So i bought the ipad2 and returned after the obvious. After playing with the galaxy in the store, i decided it was way too laggy and that's when the transformer caught my eye. I hear that the lag has been fixed now I can't decide if that's the way i want to go. Anyone hear have experience with both and why did you go with the transformer besides the dock?
Thanks!
mj0528 said:
So i bought the ipad2 and returned after the obvious. After playing with the galaxy in the store, i decided it was way too laggy and that's when the transformer caught my eye. I hear that the lag has been fixed now I can't decide if that's the way i want to go. Anyone hear have experience with both and why did you go with the transformer besides the dock?
Thanks!
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If you do a few searches, you will find many discussions on this question.
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Yes, thanks! I am aware of the older posts but nothing recent with the newer firmware on either device so looking for someone with up-to-date knowledge.
I bought the TF because it's cheaper, it has a microSD option, it's easier to transfer files onto it from a PC/network, it has a better screen size for watching movies and reading comics.
The deciding factor for me was:
1. MicroSD card slot
2. $100 cheaper (Put it towards the dock)
Paid $100 less for a MicroSD card slot. That's a Win Win for me.
Its not quite as smooth and polished as the ipad 2 user experience, however the overall use of the device with the dock leaves the Ipad for dust.
Went transformer route instead of ipad as i have iPhone already and the openess of an android has always interested me. After rooting and putting custom roms and kernel on it never been happier. I went asus as ive never had a problem with the brand for computer parts. The dock was a huge bonus though. I keep having jealous ipad users trying out my transformer always puts a smile on my face when my android outperforms the ipad2 for what they try and do... also with the expansive storage options and dock inxlcreasing battery time its the perfect package for me
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I was in the same boat as you. All I kept reading was "What do you plan to use it for?" Well I want to use it for everything lol. My one freind recommended an Ipad, but I am used to the android platform so wanted to stay with that...
I was looking at the Xoom, and Galaxy 10.1 and then the Transformer Pad got thrown into the mix at the last minute. Slowly I started to see this can do everything! With the keyboard dock it has extra battery life, and usb connectors for all my thumbdrives. So I took the plunge with the Transformer tab.
After a week I couldn't be happier with my decision! The keyboard is priceless for me to type up and edit documents and it is a very solid build (at least for me). It is also a very solid build even connected to the dock. So far it fits everything i wanted it for. A fun piece of tech that I can be very productive with on the go.
iPad's are great tablets. I you can live in the Apple Ecosystem then they are the way to go and their built quality is very good.
If I did not need a keyboard and microD slot, the Galaxy tab would be my choice. The Transformer is not built as well as the Galaxy tab and is bigger and heavier, but IMHO is more versatile. I cannot imagine typing more than a paragraph or two on a tablet screen.
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mj0528 said:
So i bought the ipad2 and returned after the obvious. After playing with the galaxy in the store, i decided it was way too laggy and that's when the transformer caught my eye. I hear that the lag has been fixed now I can't decide if that's the way i want to go. Anyone hear have experience with both and why did you go with the transformer besides the dock?
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The lag issue is nothing to do with hardware, or even Android Honeycomb. It's a specific issue with the Webkit browser and the Asus Keyboard.
The best options is to just not use the built in browser, use Opera Mobile instead, it's WAY faster, with no lag and seems much more compatible with sites.
EDIT: It seems the latest release of HC3.2 that's on TW devices (and due on US and WW devices early next week) improves the stock browser and keyboard lag problem. Even so, I would still just use Opera...
I use dolphin browser and not finding any lag like stock browser
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Phone: iPhone 4 4.3.3 jailbroken
Tablet: Asus eee pad transformer ROM: Prime 1.7
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I use dolphin browser and not finding any lag like stock browser
Narcistic
Phone: iPhone 4 4.3.3 jailbroken
Tablet: Asus eee pad transformer ROM: Prime 1.7
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Which is weird, as Dolphin Browser IS the stock browser.... It's just a skin on the default Android browser.
Seems to work fine for me. Where normal stock browser is laggy
Narcistic
Phone: iPhone 4 4.3.3 jailbroken
Tablet: Asus eee pad transformer ROM: Prime 1.7
and Ive just sold transformer and bought ipad...
the reason - honeycomb is dead at the moment - there are like 5 native apps and 10 games - but a few of them are any intresting for more than 5 minutes, apps for ipad are just stunning and there are plenty of them
so far Transformer is just quite expensive mobile browser and most threads are about issues and cursors, battery and changing ROMs which give no difference - nothing about great things you can download and work or have fun with - so mj528-consdier reverting your decision again
I got the Asus as an on-the-spot decision... I was in an HH Gregg store where they had one on display with the keyboard dock... before this day I thought tablets were just a joke, and a waste of money. Boy was I wrong- this thing has replaced 90% of the tasks I would ordinarily use my laptop for and gets 5x the battery life.
That said, my motivations for the Asus were mainly because of the keyboard dock. I did not know at first that the dock had a battery in it, and I was still convinced.
