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Here's the link and another and one more.
Also, as some comments have said, I think they're mixing up 4G service for 4G hotspot. I don't believe (or cross my fingers/hope/pray/etc) that Sprint will charge extra for 4G, but will charge the $10-20 for the mobile hotspot.
That's over two months from now.... WTF lol.
Here's another link from Engadget - http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/07/htc-evo-4g-landing-on-sprint-mid-june-4g-to-be-a-10-20-add-on/
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Here's another link from Engadget - http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/07/htc-evo-4g-landing-on-sprint-mid-june-4g-to-be-a-10-20-add-on/
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Ahh you beat me to it, was just about to add that.
And yeah, I know.. The release date is way too far away for me, I'm tired of sitting on this stupid upgrade.
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I'm tired of sitting on this stupid upgrade.
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Same here!!! I've been sitting on my upgrade since Nov. lol
Let me ask you Sprint customers about coverage.
I know they say Verizon has the most coverage blah blah and AT&T is next. I just think in sheer numbers these two get the most rezognition because of the 90Mil and 85Mil customer they have.
But I have been looking at the Spring Coverage and it seems they cover better of lots of areas that Verizon and AT&T are not that good at and equal to areas to areas they cover well.
Also any roaming charges? I ask this only because I am not familair with their data/phone plans anymore. The last time I had them was when roaming was a KILLER Charge!
So would you say their coverage is not given enough credit?
I don't like Verizon. I am inclined to pick up an HTC Telstra on April 27th for my AT&T network. I have no contract at the moment. I got the T-Mobile and returned it due to the bad coverage at some client locations and inside buildings the are horrid.
AT&T seems to cover almost every area that I need so far.
Sprint seems to cover them well but I like real life data not Sprint Data.
Thanks for your any input..
Sprint has fairly good coverage in my area. I live in a small town and have full bars inside my house. The only dropouts I have experienced in a 60 mile radius are in places where I doubt there is a tower for any cell provider and even then data just drops to 1x (I drive across an inlet bridge with land about a mile wide with the atlantic ocean to one side and the bay to the other side.)
I feel Sprint is getting back in the game full force. Time will tell when they roll out the EVO and 4G. Some potential problems could arise such as customers purchasing the EVO only to find out there is no 4G coverage in their area etc... But it's a risk Sprint will take and incentive to expand their network. You also have to remember not everyone is a smart phone junky or even cares about 4G. Most want a phone to talk on and text/picture message. I get asked by someone sitting on a laptop checking their email about why I play with my phone so much and I turn and smile and say I'm just doing the same thing you are and they still don't really get it. So it's an evolution although it will be marketed as a revolution.
I think Sprint's main problem, and something they have obviosuly known and been working on, is their device line.
Why is AT&T so popular? The iPhone of course...
If you don't like the iPhone, or don't like AT&T, check out Verizon, they've got that Droid!..
Oh wait, I don't like Verizon either... Tmob has a Droid Eris, right?
Wait, Tmob sucks... What's Sprint got? A TP2 that costs me 299?!, so yeah, that Droid looks good.
People are obsessed with what device they have, and THEN about their coverage. It's the only way AT&T can get away with jacking up their iPhone prices that high -- while Sprint offers the SAME plan for 30-40 a month cheaper.
But to answer your question, Sprint's coverage is great for me. Granted I'm in Texas (Sprint has 4G all over the place here), but for the cheaper plan and great coverage, I would say Sprint is probably the best carrier in my region. Why are so few people using Sprint? -my main guess (and I think its a good one) is that Sprint has crap phones.
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I think Sprint's main problem, and something they have obviosuly known and been working on, is their device line.
Why are so few people using Sprint? -my main guess (and I think its a good one) is that Sprint has crap phones.
