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Just a quickie...haha My wifes ipad will run iphone apps, it just blows them up and it looks like a$$. Does anyone with an android tab know how this works with android apps? Are all apps pretty much for all android devices?
Google has taken into account a "Fragmentation API" this will ensure that all apps off your phone will work and look good on your xoom.
kenhunt said:
Google has taken into account a "Fragmentation API" this will ensure that all apps off your phone will work and look good on your xoom.
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But, this is assuming the app has been coded using the new SDK. It does not automatically take in to account apps that have been coded for Froyo or before.
My guess is that it will be the same as the iPad. Until the app is made specifically for large screen devices, it will be like blowing up a low resolution image.
This is kind of stupid. there should be an option to resize it or just center it. I got a g tablet and it is horrible that some apps just get to the left corner but the controlls get where ever they want. Some apps are unusable with this kind of things. I bet that some apps for froyo will do the same thing on the xoom if the same thing happens and it get resized by default.
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This is kind of stupid. there should be an option to resize it or just center it. I got a g tablet and it is horrible that some apps just get to the left corner but the controlls get where ever they want. Some apps are unusable with this kind of things. I bet that some apps for froyo will do the same thing on the xoom if the same thing happens and it get resized by default.
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On the ipad you have iphone size which is centered or 2x...2x looks like a$$ and I didn't buy a 10 in screen to look at a cell phone sized app. Thanks for all the replies.
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yep, it would look like a$$, but it is much better to have a centered app than an unusable app. XD
i will add this question to "for those on the borderline, what do you want to know" thread
Android scales apps. So for something like a music player it will probably look like ass. For a game it will scale very well and should look relatively OK until they update the graphics to fit the resolution the Xoom is hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMJpkQ2flss
That should show you approximately what will happen.
muyoso said:
Android scales apps. So for something like a music player it will probably look like ass. For a game it will scale very well and should look relatively OK until they update the graphics to fit the resolution the Xoom is hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMJpkQ2flss
That should show you approximately what will happen.
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This is 100% what i wanted to see thank you.
muyoso said:
Android scales apps. So for something like a music player it will probably look like ass. For a game it will scale very well and should look relatively OK until they update the graphics to fit the resolution the Xoom is hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMJpkQ2flss
That should show you approximately what will happen.
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Yep some of them do, but they are usually the high quality apps like angry birds and tank hero. Some other´s, many, just get deconfigured in the screen or just force close.
Hope honeycombs fix this in an inteligent way. I agree that games might not be playable, but many apps that can be just not resized and used well enough.
Cheers for honeycomb.
Hoping once its hacked up, i can run lcd density on it also
App developers are already updating their apps to Xoom resolution, like SpeedX.
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The apps look fine. The only thing that would look like ass is really low quality, low resolution images. The phone scales properly made elements so apps coded right will scale. They might not utilize the space properly.. but they wont look bad. I used ES File Explorer and it scaled really well.. and a comic reading app was perfect.
So all the pictures show the tablet running a phone interface and not what a tablet interface. Did Google give the Nexus 7 a phone interface instead of a tablet one or is it completely gone from 4.1?
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dominican2589 said:
So all the pictures show the tablet running a phone interface and not what a tablet interface. Did Google give the Nexus 7 a phone interface instead of a tablet one or is it completely gone from 4.1?
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I'm sure they didn't remove the interface entirely and the launcher displayed on the Nexus 7 isn't exactly the same as the phone interface (six permanent icons instead of four), but I'd certainly like to know if it would be possible to change interfaces easily.
During the demo, tablet versions of apps were displayed.
So basically in JB it seems that there are 3 different interfaces.
Phone: Galaxy Nexus JB/ICS setup. all phone setup
7 inch: phone style launcher/notification bar, but tablet mode for apps (gmail, G+ was shown in tablet mode)
10 inch: full tablet UI.
Honestly, it makes sense, the tablet UI does NOT work well in portrait, but the phone UI does.
