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Pretty awesome new feature in my opinion added today!
http://www.google.com/chat/voice/
http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/make-and-receive-calls-in-gmail.html
Just used it to make a call. Pretty slick. Bring on the Android app!
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Pretty cool, so is this meant to be used on your PC? Or can you place calls for free using gmail on your phone?
I just saw this in my email and had to try it out!
It's pretty neat!
can't wait until we get in on our phones!!!
I've had the google voice phone number on my G1 for about a year and the match ing google voice app. And now have it on my Vibrant. It is really nice.
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Pretty cool, so is this meant to be used on your PC? Or can you place calls for free using gmail on your phone?
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This is meant to be used on the PC. If you already have google voice, then you just install the new video chat add-on (linked to in first post) and you're all set.
Anyone you call will see your google voice number pop up. You can put in a phone number or the name of one of your google contacts.
This is a good way to communicate with people without having to leave your phone on speaker or break your stride if you're working on the computer.
pretty sweet...doubt Google's going to bring it to phones though and upset the apple cart with carriers
just wanted to know if incoming calls through your google number is free as well?
i know that outbound calls are free through data, but what about incoming calls in which your google voice number is forwarded to your mobile phone when someone calls your google voice number?
is that free or there is charge for that?
thanks a lot , i wish someone could give some clarification on this
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just wanted to know if incoming calls through your google number is free as well?
i know that outbound calls are free through data, but what about incoming calls in which your google voice number is forwarded to your mobile phone when someone calls your google voice number?
is that free or there is charge for that?
thanks a lot , i wish someone could give some clarification on this
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Call your GV # from your house phone and find out. I remember trying it out like 2 days ago, I think it uses your carrier's plan minutes.
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Call your GV # from your house phone and find out. I remember trying it out like 2 days ago, I think it uses your carrier's plan minutes.
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thanks, will do that, then find out later on if my airtime minutes are being deducted. Is it the same with incoming text messages? maybe not , right? has to be free
yes it does uses the airtime minutes, otherwise, it wouldnt have reflected in my recent activity status on my tmobile account.
First of all, I'm looking for a way to make and receive calls over wifi. The reason is that I need to save on minutes, and also that I will be out of the country for a couple of weeks very soon.
I am trying to make sure I have a wifi connection so that I can receive calls from the US with VOIP and wifi.
Secondarily, I'm looking for a service that will provide me cheap calls and texting from my Droid X to the Philippines while I am in the states.
I've been trying to find information on this, but it's very confusing. No I don't have Gizmo5, so that's no help.
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First of all, I'm looking for a way to make and receive calls over wifi. The reason is that I need to save on minutes, and also that I will be out of the country for a couple of weeks very soon.
I am trying to make sure I have a wifi connection so that I can receive calls from the US with VOIP and wifi.
Secondarily, I'm looking for a service that will provide me cheap calls and texting from my Droid X to the Philippines while I am in the states.
I've been trying to find information on this, but it's very confusing. No I don't have Gizmo5, so that's no help.
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I have been tinkering with SipDroid and it appears to work pretty well. You will need some type of SIP termination to make calls.
There are a handleful of SIP clients in the marketplace, but you are going to have to get your hands dirty and learn about SIP to make this work.
Or just get a Skype account? Or Use Gizmo5 with a Sip client?
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I have been tinkering with SipDroid and it appears to work pretty well. You will need some type of SIP termination to make calls.
There are a handleful of SIP clients in the marketplace, but you are going to have to get your hands dirty and learn about SIP to make this work.
Or just get a Skype account? Or Use Gizmo5 with a Sip client?
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Skype doesn't work on wifi, Gizmo5 no longer accepting new accounts, this is the dead end I've been at for a week, before making this thread.
I am trying to figure out SIP, but am admittedly discouraged right now.
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Skype doesn't work on wifi, Gizmo5 no longer accepting new accounts, this is the dead end I've been at for a week, before making this thread.
I am trying to figure out SIP, but am admittedly discouraged right now.