Currently running Prime! Rom v1.7, Clemsyn-Blades v7b OC Kernel... runs like a dream at 1.6 GHz. There was alot of lag with the stock browser so I went with Dolphin for Pad beta, but encountered too many FC's and reboots, so now I'm working with Opera Mobile.
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and Ive just sold transformer and bought ipad...
the reason - honeycomb is dead at the moment - there are like 5 native apps and 10 games - but a few of them are any intresting for more than 5 minutes, apps for ipad are just stunning and there are plenty of them
so far Transformer is just quite expensive mobile browser and most threads are about issues and cursors, battery and changing ROMs which give no difference - nothing about great things you can download and work or have fun with - so mj528-consdier reverting your decision again
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What? .... If you like the iPad say you like the iPad. And most threads here are gonna be about bugs and customizations since this is a developers site. But saying the transformer is only good for browsing the internet and has 5 apps and 10 games is just untrue.
well - it always depends what you need it for - transformer is great if you are good with preinstalled apps and type a lot on keyboard
but it doesnt change the fact that nobody serious make apps for honeycomb, supporting hires etc
we just have accuweather, cnn and a couple more but not very astonishing to make other platforms jealous
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well - it always depends what you need it for - transformer is great if you are good with preinstalled apps and type a lot on keyboard
but it doesnt change the fact that nobody serious make apps for honeycomb, supporting hires etc
we just have accuweather, cnn and a couple more but not very astonishing to make other platforms jelous
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Quit trolling and go back to the walled garden then cos you just don't know what your talking about
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well - it always depends what you need it for - transformer is great if you are good with preinstalled apps and type a lot on keyboard
but it doesnt change the fact that nobody serious make apps for honeycomb, supporting hires etc
we just have accuweather, cnn and a couple more but not very astonishing to make other platforms jealous
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Thats why I went for the ipad in the first place - the apps -. However, I soon found out that while having a ton of apps could be useful, I only used some myself. The only games I used are the popular ones, which are all on android, and I used it even more for music, browsing, video, word processing, which all work better on the transformer (mkvs with diceplayer without the need of jailbreaking (which ended up crashing my ipad), flac support out of the box, great android browser with flash, and ofc the keyboard).
It just depends if you are gonna need a ton of apps to keep you busy. For me the internet is enough entertainment as is. And if not, ill throw an emulator on there and enjoy a ton of quality games you cant get on the ipad.
Sorry, even if Apple has so many apps, Cooki3s is right in that you'll probably only use a couple of them total. When I first got my TF, I just started downloading apps like crazy. But after a while, you stop using that crap and go for just certain types of apps (office, browser, netflix, mylibrary). Also, what I love about the TF is the keyboard (which, if you aren't considering, then you might be better off with the iPad).
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Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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Never had a Galaxy tab and would not want one (at least the current 7" model). I need more screen real estate. I already have an Android phone to cover the smaller screens. I don't like panning and zooming everything.
i love my xoom more and more everyday. I love the hardware accelleration in the browser but I don't like the lack of flash or. Lack of tablet optimized apps at the moment one thing to always remember is updates will always come sooner on a Google eperience device
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i love my xoom more and more everyday. I love the hardware accelleration in the browser but I don't like the lack of flash or. Lack of tablet optimized apps at the moment one thing to always remember is updates will always come sooner on a Google eperience device
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And we already know those are coming, just takes patience. Good point about the Google Experience. Hopefully we will see some updates in the coming weeks.
yes I've seen alot of demos for new apps so I know there on there way. Its weird though if you go to the market and click apps for tablets there's only 16. Half of which are games but if you go to games for tablets section there are more
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yes I've seen alot of demos for new apps so I know there on there way. Its weird though if you go to the market and click apps for tablets there's only 16. Half of which are games but if you go to games for tablets section there are more
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I had the Tab and it was a neutered Android phone. Xoom is the way to go...give it some time.
ur serously saying that u liked Android 2.2 on a tab more then honeycomb?
I had a Gtab originally. I got rid of it because the service through TMobile was spotty and the screen was too small. I however love my xoom. Especially since I found a good converter program for all my movies. Once we get SD card support ill be golden
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Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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As an owner of the Tab and the ipad.....I have realized that 10 inches is for home and vacation use. 7 inches is portable and can be taken anywhere. I have an Evo which I thought was huge before I got the Tab....now it seems tiny.
I might buy the wifi Xoom if it is priced right but I already know from experience with 10 inches that it will stay at home.
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I sold my Galaxy Tab yesterday, I'm so gald to get rid of it. It was incredibly slow even after overclocking and 2.2 was NOT meant for tablets.
2.2 may not be meant for tabs, but at least it runs flash and all the apps work without being buggy.
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2.2 may not be meant for tabs, but at least it runs flash and all the apps work without being buggy.
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Ran flash incredibly slowly, and the browser crashed all the time... sure.
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Ran flash incredibly slowly, and the browser crashed all the time... sure.
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really? I haven't had any problems with Flash or Dolphin. I watch more videos on the Tab than on my iPad (of course...lol).
Haven't rooted the Tab either (but rooted my Evo almost immediately after getting it)....haven't felt a need. The speed is fine for me.
