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Currently on the Droid X you can only use wireless tether to create an ad-hoc network. I've seen on the Incredible where you can use a modified version of wireless tether that allows you to use it to create an access point instead of ad-hoc. Thing is, you have to install a modified kernel on the DInc for it to work and we can't do that (yet) on the DX.
Now, I'm thinking that the functionality is already built into the kernel on the DX, right? I mean, even on 2.1 it had to be for the Verizon's Mobile Hotspot to work and Android 2.2 has it built into the stock kernel already unless Moto removed it for their 2.2. build.
So, anyone think there is a way we can get access point functionality with out current kernel. 2.1 or 2.2?
mrnosox said:
Currently on the Droid X you can only use wireless tether to create an ad-hoc network. I've seen on the Incredible where you can use a modified version of wireless tether that allows you to use it to create an access point instead of ad-hoc. Thing is, you have to install a modified kernel on the DInc for it to work and we can't do that (yet) on the DX.
Now, I'm thinking that the functionality is already built into the kernel on the DX, right? I mean, even on 2.1 it had to be for the Verizon's Mobile Hotspot to work and Android 2.2 has it built into the stock kernel already unless Moto removed it for their 2.2. build.
So, anyone think there is a way we can get access point functionality with out current kernel. 2.1 or 2.2?
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If you are rooted, you can download wireless tether from the market and it will make your phone a wifi hotspot.
Steeleio said:
If you are rooted, you can download wireless tether from the market and it will make your phone a wifi hotspot.
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he already knows that... >.< and the wireless tethering app is ad-hoc, not a access point which is what he is looking for.
dr154 said:
he already knows that... >.< and the wireless tethering app is ad-hoc, not a access point which is what he is looking for.
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Correct, I am looking for an access point hot spot method, not ad-hoc. Thanks anyway!
Try barnacle tether it does what you want
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switchednick said:
Try barnacle tether it does what you want
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Incorrect. Barnacle will only do ad-hoc networks as well.
So by now isn't there any way to do that right?...i would pay the 20 $ to Verizon for hotspot but wtf is only 2gb shiiiiittttt.....
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denpad2010 said:
So by now isn't there any way to do that right?...i would pay the 20 $ to Verizon for hotspot but wtf is only 2gb shiiiiittttt.....
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Judging by the development page of Android-Wifi-Tether, the issue is known, however, it is considered a low priority at this point. Apparently some people were having trouble even getting Adhoc mode to work with the Droid X, this issue, considered medium priority, was resolved on September 5th, 2010. The infrastructure mode issue is still known, but little effort is being placed in it as of right now from what I can tell.
Although the Droid X does support infrastructure mode, it is a new wifi chip, Android-Wifi-Tether infrastructure mode is based off having the Broadcom bcm4329-chipset (master mode). However, the droid X uses a texas-instruments chip which has yet to go through much testing by the developers of Android-Wifi-Tether. As they are European based, they do not currently have access to a Droid X for testing.
The way our Infrastructure mode works is through a new kernel module, and several drivers, found in the following: /system/etc/wifi : tiwlan_ap.ini, fw_tiwlan_ap.bin and hostapd.conf.templet which are all new to the Droid X as well as the following Kernel Module: tiap_drv.ko
While it is possible to get infrastructure mode working on the Droid X, it will not be through the traditional methods Android-Wifi-Tether uses, as such it is not as simple as some are led to believe, it will take a bit of research and work on their, or the communities, part.
CaptainTaco said:
Judging by the development page of Android-Wifi-Tether, the issue is known, however, it is considered a low priority at this point. Apparently some people were having trouble even getting Adhoc mode to work with the Droid X, this issue, considered medium priority, was resolved on September 5th, 2010. The infrastructure mode issue is still known, but little effort is being placed in it as of right now from what I can tell.
Although the Droid X does support infrastructure mode, it is a new wifi chip, Android-Wifi-Tether infrastructure mode is based off having the Broadcom bcm4329-chipset (master mode). However, the droid X uses a texas-instruments chip which has yet to go through much testing by the developers of Android-Wifi-Tether. As they are European based, they do not currently have access to a Droid X for testing.
The way our Infrastructure mode works is through a new kernel module, and several drivers, found in the following: /system/etc/wifi : tiwlan_ap.ini, fw_tiwlan_ap.bin and hostapd.conf.templet which are all new to the Droid X as well as the following Kernel Module: tiap_drv.ko
While it is possible to get infrastructure mode working on the Droid X, it will not be through the traditional methods Android-Wifi-Tether uses, as such it is not as simple as some are led to believe, it will take a bit of research and work on their, or the communities, part.
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Very informative answer CaptainTaco. Thank you very much!
