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Dev Request - HDMI Desktop Out

Ok, I'm getting this "phone". I've been sitting around waiting for a release date for what seems like a year now, lol.
Here is my one request, from the marvelous XDA dev community, who has never ceased to amaze me in the years I've been here.
I want this thing to do HDMI out. I'm not talking pushing a YouTube video out of the HDMI port, I want to see Android on my 24" monitor. I want to be able to use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to run the controls, and I want to be able to dock my Streak and use it on a larger display. 720p/1080p would be a huge bonus, but I have no idea what limitations are in place there.
Ok, that's it. Make that happen, and I will be very happy.

If you pay £55 for the Dell Home AV Kit it will do this I believe......

Granted, I don't have a Streak on which to try it out...but isn't that only for videos (YouTube, video files, etc)? As far as I'm aware, you don't get the actual desktop, right?

I don't have one either, but in a video I saw it appeared that the dock only pushes the video through the HDMI and not the android "desktop."
I too would love to be able to do this though!

Ah right thats not too good then, the Samsung Galaxy seems to be TV-Out and just replicated the system as on the screen, I'm thinking of buying a Nokia N900 to play with as it has TV out and would let me play SNES / Mega Drive games etc when I'm in a hotel room.

I wonder if full TV Out is something we could hack

£55 is a lot for just movies out...i was hoping for full android on my big tv

fracmo2000 said:
£55 is a lot for just movies out...i was hoping for full android on my big tv
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Yeah, that's for sure. Big deal, if I wanna watch just movies, I'll find a computer and do it. The power of HDMI-out is in being able to use Android on your phone on the go, and then docking it and using it as a netbook-replacement when at a desk (or as a HTPC when in the living room, etc.)

Give it a few months once the Chinese get their hands on it and they will churn out the Accessories and flood ebay

I need this also for a bmw idrive integration. I'm sure the community will crack it.
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i would love to do this while also running ubuntu it would be like christmas (or when i first heard about android) i would dock it and BAM i would have ubuntu then dissconnect it and id have android

sgeorge said:
I need this also for a bmw idrive integration. I'm sure the community will crack it.
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I just bought a BMW with the new 1280 pix CiC I-Drive display. With a Motorola Bionic, I'm hoping to send TV to the phone via SlingBox and send the HDMI out from the phone to the display in the car.
Thoughts?

Real HDMI App

I just came across an app called Real HDMI. It says it's only for the Droid X but it's supposed to allow you to turn off/on the HDMI port, and "use your favorite video players, applications and emulators on your big screen TV or Stereo."
Wondering if something like this could work on a Streak?
Link to Real HDMI.

we need this for Dell Streak
Hey I would love to do this. What a great app. My wife and I would not need the computer so much, if we could use this more with the dock, big screen hdmi, bluetooth keyboard and mouse.

Any luck
Pls,has anyone tested this yet? I would really like to know as I want to output my streak to my TV as well. I have both apple Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and they both work like a charm when I connect them up to my streak.if I had the ock, I would happily give this a go but then I don't

Apparently its been removed from the market
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There is also a devlopement from the atrix forum for mirroring the screen that doesn't work.
Also a couple of apps on the market for the eco that also don't work.
Needs some inr to convert them for the streak
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Is there a way to mirror thru the 3.5mm jack? Using something like a iphone AV cable.

Hdmi out is limited to video and audio....why?

This might be a rant, so I apologist up front but..........
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
What I was hoping is that it could see the operating system and effectively act as a monitor and therefore a portable computer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=mypLbSnxECE
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Another trick dell have missed
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Maybe someone can write an app like they did for the DroidX that outputs everything you see on the screen.

Fazziebear said:
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
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This is what majority of owners want - to watch a movie on TV and play some music.
The ability to have desktop on TV is useless for them - you cannot touch TV screen to press a button anyway...