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Ahh. Sorry. I have my own asterisk (SIP) server. When I want to play with VoIP, I just create a new extension on that.
SipDroid evidently has some connection to pbxes.org and connects to that service pretty easily it looks like.
PBXes.orrg also has a basic free account to get you started. Looks like it allos 2000 minutes per month with a maximum call time of 60 minutes per call for free.
Might be worth giving it a shot.
You can also get service from a provider like vitelity or teliax pretty cheaply.
You can make calls through gmail now. Not tried it but might be an option for you.
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You can make calls through gmail now. Not tried it but might be an option for you.
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i'm in the same boat. about to travel to india and would love to ditch the calling card. i've been using gmail voip since wed. and have been pretty impressed as far as internet calling goes. my plan is use that when i'm out of the country.
anyone know if having an ip address in india will wig it out? i know the gmail call option is only for us customers right now.
I still only vaguely understand what PBXes.org does. None of this stuff is accessible.
Is there anyone who has a system that works, outside of the US, that allows you to receive wifi calls and does not involve gizmo5?
I don't mind learning something new here, but I don't have too much time, and I need it to be the right something.
I've played around with a lot of free Android SIP clients, and SIPDroid is definitely what you want. But in order to make calls to landlines in the US, you will need a SIP account that allows BYOD (Bring Your Own Device). That means you'll need to pay. Nobody will bridge SIP calls to real phones for free any more. BroadVoice is one choice.
As you see, none of this stuff is plug and play yet. You'll simply need to learn it. I recommend starting by getting a free SIP account at iptel.org, and set things up in SIPDroid to make some free Voip-Voip calls between devices, that way you'll learn.
Okay, for now, I can skip the complex stuff...
All I need is a way to make and receive calls from normal land and mobile US phones over wifi alone, when there is no signal... even when out of the country.
I have a PBX account, a sipgate account, and sipdroid, truphone, fring, and google voice on my Droid X.
I'm only just starting to get an idea of what does what.
I'm not looking for free necessarily, but I also can't invest a ton in this... I just want to be reachable for the next three weeks.
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Okay, for now, I can skip the complex stuff...
All I need is a way to make and receive calls from normal land and mobile US phones over wifi alone, when there is no signal... even when out of the country.
I have a PBX account, a sipgate account, and sipdroid, truphone, fring, and google voice on my Droid X.
I'm only just starting to get an idea of what does what.
I'm not looking for free necessarily, but I also can't invest a ton in this... I just want to be reachable for the next three weeks.
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Sipgate should work - along with sipdroid.
You need to learn how to put your sipgate login credentials into Sipdroid (Proxy, user name, password)
Once you successfully have connected SipDroid to your SipGate account, anytime someone calls your Sipgate number it will ring on sipdroid (assuming you have sipdroid running.
I can probably help you if you'd like, it can be a little confusing .. but I think if you dig into the proxy and register server settings you'll get this figured out.
One more thing. Make sure wherever you are going has a good connection back to sipgate... just having wifi doesn't mean anything. A good connection (ping times less than 100 ms and plenty of bandwidth) will be the key factors.
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Sipgate should work - along with sipdroid.
You need to learn how to put your sipgate login credentials into Sipdroid (Proxy, user name, password)
Once you successfully have connected SipDroid to your SipGate account, anytime someone calls your Sipgate number it will ring on sipdroid (assuming you have sipdroid running.
I can probably help you if you'd like, it can be a little confusing .. but I think if you dig into the proxy and register server settings you'll get this figured out.
One more thing. Make sure wherever you are going has a good connection back to sipgate... just having wifi doesn't mean anything. A good connection (ping times less than 100 ms and plenty of bandwidth) will be the key factors.
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Thanks, I'm going to try this as my last ditch effort before I'm gone tomorrow... Any way to make my number the google voice number, or would that force me back to using 3G only?
Fyi, I used to have,well still do but don't use it much, my sipgate number forwarded to my google voice all setup through sipdroid,which is about the most consistent android sip client,which in turn allowed free calls (us atleast) over wifi & data. If you search xda for sipdroid or google for that matter you should find some good setup how to's.