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During the demo, tablet versions of apps were displayed.
So basically in JB it seems that there are 3 different interfaces.
Phone: Galaxy Nexus JB/ICS setup. all phone setup
7 inch: phone style launcher/notification bar, but tablet mode for apps (gmail, G+ was shown in tablet mode)
10 inch: full tablet UI.
Honestly, it makes sense, the tablet UI does NOT work well in portrait, but the phone UI does.
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Yeah but the phone UI looks like crap in landscape which is how I will be using it 99% of the time.
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It is good news to know that tablet apps are used. I personally am not too concerned about the launcher since I will most likely change it anyway
You should be able to easily change this with minor tweaks.
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I am not sure about that, I remember the music app, youtube app were opened at phone version in the demo.
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I am not sure about that, I remember the music app, youtube app were opened at phone version in the demo.
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true. the choice if display is done through the app.
The developer can tell it to use the tablet mode on 10", phone or tablet mode on 7" and phone mode on below 7"
many tablet apps are not optimized for a 7" display, such as youtube, so they're going to default to the phone version.
but gmail for example, loads the tablet version of the app.
No.
7" tablets just look better in portrait.
Tablet mode is designed for landscape and Gogle have saod this tab is designed for portrait use minus films and games.
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I'm hearing a lot of people say that it's because portrait mode is just better for a 7 inch device. Personally I don't think that answer suits everyone. I'd rather not conform to the ideals of others, everyone has their preference and opinions. Here is to hoping custom roms will give us a choice in the matter.
I'm hoping for a custom rom that allows per-app DPI similar to the one I'm running on my GNote.
I run in tablet mode but the rom allows different DPI settings for different apps, allowing those that need the phone UI to still look the way they should.
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Changing the pixel density will automaticly put the device in full tablet mode. Detailed further here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749501
New to the site, but just purchased a Nexus 7 to go with my GNex. I am curious to how the existing apps will play with the new 7. Since the resolution is pretty close, will most if not all apps that are compatible with the GNex be available for the Nexus 7? Or, since this is a new OS, do the developers need to tweak the apps to play nice with the new tablet?
Thanks! Cant wait to get the 7.
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New to the site, but just purchased a Nexus 7 to go with my GNex. I am curious to how the existing apps will play with the new 7. Since the resolution is pretty close, will most if not all apps that are compatible with the GNex be available for the Nexus 7? Or, since this is a new OS, do the developers need to tweak the apps to play nice with the new tablet?
Thanks! Cant wait to get the 7.
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All apps will run just fine, they will only need tweaking if they want to take advantage of new JB features. They might also need to be tweaked to take advantage of the screen size but either way they will work just might look a bit odd
I had a question regarding this. Many pointed out that the Nexus 7 opts for a phone based UI rather than the tablet UI we've seen sported on other Honeycomb or ICS tablets.
Seeing as how there are some apps specific to phone and specific to tablets, which apps will work with this? Will the "HD" tablet apps work with this?
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I had a question regarding this. Many pointed out that the Nexus 7 opts for a phone based UI rather than the tablet UI we've seen sported on other Honeycomb or ICS tablets.
Seeing as how there are some apps specific to phone and specific to tablets, which apps will work with this? Will the "HD" tablet apps work with this?
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Most should do yes, how android works out which UI to show or which apps the device supports comes down to its dpi which I believe for the nexus is a 'tablet' dpi, there for it should display tablet versions of the apps (it would seem pointless for them to release a tablet that only supported phone apps).
Also the UI is not strictly the Phone UI as there are 6 buttons along the bottom of the launcher instead of the 4 normally, its more of a hybrid layout
it uses a new small tablet UI that uses the tablet versions of apps (if they work for displays lower than 10") but the phone version of the system.
Interesting! Thank you for the replies. I was actually hoping for a tablet ui style throughout (like that of Honeycomb), I'm guessing this problem will be solved with custom roms? I'd like to be reassured before jumping on board.