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I don't think you can call 51.9 million Sprint subscribers (as of January 2010) "so few". Verizon had 67.2 million, and AT&T was sitting at 71.3 million. So take into account that the AVERAGE cell phone subscriber only knows what they see in commercials, the 15.3 million difference between Sprint and Verizon is easy to imagine. I have run into countless employees who have no idea that Sprint rates are better than Verizon's. They always cite, "Verizon has better coverage...", then I show them the rate difference and they swap over. Not to mention that coverage areas for Sprint and Verizon are almost the same. That being said, AT&T only has 3.9 million more than Verizon, and that can be attributed to the iPhone craze.
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I don't think you can call 51.9 million Sprint subscribers (as of January 2010) "so few". Verizon had 67.2 million, and AT&T was sitting at 71.3 million. So take into account that the AVERAGE cell phone subscriber only knows what they see in commercials, the 15.3 million difference between Sprint and Verizon is easy to imagine. I have run into countless employees who have no idea that Sprint rates are better than Verizon's. They always cite, "Verizon has better coverage...", then I show them the rate difference and they swap over. Not to mention that coverage areas for Sprint and Verizon are almost the same. That being said, AT&T only has 3.9 million more than Verizon, and that can be attributed to the iPhone craze.
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Woah passive aggressive, sorry dude.. I think we're saying the same thing (or atleast getting at it), but your prose is oh so more eloquent. My sincerest apologies.
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Same here!!! I've been sitting on my upgrade since Nov. lol
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I'm in the same predicament, except I started taking advantage of Sprint's 30 day guarantee, and am trying out different phones until the EVO gets here. (~$30 a pop when you return it)
I have a touch pro, and last month tried the Moment, it was cool, but had to return it.
Now I have the Pre, and I'm liking it so much (other than having to figure out how to pop open they keyboard with one hand) that I'm afraid I might not be able to return it.
[email protected] had mentioned that a number of 4G phones are to be released this year, I'm wondering if I should wait until the fall to make a decision on what phone is to keep my upgrade credit.
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I'm in the same predicament, except I started taking advantage of Sprint's 30 day guarantee, and am trying out different phones until the EVO gets here. (~$30 a pop when you return it)
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I was thinking of doing that lol. I had the Pre for a month and return it. All I need is a good device (the Evo) and being a sprint premier customer, I get 1 year contracts. So hopefully that hold me over till the next great device .
I've recently been having problems with some of my text messages not making it to my phone. Some get through, some don't. I spent nearly 40 minutes the other day with "tech support" (30 of them spent talking to an Android 'specialist'). In the end, I was told that they didn't know why some were getting through and some weren't. They pointed the finger at my friends who are texting saying the problem might be on their end (my gf is on T-Mo as well and we skyped so she could show me the 'sent successful' msgs on her BB 9700). The real kicker was when the specialist told me that I should delete my texts every day because "Android devices can't really handle holding more than 40-50 msgs at a time before it causes problems for the handset and the software." SMH.
Anyway, I've been playing around with a friend's Evo lately and I really like it. It's got me thinking of a possible switch to Sprint if this text issue keeps popping up and T-Mo keeps giving me BS answers.
I guess I just want to ask:
1. Any recent converts from T-Mo? How do you like Sprint so far?
2. Any experience issues similar to the one I'm having?
3. Any issues at all with the Evo or service in the LA area?
My friend said he's been with Sprint for about 10 years now, and I asked how customer service was. He said "I don't know, I've never really needed to talk to them." Seemed like a good sign to me.
Thanks XDA Evo heads!
I was on tmo before I switched to Sprint when I started working for them. Honestly on not working at sprint anymore and I'm still on it and got my fiance on it and we have a joint account. Sprint is amazing and I love it and I would never look back. Plus you could probably get a discount from where you work which helps. Customer service isn't bad if you have to call them. I've called them and if they can't help tu they usually offer some kinda something to take away the blow.
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i was in the same boat... i forced tmo to let me out of my contract b,c of similar problems, including weak signal strength and dropped calls....
I am having better signal strength and less dropped calls/ unreceived messages but not as good as I was expecting...
The biggest difference I noticed is that Tmobile customer support is miles beyond Sprints.
Sprint has the worst customer service that I have seen in a while.