But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
I also have 3 devices for watching films on my tv (cable, ps3 and dvd player) why do I need another one. But if I could replace them with something better I would.
The present function is not better but in fact worse as I have remotes for my other players
Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
Short sighted developers and a lack of understanding of what is possible is the only thing blocking it.
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Fazziebear said:
But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
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But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
The desktop on TV is pointless...
Fazziebear said:
Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
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You don't have to convince me that it is nice use case.
I am only saying that from Dell point of view it is so rare, that it's not worth working on it. ROI is to low.
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.

it would be preferable if the screen stayed "on" the telly (or monitor?) for everything though - saves going back and forth between the two screens. Can understand why it's not a priority for Dell though, but I think they'd sell more docks if it DID do full output....i'd probably buy one then!
I presume it's not possible for someone to develop something?..............

smokku said:
But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
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Not really, The streak becomes the remote for the screen. Keyboard and track pad.
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smokku said:
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.
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Defo support bluetooth keyboard, not too bothered for a mouse, defo support an output to monitor.
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I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.

clubtech said:
I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.
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+1 In a New York minute.

Full HDMI support and BT Keyboard and Mouse! This combo will be the best! Just add a 42" flat tv and you've got a good everyday PC for multimedia, internet, email an so much more!

Tv out?

Has anyone tried to use tv out on the fascinate? Its the main reason I got the phone only to find out it may not have this function like the other galaxy s phones. Does anyone have a cord to try it with?
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betcmrekoapl said:
Has anyone tried to use tv out on the fascinate? Its the main reason I got the phone only to find out it may not have this function like the other galaxy s phones. Does anyone have a cord to try it with?
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I would but damn, 50 bucks for the Micro USB to HDMI cable from samsung.

I'm more interested in the rca out from the headphone jack actually
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Tried earlier with a Zune video cable but no luck. May be the cable however, can't ring it out to confirm until Monday.
Any links to confirm pinout of the headphone connector on the Fascinate in the meantime?

I saw a video earlier today showing a prevew of the 3.5mm jack to rca on the international galaxy s, and it was enabled through settings > sound & display, but looking at my phone, I do not see tv out and sub menu that the person navigated in order to enable tv out.
Hmm.

sorry double post

I was looking for this function too and can confirm it is not listed under the settings. How likely is it that the hardware was changed to remove this feature?

It looks like there are still four contacts inside the 3.5mm jack on the phone. I'm hoping that means the hardware hasn't been changed and only the software so that someone can potentially get the tv out function working on the fascinate
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I hope so, was really looking forward to playing NES/SNES via a bluetooth controller (Wii Remote, anyone?) on a TV from my Fascinate!

Itll work just swap the red n yellow cables
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i ordered a 3.5mm jack to rca cable, will see if it works when it gets here.
It was tested on a captivate and worked, so we will see, it was cheap so no big deal.
All I have at my disposal right now is a 3.5mm Stereo Plug To Dual RCA Jack Adapter but all it has is red and white. Will testing that lead to anything while I wait for the other cable?

Plug the red where the yellow go n the white in its right place. Make sure you have tv out selected in settings first. It should show on your tv.
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Some of you proabably already know this, but for those of you who don't, check this out. If you have a PS3, and it's connected to your home network, you can stream movies off your phone, through the PS, onto your TV, using the AllShare app. It's not the greatest quality, but certainly ups the wow factor of this phone when you demonstrate it for your friends. Also, if your TV is networked as well, you can use your phone as a remote to stream the movies on your computer to your TV, and these play in excellent quality.

djunio said:
Plug the red where the yellow go n the white in its right place. Make sure you have tv out selected in settings first. It should show on your tv.
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The point of this thread is that we dont have the tv out option availible on the fascinate.

darkcaster5 said:
The point of this thread is that we dont have the tv out option availible on the fascinate.
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Unless samsung removed that feature, it should be in. They claimed the galaxy S line did t.v. out. I know i tested on the vibrant and it worked for all but copy protected movies.

