I have tried charge it via usb and regular charger but not working, when i checked the temperature it says 67 degrees, which is a lie cos its not hot at all..So i believe the sensor is broken. Is there a software trick to alter or widen those values to charge the phone cos there is not a security issue?? And where is that bloody sensor on the card i cannot figure it out.... Thank you very much...
I don't think there is any way to test Temperature sensor. So you probably have to go to Service Center.
Other sensor tests can be checked by *#0*# though.
Regards.
it sounds like you should return your phone and get it repaired...
I cannot sent it back to have it repaired cos i have changed its display which was broken, so i need to find a way to alter those charging overheat protection values...
Well if you have a phone with no warranty you have limited choice .
One factory reset that fails flash Samsung stock rom firmware via Odin .
That will rule out faulty software .
jje
am i not clear or i dont know.. Guys temperature sensor thinks that battery is burning at 67 degrees but it is not.......so if i factoru reset it what will change????
sensor is still broken, what i need is somehow disable its overheat protection...
At least you should reset the phone by turning off and removing the battery for a while, it could be something temporarily wrong with the communication between the sensor and the cpu.
have u tried a different battery?
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am i not clear or i dont know.. Guys temperature sensor thinks that battery is burning at 67 degrees but it is not.......so if i factoru reset it what will change????
sensor is still broken, what i need is somehow disable its overheat protection...
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You claim its the temp sensor do you have proof its hardware fault not software fault Putting clean firmware on the phone rules out software /firmware problem but its up to you to go that route or not .
jje
i have tried literally 6 different firmwares and all said 67 degrees and i have left the battery out for almost a day its still the same...
I also have tried a different battery and again it did not charge...But there must be a trick for this, cos the protection, i think, is by software, and therefore, there must be a way to change those values to enable the phone to charge at "67 degrees"...
any solution on this problem?
i have exactly same problem. if you just have the schematics that shows which one is the temp sensor would be great.
I also have the same exact problem. Found this post on google. My temperature sensor shows:
67 Degree on idle
-7 Degree when I attach the Samsung earphones
Below 60 while I'm charging (I would have to stick the cable twice for the charging to work)
Still trying to figure out the issue. Something I have also is that during music playback, left earpiece barely releases any sound. Don't know if its related to circuitry found in the sound jack.
i had this problem a few days ago..
but it just dissapeared after rebooting it think, geuss i was lucky or something
The same problem with a Xperia X8
In my case, my phone drop in water and after a hour of dry the battery sensor going crazy. All functions of the phone works well but the battery sensor start to show elevated temperatures and minutes later extreme low number. After a month the values stop in more than 60c and since then I can't get charge (becouse the policy of the phone to not charge when the battery is hot).
I dont know is the battery but Im sure is not in the battery itself.
The tecnical support of my phone provider (where bought the phone) reject the cell because they are not sure if the changes the will made will be repair the phone. This is because after the accident the garantee is off and if they can't repare the phone don't want be responsible if return my phone worse than the start.
So, my only choise is buy a new ugly phone, wait 4 months to the contract ends and buy a new decent phone with a 12 months plan or... repair my broken phone.
I think if recompile the nAa kernel (my actual kernel) with some changes like hardcode the temp of the battery and install in my phone this will works.
Really I don't know if this is a kernel stuff. I hope, but is this is the case... I never compile a kernel before. I use linux everyday but never mess with the kernel.
issue
maybe its an issue, you should send it to technical support
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I have a SPV M500 for a while, and now, when it coulder outside the phone simply locks afther a while. The green led keeps blinking but a can't receive calls, if a reminder is set, it dousent react, and the only solution to revive the phone is a fost reset (or to remove the battery cover a few time). Does anyone experience this problem? Is it normal that a 15-18 C temperature to freeze these phone model? Does anyone knows a solution? I have the last BigStore ROMs installed, could it be a software prob?
That behaviour may happen in subzero, but it should never happen within the 10 degree range! Batteries tend to be the component most sensitive to the cold, so I suggest trying another battery. Or for now, try conditioning the battery to increase the chemical activity in it - this may help its resistance to the cold, in addition to possibly extending its battery life. Conditioning the battery is basically letting the battery drop to near zero with intense usage (like looping a video or heavy gaming) before charging it, charging it to full and letting it drop to zero again through intense usage - this cycle may have to repeated 2 to 3 times to get results.
