So, even the the magical iPads homebutton is slower then the Galaxy S 2s one. Also when waking the device up! You will have to live with that. Also this is not a problem at ALL for me, I can not understand why people are always flaming about it.
Please tell me what you think. I know the video is useless, don't tell me that.
This video will fall on deaf ears for the Apple Fanboys I think... because your attachment is Flash and they probably can't view it.
This video clearly shows that Galaxy S2 isn't the only device that takes a second to wake up or return to home, which is nice and all. Still, coming from a HTC Desire, it does present an annoyance, as it's not something you expect from a device that costs that kind of money. I bet the Sensation wakes up instantly...
The thing that's even worse for me is the extra step that just shows a black screen with a clock, before the wallpaper kicks in. I know that's just because I'm using a stock ROM, but they should at least sort that out, because it really looks ugly, slow and cheap.
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This video will fall on deaf ears for the Apple Fanboys I think... because your attachment is Flash and they probably can't view it.
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I watched it on my iPad just fine.
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I watched it on my iPad just fine.
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You really want me to upload somewhere else than YouTube?
I know home button lags and that there is a wake-up lag on my SII, but i haven't been in a situation of life and death up till now to rely on home button to save my life. So i'm still cool with it, even though i would have liked the phone to perform faster.
apple falling down with releasing SGS2 ))
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Well the SGS 1 home button press is nearly instant when exiting from an application. So I expected the same from SGS 2. I'll flash it with cyanogen when I get my JIG to reset the counter. I hear it doesn't have the lag.
1-2 second lag also cannot accept is crazy...
Maybe this is why apple is suing Samsung. They even copied wake up lag. Lol. Seriously its not lag its the phone waking up from a lower clock speed while in sleep. Sure they could fix it but battery drain will be worse I think. My quad core i7 also has lag when waking up.
Thanks for sharing the video. I wonder if someone could show an HTC wake up I bet there is a small lag too
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Well the SGS 1 home button press is nearly instant when exiting from an application. So I expected the same from SGS 2. I'll flash it with cyanogen when I get my JIG to reset the counter. I hear it doesn't have the lag.
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Im using Cyanogenmod, and theres still "lag" if the device is in deep sleep.
But if you just lock the screen, and then unlocks, its instant.
As the first post, I think this is normal.
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LOL nice video, I never really understand when people said they have "wake-up lag" coming from an iPhone 4 it's pretty much the same. Maybe 2 seconds is too much but anything under 1 second is definitely how it should be.
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Maybe this is why apple is suing Samsung. They even copied wake up lag. Lol. Seriously its not lag its the phone waking up from a lower clock speed while in sleep. Sure they could fix it but battery drain will be worse I think. My quad core i7 also has lag when waking up.
Thanks for sharing the video. I wonder if someone could show an HTC wake up I bet there is a small lag too
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exactly... it takes a while waking your phone from deep sleep. u all should be happy u r having deep sleep. to prove this.... next time your charging your phone... press home button to wake the phone WOW it wakes up INSTANTLY ! haha
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exactly... it takes a while waking your phone from deep sleep. u all should be happy u r having deep sleep. to prove this.... next time your charging your phone... press home button to wake the phone WOW it wakes up INSTANTLY ! haha
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By god its TRUE!!!!!!!
I honestly dont understand what the fuss is about with the home button lag and wake up lag, such a miniscule issue thats not worth getting upset for.
Can anyone exactly explain why this is frustrating or annoying ?
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I honestly dont understand what the fuss is about with the home button lag and wake up lag, such a miniscule issue thats not worth getting upset for.
Can anyone exactly explain why this is frustrating or annoying ?
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Let's say you have 500ms delay after pressing the home button. In real life, the delay is much much longer but let's say 500ms. How many times do you press the home button in a day's use? I personally press it at least 300 times a day, actually much more times in a busy day, but let's say 300.
So 300 x 0.5 seconds: 150 seconds = 2.5 minutes of my life every single day is lost because Samsung can't code properly.
I've been using this phone for 2 months: 60 days. 2.5 minutes x 60 = 150 minutes of my life gone waiting so far. That's more than 2.5 hours in two months... Vanished.. Gone.. Just waiting for the home screen to appear, nothing else...