orateam said:
Unless samsung removed that feature, it should be in. They claimed the galaxy S line did t.v. out. I know i tested on the vibrant and it worked for all but copy protected movies.
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I think for whatever reason, some settings that come with other galaxy s phones, do not come with the fascinate. The obvious one is tv out, then I also read about being able to change the font to a few different preset options, but also cannot locate that feature. There are probably more left out features that I don't know about, due to never playing with any of the other galaxy s variants.

orateam said:
Unless samsung removed that feature, it should be in. They claimed the galaxy S line did t.v. out. I know i tested on the vibrant and it worked for all but copy protected movies.
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It is definetly not in the software options, however I would not be suprised if Samsung left it out (it is not on the Epic 4g either) until 2.2 so as to help promote the HDMI output option as well. (Why buy RCA for $10 when you can get HDMI for $50 mentality)
Just speculation on my part, I have no idea why the option does not appear. However I would really like to see someone compare the dumps from on of the other US models and compare to see if we can add it in

darkcaster5 said:
It is definetly not in the software options, however I would not be suprised if Samsung left it out (it is not on the Epic 4g either) until 2.2 so as to help promote the HDMI output option as well. (Why buy RCA for $10 when you can get HDMI for $50 mentality)
Just speculation on my part, I have no idea why the option does not appear. However I would really like to see someone compare the dumps from on of the other US models and compare to see if we can add it in
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look in the sounds and display options. it's the last option in that menu on Vibrant.

As said previously the option is not there on the samsung fascinates menu.

I have the cable and it worked on my Captivate, but I dont have a Fascinate in front of me (yet). I would assume with no setting to turn on, you (we, since I have two on order) are out of luck. I know with my Captivates, it worked only when enabled. Mine should be here the 22nd and then I can check.
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Making Streamer Out of Nexus 10 (Via HDMI Cable), Will it be Worth it?

Hello to all people,
I've been reading quite a lot lately about (android) tablets because I want to buy one at last.
I managed to shrink my options to 2: Nexus 10 and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity.
After hard digging about the Infinity in the forums I decided to drop it and go with Nexus 10.
One of the reasons I want a tablet is to make a streamer on the go from it...
I want to connect it to my TV with a HDMI cable to stream some movies.
But from tons of the reviews I read, I only noticed one review mentioning the quality and stability of the streaming. And It wasn't positive.
So I am asking you guys (and girls), what's your experiences on using the tablet this way?
Sorry for my poor English, its not my native language.
Thank you in advance for your answers,
Leon.

HDMI streaming works good. The picture quality is great; however, I do not get any audio through HDMI. This might be a cable issue. Not a big deal since you can output audio through the audio jack.
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Just tried it. Works great hooked up to my surround set. I get audio as well so everything works
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Thanks for the answer you 2.
Although there is many threads on some issue when streaming via HDMI, like no sound and black stripes on the sides and flickering I was reading....
makes me kinda worry...

Can you make full-screen the tv with no black spaces in the sides? i hate that
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Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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nyijedi said:
Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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Well that's why I said I am choosing Nexus 10 over the Asus one... You are not the only one who suffered, and I read most of the complains people wrote.
I have other question though.
Since I lack the experience on the issue:
How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?
Asking because I have a receiver connected to my 5.1 audio set.

Does work, but mine struggles with higher bitrate 1080p movies over wifi.
There are bars but these may be able to be removed if you get rid of the 3 quick buttons at the bottom, not sure if this is possible with custom software.
Not quite sure what you mean by this comment:
"How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?"

re: stay away from Asus
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Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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Couldn't agree more. I tried out a TF700 from Amazon for a month, and during that period I had to exchange once from Amazon for a defect in the screen, then send the replacement in for warranty repair because of the same problem. Got it back from warranty 'repair' and it had the same problem in a different location of the screen. Returned them both to Amazon and bought a Nexus 10 from the Play store on launch day.
Couldn't be happier.
I was also amused that the rep claimed they had no prior reports of the screen/bezel problem, when the TF700 threads on here are filled with posts about it. And of course, if you've unlocked your bootloader (using the tool they provide) you have absolved them of any responsibility to repair manufacturing defects that passed through 'quality control' at their factory.