WOW it must be cold where you are.
HI,
I use my XDA to do count stock in frigdes that are 0 to -16 degrees and i have had no problems?
Maybe its because im only in the fridge for a few minutes. But i count everyday and i have no problems.
I'm pointing to a software prob too. I have those 'it wont turn back on' things (hot or cold) happen and the only way to fix it is with a soft reset.
Maybe cleaning the contacts of the battery would help.
I really dont think to be a software problem, cause it's happening evena after a couple of hard resets, and with the latest original rom for the model. I tryed even to empty and recharce a couple of times the internal battery, thinking that im might need "formating" due to usure. Ive bought an extra battery of 1300mAh, but all is the same. I-ve installed a prog callet Batti, that shows the battery pover and alo the temperature of the external battery, but it shows a 2.5-2.8 C INDOORE, IN MY HAND, where it sould be around 25-28 C.
I observed that the phoone freezes when the batti shows 2.1-2.2 C (i think 21-22 C). Can someone try this program (it's free) to see what temperature its showing?
Tx
Can someone please use a temperature reading software, to see at what temperature works usualy the phone. I'm using Batti, that shows 2.4-2.6 C when it should show 24-26C. Tx.
I think WMWiFiRouter caused my battery to stop working, permanently. I know, that sounds crazy, right? Here's what happened...
o I plugged the phone into a wall charger.
o I set up WMWiFiRouter on my Hermes. It worked perfectly... I just had to turn on DHCP Allocator.
o I connected two laptops to it, doing basic web browsing.
o I ran a ping running constantly, and every once in a while, the ping to the 'net would fail... resetting the IP address on my laptop always fixed it.
o After several hours of using it like this, the connection died. I went to the phone, and it was off, and had a red LED light lit. It would not turn on at all. The phone, while not scorching, was hotter than I've ever experienced before.
o The battery I was using was an extended battery. It no longer works. I've used this battery exclusively for almost a year, and have never had a single issue with it.
o I tried the original phone battery, and it worked fine.
So, the phone is fine, but the battery is dead. I'm not suggesting that WMWiFiRouter has a software problem of any kind. But I'm betting the strain of using WiFi and 3G at the same time for extended periods was too much for the phone, causing more heat than usual, indicating the battery was working too hard. So, I wouldn't tell anyone not to use WMWiFi, but be careful. I'm afraid to use it again, and yet I might take my chances anyway, because it's so darn useful .
John
maybe thats why there are not more programs like it
with batt limits
and latency when i routes i'm sure
it not a good replacement for a usbWifi card and a wifi Router
How long ago did the other battery die? You may want to try it again a day later or so.
Yes, the devices take a lot power using WiFi full time and so obviously the device will get hot, which they don't like. How hot they get is device specific though, doesn't seem too bad with my Kaiser. One guy has claimed running it continuesly for a month without issue.
So short version: maybe
You are right! I just tried it after a couple of days, and the extended battery does indeed work again! How did you know that ?
Probably the battery just overheated and got a chemical imbalance due to it... often settles down if you leave it alone a bit. Happens with all kinds of batteries, not just phone batteries
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Probably the battery just overheated and got a chemical imbalance due to it... often settles down if you leave it alone a bit. Happens with all kinds of batteries, not just phone batteries
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Try using a stock battery, you may find that it will work OK.
Most lithium batteries have some form of resettable thermal trip within them to prevent fire/explosion due to catastophic discharge. It will reset after a time depending on how hot the battery got and how fast it can cool down (better out of the phone). If you have noticed the stock battery, it has a metal plate to try to act as a simple heatsink/spreader. Third party batteries don't usually have this and thus suffer more from overheat.
The ones that you have heard of from laptops that go 'BLEWIE!!' are usually due to faulty manufacture causing an internal breakdown of isolation layers and subsequently an internal short by one or more cells not covered by the thermal trip.
Yeah what he ^^^ said
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I shall have to stop snacking on those dictionaries Chainfire, they give me and other people heartburn!!