Though I enjoyed the greater screen real estate (versus my EVO), the Galaxy Tab really is (as someone else already mentioned) just a neutered Android phone. After using the Xoom for several days, and using apps designed for Honeycomb, the difference is remarkable (just try Pulse, YouTube, CNN, or any of the games optimized for 3.0).
I do miss flash in my browser a bit, but that will come soon. I definitely do NOT miss the capacitive buttons on the bottom (a requirement for pre-Honeycomb devices)...it was terribly annoying to be enjoying a video or reading a document and having to be careful with the way I held so as not to accidentally press one of those buttons.
Also, the location of the stereo speakers on the Xoom is so much more sensible than the speaker on the G-Tab, where, once again, if you weren't holding it 'just-so' the sound would be muted by the palm of your hand.
**I have yet to significantly miss the SD card or flash. I do wish we could permanently set the UA string on the stock browser though, and I'm looking forward to the Citrix Receiver being updated for Honeycomb**
For me, flash, UA string, and Citrix will make this device a real killer, and it's good to know they will all be coming very soon.
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Though I enjoyed the greater screen real estate (versus my EVO), the Galaxy Tab really is (as someone else already mentioned) just a neutered Android phone. After using the Xoom for several days, and using apps designed for Honeycomb, the difference is remarkable (just try Pulse, YouTube, CNN, or any of the games optimized for 3.0).
I do miss flash in my browser a bit, but that will come soon. I definitely do NOT miss the capacitive buttons on the bottom (a requirement for pre-Honeycomb devices)...it was terribly annoying to be enjoying a video or reading a document and having to be careful with the way I held so as not to accidentally press one of those buttons.
Also, the location of the stereo speakers on the Xoom is so much more sensible than the speaker on the G-Tab, where, once again, if you weren't holding it 'just-so' the sound would be muted by the palm of your hand.
**I have yet to significantly miss the SD card or flash. I do wish we could permanently set the UA string on the stock browser though, and I'm looking forward to the Citrix Receiver being updated for Honeycomb**
For me, flash, UA string, and Citrix will make this device a real killer, and it's good to know they will all be coming very soon.
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I agree. It's definitely a neutered Android phone...but it stills does everything I need it to do for a portable device. I would probably feel different if it was my only tablet and I didn't already have an iPad for the past year that's had Pulse, the new CNN app, plus too many games that I have spent a fortune on!
Is Word with Friends optimized for the Xoom? A friend brought her husband's Xoom in for me to play with and we downloaded it and the letters were cut off. i thought it was under the tablet optimized section.
I am eyeing the wifi Xoom simply because I prefer Android to iOS but not having Netflix, Hulu, and my games might be too much to give up. Hopefully we'll see more advancement with the Android tablets.
Getting my Acer TF Tuesday night 500.00, yea I know 100 over but cant find it anywhere, but I am noticing all these issues is it not worth getting, because Im on the Fence about getting a IPAD 2, someone needs to convince me to get the Asus instead.
I sent my Iconia back to BB.
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I have an iPad 2, and once you get the transformer you will understand instantly why the transformer is better
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I have an iPad 2, and once you get the transformer you will understand instantly why the transformer is better
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so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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I am not, and I have both
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I am not, and I have both
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IM a big movie watcher and sling box. is the screen as nice as they say.
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so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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iPad UI is slightly smoother than honeycomb (HC is still really nice though, haven't had choppiness or lag so far) but widgets will always win over plain icons on my iPad.
The software loaded on the E3T (myLibrary, myZine, myNet, @Vibe, Polaris Office) work really well and since I read a lot it's quite handy. The slight modification to the UI (custom home/back/recent tasks/menu) icons are an improvement and any other changes they've made have all been for the better.
Yes the iPad has more apps, but I haven't had that much need for that many apps since most things you'll do are already included and mostly work well.
The screen is on par with my iPad 2, and better resolution/dpi, besides reading on 16:10 in portrait is a lot nicer than 4:3, and a lot nicer for watching shows/movies opposed to 4:3.
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iPad UI is slightly smoother than honeycomb (HC is still really nice though, haven't had choppiness or lag so far) but widgets will always win over plain icons on my iPad.
The software loaded on the E3T (myLibrary, myZine, myNet, @Vibe, Polaris Office) work really well and since I read a lot it's quite handy. The slight modification to the UI (custom home/back/recent tasks/menu) icons are an improvement and any other changes they've made have all been for the better.
Yes the iPad has more apps, but I haven't had that much need for that many apps since most things you'll do are already included and mostly work well.
The screen is on par with my iPad 2, and better resolution/dpi, besides reading on 16:10 in portrait is a lot nicer than 4:3, and a lot nicer for watching shows/movies opposed to 4:3.
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thanks for the quick review you convinced me.
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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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i agree with this. Having extra cables and chargers is really nice. also if you already bought apps on itunes then you wouldnt have to pay for them again on android.
I ordered both iPad and Tf. Keeping tf. In time both honeycomb and apps will catch up. Very quickly.
Does iTunes run on Linux?
I rest my case.