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
Other than face unlock, for which I have absolutely no use for, whats missing?
+ Beats HC and the former ICS/JB custom ROMS by a mile.
+ Runs great, especially the browser.
+ Looks good, but I like stock JB better, nothing to bad though.
too big font, too bright color, ugly locking screen, lost about 200MB RAM.
All other things are great.
Its touchwiz again. I think it looks horrible and i hope cm10 will get the camera drivers soon.
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As far as performance is concerned it is great, a big step forward compared to previous ROMs or other custom firmware. Unfortunately, it is bloated with Touchwiz apps which are not necessary since there are Google equivalent apps that do the job perfectly well.
However, the biggest issue for me is the fact that it has no consistent user interface, a problem common to all non-stock Android versions. The Samsung apps have their own Touchwiz user interface while all other apps use the standard ICS user interface elements and colours. Some system elements like the Settings panel and various pop up windows utilise the Touchwiz graphical elements while others the standard ICS elements. Even the arrows that allow the user to select a piece of text look completely different depending on whether one is running a Samsung app or a standard Android one!
In my opinion, it is important for an OS which depends heavily on the user interface, like tablet and phone OSes, to have a common and standard look and feel not only for cosmetic purposes but also to ensure that the users are not confused and all apps look consistent with a specific design philosophy so that users can easily locate menus and other elements. This is the biggest failure of Touchwiz and as a result the overall look and feel of this firmware is strange with bright and colourful user interface elements when Touchwiz is used and dark black and blue elements when running standard Android apps.
Notice here that I am not judging the quality of Touchwiz vs standard ICS and some people prefer the one instead of the other. I am saying that whatever the choice of user inteface it has to be consistent throughout the system and third-party apps. Personally, I prefer the standard ICS user inteface but this is not the point of my argument.
I hope that third-party Android developers will use the updated libraries of this firmware as well as the camera drivers to produce a fully functioning standard ICS or Jelly Bean ROM through projects like CM9/CM10 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I am one of those who actually MUCH prefer Touchwiz and the other Samsung apps, added settings and personalizations (for example the overlay mini-apps and the now configurable screenshot button are extremely handy and I hate the "2-steps" notification bar in non-TW ROMs) so for me this ROM is GREAT.
I have never been interested in the least in face-unlock, I have always used the pattern lockscreen.
What I would have liked to see in this ROM are the SIM application toolkit, the numbers top row in the keyboard (like in all the recent Samsung keyboards) and the battery percentage.
P.S. that said, if the G.Tab 10.1 isn't going to get an official JB update from Samsung I am sure that at some point, once it matures, I will go back to CM10...
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I'm as happy as a pig in ****, now I might use it for more than a glorified Netflix machine.
That was the thing with the custom ICS/JB roms is that they were so unstable and brought literally nothing to the table besides being someone else's opinion on what they thought I wanted.
I want stability and I want good, official looking apps. Not File Manager HD with its advertising aids and not some bright ass boot animation that blinds me every time I have to reboot because it froze overnight.
But I digress.
I think this release by Samsung is quite amazing, and it will hold me off long enough till I decide to buy a newer model Galaxy Tab.
At the rate Samsung is going they are going to be my new favorite company. Not just because of this update, for numerous other dealings as well.
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I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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I had that same problem yesterday, no matter which keyboard I tried, I'll probably just use another terminal app.
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The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
I also like it and I guess touchwiz is inevitable. Desktop customization has been upgraded too which is very useful.
If something else could be asked is a tad more smoothness when switching desktops and probably one last push update to jelly bean for increased smoothness.
We'll see in the coming days with extended use. For.me :good:
Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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the ugliness of the Samsung 4.0.4 really disturbs me...
Was Samsung smoking pot in the many months spent on making it on to 10.1?
peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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It doesn't work for me too. I can enter numbers and other symbols, but I cannot enter any letters.
Edit: It turned out, that using Swype instead of Samsung keyboard, works great in the Terminal Emulator.
new ics samsung
iI like it, very stable and with best email stock client that I never see.