I have a WAP running on my X. I've had 3 laptops connected to it at once. If this is what you are looking for, PM me and I'll send you the .apk and details on how to set it up.
LexusBrian400 said:
I have a WAP running on my X. I've had 3 laptops connected to it at once. If this is what you are looking for, PM me and I'll send you the .apk and details on how to set it up.
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Sent you my email. Can't tell if it went though because it's showing nothing sent in my sentbox.
LexusBrian400 said:
I have a WAP running on my X. I've had 3 laptops connected to it at once. If this is what you are looking for, PM me and I'll send you the .apk and details on how to set it up.
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Why not just make a new thread with this APK? It's obviously in demand.
sounds pretty interesting to me. would love to learn more about this .apk
mrnosox said:
Currently on the Droid X you can only use wireless tether to create an ad-hoc network. I've seen on the Incredible where you can use a modified version of wireless tether that allows you to use it to create an access point instead of ad-hoc. Thing is, you have to install a modified kernel on the DInc for it to work and we can't do that (yet) on the DX.
Now, I'm thinking that the functionality is already built into the kernel on the DX, right? I mean, even on 2.1 it had to be for the Verizon's Mobile Hotspot to work and Android 2.2 has it built into the stock kernel already unless Moto removed it for their 2.2. build.
So, anyone think there is a way we can get access point functionality with out current kernel. 2.1 or 2.2?
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here it is.. sorry i dont have time to do the settings, i'm sure you can figure them out.
Mess around with encryption on/off and which channel the SSID broadcasts on.
I've had 3 different computers hooked up at one time, all working flawless.
Good luck guys, i'll be back tomorrow afternoon to help out.
LexusBrian400 said:
here it is.. sorry i dont have time to do the settings, i'm sure you can figure them out.
Mess around with encryption on/off and which channel the SSID broadcasts on.
I've had 3 different computers hooked up at one time, all working flawless.
Good luck guys, i'll be back tomorrow afternoon to help out.
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Thanks LexusBrain. Can't wait for you to get back to help on this one.
Question, is this a modified version of the app? I already have 2.0.5-pre9 installed and this is 2.0.5-pre7 so I didn't know if this was a special version with different settings that I need to install over the one I have installed.
Looks to be the same. Still Ad-hoc.
Gimpeh said:
Looks to be the same. Still Ad-hoc.
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I'm sorry, I dont know what else you want. Its wireless tethering, and it works. Maybe I'm missing exactly what it is that you want to do.
LexusBrian400 said:
I'm sorry, I dont know what else you want. Its wireless tethering, and it works. Maybe I'm missing exactly what it is that you want to do.
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Ad-Hoc is not compatible with all wireless devices. Example; other android devices can't connect to a ad-hoc network. What a majority of those in this thread want is Wifi Tethering that supports infrastructure mode.
Gimpeh said:
Ad-Hoc is not compatible with all wireless devices. Example; other android devices can't connect to a ad-hoc network. What a majority of those in this thread want is Wifi Tethering that supports infrastructure mode.
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I see.. My bad. I misunderstood. At least now I have something new to try out but probably not possible without a kernel mod. Or finding a way around the native app. hmm...
maybe i am not using the search tool properly nor posting this in app section.
But anyone know any way to do so?
my xperia x10 is half dead already i would like to 3g tether to tablet for 3g uses.
I search the market for app, none of them seem to support it. Is there another method? I am not too great with this sort of things
would like a detail guide or explanation.
thank you.
p.s: also i would like to ask, is it possible to use rocket mobile 3g fingers from rogers (i live in canada) to obtain 3g? sorry i am not technical so no idea how these things goes.
I don't know anything about rocket mobile, but I just downloaded Quick Wifi Hotspot from the market yesterday and it worked fine while at the restaurant. I left the network open and named it my name and connected via the tablet with no issues. It's also free and that is helpful Hopefully it's compatible with whichever rom/android version you are using. I have an HD2 with an Android 2.3 ROM based on C7 (I think that's all the requisite info).
I have cheap zip cricket cell phone. I do love crickets service here in my area.thou some say its lame elsewhere.
Anyway I rooted my cell installed wireless tether.and when I turn it on my tablet or my notebook will connect automatically and its great for most things even tried Netflix yesterday. Pared with crickets unlimited plan for 50.00 a month.
Set wireless tether to Mac address security lots of people will try to connect.to use your internet.some just do it automatic ..
thank you, the reason i posted this is because my x10 still run on grandpa software (at least not 1.6) android 2.1.
Acer have an instruction on how to enable portable wi-fi option on phone and ad-hoc but 2.1 doesn't have that option yet.
since my phone is already half dead (thank to SE's crappy product), i don't know if i can root it and install custom rom before it brick or dead completely.
i will check out that method thanks.