Itunes will not run naively on linux. You might get the windows version running under wine or in an virtual machine.
I have a new policy. I do not buy a product that has no Linux support.
To play devil's advocate ... the iPad 2 has a smoother UI than the Transformer (which will hopefully change soon) and if you download an app, it will likely work, even if it's in a small iPhone-esque window. Some Android phone apps will not work in Honeycomb. There's also a buttload of accessories, more developer support for apps, and a better chance that your tablet will be upgraded to the latest iOS without having to rely on forces outside the manufacturer.
But I'd still never own one. Glorified app launcher, I don't think it's a true tablet like the Honeycomb tabs. I'd get bored pretty quickly. But for someone who wants that experience (say, my parents, my sister, a coworker who finds Android confusing), I have no problem recommending it.
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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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I already had an iPhone and this was the deciding factor in me returning the Asus for an ipad2.
My father uses an iPad (3g). I think it is a very nice piece of technology, but I prefer the Transformer because it has the keyboard add-on.
I currently use a Macbook Pro and it is too heavy to take with me to classes. I plan on using the tablet + keyboard combo for university. It is light-weight and the memory is expandable.
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My father uses an iPad (3g). I think it is a very nice piece of technology, but I prefer the Transformer because it has the keyboard add-on.
I currently use a Macbook Pro and it is too heavy to take with me to classes. I plan on using the tablet + keyboard combo for university. It is light-weight and the memory is expandable.
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There is literally a world of reasons, but this is my main one...
The ipad runs a cell phone operating system while ASUS runs an actual tablet OS. While honeycomb isn't quite as smooth as ios when the next few updates arrive it will be far superior. We have an OS specified for tablets while the ipad has the same old crap on it... It is literally just a big iphone.
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There is literally a world of reasons, but this is my main one...
The ipad runs a cell phone operating system while ASUS runs an actual tablet OS. While honeycomb isn't quite as smooth as ios when the next few updates arrive it will be far superior. We have an OS specified for tablets while the ipad has the same old crap on it... It is literally just a big iphone.
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Let's not be inaccurate here to a fault. The iPad does not run a "cell phone operating system". There are slight differences between iOS for iPhones/iPod touch and iPad. Just because they look alike or are similar does not mean that iPads run the exact same operating system as an iPhone and iPod Touch. Last i checked, you couldn't load iPhone OS on an iPad or vice versa.
One can say that Android tablets are big versions of android phones as well. Just like there are apps that run on iPads only, there are apps that run on HC tablets only.
I own the iPad2 16GB WIFI (my very first apple product) ... been a pro-Linux / Anti-MSFT / Anti-AAPL guy for a long time. Given that ... take the next few bullets FWIW ..
CONS -
- The iPad2 's dependence on iTunes-PC tether
- The lack of ext. SD support .. a major downer for someone with a 16gb tablet.
- expensive accessories
- not hackable at all (as of now)
- yet another Apple product worshipped by the clan.
PROS -
- The display is gorgeous (videos and pictures look stunning). Screen rotations are quick and fast.
- Most websites that require flash ... interestingly, also have free iPad apps that play video just fine (i.e. CNN / HBO / CBS / ABC etc. etc. etc.)
- The battery truly runs 10+ hrs (even with moderate to heavy use)
- The battery truly does not run out when the unit is on standby. I close the smart cover in the night at (say) 50% ... the next day morning its at 49% ... and during the night it has also downloaded my emails (i.e. wifi stays on).
- Apps rarely bog down the iPad.
- Never had any lockups or reboots.
MOST IMPORTANT PROS
- Availability of apps. Its shocking how many native iPad apps there are. Almost every well-known company has an app on the iPad. TIVO has an app on the iPad. I doubt TIVO has the necessary resources to build a similar one for the Android. Also ... the iPad and the iPad2 have identical aspect ratios and screen resolutions making life really easy for software developers. Android Tablets will come in all flavors and aspect ratios causing major headaches for developers. To make matters difficult, schools and other institutions are buying iPads ... make it a more lucrative option for developers.
I am waiting for the Transformer to ship (on pre-order status @ Amazon and Target). Its going to be interesting.
Hello, TF'ers. I'am asking a simple question for those who love their Transformers but for some reason is lusting after one of the other tablet's. Please list the tablet you wish you could have and why.
Thanks.
I have my TF101 and I'm happily satisfied with my purchase.
I love this thing. Nothing else comes close.
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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.
I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.
More than happy with my TF'er. Tried the Zoom, tried the Ipad2 but neither come close. I'm mildly interested in the GT 10.2 to see what the fuss is about but the lack of SD card immediately puts a dampener on it.
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I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.
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I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once. I have 2 usb's slots and both SD and MiniSD card slots. I use a wireless mouse and BT headset nd get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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As a launch-day Pre purchaser who converted to Android in January of this year, I have to admit that I'm intrigued by the TouchPad. webOS really is SOOOO much better in terms of multitasking that I'd love to have it on a tablet.