I really am digging it. My only complaint so far is how close the notification icons are to each other.
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Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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same problem here ...
The only thing that i complain in this new build, is there are some games that aren't working. For example Mass Effect (GooglePlay obviously) it works on CM9, however doesn't on the Samsung rom (both 4.04).
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same problem here ...
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no problems whatsoever here and what "problems" are you two talking about exactly?
P.S. and I watch a lot of Youtube videos on the tab
daniel_fm said:
The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
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Yes!!! This was probably the first thing I checked once the install had finished. I love Swype but it was pretty much unusable in stock HC on the tab. No more automatic deleting of the last two characters when typing a search into the browser!!!
From my perspective it's a it early to give an opinion but it's looking good so far although my quadrant score has taken a nosedive (yes, I know that doesn't mean anytihgn in reality)
Lagging playback on some HD videos.
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Just a point of info....almost every Android launcher I've downloaded from 1Mobile.com seems to work, to some degree, on the HDX. Particularly promising is VIRE Launcher, which in addition to looking and working like other standard launchers, displays the 4 or 5 wallpapers that it comes with, as well as a clock widget that comes standard with the launcher.
I also noticed that, unlike with the HD, you can set the Android launcher as the default launcher when you press the home button (On the 2012 models, if you did find a working launcher, you could only activate it by an icon, not the home button).
I just tried out the Trebuchet launcher from Hashcode's cm10.1 tate file and it works great on my HDX 8.9" so far. Setting it always as the home button makes it the default launcher also!
Edit: Changing some of the setting is causing Trebuchet to crash.
Using 1 mobile market I download apex,nova,adw,buzz,go,etc
Buzz allows the wallpapers that come with the themes you download for it. However most themes use a lot of widgets which do not work.
Go launcher allows you to change the wallpaper only for the app drawer. Also when I have it in portrait mode the launcher does not work unless I have auto rotate off. Go launcher also works with gowidgets.
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Using 1 mobile market I download apex,nova,adw,buzz,go,etc
Buzz allows the wallpapers that come with the themes you download for it. However most themes use a lot of widgets which do not work.
Go launcher allows you to change the wallpaper only for the app drawer. Also when I have it in portrait mode the launcher does not work unless I have auto rotate off. Go launcher also works with gowidgets.
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That's why I personally recommend Vire, which has 4 or 5 wallpapers built in that you can use, plus two different clock widgets. There's also Espier, which, since it's modeled after iOS, is designed to look good without widgets on the screen.
richbrown68 said:
That's why I personally recommend Vire, which has 4 or 5 wallpapers built in that you can use, plus two different clock widgets. There's also Espier, which, since it's modeled after iOS, is designed to look good without widgets on the screen.
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I don't like the lack of features in the free version and the icons.
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bdtao said:
I don't like the lack of features in the free version and the icons.
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I know this probably won't make me a lot of friends here, but honestly, I prefer the HDX stock interface to any Android launcher that I might replace it with.
Nova Launcher 2.3b3
I would like to confirm that Nova Launcher 2.3 beta 3 works perfectly on my 8.9 HDX WiFi, replacing stock launcher.
There is a bug though - long tap on anything (i.e. to add/move/remove widget or app) in landscape mode causes screen rotation and nothing else. Switch to portrait, do what you need and turn back to landscape. Other than that - I'm a happy camper with Nova
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Yeah i test nova launcher and it s working very well ! Only wallpaper and widget not working ! When you long tape on anything, just block the rotation and all is good! Y ou can also put the old Amazon launcher to use it when y ou want !
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I know this probably won't make me a lot of friends here, but honestly, I prefer the HDX stock interface to any Android launcher that I might replace it with.
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I agree that the stock interface is very nice. I just wish there was a way to install custom icons. Sideloading apps leads to some low resolution icons on the carousel. Can't wait for this device to get rooted.