Hey all,
Rooted Droid X running 4.5.602.MB810.Verizon.en.US, 2.3.3, baseband BP_C_01.09.13P. I can install a myriad of wireless tether programs, however every single time I open one, while it does gain root access, the ROMs native wireless tether app is opened as well. Then when I connect with a laptop my browser is redirected to the VZW pay for this option page. Any workarounds, I've searched the forum and I'm not seeing this issue come up.
Thanks.
Wireless tethering with anything but Verizon's app is blocked on Gingerbread roms.
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Crud, I thought someone had found a workaround.
There is a patch, but as long as your are stock (or really on any rom that is not 2-init) there is data tracking software built in. Many roms try to remove it, but there is a strong chance some elements are left behind. If you want to tether, go with cm7 or miui to be safe.
Dispatched at the Speed of Light from my XOOM
Hmm, I'm using SHADO_X6_2.3.34_SYSTEM-ONLY.sbf, so I assume that's stock. Dang it, I flashed all this crud just to root so I could get wireless tethering back, and now it still doesn't work, frustrating!
How much tethering are you planning on doing? Because Im also on stock GB, and I use Wugfresh tether patch. I rarely use Tethering and only do it for short periods of time. Verizon looks for the big users, and I heard there was a soft cap on data at about 5GB. So I believe if you're only a moderate to light user, you should be alright.
I researched a lot in google and it seems that there's a certain hack can do this, but I failed to find out the details. Does this tool exist? If yes, can anybody share its name? I don't mean to install a customized rom.
My verizon htc trophy is developer unlocked, btw.
Thanks.
Developer unlock MAY allow you to do an interop unlock which might let you install the policy.. but the default wireless driver isn't really comparable with tethering (at least in Mango 8107.. trust me, I tired to mod it to work).
If you already have the official Verizon 8107 release and drivers installed, I can tell you already that you are SOL with the policy unlocking methods.
I best way to do it is to install HSPL and flash a rom with fullunlock and a compatible wireless driver.
These roms aren't without their own drawbacks (ansars Tango build has a few weird things going on, but mostly okay, his Mango build is completely busted), but worth a shot.
Do you have true dev unlock, or just chevron unlock?
True dev unlock.
My OS Version is 7.10.8107.79. I didn't see any update newer than that on my phone. Am I OK for the policy unlocking method?
According to your other post, we still need to pay more for tethering (verizon), right? If this is the case, I'll have to give up. Android + T-Mobile should make things easier.
Really?
demf said:
True dev unlock.
My OS Version is 7.10.8107.79. I didn't see any update newer than that on my phone. Am I OK for the policy unlocking method?
According to your other post, we still need to pay more for tethering (verizon), right? If this is the case, I'll have to give up. Android + T-Mobile should make things easier.
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Really? So if you can't illegally tether, you give up on WP7?
That is logical, where again?
Verizon sucks, with you there. However if you can't afford a MiFi, Tmobile would be your best option with the HTC Radar.
WP7 + Tethering + TMobile = What you want.
There are things about WP7 that are not as easy to mangle as Android, but this is where people need to stop for a moment and realize these 'restrictions' are the reason WP7 is fast and uber secure, especially compared to Android.
Android's overall OS model makes Windows95 look secure and impressive.
Just running an App update on Android, with an official Google App, there are so many ways to slip malware and piggy back into the device it is amazing more people don't realize their phone is compromised. (A botted switch/router watching for update bytes that is sitting between you and the Google Market is all that is needed to slap some malware into the package and the device is compromised.) - And that is one simple example out of about 20 my engineers have reproduced.
Run from Android, even if it is to an meh iPhone; however, I suggest you stick with WP7 and hold on for the ride. This year will be like 1990 when everyone looks back at when they noticed Win3.0 and how it changed things for the better.
PS So you paid for your Developer Unlock capability of WP7, but can't afford a Mifi/Hotspot?
I thought I could legally tether with T-Mobile without a tethering plan. After some research I knew that I couldn't. Anyway, rumors said if you don't do it too much you are OK. This should be my case. I rarely need tethering, but just want to have the ability when tethering is needed.
Dev unlock is $99 only, but for tethering plan you have to pay it every month.
You seem to be a big fan of WP7, but I have to say WP7 won't have much chance in the middle of Android and iPhone. If you prefer security to functionality I suggest you go to DOS where TCP/IP was not supported internally.
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Really? So if you can't illegally tether, you give up on WP7?
That is logical, where again?
Verizon sucks, with you there. However if you can't afford a MiFi, Tmobile would be your best option with the HTC Radar.
WP7 + Tethering + TMobile = What you want.
There are things about WP7 that are not as easy to mangle as Android, but this is where people need to stop for a moment and realize these 'restrictions' are the reason WP7 is fast and uber secure, especially compared to Android.