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Thanks, I'm going to try this as my last ditch effort before I'm gone tomorrow... Any way to make my number the google voice number, or would that force me back to using 3G only?
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Fyi, I used to have,well still do but don't use it much, my sipgate number forwarded to my google voice all setup through sipdroid,which is about the most consistent android sip client,which in turn allowed free calls (us atleast) over wifi & data. If you search xda for sipdroid or google for that matter you should find some good setup how to's.
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Exactly. Have your G-Voice number call the Sipgate number.
The original how-to was in the G1 XDA development area I believe. SIPdroid and IPKall, along with Google Voice and Google Voice Callback should be all you need to get by. I have unlimited incoming and outgoing calls, as well as unlimited texting both ways. As far as out of country goes, I'm not sure what the deal is with that. But here are some links.
forum.xda-developers *DOT* com/showthread.php?t=548405
gurnted.wordpress *DOT* com/guides/
I actually had to use my G1 as a wifi only phone for over a year when I was broke and couldn't afford anything. It definitely was better than nothing, and without android I would have really been screwed. Hope this helps.
It's nice to have that option, as long as you have descent wifi. I also noticed sipgate was more reliable then gizmo, for me atleast, but if you want to get serious about it, set it all up through pbx or your own server.
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I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
Have you tried to download and use the skype app over wifi? It may cost you a little to call but would be better than the roaming fees.
jmd1981 said:
I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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Google Voice on Android does not currently support VOIP from the handset to the server. That feature is only available through the Gmail desktop browser page on an operating system that is supported by the Gtalk voice and video chat plugin. Another way to get end-to-end VOIP with Google Voice is using Gizmo5, if you had signed up for that service before Google bought it out. That only lets you do incoming calls though.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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If you have a temp visa or better yet a coworker or friend there you could probably get month-to-month service there. That would be the best bet, but it's generally one of the more difficult countries for visitors to get a sim card in. The airport might have some rental services, but iirc they rented you the whole phone (by the day no less) and it's fairly expensive compared to regular service.
Also it goes without saying that if you want to use a Softbank sim you will need to subsidy unlock (also known as sim unlock) the phone.
Edit: it is rumored that the WiFi calling feature that T-mo is bringing to the G2 and other Android devices will allow a connection and minutes usage internationally. Personally I think this is unlikely (for a few reasons, some of which are legal/regulatory) but it would be pretty nice. Of course this would seriously short circuit the way GV for Android works. You would not be able to make outbound calls with GV in the caller ID.
If you need an unlock code for that phone. to use a japan sim. Let me know via PM
You could always install skype and set your outgoing caller id to your google voice number. Then sign up for a number at sipgate.com and add your new number to google voice. Once that's activated, download and install Fring or sipdroid and add your sipgate information. Use skype to making outgoing, take incoming calls with fring or sipdroid. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for unlimited skype-out, you can try one of the many google voice dialer apps out there. They basically initiate calls using the google voice web interface, which you can actually do via your browser if none of the apps work out.
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Or just buy a skype number and unlimited skype out then setup skype caller id and forward your GV calls to your skype #
I'm not sure if any devs will see this here, so I will probably post in the G1 dev forum or the general android forum as well, but I wanted to do a search first and this is the only similar thread I have found. Anyway...
As some of you know, you can now place FREE calls to anywhere in the US or Canada using GMail and the "voice and video chat plugin". You can also receive calls from within GMail if you have a GoogleVoice account and you set it up to forward GoogleVoice calls to "Google Chat" as well as your phone(s).
This is awesome! I can now answer calls from GMail instead of my phone. I wish the desktop GoogleTalk app did that so I wouldn't have to always keep a webbrowser page open to GMail, but that is not what this post is about...
I got to thinking: if GMail can place and receive free phone calls, why can't I do that on my phone (or any device with internet)? I downloaded every available webbrowser for Android and tried to surf to GMail, but none of them even loaded the page (???), much less the plugin.