However, there are three things that temper this notion. First, webOS does not and likely will not have the apps that I need for quite some time. The TouchPad won't even have Office document editing out the door, which is simply ridiculous. I can't believe that Samsung can completely redesign their tablet and release it in a few months, while HP can't get a single freaking app written that's absolutely vital to their product's success. Really, webOS made me promise myself never to buy something for a feature that's "coming soon."
Second, until a tablet has a keyboard dock as functional as the Transformer's, I'd have a hard time switching over. There's simply no better device for straight writing (i.e., just laying words down on the page) on the go. If HP releases a similar hybrid device someday, I'll think about it (assuming the apps are there), but Transformer is just a great all-around mobile device.
Third, while webOS is a nice OS in many ways, I'm disappointed that HP didn't design it to make better use of a tablet's screen size. Ultimately, webOS 3.X is just a blown-up version of the smartphone OS, with the same number of cards showing, only bigger. They could have done so much more with it. I really like how Honeycomb's screens can provide so much useful information at a glance. I often just turn my TF on, check to see if I have any emails, upcoming appointments, what the weather's like, etc., etc., and then just turn it back off. It's like a dashboard for my life, and so far no other tablet OS comes close in this respect.
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...........It's like a dashboard for my life.........
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Thats how I would describe it to the "T". You should sent that to Asus for branding...lmao
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Love my Transformer... But wish I have an iPad only due to the vast number of case options available. However I'm looking forward to receiving my multi-angle rooCase.
I don't undestand why you would want any other tablet (at least any other android tablet)
The TF offers everything all the other android tablets offer PLUS MORE... Anything else would just be a downgrade.
the only thing I'm lusting for currently is a fully functional Netflix app. I really love to watch movies quietly at night and currently have to switch over to my Nook Color to do this. TF is awesome, working Netflix would make it total perfection for my needs.
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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.
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The Transformer is better than the iconia. I had one, the screen on it sucks and it weighs a lot more. The only things it has over the transformer are the aluminum body (I actually prefer the transformer's body but most like aluminum that I've talked to) and the speakers have more bass. IMO the transformer wins hands down.
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I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once.
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Bollocks
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ClevelandWheeler said:
get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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Did you do something special to your batteries?
I wish it had normal browser like Chrome with extensions and such. I wish it had mouse hover capabilities.
I have a XFormer, but would love a Xoom, but only to see the benefit of Internal 3G.
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Yep the grass always seems greener on the other side. I'm lucky enough to be able to try them all out. I've got the Asus Iconia, the Transformer, and iPad 2 already, and the Galaxy 10.2 is in the mail. Starting to get a better profile of how I use them. Want to copy your camera photos to the tablet? Something with an SD slot will make you happier. Have movies on an external USB hard drive? Having a standard USB port will make you giddy if you want a movie off that drive to watch on your tablet. These emotional highs are momentary moments though, and 99% of the time I'm just playing games, reading email, checking the web, facebook, youtube. Every tablet does these fine, and during that time I appreciate the lighter ones. They all have a way to add a keyboard to them. Bluetooth is easy, especially once you've paired a keyboard. Apple and Samsung have $69 keyboard docks for their thin tablet dock ports. You pay more to get the Transformer's keyboard dock, but you get a far better integrated and multi-functional add-on for your money. Hooking up to these is an inconvenience of varying degrees. You are not likely to have the iPad or Galaxy keyboard docks with you when you leave the house, so they suck. Good bluetooth keyboards are always wider than these tablets are, and as such less likely to fit in the same case with your tablet. If you've got a case for your Transformer, it is likely for netbooks and will hold both the tablet and keyboard together. So if you prefer a physical keyboard to an onscreen one, the Transformer is clearly the standout choice. You have to weigh that importance though, as that keyboard dock doubles the total weight you'll be carrying.
I've been working on a showdown between these tablets for my blog. Easy enough to ding this one and promote another for a slot or port or not. Not sure the small time these features come into play will aggravate a user enough to choose ports over weight/looks though. Money obviously play a role, as the difference between the Asus and a full set of features with its dock and an iPad with all the same features via add-ons is huge. It help that the Asus starts out $100 under the iPad. Samsung is certainly brave going head-on with Apple, I'll give them that. They must be thinking that iPad buyers didn't mind no MicroSD or USB ports, and millions were sold, so microSD and USB ports don't really matter. They might be right. Time will tell if they sell more Android Honeycomb tablets than Asus. I can't see them ever catching up to iPad sales though, with nothing to add value to iPad prices. Pay that much and you might as well get an iPad. JMHO.
I am a very happy Transformer owner, everything else (at the moment) on the market, even the ipad 2, would be downgrading.
I love my ASUS transformer too.
However, if I had to pick another table between xoom or samsung galaxy v2 10.1 or iPad.
I would get the Samsung Galaxy 10.1, I checked it out at Best Buy yesterday and it was pretty nice. No lag at all either and it was very responsive.
Sometimes my transformer feels unresponsive, and it lags but it could be due to my tons of widgets on the home screen.
However if Samsung did have a keyboard dock like transformer, I would hop on it however I heard their updates were lacking and slow to be released.