Android's overall OS model makes Windows95 look secure and impressive.
Just running an App update on Android, with an official Google App, there are so many ways to slip malware and piggy back into the device it is amazing more people don't realize their phone is compromised. (A botted switch/router watching for update bytes that is sitting between you and the Google Market is all that is needed to slap some malware into the package and the device is compromised.) - And that is one simple example out of about 20 my engineers have reproduced.
Run from Android, even if it is to an meh iPhone; however, I suggest you stick with WP7 and hold on for the ride. This year will be like 1990 when everyone looks back at when they noticed Win3.0 and how it changed things for the better.
PS So you paid for your Developer Unlock capability of WP7, but can't afford a Mifi/Hotspot?
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I'd pay for tethering if Verizon offered it on the Trophy, just because its my only net option right now (dailup doesn't count!). Since they don't offer a tethering plan, and installing HSPL and a custom rom will give you tethering.. why not do that instead?
I made a mistake in my one post though, I meant to say 8107 official rom (not 8807...). You must have the Mango v1 rom to be able to perform interop unlock... even then.. it prob won't work with just the policy insert... if your going to go threw the trouble of using an older stock rom, you might as well just do HSPL and test out ansars Tango rom, which will have all the features you're looking for.
So what I am saying is... Verizon doesn't offer an official tethering package like they do for other tethering phones, but you can add the tethering feature with a custom rom. I have been using tethering, and they have yet to try and charge me more (since they probably aren't looking for it on a phone that shouldn't support it). Then again, I always update my DUN id in settings to remove the dun part of the id (it should be something like dun, I make it match my normal data id).. I've done this since 2006 to use tethering on my Verizon Samsung A930.
If Verizon wants me to pay extra for internet, they can get off their lazy asses and run DSL out to my house, then I'll pay for it. I'll pay for it on my Trophy if they want to officially support the tethering feature in WP7 or ask me too. They have yet to ask me to pay extra for it.
Why not get a 4g phone and get free hotspot without breaking tos.
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Look up 16407 on Verizon's coverage map. We were in the FINAL phase of the roll out for 3G, I doubt 4G will be any different. I'll wait a few years when LTE is done rolling out then think about it.
how do you know your phone is a "true dev unlock"?
Is there a way to confirm this?
True Dev unlock is simple, you bought an account from Microsoft, and used their official software to perform the unlock to let you side load apps. With the legit Chevron lock being discounted, its the only way we know of now.
Levels of unlock (as far as I understand them)
From lowest to highest levels:
Dev unlock (Chevron, official Microsoft)
Interop unlock (modding dev settings to sideload an unlimited number of apps)
Root/policy unlock (You get this by installing WP7 Root Tools on a stock rom)
Full unlock (Flash an unlocked rom).
The official WP7 Root Tools website has a great writeup on what all the different unlocks do.
As far as manually doing interop unlock on the Verizon Trophy, to do it, you need to be running the Mango v1 rom ("RUU_Spark_W_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.01.605.04_2K_new_partition_RELEASE" or the 2.01.605.04 drivers). If you have newer drivers installed then that such as the newest 2.04.605.04, or the 2.01.605.10 drivers, using the older methods to perform interop unlock won't work.
I think there might be an newer method, but I never got it working in my test.
As far as applying the tethering policies and registry settings, the only way to really do it is to use the Mango v1 rom as your base, then apply registry changes settings after interop unlock with a registry editor. IF you use Zune update and install newer drivers, those changes are gone, and the Mango v3 drivers (2.04.605.04 that come with the official driver) totally do not work using this method.
I am exploring the option of using a driver from the HTC Titian, but the long way of putting that onto a stock rom would require somehow getting Yuki certificate installed on a stock phone (might be possible now or soon?), then creating a custom.cab to replace the wireless driver. That's the path I'd love to see.
I have not found a nice list of the registry changes required on the VZW Trophy to even try to get ICS working. Do you have these handy?
I have seen reg edits for other phones and tried one XAP that supposedly would do the changes for "any" device (although it was only tested on Samsung) and it did not work. All I get is the connection not available/settings are wrong error. Thanks
P.S. I am on Tango now and tried with the v1 HTC drivers and v2; no difference.
I actually work for Spectrum and have been doing their mobile field trial for awhile, basically its an MVNO with Verizon ( same as xfinity)
I'd like to somehow maintain my original ROM since it includes some Charter/Spectrum specific functions, but also get root. Is this possible currently?
Truth be told I really just want to edit my BUILD.PROP but can't get my device to show as authorized in ADB when booted into recovery. So if you have a way around that I don't need root then.
Did you ever get your question answered? I was debating signing up with spectrum mobile and was wondering if I could root to get around the 5GB hotspot limit.