The reps are dumb, disrespectful, dumb, don't care....dumb....
Not exactly what you asked for but I switched from AT&T to Sprint about 2 months ago for the Evo. I love the Evo..... but Sprint sucks ass. At least here in Central Florida, Sprint is the worst service you can have (AT&T is the best) I sometimes get calls and text 3 or 4 days late. I'm in the process of deciding if my Evo is good enough to stick it out or if switching back to AT&T is worth paying the higher prices.
Give it a try. You can cancel within 30 days for a full refund of both equipment and service costs. There is no risk whatsoever.
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I sent my wife a few texts 2 weeks ago that never made it.
I on the other hand have had no problems worth sprint's service.
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I've recently been having problems with some of my text messages not making it to my phone. Some get through, some don't. I spent nearly 40 minutes the other day with "tech support" (30 of them spent talking to an Android 'specialist'). In the end, I was told that they didn't know why some were getting through and some weren't. They pointed the finger at my friends who are texting saying the problem might be on their end (my gf is on T-Mo as well and we skyped so she could show me the 'sent successful' msgs on her BB 9700). The real kicker was when the specialist told me that I should delete my texts every day because "Android devices can't really handle holding more than 40-50 msgs at a time before it causes problems for the handset and the software." SMH.
Anyway, I've been playing around with a friend's Evo lately and I really like it. It's got me thinking of a possible switch to Sprint if this text issue keeps popping up and T-Mo keeps giving me BS answers.
I guess I just want to ask:
1. Any recent converts from T-Mo? How do you like Sprint so far?
2. Any experience issues similar to the one I'm having?
3. Any issues at all with the Evo or service in the LA area?
My friend said he's been with Sprint for about 10 years now, and I asked how customer service was. He said "I don't know, I've never really needed to talk to them." Seemed like a good sign to me.
Thanks XDA Evo heads!
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Best move I have made. Tmo did good bringing android but everyone else is blowing them away with phones and plans.
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I recall an issue similar to this on the hero.
Yes its true on some of the older Android OS there was some issues with alot of txt msgs my hero practically shut down when i hit 2000 txt msgs it wouldnt load them or receive any txt msgs.
as I recall just randomly not receiving them tho etc was resolved with a hard reset of the device.
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Not exactly what you asked for but I switched from AT&T to Sprint about 2 months ago for the Evo. I love the Evo..... but Sprint sucks ass. At least here in Central Florida, Sprint is the worst service you can have (AT&T is the best) I sometimes get calls and text 3 or 4 days late. I'm in the process of deciding if my Evo is good enough to stick it out or if switching back to AT&T is worth paying the higher prices.
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Weird, I switched from ATT and I had the problems u are describing, however the problems were w ATT, maybe it was the iPhone but service sucked, dropped calls, slow 3G speeds, customer service wqs bad, etc. I'm in central FL btw. As far as Tmo I got to admit they got pretty good customer service, can't really complain about sprints either. Service has been great as well, no dropped calls in 2+ months and great 3G/4G speeds. If pricing is a factor, Sprint has it covered. Check coverage in your area and see if you got good coverage, other than that o don't see why you couldn't switch and be happy w Sprint.
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Best move I have made. Tmo did good bringing android but everyone else is blowing them away with phones and plans.
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I agree here. However, what an above poster said. T-mo has better customer support. I was with T-mo for almost 10 years and recently switched over when the EVO came out because T-mo couldn't tell me when their next Android Device was coming out, and the only rumors were of the GPS phone which looked attrocious. The Nexus was available, but only for new plan holders and the price was rediculous, not to mention it was already getting long in the tooth. I love the EVO, and 6Mbps down on my 4G is great (when I get a strong 4G signal). I am not impressed with 3g as I never seem to get over 600kbps and I do not like the fact that I can't use Data and Phone at the same time on just 3g.
Otherwise, Sprint's plan is better despite the infamous "$10" fee, unless you primarily make phone calls to land lines. I got a bonus 450 min. on top of the 450 min. with the unlimited plan for land line calls and I rarely use 100 min. Otherwise they really are unlimited in the Data side.
