Cwm help - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First off I apologize for my ignorance.
I perma rooted my friends mt4g. I am sure its something stupid but I downloaded rom manager and flashed the recovery.
The recovery didn't seem to work. Everytime I try to it goes to stock recovery. With the!
I'm not familiar with mt4g. So I apologize if this is a stupid question. I couldn't find an answer as tto what I did wrong.
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I tried the terminal menthod as well. I still can't seem to ffigure out what is wrong.
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I used the visionary method to root.
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How are you trying to get into recovery? You can go into ROM manager and select reboot into recovery or you can power down the phone, hold down power+volume down and select it from hboot. Remember, in Hboot make selections using the power button and in recovery make selections using the trackpad. If you still cant get in re-flash recovery.
Now that I think about it, are you sure you are permrooted? Go into your Hboot to check. Make sure s=off.

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How are you trying to get into recovery? You can go into ROM manager and select reboot into recovery or you can power down the phone, hold down power+volume down and select it from hboot. Remember, in Hboot make selections using the power button and in recovery make selections using the trackpad. If you still cant get in re-flash recovery.
Now that I think about it, are you sure you are permrooted? Go into your Hboot to check. Make sure s=off.
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Hmm you know what. It says s=on. Which is strange because it superuser works after each reboot. I still have root access.
I used visionary to perm root. Is there something I may have missed. I'm getting frustrated with his mytouch. Lol
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You have visionary set to root on boot. You have to follow the steps to achieve permroot. You might want to try the gfree method. It is in the development forum under ultimate s off sticky.

No. I have temp root on boot off. Lol. That's the weird part. I stays rooted but it says s on. I will look up that method though thanks.
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Permaroot Issue

Hello everyone,
I've followed the directions for the s-off and permaroot to the "T". I have s-off in stock recovery, but when I reboot I don't get superuser permissions automatically in terminal, or any other root app.
I temp rooted again with visionary 14, went back into terminal and sync. Waited again for 2 minutes, rebooted and still, no root at boot. Any suggestions?
P.S. sorry if this is a repost, I've searched for this in many threads, but no luck. Disregard with a link if so. Thank you in advanced.
If you have s off then use visionary to attempt perm root. That's what I did and I now have s off and root permissions.
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Cool, thanks that worked. I appreciate it. I flashed clockwork and tried to boot into recovery and all I get is the phone and red ! with a triangle. Sorry, a bit new at this.
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You hit either power and volume up at the same time or power and volume down at the same time. I can't remember which one.
Glad to help, usually I'm the one getting the help, lol.
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nivlac978 said:
You hit either power and volume up at the same time or power and volume down at the same time. I can't remember which one.
Glad to help, usually I'm the one getting the help, lol.
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He's hitting the buttons right, it's just that he's got the stock recovery installed.
Flash clockworkmod again, then try rebooting into recovery mode using rom manager.
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If you're still getting red triangle after flashing cwr, check the option "erase stock recovery" or something like that in settings. That worked for me.
Yeah that's what I did. I checked it, reflashed clockwork, fixed permissions and problem solved. Now the big cm6.1 or baconbits decision..
Thanks for all the help guys
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Visionary root; red triangle when attempting recovery

Hello all, newer android user here. I used VISIONary to perm root the device and all superuser permissions are working fine. But when I try to go in recovery mode a red triangle error with an exclamation point comes up. Did some searching and still no luck.
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itsNICyo said:
Hello all, newer android user here. I used VISIONary to perm root the device and all superuser permissions are working fine. But when I try to go in recovery mode a red triangle error with an exclamation point comes up. Did some searching and still no luck.
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Sounds like you still have the stock recovery installed. Go into your hboot mend (power button and down on the volume rocker) and make sure that you have s-off, then download Rom manager from the market and flash clockwork recovery.
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Thanks for the response. S is on - what do I do to get it off? The reason I used visionary is because I have no access to a pc - just a macbook.
Also, I have already downloaded clockwork and flashed
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Flash the Recovery ROM again. Your first attempt must have failed. The red triangle -is- the stock recovery (which only shows that screen, nothing more).
couldnt say it better, Would recommend using computer to go through process just to understand the details of rooting. Very helpful,
itsNICyo said:
Thanks for the response. S is on - what do I do to get it off? The reason I used visionary is because I have no access to a pc - just a macbook.
Also, I have already downloaded clockwork and flashed
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You do not need a PC to root you phone. IIRC Android does have an SDK for apple computers
any who you can turn s=off via a script. The Unlockr has a kick @$$ walk through for doing it. The Unlockr
Basically you download This file
and
extract the folder from with in the .zip
then you store that folder on the root of the SD card
Download "terminal emulator" from the market
then from within the Term. Emul
$ su
# cd/sdcard/root
# sh root.sh
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And it will push/edit the files needed for "s=off" on your phone
after you've done that boot into BootLoader (how down the volume down button and power button when you turn on the device) make sure at the top it says s=off.
after you do that Flash the Clockwork ROM Recovery Image.
Instructions worked great.
Except now I have flashed iced glacier on - and every time I try to use the internet, the page fully loads then immediately closes and returns to home screen. Mini Opera works fine though.. ?
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You must install Flash from Market.
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Help doing a nandroid backup