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I am in need of help can you please tell me where and what to download to turn my verizon xv6800 into a wmwifirouter? any info will be greatly appreciated
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I think WMWiFiRouter caused my battery to stop working, permanently. I know, that sounds crazy, right? Here's what happened...
o I plugged the phone into a wall charger.
o I set up WMWiFiRouter on my Hermes. It worked perfectly... I just had to turn on DHCP Allocator.
o I connected two laptops to it, doing basic web browsing.
o I ran a ping running constantly, and every once in a while, the ping to the 'net would fail... resetting the IP address on my laptop always fixed it.
o After several hours of using it like this, the connection died. I went to the phone, and it was off, and had a red LED light lit. It would not turn on at all. The phone, while not scorching, was hotter than I've ever experienced before.
o The battery I was using was an extended battery. It no longer works. I've used this battery exclusively for almost a year, and have never had a single issue with it.
o I tried the original phone battery, and it worked fine.
So, the phone is fine, but the battery is dead. I'm not suggesting that WMWiFiRouter has a software problem of any kind. But I'm betting the strain of using WiFi and 3G at the same time for extended periods was too much for the phone, causing more heat than usual, indicating the battery was working too hard. So, I wouldn't tell anyone not to use WMWiFi, but be careful. I'm afraid to use it again, and yet I might take my chances anyway, because it's so darn useful .
John
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Don't the new modern cellular batteries have on-board processors that are supposed to regulate the power, and shut the battery down to prevent damage from overcharging or severe drain? Maybe the aftermarket battery you used had a defective or mismatched processor for the battery.
-Jay
I love playing/streaming music through tcpmp while at work. Only problem is that after about a couple of hours of streaming music the kaiser will just shut down all the way down. the first time scared the hell out of me. But I had read the WHOLE wiki on lithium batteries so I quickly calmed down and hoped that it was the battery's safety circuitry causeing the abrupt stoppage. My kaiser also wears a clear case, which looks great and restricts very little when using the keyboard but sadly it works as a great insulator along with the rubber, grippy battery cover of the kaiser's. So double insulation is causing the failure but I don't want my kaiser unprotected either.
I have got some plans on rigging up a heatsink apparatus that will extend past the case or replace the restrictive case and the clear case as well. Another reason to find or build an effective sink would be to preserve the battery's life. Supposedly heat is the quickiest way to kill a lithium battery. Now thinking about it I could probably do without the pain in the a$$ to get off back cover all together. as long as the battery sat in its cavity snuggly enough. I'm thinking a few layers of aluminum screening soldered or glued to together would make a fine heatsink. if done neatly would probably look like carbon fiber! Hopefully a good Hsink can be sold by a third party but I doubt it since extreme computing/heating since to be a new issue.
OBTW, WMWiFi makes a great hand warming program when its cold outside!
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I am in need of help can you please tell me where and what to download to turn my verizon xv6800 into a wmwifirouter? any info will be greatly appreciated
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stop being lazy and google it
Hello i got an unidentified issue with my Touch after reassembling it.
I bought a White Cover for my Touch and everything worked fine on disassemble and reassemble it. But now i got this crazy issue with my batterylife. It is not normal, the life is so shorten up to some hours without doing anything.
When the mobile phone is just idling the battery life is after 2 hours from 100% to 60% down and after 6 hours my battery is empty. I don't understand why this happen.
Could i do anything wrong on the assemble? The other thing is, that my camera stops also working after this reassemble. I can start the program but nothing happen. Tried many reboots and also formating system and installing it again.
Camera is still not working and something eats my battery
Does anyone have ideas? Thanks in advance.
Greets
tom
When you try to start the program, does anything happen? Does it launch the program and display a black screen as if the lens was blocked, or the camera chip is not plugged into the main board? It may have become disconnected during the case swap.
As to the battery, it could be linked, it may not - I don't know I wonder if something could be shorting internally afterwards, but I wouldn't be too sure!
How old is the battery as well - it may well just be coincidence that it has come when you changed the case (although I doubt it!)
When i try to launch the program nothing happens. It doesn't show anything just idle, like i would have never clicked to open it.
I will check today again the camera at the mainboard, when i will arrive at home after work. Maybe it is this problem, that camera tries to connect and can't and eats my batterylife.
The battery is about 2 1/2 years old but worked fine before i changed the cover my phone was many days on before it gone empty. It's just curious
Now i need always the charger for my phone every some hours
Damn, i tried reassembling it again but it didn't solve my issue. My Battery is still shorten empty and camera is also not working after reseating it.