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exactly... it takes a while waking your phone from deep sleep. u all should be happy u r having deep sleep. to prove this.... next time your charging your phone... press home button to wake the phone WOW it wakes up INSTANTLY ! haha
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Nothing wrong with deep sleep but it doesn't have to take 1.5 seconds. Deep sleep still means that RAM is refreshed, so it is not impossible to do this much faster. Waking CPU <10ms, restoring CPU state (reloading code etc) <100ms, so where is the time spent? The delays are probably related to other hardware like GPU etc since everything must be ready. But it is not impossible to do this faster.
This is not a big problem for me, but I cannot see any reason not to demand improvement.
EDIT: I'm talking about wake-up lag of course, probably a bit off-topic here...
There is no Homebutton-lag! It has to have a delay because on the standard Samsung rom it has to "wait" for a second press because they mapped an action to double pressing the homebutton. I don't know why you people can't understand this... On CM7 there isn't this lag because there is nothing mapped on double pressing the homebutton.
Oh and wakeup lag is a whole other story...
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Well the SGS 1 home button press is nearly instant when exiting from an application. So I expected the same from SGS 2. I'll flash it with cyanogen when I get my JIG to reset the counter. I hear it doesn't have the lag.
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It its so that the phone has enough time to detect a second click which its used for voice control. Find a room without the voice control installed and it won't have the exit lag.
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Talked to head of Samsung mobile in Norway today. We agreed on a direct replacement phone, and if that doesn't solve the lag (which he says he has only heard about once...) I will get a complete refund. Hope this helps (not much hope though), or else I will go for the refund and a DHD.
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(which he says he has only heard about once...)
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seriously? they test with no apps - text and make calls only ?!
I guess everyone with `lag` of some sort or another is imagining it..... Not good Samsung.
Exactly. My impression too. But he claims that "every" sales person in Samsung has it and uses it with "no" problem. Just too unbelievable to me... As you say they probably only have 10 apps and use the phone for texting and calling and probably mail...
Hey to be honnest i've only had significant lag with one version (JPK was horrible to be honnest, but i didn't factory reset or wipe cache after flash)... different notions of lag, maybe i'm really lenient. exept for opening the widget menu in the homescreen, that took ages, worse for adding applications.
what do you guys refer to as lag?
My lag is from 2-30 seconds when opening apps. Sometimes unlocking the phones takes 5-10 seconds. Especially noticeable if apps are not already in RAM. It also happens that it freezes for minutes.
On a friends HTC desire similar navigational tasks are more or less INSTANT!
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My lag is from 2-30 seconds when opening apps. Sometimes unlocking the phones takes 5-10 seconds. Especially noticeable if apps are not already in RAM. It also happens that it freezes for minutes.
On a friends HTC desire similar navigational tasks are more or less INSTANT!
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wow yea that's hardcore. I've never ever had such bad lag issues. I mean 2sec is ok-ish in my books, but 30sec is just too much.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of the two phones running the same apps. I knew that when i used to use a taskiller it would slow me down a lot. Some apps messed up my speed.
hi guys i have been fiddling around with 2.1 for about 24 hours now and may have found a VERY simple lag fix
on the left page there is your quick settings bar tap on the brightness tab it seems that $ony didnt optimize the screen very well on my device it is using ALOT of power witch is really no suprise but hey hopefully this may "Fix" some lag problems until the very talented devs *cough* sarcasm *cough* over at $ony actually fix the problem
cheers guys
and i just want to say thankyou to all the devs that have been working hard on the bootloader and ROOT
Wait what?
What does the screen brightness have to do with lag?
I'm guessing power consumption to much going to the screen and not enough going to the cpu / gpu that's my theory anyways
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The two are mutually exclusive. Neither affect each other.
Also, the quick way to test this is to just turn down the brightness and see if the phone is still laggy. It probably will be.
actually, when your phone starts to lag, if you use the app android info, alot of the cpu power, is going to the face recognition operation. Like around 60-70 percent cpu power. Which is weird that you cant disable it... when it isnt doing that, the phone runs buttery smooth. It starts on its own for some reason even with all my auto-syncs off :\ its worthless anyway, all the pictures it tagged were all wrong
Just been on the phone to Samsung service centre in the UK and they said if u are not happy with the phone u have 28 days to return it, from where u got it and they will replace it with a new one...
and the purpose of this thread is.......?