Though I like how its lighter, thinner the transformer, and looks a bit nicer. Also I enjoyed the PLS screen as it also had more VIBRANT colors then the transformer.
I noticed a lot of problematic threads, and just wanted to start a positive one. I just recently purchased a Metallic Grey 32gb Galaxy Tab and it's awesome. Also, I just purchased the Belkin Case.
If anyone has optimizations, preferred settings, etc... that they believe results in an improved user experience please post.
Me personally - I just installed the Launcher Pro Free versions and this thing is moving super fast now!
-Disabled Scrolling BG
-Disabled OpenGL on the browser
-Selected a Static Wallpaper (Not Live)
My co-worker had his iPad 2 for comparison. Although, the iPad did have a more 'responsive' interface, it had no personality. All you could do was select an icon and run apps. I really like the ability to make the Android OS look totally different from the next tablet. He bought the ipad2 for his daughter, which makes sense, but admitted that if he were to buy one for himself it would be a tab... side note: we are both software developers.
If you are please with your Tab 10.1 purchase, let us know!
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Thank you, I needed the laugh.
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Happy here! Just waiting on custom ROMS
"it had no personality" lol.
i am happy with my 10.1....my wife uses ipad2 and honestly speaking... it will take one some time to get the hang of 10.1 due to its 'personality' after some time with ipad2.
the very first thing i was looking for when got 10.1... the counterpart of that physical home button on ipad2...
I carefully avoid using you your you'r...
home=little button that looks like a house on lower left...no matter how you hold it!
didn't vote. i do like it a lot and find it the best of the current hc tablets for my needs, but definitely not the "best thing ever" and nothing really to deal with except the limitations of tegra2.
so i'm satisfied.
Traded my iPad 2 for one and wouldn't look back. Awesome device.
Considering a return
Honeycomb simply isn't ready yet.. still lots of crashes and hang ups. The browser on the GT10.1 is essentially useless between the bookmark bugs and the constant crashing.
Unless samsung or someone can get it fixed within 8 days I'll be returning.
Some performance things:
ADW or Launcher Pro -- I prefer ADW, seems more optimized for tablet use. Runs great.
Set plugins on the browser to on-demand
Perfectly happy with it. Honeycomb is still buggy, but it's not a dealbreaker for me.
Best tablet ever
I havent had mine for long, but so far i am loving it!
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Great tablet but will need some more software optimization to catch up to the iPad (1 or 2).
Please don't quote me hardware configs, that's like saying the 415hp mustang is the same or better than the 400hp Aston Martin. I have used them side by side and frankly honeycomb looks better, but needs work quite a bit
I still picked the Tab over the iPad cos I need m. office to work on the tablet even if it is just to read documents, spreadsheets, pdfs etc etc
Voted "I'll deal with it". I purchased a 32GB metallic gray.
So far it's the best Android tablet I've had. But there is still room for improvement.
No micro SD, Honeycomb being slow, no Netflix, and a lot of incompatible apps, keep me from being able to vote "Best thing ever". It's unfortunate because most of the issues aren't the tablet's fault.
I'm hopefully Ice Cream Sandwich comes to this tablet as soon as possible. I don't think Google will ever get Honeycomb fixed.
Got my replacement tab tonight and its flawless...love it!
Apps have a long way to go but i dont care about the lack of sd or usb.
I just got mine and I'm getting used to it (comming from using a Xoom), I think there's still a lot of room for improvements in Honeycomb to make it a more pleasant experience...I'll be waiting for the custom roms/kernels as with the Xoom they made a real difference...lets wait for them to come...
The good browser options being hidden in debug.
Choppy ui/typing.
No official USB/HDMI yet
Tegra 2 total suckage in video playback and gpu power.
Market annoyances.
Outside of that I love it thus far. HC needs work and accessories need to be released.
I'd stab myself in the foot if I had to trade this for an ipad.
So I was just wondering what is the overall feeling about this tablet? I'm thinking about getting it and i was just wondering if everyone likes it or if its 50/50 or what?
I've owned the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Acer Iconia, Motorola Xoom, and the Transformer. I can say that the Transformer is the best tablet for the money on the market. It's not as sexy as the Galaxy, but it's more functional, far more flexible, and a hell of a lot cheaper.
Always hard to get objective views on a product specific forum.
I'm in a love/hate relationship with it at the moment. I love the form factor and the functionality. I hate the lack of tablet optimized apps/games and the awful build quality.
To me, it feels like a beta product. This isn't a bad thing per-se as I like to tinker.
I like mine a lot, and its definatley the best bang for your buck Honeycomb tablet out there right now. Although I do wish it had the form factor / looks of the Galaxy 10.1, the HDMI out and Micro SD card slot are oh so nice to have, especially for $100 less
The build quality and lightbleed issues are the only downsides to the tablet in my opinion. I got one with a few creaks in the back and some light bleed, but I just look past it. Its not enough for me to sell or go through ASUS to replace it. Still works great for me. Also, not all of the tablets have this, and Im hoping the newer builds have been fixed.
If your thinking about getting one, I would definatley consider it. Great tablet and a great price right now.