Hey stu any other ideas? I have to recharge my phone 4-6 times a day, this sucks really.
Do you think it could be caused by the cover? That maybe a piece of metal is sucking my battery out?
Recharging of my battery is also low now, it need soooo long. Please need help.
I really am still tempted to say the battery is dead.
it could be worth installing HomeScreen++ (UI) so you can see how much charge is being drained, and also how much goes in when charging.
it may be possible, on a long shot, that the battery is not passing enough power to boot the camera - who knows.
Is your battery slightly buldging as well? This is something I have noticed at my work that happens when batteries are coming to end of life - they also tend to be rather erratic and do not maintain a charge or take a charge (these are 4400mah batteries that cost £100 as well :/)
Have you read the thread in rom development as well about battery conditioning? That may help, anything is possible, right?
I took my devices apart yesterday to see if I could find something that may be shorting - but I was unsuccessful
So okey i have downloaded this HomeScreen UI and my Battery is draining 326mA/1305mW and Device is 36°C or 97°F hot. Is this okey? How much should it be?
At charging my Battery it shows +265mA/1008mW.
Battery is not bulging its ok like always.
Maybe i should buy new better battery on ebay?
Greets
tom
Sweet jesus, my batery drain is 79mA/331mW
Something is causing some massive battery drain - What apps are you running/installed?
Stu i have normal installed programs of my ROM Onyx Ultimate 4.1.6. But it can't be any program installed, i did a hardreset and it was before the reset too like that.
It happens after i changed my Cover to White with everything except the digitizer, Speaker and LCD display them were okey.
Could this issue be caused of my Speaker? On putting it out from old Cover i broke it a little bit with a screw driver i push it to get it out and now the sound is weird the bass is warped. I ordered a new one, it still works but ****ty.
But who knows, if its not this Speaker drain so much, but why it should I am so helpless
Be interesting to see what happens with the replacement to be honest - I am really intrigued!
Not a lot more I can suggest for now - I'd still try a new battery after the speaker if there is no improvment.
How do the connections look on the speaker? Are they all clear and not touching anything else as well?
Okey i will buy a new battery for my phone, maybe its the issue, but i don't think so.
Today it is curious my phone just drain 650mW not 13xxmW anymore. But when i charge my phone, its increase again to 980mW
I will disassemble my phone today again at home and check if some metal is not correctly in the cover.
Okey i tested my phone again without the cover. I disassemble it and powered it without cover on and my battery was draining same about 1169mW.
So it is not the cover, maybe i should really buy a new battery.
Ok it did not help with the new battery. Still the same issue like before.
I bought a new mobile phone HTC desire and I am so happy about that. There is no compare with the old touch
Hmm, still trying to figure out what would be wrong if it was not related to the battery - possibly what controls it - but then that is a hardware fault.
I'll do some more thinking and see what I can come up with.
The desire is an awesome phone - one of the ones I am looking at getting soon. (Currently have a Hero as my main device and my Elfs as my spare/mess around phones)
yea desire is really awesome, i like to browsing through the market place
i think the elf has problems with the camera and this the issue for sucking battery out.
because it doesn't work anymore. when i press on the camera button, nothing happes.
no sandclock is showing up. just idle like never clicked on the button.
I´ve just come back from a two month expedition on Borneo. But when i got back to civilization and turned on my trusty N1 I quickly realized that my battery performance has dropped significantly. Before I usually had one day of heavy use (including Wifi, 3G, tethering and GPS usage), but now I only have about 7 hours standby with everything except GSM turned off. Which renders the phone useless for my (normal) use. The phone actually consumes so much power that the battery level drops while charging. The only way to charge it up is to turn the phone completely off.
I flashed the RoDrIgUeZsTyLe™ MIUIMOD -ROM before I left for my trip, so I thought maybe that was the problem (some bug i the kernel or something), so i flashed back to CM6 with no success. I have also tried a new battery.
Anyone knows what can be the cause?
All help is deeply appreciated --- I miss my good old N1!
I accidentally placed this in the wrong section - can anybody move it to Q&A?
Try the battery app in my sig to pull your battery values, then post in that thread and one of us can help you see what's happening with your battery.
maybe the charger is the problem?
Just throwing it out there... I've seen it happen for Laptop users...