While searching for any possible solution, I learned that the required "voice and video chat plugin" is available for Linux. This fact makes me almost positive that it is somehow possible for someone to develop an Android app that loads that plugin, logs in to GMail (spoofing a desktop browser), and displays the Pop-out dial pad capable of placing and receiving free calls!
Is anyone up to the challenge? This is huge people! FREE phone where ever there is internet. I hope someone can make this happen.
There is a way of doing this... you ARE talking about calling and using your 3g/4g network, right?
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Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
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Don't you have WiFi Calling?
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Do you not realize the WiFi calling app still relies on the TMO network?
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Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
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No, there is no equivalent of the gmail chat plugin. You're limited to using a sip client and forwarding your GV to that number
I'm pretty sure you can't even roam in Japan anymore. Unless this phone has the UMTS frequencies for 1900, you wont get anything. Recently, Softbank shut off GSM/2G service.
I have google voice installed on my wifi xoom when I try to call someone it calls my phone then when I answer it my phone calls the contact I tried to call from GV.? Is there any way to just make calls from GV? It also is the same for the browser version of GV. Texting works on both though.
Google voice is not a voice over IP service, it doesn't do calls.
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Actually there is a way. Go to the Xoom developers forum and open the thread called "CRTAnim+desktop.........". Go to last page. Note that you have to be rooted to do this.
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o man I was thinking it did because when I had it installed on my old g1 back in the day I made calls from my g1 with google voice. But don't remember it calling my g1 then connecting to the contact I called. Sorry for the dumb question. I feel very supid now
okay thanks don't know if I will be rooting this one tho. Can't say I won't because I always do when I get tired of waiting for the newest update lol.
If you dont want to root, and still make voip calls with this, its easy..
get a sipdroid account, at pbxes.org
install sipdroid on the xoom
install something like acrobits SIP dialer, or, you should be able to do it with your google voice account
the thread that tells you how to sync your google voice account to sipdroid is here
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-apps/15366-sipdroid-free-voip-via-google-voice.html
there are some issues today with pbxes servers, so it may not work right at the moment, but trust me, I have been making voip calls from my evo for months using this, and, made tons of calls from the xoom earlier in the week using this method
have fun!
cool thanks I will check that out.
ericman77 said:
I have google voice installed on my wifi xoom when I try to call someone it calls my phone then when I answer it my phone calls the contact I tried to call from GV.? Is there any way to just make calls from GV? It also is the same for the browser version of GV. Texting works on both though.
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Wait... how did you get Google Voice on your Wi-Fi Xoom?
It's not in the Market.
you dont need google voice on your tablet, per se, you just need a google voice account, ad, you do the configuring from the google voice website..
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Wait... how did you get Google Voice on your Wi-Fi Xoom?
It's not in the Market.
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Side load it. There's an older thread on this forum titled something like "I got GV working...." it includes a link where you can do a hacked version of GV that works great for SMS.
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I have an HTC EVO (with a bad esn) that I'm using just on wifi - I'm using Google Voice and GrooveIP to make calls but without service I can't finish the Google voice setup - It needs an active # so that it can send a text.
My question is - Is there an easy way to get around this? I've looked around for answers and I've learned a little about SIP but it seems like there's got to be an easier way. The other thing I was thinking was to just flash it to cricket, activate service for an hour, activate GV and then cancel.
Anyone been through this already and have advice?
SIPAndroid might be useful. Back when I set it up it did not ask me for a confirmation SMS. I used the default provider that comes with the application.
The reason I am trying to finish activating GV on the phone is so I can text from the same GV # that I call from. Wouldn't going through a SIP service force me to use a different #?
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The reason I am trying to finish activating GV on the phone is so I can text from the same GV # that I call from. Wouldn't going through a SIP service force me to use a different #?
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No since you already have a phone # (your GV #), the SIP is just the connection between the phone line and the internet.