I hope this helps in your decision. Good luck.
I've gone through most every cell provider in my state. T-Mobile, ATT, Cingular (basically same thing) Virgin, verizon, Cricket.
Cingular was by far the worst. Tons of missing.txts and dropped calls.
Then went to Tmobile. Loved Tmobile. Not a huge calling area at the time. But still great service.
Then to ATT for the iPhone. Loved iphone. Still didn't like att. Than I came to sprint foe the EVO. and so far its pretty good. Pricing is nice, even with the 10 extra for 4G.
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
I went from T-Mo to Sprint about two months ago, it was a great move. Better prices, able to do things in the shop. T-Mo forced my hand because they would not let me back into a contract and would not work with me on phones. I was very disappointed with T-Mo and how they handled me, especially because I had been with them for seven years. I have the Evo now.
If you are coming to sprint make sure you look into getting the Everything Plus plans to save some money.
Instead of the regular Everything 450 for 69, you can get Everything with 500mins for 59.
as dissapointed as i'v been with sprint, they do have unlimited mobile to mobile....
Thats pretty epic i suppose
Why does anyone use T-Mo on the first place (outside of Europe, that is)? Their 3G coverage is an absolute joke. It makes AT&T's coverage look fantastic!
Been with Sprint for 11 years, in 3 different states, any issue, that I can count on one hand, have been resolved over the phone.
You have 30 days to try it risk free, what's not to like ?
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I think I will try it out for a month and see how it is.
Weird, I switched from ATT and I had the problems u are describing, however the problems were w ATT, maybe it was the iPhone but service sucked, dropped calls, slow 3G speeds, customer service wqs bad, etc. I'm in central FL btw. As far as Tmo I got to admit they got pretty good customer service, can't really complain about sprints either. Service has been great as well, no dropped calls in 2+ months and great 3G/4G speeds. If pricing is a factor, Sprint has it covered. Check coverage in your area and see if you got good coverage, other than that o don't see why you couldn't switch and be happy w Sprint.
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Hmmm. I had an iPhone too (1st Gen and 3Gs) and never once dropped a call, my 3G speeds were always fast and customer service was always great to me (but I always went to the store I never called tech support and the people at my store are really friendly and polite).
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I agree here. However, what an above poster said. T-mo has better customer support. I was with T-mo for almost 10 years and recently switched over when the EVO came out because T-mo couldn't tell me when their next Android Device was coming out, and the only rumors were of the GPS phone which looked attrocious. The Nexus was available, but only for new plan holders and the price was rediculous, not to mention it was already getting long in the tooth. I love the EVO, and 6Mbps down on my 4G is great (when I get a strong 4G signal). I am not impressed with 3g as I never seem to get over 600kbps and I do not like the fact that I can't use Data and Phone at the same time on just 3g.
Otherwise, Sprint's plan is better despite the infamous "$10" fee, unless you primarily make phone calls to land lines. I got a bonus 450 min. on top of the 450 min. with the unlimited plan for land line calls and I rarely use 100 min. Otherwise they really are unlimited in the Data side.
I hope this helps in your decision. Good luck.
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i agree that the 3g sucks and that you cant use it at the same time but with the 4g you can surf and talk same time
Tmobile has the worst reception ever though.
Okay, so I've been doing some thinking... is Sprint just a bunch of assholes or what? They advertise the EVO as "The first 4G phone", but "plays nicely with 3G as well"... I think that's a load of **** fir the most part. For people like me, where when I looked on the Sprint coverage map for their 3G showed the best quality which is a load of crap.... my 3G speeds are terrible, luckily I have WiFi...but I'm not always home, so therefore it leaves me no choice but to use the horrible 3G that is mine. Voice/phone quality is amazing where I am, but really....if I can't even have decent speeds for 3G it's apparent that 4G may not even come to where I'm at.. it's just depressing, I feel like I'm paying for service that isn't entirely there, some of you may know what I mean...but yeah.. sucky part is that I can't cancel and go with someone else. I've had tmobile for years, never really had a problem with them, the evo was just so appealing...
