two year contracts (well I am anyway) and waiting to upgrade to the newest nexus when it comes out (soon)
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Who knows?! A Nexus is a Nexus after all.
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I hope google to continue support future version of android for nexus s. Most new devices are dual core or quad cores, with > 1G ram.. I dont think the new androids should only target for a high ended hardware spec. The NS is still a good "low end" demo device.
Its not really a good low end device spec wise anymore either.
These mobile devices are on what I think Anand refers to as hyper Moore's law. Which basically means the improvements on the mobile SoC are taking place a really rapid rate at this time. The difference between what a current gen chip and a two year old chip can do is huge
We are just now approaching the point where the chips are truly getting really powerful and aren't going to need to be leapfrogged by the next chip 6 months down the road. Example is the s4 pro and the next gen arm15 cores. Those chips are so powerful that they will be able to cut it for years no problem. Just how desktops have been for a couple of years.
The verge has a little piece up now on a HTC device with a 5 inch 1080p 440ppi display
There is a big deal from the software. Running stock jelly bean on the Galaxy Nexus was faster than touchwiz from S3. Single core iPhone4 and Lumia is pretty smooth to me (for the most part), taking OS differences aside.
That HTC device has been known for a while, (thats what you get for reading the verge), but I'm more interested inthe Oppo Find 5. Although I have doubt the later will be cyanogenmod supported. As for HTC, 1080p with Sense is still Sense, and you lose your warrenty rooting it and time too. Otherwize I would like a 1080p device. Though the LG Optimus G has S4 Pro and 13mp camera matches the Oppo Find 5 so its less compelling now.
With that aside I wouldn't mind a non-oversized phone with Nexus freedom. I'm looking at the Blaze by T-Mobile just getting CM10, but doesn't look like its a popular phone among devs, being Qualcomm S3 and all. I'm looking at the S3 mini too, though the form factor is ideal, it looks like a lazy attempt for Samsung to milk off their S3 popularity, for its expected retail price I'd rather get a Galaxy Nexus.
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The HTC device has been rumored forever. There where not any demo's / announcements prior to it being shown yesterday in Japan.
Its kind of a lackluster though, 16gb, non-removable battery, 8mp, no-microsd, and as I mentioned, Sense, process of unlocking and rooting...
Aside from the 1080p, I think phones like the Note2 and Optimus G has more features to offer. I'm still waiting to see a press release of the Oppo phone to see if all the specs are true though. Again, I'm bias.
Hopefully the multiple nexus rumours are true and the HTC one is built with the j butterfly blueprint. Stock android on that would be freaking awesome. I am doubtful though.
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If we don't get a new version, I think we'll get a better optimized JB. Unless they go to 5.0..
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How about our devices
Still get update from google after JB???
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I'm trying not to think about an upgrade.
I've really enjoyed every update, except 4.0.4 giving me a weird power button issue that a clean install and 4.1.1 fixed.
I literally just flashed 4.1.2 on, and AGAIN it feels like my phone is a bit faster and snappier.
I'm going to treat my Nexus S like my G1....keep updating until it until it grinds to a halt.
Before that happen, I think your power button would stop working first.
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According to Jean-Baptiste Queru of the AOSP, the xoom and nexus aren't supported.... "There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2."
later, he says he cannot comment on the future of those devices. What does this mean for us?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951841
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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I think they're working on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885269
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unofficialy it will eventually come and it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it...it's not a big jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2
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it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
The one feature from 4.2 that I really wanted is multi user support. It was an obvious omission from tablets right from the beginning.
What are the chances of fully activating this feature in 4.1.2, seeing as it already has the underpinnings under the surface?
Yes, it's sad, but those that say it's a "marketing ploy" just need to realize how old the Xoom is and how much work it takes to port these new releases to devices. Money doesn't grow on trees, and neither do man-hours. Once the 4.2 branch started happening and the Nexus 10 hardware was finalized it became Google's standard 10-inch tablet internally. The guys who would have been doing the port internally in Google probably have N10s on their desks and their Xooms are collecting dust in some drawer. That's the way the world works.
That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
Either way, if it doesn't hit AOSP, I'll either sell it to get some dough for a N10 (my mom has been talking about buying it from me) or lend my support to the porting process during the holiday break. The multi-user mode in 4.2 would be very useful on the Xoom.
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
romdroid. said:
dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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Thats a bit of a hostile response, don't you think?
And if by "core," you're referring to the SoC, yeah it kinda does matter. The tegra 2 is a tad outdated, its architecture being a big part of it (A9). The Tegra 3 was a nice upgrade on Nvidia's part, with the Samsung Exynos 5 being even better than that. I'm sure someone with even more technical expertise could explain more in detail on the differences, but the architecture itself is a good indicator.
Now on to personal experience. I've put my Xoom alongside a Nexus 7 and my Galaxy Nexus, all running 4.1.2 and yeah, the Xoom is noticeably slower. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10's performance in person. No one here is saying the Xoom is **** or slow or whatever. But it is, gasp, slower than devices with hardware that is fresh and not 2 years old. Newer technology is better, who knew?
So yeah...no offense but given the delightful way you went about disagreeing with me, I'd say you were projecting just a tad.
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That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
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The difference with those instances and now is that the Xoom was projected to get all of those, it just took a bit of time for it to hit AOSP. According to the google groups statement, the Xoom is slated to stay on 4.1.2 (I forget the actual quote). Now of course, that could mean, as you say, that it might just be a while for it to hit AOSP, but I think that's being a bit hopeful. Hopefully we'll get an official word on it soon but I think thats about it, at least with regards to AOSP.
And honestly, the Xoom had 18+ months of official support. For those that remember, 18 months was what Google wanted manufacturers under the Android Update Alliance to go by for supporting devices. So they've met their own target and then some with regards to both the Xoom and the Nexus S.
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
alex94kumar said:
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It has been a fabulous 2 years, we'll still get 4.2 support, just unofficially
AOSP not supporting Xoom
No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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The thing is, 2 years is actually...kind of a lot relative to the other first gen 10" tablets. The galaxy tab 10.1 took forever to get ICS and was put at EOL after that (back in June/July I think). Asus has handled the Transformer series pretty well; the OG Transformer received a timely ICS update and I believe was updated to 4.1, not sure if they're going past that. And finally the Acer A500 I think met a similar fate as the Galaxy tab, ending with 4.0.
So that puts the Xoom at one of 2 of the 4 Honeycomb tablets circa 2011 (were there any other notables?) that made it all the way to 4.1. Not too shabby.
Not shabby at all. A shame though that the reason for not supporting is a time limit instead of a hardware thing.
Phones changed a lot since nexus one to ICS
Not much changed hardware wise since Xoom and now IMO
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
Just found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997434 that the system partition on the Xoom is rather small-could this be the reason that Xoom fell from AOSP support and didn't get all of the JB features?
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Muffycheeks said:
So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
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