Try the battery app in my sig to pull your battery values, then post in that thread and one of us can help you see what's happening with your battery.
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Voltage (mV): 4035.84
Current (mA): -464.98
Temp (C): 30.2
Percent: 90
Batt age: 94
Full40(mAh): 1452
Min Chg Curr(mA):80
Min Chg Volt(mV): 4099
Empty Curr (mA):200.0
Empty Volt (mV): 3.426
Capacity(mAh):1273
Aged Capa(mAh): 1393
BTW...I have also tried several different chargers without any success.
Hi,
I had similar problems with my rooted N1 with stock Froyo.
The problem for me was a radio image older than regular. Baseband version should be something _4.06 or higher.
You can check this information in Settings ->About Phone
Sent from my Nexus One
Fulvio Minichini said:
Hi,
I had similar problems with my rooted N1 with stock Froyo.
The problem for me was a radio image older than regular. Baseband version should be something _4.06 or higher.
You can check this information in Settings ->About Phone
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I got 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 so it doesn't seem to be old, but I'll try to update the radio anyway with a custom stock rom from modaco. Will let you guys know if it helps
Update: I'm now back at *****_4.06****. No change
My first thought is: what level of power did you leave your battery with before you went away?
Lithium batteries are permanently damaged if the voltage drops below a certain level. Leakage will mean that any battery left for a while will lose charge.
Therefore, if you leave a battery with close to zero power left for a long time, leakage can mean the charge level drops below the critical minimum level and the cells become damaged.
As such, it is recommended to never store lithium batteries with below 40% charge, and to store them in a cool environment, since leakage is faster at higher temperatures.
Yeah, that was my first thought too, since I forgot to turn it off before I left (the phone was stored in a room with AC at least). However, I have now gotten a new battery and it doesn't help...
I have tried to check if there are any programs that are running in the background that draw unnecessary power, but i cant find any ---at least not with system panel. The cpu-load also seem to be normal.
Anyone got some ideas?
Thats really wierd... The only thing you can do is reflash the radio and flash it to stock. Then use the new battery and charge it overnight - so it overcharges slightly. Let it totally drain till the phone turns off, and repeat a coupla of times. Ignore the levels reported by the phone.
See if it starts to behave normally after that. If not you either have another dud battery or there's something wrong with the charging circuit in your phone.
If you have a friend with an N1, you could try charging your respective batteries in your phones, then swap batteries. See how much time each phone lasts
Thanks for the tip.
I'll try that before I buy a new cellphone.
So recently my phone (unrooted unmodded N910C) battery is being extremely weird. When I try to charge my phone, it sometimes doesn't go beyond around 70-90% but if I take out the battery and put it back in, it shows 100%. It sometimes also shuts off on its own at around 40% and when I plug in a charger, it shows sometimes 0% and sometimes 40% (but if I turn it on, it still says 0%). I've tried a lot of things, including discharging completely and recharging to 100% (powered off), factory reset, clearing cache, and quick starting battery and nothing seems to work. Does anyone have similar problems and has anyone found a solution to this?
The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english
scamex said:
The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english
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Are you sure it's the battery? I took it out and everything looks normal, including the pins. Also, battery apps said that my battery health was good or should I not trust them at all? I just don't want to buy an extra battery if the problem is not with the battery.
I meant the catode pin inside battery not outside. It's your call if you buy a battery or not. I just writed here how the proces work because i have fixed lot of motherboard i knowing about this i have explained to you. Cheers
i have the same problem too and i tested every things and now i am really tire , i dont think thats problem was the battery , can anybody help me plz?
Had similar problem yes new battery at the samsung store the assistant said many note 4 batteries selling I got the last one. Maybe we got a bad batch or its deliberate. Maybe we could do a survey how many people have had to buy a new battery
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I also posted a similar problem. In my case the problem is more alarming, because it's happening in two different batteries, one of them is rather new and fresh. It seems that it started out of the blue, I did not make any major change in the phone.
I am still investigating the issue, I'll be back with more observations.
Just an update on my situation: I bought a new battery and now the battery readings seem to be fine.
I had the same problem as you OP. The problem was definitely the battery for me at least. Bought a new one just the other week and now everything is working perfectly
If the affected battery is under warranty get it replaced for free. Or if the problem does not get solved after cross checking many possibilities. Just buy a new battery. Simple. Good luck.