/endrant
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You had 30 days to decide to keep your phone, you did. Nobody wants to hear you cry about a poor decision you made.
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Hold on let me get my violin
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Get over it u had 30 days u kept the phone so stop ur *****ing
from my phone duh
Interesting.. What are these horrible speeds? I live in the 4g dead zone and average about 1.2mb/s not super fast but it works. Also, Sprint seems to treat people good when you have a legitimate issue and you let them know nicely. Hell, years ago they gave me 25% off my bill when my mogul kept breaking over and over... I used the crap out of it, was wearing out keyboards in weeks. Try to call them, there's nothing we can do for you here.
Not sure where you live but in Arlington, VA I get around 2 Mbps on 3G and 8 on 4G. I agree that you had 30 days to see if you liked the service or not.
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I can understand what the op is saying BUT, Sprint still has the best overall pricing even after the $10 for no 4g coverage so I can't really complain. My 3g speeds here in the metro Detroit area are not so great though. I get about 700kbps downloads. Not the best but not the worst. I tried T-Mobile and the 3g was about 1.0mbps but the bill was $40 more a month. Not at all worth the trade off for an extra 300kbps. I really only use the evo for streaming pandora and casual surfing so I really don't do a lot of downloading or wifi tethering. But Sprint is by far the best overall service for the price.
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Also in metro Detroit. I was with tmo for 9 years and Sprint's data coverage and speed is a huge improvement along with better pricing. Voice coverage is about the same. I've been with Sprint for about 6 months with no real complaints. Not to mention, yearly upgrades cuz I jumped on a shared plan and they're already premier members.
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I agree with others. You had 30 days, which is more than enough time, to test the network. No carrier has excellent coverage everywhere. They all have dead zones or bad signal areas. If you didn't like the service in your area, why didn't you return the phone within 30 days?
I have no problems, at all, with Sprint. And coming to Sprint from T-Mobile, I can most definitely say that Sprint has the better network.
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Hold on let me get my violet
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Lol. What's a violet? ;-)
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Are you serious ???
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with GSM). CDMA has just, overall, been better. Problem with the other CDMA (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
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Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with CDMA). GSM has just, overall been better. Problem with the other GSM (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ
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umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma
MikeSkiX said:
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Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone else plan?
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gqstatus0685 said:
Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone's plan?
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ooopps..
NewZJ said:
umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma
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Oppps......lol....flip flop em. Sprint and Verizon = CDMA. AT&T / Tmobile = GSM
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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so true...
This has to be a joke / trolling
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so true...
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Are you guys trolling. Seriously. There is a 30 day trial period. No questions asked return period. Everyone who signs up with Sprint knows it.
You are either:
A. Trolling
B. Not reading prior posts......ie UBER LAZY (there is only a couple pages)
C. Retarded.
Lets hope its B.
You guys are silly !!!
BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
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YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
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Lighten up, Bud ... he was being facetious.
There's a 30 day trial period?
love the epic, awesome phone. but being stuck in 2006 with 3G data and paying basically the same as other people are paying to the other carriers with 4g data is frustrating to say the least. Especially when I was told 4G would be in my area but it isn't anywhere within 5 miles of where I live and I don't live in the boonies. Further, even where I can get 4G, its completely unusable, just goes on for a little bit, then disconnects, then reconnects. Chat told me they were still building out the network which I seriously fail to believe.
So bottom line, has anyone had any luck with getting out of the ETF fee so they can go to a carrier that didn't lie about 4G?
I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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That's pretty easy for you to say since you already have 4G.
From what I have read, no carrier has true 4G currently. But t be honest I am pretty pleased with the speeds I get with 3G.