My first post and im sure i missed it somewhere. Ive spent the past 2 hours reading and searching for some help. I want to do nandroid back up. EXACTLY how do igo about it?
I justgot myG2 a week ago. A day ago i perm rooted it and then overclocked.
I came from a back flip that i rooted and installed j_rodds recovery and rom.
Do i need to do the same custom recovery like j_rodds?
Use rom manager and click "flash clockworknod"
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Yea. After you flash clockwork. You can either backup while in rom manger or when your phone is off hold vol down+power then go to recovery. There should be an option backup/restore. Lol note use the track pad to navigate
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Once you flash ClockworkMod recovery using ROM Manager, you can also perform the nandroid through ROM Manager, as well. I prefer this because it gives you an opportunity to rename the backup before you create it (instead of getting a seemingly random number sequence). I.e. you could have 'CM7-Feb20' instead of '032301-110235003'
Think of ROM Manager as a GUI for recovery.
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Once you flash ClockworkMod recovery using ROM Manager, you can also perform the nandroid through ROM Manager, as well. I prefer this because it gives you an opportunity to rename the backup before you create it (instead of getting a seemingly random number sequence). I.e. you could have 'CM7-Feb20' instead of '032301-110235003'
Think of ROM Manager as a GUI for recovery.
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Lol yup what he said
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Its not a random number sequence, its the date and time the backup was made.
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Its not a random number sequence, its the date and time the backup was made.
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True, but if you have more than about 3, it gets a bit confusing. Much easier if they're appropriately named.
When I try this by powering off the phone and restarting with holding down the volume key. Then going into recovery. I get a triangle with a red exclamation point.
Need to flash clockwork in rom manger
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Open rom manager, the very top option is to flash clockworkmod recovery. Do that.
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I have followed everyones instructions. But I still get the triangle with red exclamation when I try to get into recovery at boot.
DL ROM manager from app store, install ROM manager, open ROM manager, press "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"(should be first thing at the top), confirm phone model.
Either reboot into recovery, or scroll down to backup, and proceed to do so.
Daughain said:
DL ROM manager from app store, install ROM manager, open ROM manager, press "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"(should be first thing at the top), confirm phone model.
Either reboot into recovery, or scroll down to backup, and proceed to do so.
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Have followed this as well. When I try to boot into recovery I get the triangle with red exclamation.
I have done all the suggestions as listed above. I have noticed when i boot by holding down the volume and power, At the top of screen it still says s-on.
Shouldnt it be S-off with root?
Im over clocked with set cpu, have superuser permission app and terminal emulator show su, and titanium backup shows root. So have i missed something and that would explain why i cant get into recovery?
HELP????
mike102871 said:
I have done all the suggestions as listed above. I have noticed when i boot by holding down the volume and power, At the top of screen it still says s-on.
Shouldnt it be S-off with root?
Im over clocked with set cpu, have superuser permission app and terminal emulator show su, and titanium backup shows root. So have i missed something and that would explain why i cant get into recovery?
HELP????
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Getting root and s-off from my understanding are 2 different things. Root is its own thing and s-off lets you falsh custom roms..... try going into rom manager and clicking flash clockworkmod.....do it like 2 times. You should be fine
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jark99 said:
Getting root and s-off from my understanding are 2 different things. Root is its own thing and s-off lets you falsh custom roms..... try going into rom manager and clicking flash clockworkmod.....do it like 2 times. You should be fine
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Ive done this probably a dozen times. Even uninstalled and re installed. Still shows red triangle if i try to get into recovery
ok, The phone does have to have S-off to load a custim recovery. Did that and it now works.
Now if i could figure out how to sim unlock phone after perm rooted and s-off
mike102871 said:
Now if i could figure out how to sim unlock phone after perm rooted and s-off
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Subsidy unlock is what you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF
Ah thanks so much. Now I'm perm rooted. Subsidy(sim) unlocked and over clocked to 1.4ghz. But the oc won't stick on reboot. I have to go into g script and do it. Also got the nandroid to work after s- off.
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Ah thanks so much. Now I'm perm rooted. Subsidy(sim) unlocked and over clocked to 1.4ghz. But the oc won't stick on reboot. I have to go into g script and do it. Also got the nandroid to work after s- off.
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Use SetCPU and check "Set on boot"
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Perm Root not working