Other big plus is that Asus is really quick at getting the Honeycomb updates out. We've got Honeycomb 3.2 already which is great.
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Always hard to get objective views on a product specific forum.
I'm in a love/hate relationship with it at the moment. I love the form factor and the functionality. I hate the lack of tablet optimized apps/games and the awful build quality.
To me, it feels like a beta product. This isn't a bad thing per-se as I like to tinker.
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I definitely feel like im a beta tester, but I dont really consider it a bad thing. I enjoy using new equipment and working out kinks. Just wish i didnt have to pay so much for it . That being said, a lot of the kinks are worked out now from my experience.
Keyboard lag is gone. Havnt had a sleep of death since the first update. Everythings running a lot smoother with the last firmware update.
Its replaced my laptop in class more or less completely. I use evernote and ezpdf to take notes and its wonderful.
do you use any of the attachments?
I got a Transformer and didn't regret, that I bought it. I got it without dock, because I only wanted a nice tablet ... for everything else I have an i7 notebook with 6 GB RAM.
If I can recommend it? Maybe ... depends on what you want to do with it.
Regarding quality control ... it's the fortune of the early adopter nowadays to be a beta tester. Example: I also got me a Galaxy S2 and though I'm very happy with it, the S2 forum here at XDA is full of complaints about QC.
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The keyboard is the big attachment and its really the selling point of the tablet. If you anticipate ever using it then the TF is the way to go, if you dont anticipate ever using it then you could be happy with the Samsung, albeit with no SD card and costing a lot more.
The TF has a great screen, its flexible and its cheap. Its not built as well as an ipad (or the other android tablets) but I havent had any functional issues with its built, its not like its breaking on me. Its just you can feel the difference in the "tightness" between the two.
Being said I ended up buying a second for the girlfriend, tired of her constantly using mine.
I got mine in the first batch to come out- from TD. I have had no real issues accept a tiny light bleed- build quality is great for mine. no creaking etc.
It has done everything i ask of it and thrown at it. I use mine for about 70% work related with notes at meeting, signatures on contracts, email, polaris app etc. Even skype calling..
Constantly listening to music watching movies etc. Never had any issues with Battery usage.
I think it has gotten better with each update. Yes little bugs here and there after an update ut usually fixed or have work around within 24 hours. That stuff doesnt bother me.
I never got the keyboard because i felt it was an option that i would never really use so i invested in a nice case- ( PDAIR ) I love the concept of the keyboard but just wasn;t going to use itand did no need the extra bulk.
For me never needed to root it yet (maybe down the road ) but for now it is great as stock.
Last thing i will say is there have been alot of new choices out since i have bought it... yes they might have had a thing or 2 that the TF did not have but i never have second guessed my choice.
Good luck.
Well you get 16hrs of battery life with the dock. No other tablet has this kind of a feature at this price point.
The screen quality and responsiveness is in the top quartile of tablets released so far.
I am pretty happy with my purchase. 10x better build quality than the Archos 101 I purchased earlier!
I absolutely love my TF, probably best 399$ I have ever spent on gadget, mine also comes with some light bleed, other than that, build quality is great. Have 2 Ipad2 in the house and they both have worst light bleed.
Would I suggest this tablet to a friend over other Android tablet? Yes, best tablet in the market IMO.
Over an Ipad2? Probably not unless someone familiar with Android and a geek just like me...
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I got mine in the first batch to come out- from TD. I have had no real issues accept a tiny light bleed- build quality is great for mine. no creaking etc.
It has done everything i ask of it and thrown at it. I use mine for about 70% work related with notes at meeting, signatures on contracts, email, polaris app etc. Even skype calling..
Constantly listening to music watching movies etc. Never had any issues with Battery usage.
I think it has gotten better with each update. Yes little bugs here and there after an update ut usually fixed or have work around within 24 hours. That stuff doesnt bother me.
I never got the keyboard because i felt it was an option that i would never really use so i invested in a nice case- ( PDAIR ) I love the concept of the keyboard but just wasn;t going to use itand did no need the extra bulk.
For me never needed to root it yet (maybe down the road ) but for now it is great as stock.
Last thing i will say is there have been alot of new choices out since i have bought it... yes they might have had a thing or 2 that the TF did not have but i never have second guessed my choice.
Good luck.
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
I got my U.S. Transformer a few weeks ago, and I enjoy using it very much:
With my PC, most of the time is spent going on the Web, so on the Transformer I just set up bookmarks for my most frequently visited sites in both the stock browser and the Dolphin for Pad (downloaded from the Market) browser and that takes care of my usual browsing needs. Email is now handled through the stock Gmail app, so again most of that can be done on the Transformer side.
For music, I've started using Google Music to upload my stuff, so I can just stream down to my Transformer through WiFi. For videos, I had already encoded a lot of stuff to MP4 format using Handbrake to play on my phone. But with ES File Explorer installed on my Transformer, I can now keep those MP4 files on my networked server and then stream them to the stock video player. This all works great and takes up no local storage.
Games that I had on my smartphone are all installed onto the Transformer and work fine. I've also found that classic game console emulators work quite well on the Transformer.