But it would be nice to get the speed boost that sprint is calling 4g
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I'm glad its working for you, why don't you try it down here in south florida. it apparently works okay for people in Miami too. that doesn't help the people that were all told they were getting it. And before you type inane stupid things, try to think before you type. I did my research, i was told 4G was coming, and specifically to my city, yet it isn't in my city or any of the neighboring cities, plus sprint is talking about switching to LTE so thats a pretty good indication that WIMAX certainly isn't getting built out anymore in areas where it is "Live". And according to sprint south florida is live from Miami Beach to West Palm Beach. Oh except for the 80% of the parts that aren't. LOL. Oh and you didn't buy the phone for 4G, thats good for you, I bet 80% or more of the people did buy it for 4G. No one is complaining abou the price, its a great price, if 4G actually worked. and the other companies like ATT Tmobile have speeds that are at least 7 times higher than 3G sprint. so I'd consider that 4G. Verizon will be there very soon and Metro, Metro of all carriers, the dog crap carrier has 4G and its half the price of what i'm paying for sprint to lie directly to me.
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I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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Such a poor argument... They are charging the extra cash now on any smartphone. Also, have you seen a single decent android phone on sprint besides the evo, shift, or epic? They don't exist for a reason, to funnel people into 4g phones.
to the op... Yeh I'm fairly sick of not having it, it's extremely close to me but it fades all the time. Basically, just like the epic itself it was a great idea, awesome technology, but poor execution leaving it lacking.
its not that I really need it that much, its the thought of forking over 150 bucks a month for 2 phones for almost the next 2 years that is frustrating, especially when 3G is out of date now, let alone by next year.
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Such a poor argument... They are charging the extra cash now on any smartphone. Also, have you seen a single decent android phone on sprint besides the evo, shift, or epic? They don't exist for a reason, to funnel people into 4g phones.
to the op... Yeh I'm fairly sick of not having it, it's extremely close to me but it fades all the time. Basically, just like the epic itself it was a great idea, awesome technology, but poor execution leaving it lacking.
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I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
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So you are saying people shouldn't try to future proof as much as possible? Not everyone can afford to buy a new phone every year or 2 years, etc. So if you are up for a new phone, why not get a 4G phone. That way, when 4G finally comes to a city that is on Sprints list, you won't have to upgrade your hardware.
Seems like Sprint isn't upgrading/expanding their 4G network at all and Sprint customers are stuck paying just as much as other people on other carriers for the same/slower speeds. Not cool
Fed up with the lack of 4G? Absolutely. And let's not forget Sprint shafting their "Premier" customers and getting rid of yearly upgrades if your plan isn't over 89.99 or if you've been with Sprint for 10 years. If Sprint keeps it up, they will continue to lose customers.
Look. The epic 4g has 4g capability. The phone is a multimedia powerhouse with or with out 4g. 4g is nice but not a necessity. Can some of you honestly say that you would tether your phone to the computer to play WOW? If the answer is yes...please seek counseling for your WOW and youtube addictions. Guys nothing is ever truely perfect.
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Id be frustrated if I bought th phone and was paying for 4g and not getting it.
But, I live in nyc so I knew I wasgonna get 4g sooner or later so I upgraded and a week later 4g went live
You should've gone with another carrier. Like the other guy said, do research befoe signing your wireless life away for two years.
Right no I don't even have 4g service, or even 1xrtt. I'm in wifi only right now, but idc. Because I know when I get home, I'm not gonna have any service issues. I leave 4g on while I'm home in nyc.
I was seriously considering going to t-mo because my friend with his TP2 was getting 5mb/s dl speeds and stuff, but sprint came through at the right time so I stuck with them.
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I spend 1/2 of my time in NYC (which has 4g) and 1/2 the time in Long Island which does not. Although it work well when the phone is actually connected, most of the time I cannot connect to it while inside a building (even in Manhattan coverage is pretty spotty) - so when I wifi tether 4G hardly ever works. In Long Island, most of the places that I am in have wifi so lack of 4G has not been a problem personally. But I understand being upset for paying the $10 a month without ANY 4G availability in the home market.
again, did the research, read the quoted press releases and the article from the newspaper down here that listed the cities 4G was coming to. so i would be happy to go with another carrier but can't fork over ETF, and buy another phone when I already forked out 500 for these.