I followed multiple steps for installing perm root on a friends Mytouch and for some reason we could not get the s-off feature to work. I noticed too we do have SU access via adb or terminal but I still never could get s-off. After we got root we used rom manager to install clockwork and after the fact it installed 3.0.2 i believe it completely borked the recovery. I stepped it down to 3.0.0 and still had the same issue. The main reason i wanted to get s-off was to adb flash the recovery but I got a signature fail. Any ideas or suggestions to get this working correctly? Rom Manager will not let me install 2x cwm basically stating it can not install it period. I also tried the batch file root method same issue. Thanks for your help in advance.
Please look at the "True permaroot and S-OFF" thread in Development section, and execute step-by-step.
If your friend's MT4G is running Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3), you'll need to use Gingerbreak instead of Visionary+ to get root access.
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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dynamicj said:
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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If you are following the ./gfree method step by step it will root your phone.
If you are using the root.sh script and it's not working chances are you may have a bad eMMC chipset and it will not root properly.
I know HTC said they would be pushing a update to close the exploit hole that is used to root our phones but i don't think it's been pushed yet.
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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dynamicj said:
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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HTC isn't "becoming a Motorola". HTC, is completely different. We do have a locked bootloader. But it's easily unlock-able whereas Moto's aren't.
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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dynamicj said:
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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I don't know what to tell you. There are several threads out there regarding how to root your phone. Both in a .gfree form and a root.sh form. One of those 2 work for 99.9% of EVERYONE.
You might try finding someone who put together a .zip that can be flashed through the android recovery(white screen with boot options, etc.). Otherwise you can get the RUU and return to stock. After that follow the directions step by step and DO NOT mix methods. This should result in an S-OFF root, if you did your homework correctly.
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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dynamicj said:
I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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Until you have "s-off" no recovery image will stick.
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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dynamicj said:
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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What method are you using?
I have tried them all
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dynamicj said:
I have tried them all
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What errors are you getting?
Just can not get it to go soff i have root in the device otherwise. Recovery also just shows a computer and cell phone icon after Rom manager install clockwork mod 3x. I am just trying to adb install a older cwm.
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As someone already explained before, when the security is on, no matter the amount of flashing you're going to try - it won't get you anywhere, since it won't be written to the actual ROM, and will be gone on restart.
Unless you pick a guide, follow it exactly, and post here everything that doesn't look proper - I don't think the forum can help you much.
Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Follow it and post anything that doesn't look good. Including your bootloader version.
The root is sticking on reboots but still no soff that's what i have been saying and i followed the guides to a t its not my first picnic rooting or roming a phone this one just has me stumped
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What does your bootloader show when you boot into it?
For the root to stick after boot, you had to have S-OFF, otherwise the eMMC wouldn't have been written to.
Having no info from you, as I said, it's impossible to help. If all this thread is just a complaint - by all means, but in that case there's no point in helping you. If you want help - you need to provide enough details for people to help you. Obviously, nobody can figure out anything from "I can't get s-off".
I do a adb reboot bootloader and i get us fast boot up top it says s-on but if i reboot to the os i still have root access for instance in titanium backup or Rom manager of that helps any
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Broken root

I have installed the rockmod_devroms_2.3.4.1-speedy and broke my root by installing "extras" can I try the rooting process again or do I have to revert back to froyo?
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Are you still s-off and have access to recovery?
I am new to this and the rom manager says I don't have root accsess and am afraid to try because I don't want to ruin my phone.
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your good.. turn off your phone, then hold volume down and power at the same time until you boot into hboot. After it runs through a few checks, do you see s-off at the top of the screen?
Sorry I need laymens hboot and s-off elaborate
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jimbowski51 said:
Sorry I need laymens hboot and s-off elaborate
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Turn off your phone. Once the phone is off power on by holding the volume down and the power at the same time. (This could take up to 10 seconds) Your phone will now boot into hboot or bootloader. It will run a couple checks manually, then you'll see a few options (fasstboot, recovery, factory reset etc..) at the very top of your screen you should see "s-off" If you see that your good. You'll just need to restore a backup or flash a ROM to get your root access back.
I've had this happen where I lost root, I just re rooted again its easy.I always keep the stock 2.2 ruu just in case I need to start over
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So there is "s-off" @ the top. Are u telling me I can restore one of my saved roms and I will have my root again?
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jimbowski51 said:
So there is "s-off" @ the top. Are u telling me I can restore one of my saved roms and I will have my root again?
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Yep, you still have root. Something was broken within the ROM you were using. Just boot into recovery and restore a backup or wipe and flash a fresh ROM.

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