I take it your setting up through your computer? Stop what your doing. Its a pain in the butt. (I know from experience)
Just download the Google voice app and sign in using the email account used to set up your Google voice account. Takes like 2 min and no calling necessary
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I take it your setting up through your computer? Stop what your doing. Its a pain in the butt. (I know from experience)
Just download the Google voice app and sign in using the email account used to set up your Google voice account. Takes like 2 min and no calling necessary
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I think this way it still tries to call using the regular radio and not WiFi
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I think this way it still tries to call using the regular radio and not WiFi
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Worth a try.. and i dont think it would.. GV and others like it that have calling, like skype, generally KNOW your trying to not use talk time so they know to do it via internet/3g/4g/wifi
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Worth a try.. and i dont think it would.. GV and others like it that have calling, like skype, generally KNOW your trying to not use talk time so they know to do it via internet/3g/4g/wifi
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I just confirmed it on my phone. If you shutdown the radio but leave wifi on, GV will complain about being unable to place the call because of airplane mode. I'm using the network app to disable only the CDMA radio, all others (BT, WiMAX and Wifi) are enabled.
So yes, you MUST use a SIP to be able to use GV without the CDMA radio attempting to make a regular call.
I just remembered the name of the SIP app: SIPdroid
Thanks to fenixjn and the others in this thread. I got it going on my EVO 4g.
If u haven't figured out a way to set it up. use the internet. When it ask for a phone number use a landline number. After that u can use the google voice app like u wanted to. Hope that helps. After the activation call just unforward to that number and forward calls to gtalk or g chat. I forget exactly what the option is. I use groove IP to make and receive calls. I had sip Droid set up but it stopped working for me a few months ago. The money for groove IP is worth it. The calls are great quality. It has dropped calls on my a few times. But I can't complain for the ease of use and the low price.
Now I'm even more confused. I already set up the Google voice app and grooveIp and have been making and receiving calls just fine. My issue is having a number I can use to complete the Google voice app on my phone. The app wants to send me a confirmation text and since I have no service it cant. So now my question is how do I use SIPDroid to do that??
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By the way if I wasn't clear - I'm only trying to get google voice fully on the phone so i can text over wifi too. If there's an easier way I'm all ears.
I used my home phone number to set up google voice(it is a vonage number now that I ported to them from my old land line company). I first set up the google voice on my computers and it went smoothly. I then took my EVO 4g (which does not have service) and connectected by wifi to the market and downloaded voice, it kept prompting me for a cell number and I didnt enter one but it did load google voice onto my phone. I then downloaded Sipdroid and used my Google Voice number and it handled everything. I can send and receieve text and can send and recieve calls. A friend did try to send me two picture files via the text messaging that would not come thru. I don't know if there are limitations on what you can send but the normal text messages come thru fine. The phone service works ok but the quality leaves something to be desired. I havent started trying to tweek that yet.
Thanks, I'll try it right now...
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It can be done. I did it to mine. i cant remeber how cause its been a long time. Bit i thought all i did was add another number to gvoice on the computer. Then when it asked for comfermation it made a phone call to the number i had set up to forward it to. U may have to set up another gmail account just so u can get another gvoice number. Then use a number u can receive calls to ass the primary number. I'm gonna see if I can find the link I found the info for and post it for u. Don't be discouraged. It took me a while to figure out how to do it.
Thanks for all your help so far, I haven't got it working yet but I'm closer than I was
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Alright I finally got it. It was actually pretty simple, I downloaded the text plus app to get a free number and used that to complete Google voice and voila.
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Hi- could you explain in a bit more detail how you got GV to use your Text+ to complete the GV registration? I am trying to do the same exact thing you did, but cannot get GV to "see" my Text+ number. Thanks for any help you can offer...
[added note] just realized my sig line is waaay out of date...sorry!
It's been awhile and I promptly forgot everything but here's what I remember - Text plus lets you send and receive texts for free and lets you receive voice calls for free. As far as I recall GV needs to send you a text? or possibly a voice message. I think I just entered my Text + number as the cell # in GV and it all worked out