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You should've gone with another carrier. Like the other guy said, do research befoe signing your wireless life away for two years.
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Look. The epic 4g has 4g capability. The phone is a multimedia powerhouse with or with out 4g. 4g is nice but not a necessity. Can some of you honestly say that you would tether your phone to the computer to play WOW? If the answer is yes...please seek counseling for your WOW and youtube addictions. Guys nothing is ever truely perfect.
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i don't know about you, but I don't do anything major on the phone, I do like to browse the web though and occasionally download something, like maybe a new rom for the phone thats impossible to do at 3G speeds that half the time are 300K or less. want to send a picture? how good is that going to work on 300K. So its not like 4G is just for gamers or youtube fanatics. youtube isn't even installed on my phone.
I have used WiMax in Atlanta and Nashville, and its awesome.
The Epic is Epic even without 4G, but I do wish I had it here in Louisville.
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My concern is they've quit releasing any sort of expansion plans. Last year when the EVO and Epic were fresh they went on and on about which markets would be getting it. Now, nothing. If I at least knew if it was eventually coming to my area I'd be happy. Sprint has until my contract is up or VZW/ATT get LTE going to get some 4G in my area or I'll finally be switching carriers after almost 10 years. That being said, I get pretty decent 3G speeds to tide me over in the meantime.
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lycwolf said:
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
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Actually t-mobile has a equivalent plan cost. My girlfriend has a G2 and it is faster than my 4g (san antonio) she was getting 8k down while I get 6 or 7. Not to mention they get a better signal here.
No need to be a jerk about it. You would be just a frustrated if a sprint rep told you that 4g is coming soon...but it hasn't.
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robl45 said:
love the epic, awesome phone. but being stuck in 2006 with 3G data and paying basically the same as other people are paying to the other carriers with 4g data is frustrating to say the least. Especially when I was told 4G would be in my area but it isn't anywhere within 5 miles of where I live and I don't live in the boonies. Further, even where I can get 4G, its completely unusable, just goes on for a little bit, then disconnects, then reconnects. Chat told me they were still building out the network which I seriously fail to believe.
So bottom line, has anyone had any luck with getting out of the ETF fee so they can go to a carrier that didn't lie about 4G?
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No one lied. On the Sprint website you can look at the 4G coverage map. If that wasn't good enough, you shouldn't have jumped onboard.
Verizon and T-Mobile are aggressively building out their 4G networks. ATT has upgraded its 3G and unveils 4G this summer.
Sprint's 4G expansion has mostly halted as Clearwire teeters on the edge of bankruptcy. This 'news' was obviously not known when these phones were released with Wimax touted. The OP's criticism is valid.
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No one lied. On the Sprint website you can look at the 4G coverage map. If that wasn't good enough, you shouldn't have jumped onboard.
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really?? I could look at the coverage map before they put it on the site right? before it was live in south florida? The rep asking me for my zip code and telling me I would be getting it soon wasn't lying? or the one on chat that said they are still building it and I would get 4G soon wasn't lying right?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/08/nearly-half-a-million-contract-customers-left-t-mobile-in-q1-201/
Will YOU be leaving?
If the merger goes through, then yes. I have been a tmobile customer for 7 years. I have been satisfied with the hardware, the accounts, and even the customer support. Especially the customer support.
AT&T want a stellar company before the SBC buyout, but it became terrible after. I expect the same thing if Tmobile is consumed.
I do not look forward to finding a new carrier.
I don't think I'll leave TMO unless AT&T acquires it and doesn't let me keep my current plan and pricing. I travel accross USA and do not have a voice coverage problem with Tmobile. Its excellent with few to none dropped calls. But the data sucks, my phone switches to edge 80% of the time as compared to my co workers AT&T and Sprint.
Not to mention I pay less than $160 for 2 lines with unlimited everything.... The next cheapest is sprint @ $210
If the buyout goes through, absolutely leaving. I will never be an AT&T customer again, even if it means taking my Vibrant over to Simple Mobile.