Odd that Samsung would do that as its not their responsibility .
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Im having wifi issues with phone as a lot of people are, and also its a bit sluggish... unless of course you think its supposed to be like that, apart from this its a great phone (best Ive had anyways)
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Just been on the phone to Samsung service centre in the UK and they said if u are not happy with the phone u have 28 days to return it, from where u got it and they will replace it with a new one...
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since samsung does not sell the phone directly, where exactly are they claiming you can "return the phone to within 28 days"? i would think that depends on the place in which you purchased it. and i dont think its the same for every store.
i'm confused.
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Im having wifi issues with phone as a lot of people are, and also its a bit sluggish... unless of course you think its supposed to be like that, apart from this its a great phone (best Ive had anyways)
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Sluggish ?! Where ?!
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Sluggish ?! Where ?![/QUOTE
read below
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No, that's not normal. Take it back dude. Mine never lags.
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Sluggish ?! Where ?!
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Ok it lags when i press the contacts, phone, and messaging buttons a tad, and sometimes it takes over a second to wake up, when i click out of a widget, it lags a lot... if this is normal then ill wont bother taking it back....
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Ok it lags when i press the contacts, phone, and messaging buttons a tad, and sometimes it takes over a second to wake up, when i click out of a widget, it lags a lot... if this is normal then ill wont bother taking it back....
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Hmm I'm going to film what you say and you'll say me if it's the same with yours. Because with me it's like instantly. Except maybe wakeup.
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Hmm I'm going to film what you say and you'll say me if it's the same with yours. Because with me it's like instantly. Except maybe wakeup.
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So your wake up is slow to is it ??
Ive taken my sd card out now to see if it makes a difference sometimes it wakes instant, sometimes not. but as i said there is s little lag with the phone, message. and contacts app, and a cpl of widgets.
Wifi also, i just want my phone to be right
if your using samsung widgets thats your issue. that **** will slow down a f15 fighter jet.
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So your wake up is slow to is it ??
Ive taken my sd card out now to see if it makes a difference sometimes it wakes instant, sometimes not. but as i said there is s little lag with the phone, message. and contacts app, and a cpl of widgets.
Wifi also, i just want my phone to be right
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So I just did the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htp1BvOO3AM
Just have hidden messages but didn't accelerated or cut a part of the video.
And yes wakeup is like 1sec delay and can be annoying.
I'm not seeing any slow downs. At all. I had 3 HD games open (Nova, Lets golf 2, and Real Football 2011). I was playing Nova and it was getting a bit heated and I didn't know why but there was absolutely no lag so I didn't pay attention to it, figured the game is taking up quite a bit of power. I stop after about 30 min, and go into task manager to see... all 3 games were running. That was just f'in impressive... the phone taking all this without lagging even a second.
I dont have any samsung widget lags either : \ Before this I was using launcher pro on Galaxy S 1 with an axura custom rom which was relatively lag free (just saying that because I'm not comparing TW 4.0 launher with TW 3.0).
Having said that, the only slight delay I have is when I pinch in all the homescreens. Even that is just a slight stutter if anything. The live widgets I have on desktop are Gallery (cycling through abotu 100 12MP pics), weather, task manager, Email, Sticky notes, Poweramp music player, Youtube, FML, Yahoo Finance, several Pulse feeds, and calendar). These are my live widgets plus ive got a few app shortcuts scattered around. So I'm not too upset with the pinch on home screen causing a bit of stutter since suddenly all those things are being live refreshed/updated.
If you have the lag you're talking about... I'd say something is wrong with your phone.
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So I just did the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htp1BvOO3AM
Just have hidden messages but didn't accelerated or cut a part of the video.
And yes wakeup is like 1sec delay and can be annoying.
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Seems like yours is instant mine isn't, ill take it back into shop in the morning they have said they would replace it.
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I'm not seeing any slow downs. At all. I had 3 HD games open (Nova, Lets golf 2, and Real Football 2011). I was playing Nova and it was getting a bit heated and I didn't know why but there was absolutely no lag so I didn't pay attention to it, figured the game is taking up quite a bit of power. I stop after about 30 min, and go into task manager to see... all 3 games were running. That was just f'in impressive... the phone taking all this without lagging even a second.