I'm curious, I know that most of the Google apps can be side loaded, except for the play store, of course, so would the "Google Experience" launcher, the one from the Nexus 5 work? It's worked so far on all devices on 4.2 and up for me.
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I'm curious, I know that most of the Google apps can be side loaded, except for the play store, of course, so would the "Google Experience" launcher, the one from the Nexus 5 work? It's worked so far on all devices on 4.2 and up for me.
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I haven't had much luck sideloading GAPPS. I keep getting crashes with them installed, so I removed them.
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I haven't had much luck sideloading GAPPS. I keep getting crashes with them installed, so I removed them.
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There is a tutorial on the internet. I haven't tried it yet, I will be getting my kindle around December, to replace my rooted Nook HD. Is it better than the Nexus 7? I figure that a root method is inevitable, but is there a big performance difference between the S4 pro and the 800?
2390 said:
There is a tutorial on the internet. I haven't tried it yet, I will be getting my kindle around December, to replace my rooted Nook HD. Is it better than the Nexus 7? I figure that a root method is inevitable, but is there a big performance difference between the S4 pro and the 800?
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I followed the steps on the guide and it still caused crashes. S800 is MUCH faster than the S4 Pro. Especially when it comes to graphics. Adreno 330 crushes Adreno 320.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/18/qualcomm-snapdragon-800-mdp-benchmarks/#continued
2390 said:
I'm curious, I know that most of the Google apps can be side loaded, except for the play store, of course, so would the "Google Experience" launcher, the one from the Nexus 5 work? It's worked so far on all devices on 4.2 and up for me.
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It twerks but no wallpaper or widget mclovin. :good:
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I followed the steps on the guide and it still caused crashes. S800 is MUCH faster than the S4 Pro. Especially when it comes to graphics. Adreno 330 crushes Adreno 320.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/18/qualcomm-snapdragon-800-mdp-benchmarks/#continued
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Thanks. Now the only issue I have is the app selection. I know how to sideload most (free, of course, like Dark Meadow) apps, but my only issue is Google play license verification.
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It twerks but no wallpaper or widget mclovin. :good:
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It twerks? The tablet turns into Miley Cyrus? Maybe i don't want it after all...
2390 said:
Thanks. Now the only issue I have is the app selection. I know how to sideload most (free, of course, like Dark Meadow) apps, but my only issue is Google play license verification.
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It twerks? The tablet turns into Miley Cyrus? Maybe i don't want it after all...
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Yea. The big downside that's not addressed with sideloading is finding and updating apks for apps you've paid for on the Play store. 1 Mobile Market only has free apps. So things like icon packs/themes or apps that have license verification will not work.
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Yea. The big downside that's not addressed with sideloading is finding and updating apks for apps you've paid for on the Play store. 1 Mobile Market only has free apps. So things like icon packs/themes or apps that have license verification will not work.
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I figure that i may be able to extract apps that I bought from the Nook, remove verification with Lucky Patcher, then sideload them. Would that work? I mean, I already bought them, so it's not piracy or warez, but would creating a modded APK without verification from lucky patcher work on a non rooted device?
2390 said:
I figure that i may be able to extract apps that I bought from the Nook, remove verification with Lucky Patcher, then sideload them. Would that work? I mean, I already bought them, so it's not piracy or warez, but would creating a modded APK without verification from lucky patcher work on a non rooted device?
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Yes. That will probably work. I did resort to downloading patched apk's for apps I've purchased on the Play Store. Like Nova Prime.
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Yes. That will probably work. I did resort to downloading patched apk's for apps I've purchased on the Play Store. Like Nova Prime.
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App developers should have a way to synchronize apps from various stores to avoid these issues. I wonder if anybody has ever considered it.
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App developers should have a way to synchronize apps from various stores to avoid these issues. I wonder if anybody has ever considered it.
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I had considered making an App Store that has patched apps/apps not available in the google play store, but at the same time giving Android a good name by keeping out all pirated apps.
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