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I'll be leaving as well. As far as when, that depends on when the merger goes through and who gets the SGSII. One things for sure, I'll NEVER use AT&T again.
I agree with most the other comments....... I pay 152 per month for 2 lines unlimited everything......... and I use it............ When and IF ATT does get T-mobile. . . then I will have to find a new carrier, I really like TMO but tempus fugit......
As far as the customer loss I do not see that as a real big issue, if I remember correctly, the average for all the major carriers is between 6-8 million per carrier per year or as it is called in the industry the "churn"
I agree with KWKSLVR it is about who gets the S2
It depends on my dad....he pays me and my sister's phone bill cuz we're in college...no matter if we stay or go...i still gotta unlock my Vibrant for another carrier
If the plans stay the same then ill stay plus some might have better coverage
in areas they never did
T-Mobile coverage is terrible Verizon has the iphon now and at&t had some good Android phones.
I'll be leaving.
Also, t-mobile hasn't cared about building out their data network for a long time. Data id more important than voice to me. I use 50 voice minutes a month but 2gb data. I don't mind paying more for a better network...
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any other provider sounds better then att. i would gladly switch to boost with an unlocked android. or even metropcs has got a few good androids to date. att is making a losing bet unless they all of a sudden change their pricing plans.
N8ter said:
T-Mobile coverage is terrible Verizon has the iphon now and at&t had some good Android phones.
I'll be leaving.
Also, t-mobile hasn't cared about building out their data network for a long time. Data id more important than voice to me. I use 50 voice minutes a month but 2gb data. I don't mind paying more for a better network...
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If you knew T-Mobile coverage was bad in your area perhaps you should have started out with a different carrier in the first place. Here in Dallas I get 3G or H almost everywhere.
Add me to the list of people who will leave T-Mobile the day AT&T goes through. Keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen.
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If you knew T-Mobile coverage was bad in your area perhaps you should have started out with a different carrier in the first place. Here in Dallas I get 3G or H almost everywhere.
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Hi idiot.
I did. No one else had coverage but t-mobile thanks to voice roaming, but at&t put a New 3g tower up so now they have everything. I went from at&t to sprint before t-mobile.
Thanks for using that pea sized brain of yours, though.
At&t... Building out their network.
T-mobile... Dead end.
And traveling with a t-mobile phone is a lesson in frustration compared to at&t other Verizon.
I'm with them cause I live in a rural area and had no choice then.
NOW I do... So ill be leaving.
Don't care where you live and how your signal is, tbh. even at the hspa+ market down the interstate your phone can go from full 3g to edge at any random time.
T-mobile are not defendable, so stop ****ing trying Even with good phones and low prices people are leaving, and for a reason. They aren't spending more just cause they can... There are sizeable cities here that can't get more than 3 bars gprs from t-mobile here, but the other three carriers have full 3g
Thank you.
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I've been a T-Mobile customer for almost 5 years. Up until I transferred to the college in this town now, my 3G data service has been great. Im actually so unhappy w/ T-Mobile..Right now i live in Huntsville,TX where I goto college at and T-Mobile is beyond garbage here. Personally, If I'm going to pay the same amount of money as someone who has 3G/4G coverage, i have to have to have the same equal coverage. I'm back and fourth on GPRS and Edge here missing important calls like clockwork. I can get a similar plan with AT&T for the same amount with 4G service here in this town. (Trust me i work for Radioshack and I know all about both companies plans and prices as well as restrictions) When the Samsung Galaxy S2 comes out this summer for AT&T, I'm leaving T-Mobile to give AT&T my money instead. I'm not handing over my whole pay check for a Verizon phone LOL and I'm not going to Sprint with their 3G coverage map looking like a pepperoni pizza LOL
For the most part, T-Mobile has been beyond great as far as customer serviceand pricing, its just that voice and 3G data coverage is, always, and forever will be their weakness and that doesn't work for me.
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