I dont have any samsung widget lags either : \ Before this I was using launcher pro on Galaxy S 1 with an axura custom rom which was relatively lag free (just saying that because I'm not comparing TW 4.0 launher with TW 3.0).
Having said that, the only slight delay I have is when I pinch in all the homescreens. Even that is just a slight stutter if anything. The live widgets I have on desktop are Gallery (cycling through abotu 100 12MP pics), weather, task manager, Email, Sticky notes, Poweramp music player, Youtube, FML, Yahoo Finance, several Pulse feeds, and calendar). These are my live widgets plus ive got a few app shortcuts scattered around. So I'm not too upset with the pinch on home screen causing a bit of stutter since suddenly all those things are being live refreshed/updated.
If you have the lag you're talking about... I'd say something is wrong with your phone.
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Well im clicking out of apps now there is a second delay till it gets back
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Seems like yours is instant mine isn't, ill take it back into shop in the morning they have said they would replace it.
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Before you return, you can always try this
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts&feature=search_result
Install and set Window Animations to fast & Transition Animations to fast also.
(I didn't modified that in the video)
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Just been on the phone to Samsung service centre in the UK and they said if u are not happy with the phone u have 28 days to return it, from where u got it and they will replace it with a new one...
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And billions of people think a old beardy dude created the universe but it dont make it so...
trollisms...
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Before you return, you can always try this
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts&feature=search_result
Install and set Window Animations to fast & Transition Animations to fast also.
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Ok ill try it, but ill take it in the morning see what they say ...
Competition: how many times can you lock the screen with one hand without pressing the volume button!
Winner gets a 4-am wake-up call when the battery is recharged.
The second place gets an e-mail written by my pants when the screen-lock fails to turn on, following a headset call.
Third place will get a special mod that allows you to start your audiobook player with the headset button with the screen-lock on, and the screen off (a usefull feature when your hands are not free).
Just kidding, there is no such mod, the third place gets nothing.
What annoys me the most? Appart from pressing volume button while locking screen, its the fact that all my callers are complaining that they hear echo... going to exchange the phone today...
Non of the other things bothers me... I usually sleep very hard, so 4am wakeup tone that my phone is being fully charged cannot wake me up neither my girlfriend was complaining...
I had nothing to report as nothing annoyed me till today unless when I plugged my Headphone and made a call. The Volume in a call through the headphone at even maximum level is pathetically low.But that is not the case with Earpiece or Bluetooth headset.
Regards.
What I hate about the device?Well,I wanted to buy a Tegra 2 tablet.After buying the GS2 everything else seemed slow.
Noons and people with no life being able to make threads
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What I hate about the device?Well,I wanted to buy a Tegra 2 tablet.After buying the GS2 everything else seemed slow.
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+ 10000
I can't use my x10 anymore without being pissed
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1. I can live with 1,5 second delay when waking up phone, but home button lag is killing me. I know, this ks because of voice command "feature", but what about users like me who will never "talk" to their phones (unless being completely drunk)?
2. The famous game freezes. I bought this phone mainly for gaming, but they are simply freezing or crashing to home screen. On all (official) currently available firmware versions. Thanks to LitePro, now i can play with no problems.
I had few more very annoying problems, but thanks again to LitePro who ironed them out. Also i had to delete most of notification sounds. No need to explain why
I know, my first impresions with this phone wasn't very good and i said some bad words, but thanks to this great community - i love my SGS2 now
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Lol i have never heard this fully charged sound. *g*
But the batterie drain is really heavy. Maybe i buy an extended akku.
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Competition: how many times can you lock the screen with one hand without pressing the volume button!
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Every single time (see attached).
The thing that annoys me most is the same thing that annoyed me about the HD2.... whining users that complain about utterly ridiculous things on xda, opening a new thread every time they come up with some vague idea of something their phone can't do. If you want a cup of tea, BUY A TEASMAID!!!
i never hit the volume button yet i use the physical lock button
Matter of handling I suppose .oO(you're not handling it right! xD)
What annoys me is the lack of 2.3.4 update (not that I need much from it, but it feels like they're not working on it as much as on the I9000) and the lack of proper source (everyone uses the binary kernel cause the source one isnt as stable even after padding)
oh and the reason why they've hidden hw accelerated disk encryption, or the lack thereof
The fact that Driving Mode randomly turns itself on, leading to excruciating embarrassment when an incoming text or email is read out at full volume in a public place.
the wifi sharing battery drain that starts randomnly...