MPJ88 said:
Does work, but mine struggles with higher bitrate 1080p movies over wifi.
There are bars but these may be able to be removed if you get rid of the 3 quick buttons at the bottom, not sure if this is possible with custom software.
Not quite sure what you mean by this comment:
"How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?"
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What I meant to ask is this:
I know that Nexus 10 does not posses optical audio port (TOSLINK), so I was wondering what people that want to use this sort of audio output do? Withought forgetting that the HDMI cable is beeing used for the picture and not the sound...
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Couldn't agree more. I tried out a TF700 from Amazon for a month, and during that period I had to exchange once from Amazon for a defect in the screen, then send the replacement in for warranty repair because of the same problem. Got it back from warranty 'repair' and it had the same problem in a different location of the screen. Returned them both to Amazon and bought a Nexus 10 from the Play store on launch day.
Couldn't be happier.
I was also amused that the rep claimed they had no prior reports of the screen/bezel problem, when the TF700 threads on here are filled with posts about it. And of course, if you've unlocked your bootloader (using the tool they provide) you have absolved them of any responsibility to repair manufacturing defects that passed through 'quality control' at their factory.
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That's quite the horror story :cyclops:

TheBigL said:
Hello to all people,
I've been reading quite a lot lately about (android) tablets because I want to buy one at last.
I managed to shrink my options to 2: Nexus 10 and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity.
After hard digging about the Infinity in the forums I decided to drop it and go with Nexus 10.
One of the reasons I want a tablet is to make a streamer on the go from it...
I want to connect it to my TV with a HDMI cable to stream some movies.
But from tons of the reviews I read, I only noticed one review mentioning the quality and stability of the streaming. And It wasn't positive.
So I am asking you guys (and girls), what's your experiences on using the tablet this way?
Sorry for my poor English, its not my native language.
Thank you in advance for your answers,
Leon.
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Streaming works great here. I can tell you as a former infinity owner that the nexus 10 blows it out of the water...
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TheBigL said:
What I meant to ask is this:
I know that Nexus 10 does not posses optical audio port (TOSLINK), so I was wondering what people that want to use this sort of audio output do? Withought forgetting that the HDMI cable is beeing used for the picture and not the sound...
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so you want something like this?:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2#description

MPJ88 said:
so you want something like this?:
-- "Link you gave me" -- (I cant repost it because I am a new posting user)
Yes, Thank you very much. :good:
I now know the direction I am heading to.
But I would like to keep it more cleaner and simpler.... Isn't it any other way to just split the HDMI cable into an HDMI and optical audio cable?
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Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?

zero383 said:
Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?
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Yes, I'd like to know that also. My previous tablet was a BB PlayBook and it had controls for when you were connected to HDMI that let you control the output resolution, whether audio was passed through etc.. Is there anything like this in Android?

zero383 said:
Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?
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tofo17 said:
Yes, I'd like to know that also. My previous tablet was a BB PlayBook and it had controls for when you were connected to HDMI that let you control the output resolution, whether audio was passed through etc.. Is there anything like this in Android?
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Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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TMFGO45 said:
Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Thanks for that unfortunately it needs root and I don't want to go there (yet).
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TMFGO45 said:
Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Tried it but doesn't work with my rooted Nexus 10. The screen flashes and stays on instead of turning off.

I connected the Nexus 10 to my TV:
- stereo audio is ok
- bad picture quality (its resizing)
- big black borders at the left and right side
- wrong frame rate on TV - movies look very bad
for me its a no go. Its absolutely not worth it.

I think it certainly must be possible as toslink is digital audio and hdmi outputs digital audio as well. I don't think any conversion would be needed so all you need is someone who makes the cables and takes the audio pinouts from the hdmi and routes them to a toslink cable as well. Unfortunately there isn't exactly a massive demand for such a cable so either find someone who makes the cables or maybe trawl the hi-fi websites to see if anywhere would sell them.
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