If I'm desperate to watch Hulu or Netflix (without any hacked or rooted methods), the MyCloud > My Desktop > SplashTop method works acceptably well.
Painting with SketchBook Pro is quite fun with this fantastic paid app, and I'm looking into various do-it-yourself stylus methods to enhance the experience.
I haven't had the need yet to use Polaris Office yet, but after reading user reviews, it looks to be a very capable Office app when compared with other non-free competitors, and I actually appreciate Asus for giving this for us.
The build quality, in my opinion, is quite nice. I don't have any LCD light bleed issues. The LCD itself is great with fantastic viewing angles. The built-in speakers are surprisingly loud. The touch screen is very responsive. And the textured plastic back panel keeps the whole unit lighter and gives it a nice feel.
The only negatives I have are:
Camera - absolutely terrible, especially when using indoor lighting. But I already know that the video and photo taking experience on almost all tablets is not good anyway, so I never expected much. I almost never use the stock camera app. I have Vignette installed on my Transformer for the heck of it, but this rarely gets used either. I leave picture taking to my digital camera and my smartphone.
Browser - for some sites, I get slowdowns with both the stock browser and Dolphin for Pad. With Android 3.1, I experienced quite a bit of force closings with the stock browser. It's improved with 3.2, but it still happens. I find it hard to believe that Google makes such a good browser as Chrome but has such a mediocre one for Honeycomb.
Linux support - the only thing I ask for is the simplicity of plugging my Transformer into my Linux PC and have access to its SD and MicroSD cards. But I have to jump through the hoop of running a few lines in Terminal just to get those drives mounted and unmounted. It's a pain, and I wish it was as easy as the Windows experience.
Since using my Transformer more and more, my smartphone has pretty much been relegated back to being just a phone which is fine. This morning I began charging my Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 once it dropped to 1% battery power...and it had been running on that one full charge for 174-hours-33-minutes! I'll still use the phone for navigation and portable music after I get over the honeymoon period with the Transformer, but right now using my smart phone just isn't the same any more.
So since I've gotten the Transformer, I've made a conscious effort to reduce using my PC and my smartphone, and it's worked out great as a personal computing device. For a business environment, there might not be enough apps to support various needs just yet, but it'll get there, I'm sure. The Transformer is a very good bang-for-the-buck kind of device, and I have no regrets about having it.
Enjoy my tablet a great deal. I actually use it more than i thought i would. Im constantly looking for new apps that will make this into my swiss army knife.
I use splashtop a lot, and now added a Wake on Lan app which now has got me the bright idea to go out and purchase a home server...lol
build quality is definitely not the greatest. Personally, i dont think it compares to the newer tablets coming out. (build)
Dont own the keyboard. Im waiting for a good deal down the road when it drop to around $100. by then, i figure, ill give the TF to my wife (with a keyboard), and ill jump on to the newest tablet. (maybe TF2)
Im a first time android/tablet buyer and user, so i came with no expectations..
Ill know what to look for in my next purchase though.
(so, i guess im a beta tester)
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
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There are applications that let you fill out and/or sign PDF files. Adobe also has an app that converts things to PDF. Ive used my TF to fill out forms and sign them multiple times.
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
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There are alot of choices for this. I use Repligo PDF and love it.After i sign or client signs,on the TF I email it and looks just as clear as original.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cerience.reader.app&feature=search_result
worth the $4.99 investment,
Love mine, I'm confident I made the right choice. £400 for a tablet-only device is not a wise spend. £400 for a tablet AND a netbook IS thou...
Aside from the keyboard drain (which is being fixed under RMA as we speak), I have no issues whatsoever with my device, and overjoyed with it.
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
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I'd be very surprised if there is any app that iPad can do, that Android can't, as because of Android's open and less restrictive nature, you won't find missing apps, because "Apple don't like it, or Apple can't make money from it, or it cuts into Apple's buisness".
My TF is all good I have no problems with my tablet, maybe one of the lucky ones or just the fact that those few who have bad units choose to come to forums like this to seek advice and let everyone know how bad their unit is. With the dock it is an amazing bit of kit, I have tried the xoom, Acer and the Gtab, and unless you want form over function the TF is the best of the current bunch. As all the present android tablets running honeycomb are running the same os and internal spec. My own preference would be ports and functionality, screen, speed of updates and build quality. For me the TF ticks all the boxes.
Xoom, highintial price, lack of support and working ports, poor screen
Gtab, lack of ports, slow updates from Samsung.
I like the design of the TF especially when combined with the dock, equal to any high end net book, Asus have done a great job with amazing fore sight, it is original only the Gtab is thinner and that is purely because it is an I pad clone.
I would think the units with defects are no different to apple I pad or even the Gtab on a percentage basis, plenty of apple units go back to their stores.
With regards to being beta testers, we are with regards android for tablets, like we were back in the 90,s with win 3.11. My recommendation to anyone wanting a android tablet with the best all-round functionality at the best price, get the TF.
Had my TF about two weeks now, and am yet to have any issues with it. I love peoples reactions when I undock the screen though, it's brilliant.