Lazy gits that whine and ask about the yellow triangle without even searching the threads
The stock email app, which is the only free one which works with exchange doesn't request the keyboard to bring up the spelling suggestion list - so only the samsung keyboard works with this, or using perfect keyboard and having it turned on permanently.
The stock music app hasn't been thought out well enough in that it allows you to access music bypassing the library list. This of course means using the back button never returns you to this list and they never thought to put a link in the menu to get to the music library (such a simple fix!) - solved that with player pro though
Stock SMS app not allowing you to scroll up through the messages you are replying to whilst you are replying - of course handcent gets around that.
Touchwiz launcher - can't set a different home screen, folders created in the app drawer and then dragged onto one of the home screens are now 2 seperate folders, rather than a hard link - meaning you update one, and the other also needs updating.... Thanks to Go Launcher Ex this is no longer an issue.
Tbh hardware wise it's spot on - it's just that Samsung seem to have rushed the software out.
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Noons and people with no life being able to make threads
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I found a fix for you problem: don't read those threads and don't post replies...
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What annoys me the most? The fact that I bought this phone expecting a huge improvement on battery life compared to my old phones. I'm annoyed at myself for being this naive.
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I found a fix for you problem: don't read those threads and don't post replies...
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That doesn't fix the problem of the forums becoming diluted with repeated requests. You've just suggested ignoring the problem.
i am "annoyed that wifi-sharing" eats 15% of my battery (but i still make it trough the day without problems.
i never pressed the volume button while lokcing the phone and i have never ever heard a charged noise oO
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That doesn't fix the problem of the forums becoming diluted with repeated requests. You've just suggested ignoring the problem.
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What requests? Nobody is requesting anything buddy. We're discussing things about the phone that annoy us. If you dont like this topic, try another one.
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What annoys me the most is that this phone is so nice,i can hardly seperate myself from it.
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Anyone else have problems with it takes litle long for the sensor to show phone again after have talk? Mine is quite slow when i talk and say i have to use the pad as i talk then it tskes seconds for it to show.
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yes it happens on mine too.......i think all devices have same problem
the sensor isn't actually slow it samples at a quite fast rate compared to other sensors. I think it's a software bug.
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yes it happens on mine too.......i think all devices have same problem
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Why is a 0.5-second delay a problem? I like that I actually have to look at the phone before I press some weird on-screen setting that I don't know
I hope someone would find a fix for this, I come from an iPhone and the sensor was way more sensitive.
However, for me, it's not a major issue.
Yeah I'm constantly getting hung up on by iphone users, its way to sensitive.
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I hope someone would find a fix for this, I come from an iPhone and the sensor was way more sensitive.
However, for me, it's not a major issue.
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the sensor isn't actually slow it samples at a quite fast rate compared to other sensors. I think it's a software bug.
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i think so too. it is definitely a software bug.
i hate it so much.. when i get an unwanted call (or any other)> i answer> realize it is useless> and want to just hang up> but when i remove the phone from my face it doesn't wake up at all... for me to disconnect the phone, i have to manually wake up the screen with home or power button and then press the End Call key!!!!!!!!!!
FRUSTRATING! I hope there is a fix soon!
same here, too slow to wake atleast i find it slow compared to the iphone 3g i used till date
You know, Samsung probably made it like this on purpose..
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You know, Samsung probably made it like this on purpose..
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probably but there needs to be a way to fix it
i have few seconds delay, so i have to hint people nearby don't talk anything yet before it really hang up, as annoying as the wake up lag i have to wait few seconds just to see the clock.
Imho it's a feature, not a bug. If the sensor is too sensitive, it turns the screen on even with slight movements of the phone during the call. HD2 had exactly this problem, and I hanged up the call with my ear several times. So I'm actually happy that SGS2 waits a bit longer to clear things up.
Also if you just want to hang up, you can use power button for that (without turning the phone off), there is a setting for it in well .. settings.
Yuuuuup definately a problem! No one cant say otherwise. Annoying as well :[email protected]
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Sensor sampling is faster but delay on the tilting is there for obvious reasons.