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Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem, however have been using advanced task manager and it seems to help. I know rooting is supposed to be better with autokiller, but I believe rooting invalidates your warranty? Also, when I reboot my phone I have about 150mb free, but after a days use using adv task man I only have 55ish.
Anyhow in all I am happy with the phone, just need to work on the gps and lag.
Btw, how do I figure out my firmware number?
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in settings, about, and somewhere down the line.
You should be really restrictive when killing processes. Use the ignorelist for just about everything that might be used somehow by something.
Example, start the camera and it can take 2 - 4 sec to be ready to shoot. Have it idling in the background and its up in a split second. This goes for everything.
The onlu thing I kill is games, market and some other useless stuff i tend to run sometimes. Remember: you dont need a lot of free memory, for a quick phone you need your often-used-apps idling and loaded in mem.
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Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem
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Similar to my imrpessions in the first days. Screen is outstanding, the only reason I keep wanting to keep the phone. Swype is nice but didn't get used to it.. still type faster on my Nokia E72...but that is a matter of practicing.
GPS.. *sigh*. No comments. It is useless.
Also the lag was annoying but I won't complain much on that since I never tried any of the unofficial fixes.... still, out of the box it is a problem, definitely something Samsung didn't polish well enough.
Plenty of lag and memory fixes available.
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is lag really a major issue out of the box?
yeah theres a decent amount of lag out of the box, but TONS of fixes available
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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yeah come on !! what lag ?? I didn't see any thread talking about lag, any video .. nothing
There are lag fix but it is not to fix the lag ... as it doens't exist
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The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
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Yes. Buy it (ultimate Juice). You won't be let down.
AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
Sure. There are lag fixes. And you can always buy an external GPS unit for only 150€ or so.
I just have the nasty habit of presuming I won't need to fix anything right after unpackaging and booting or pay more after spitting out 599€ for a "cutting edge" smartphone.
Customers... always so ungrateful and never pleased. /spit.
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About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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It also varies based on your applications though. With some applications running, phone can't sleep properly.
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About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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I really hope your right, as mine is still not great tbh.
I will try ultimate juice to see if that helps..
Should I be doing anything in specific in the charge cycles? i.e letting it fully discharge, or anything else?
Ref Lag;
I did experience it out of the box, but only after using lots of multiple apps. I found that task killer fixed the problem, and I have not tried any other fixes.
However I still cant understand my RAM usage.
150MB free on boot, which then decreases to 130MB after say an hour.
2+ Hours later I am down into the 90's...and after 8+ hours into the 60's.
This is using task killer regular enough...so not sure why it happens.
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.
Mine could sometimes take up to 10 seconds to open the phone app on the stock rom. Very annoying. Especially when there's an incoming call and you can't answer because the answer key just won't show up. Now I'm running the jg5 rom and samset 1.6 rom. And everything is lightning fast now. Faster than my iphone 4.
Using the Galaxy S as well for a while now. The phone is AWESOME. After the lagfix this is the best android device I ever messed with. I thought I would want to change the launcher but after getting used to the iPhone like design, touchwiz is actually one of the best skins I have seen. Rotates both ways, you can change the order of the homescreens easily and you can have as many as you want up to 7. It offers some cool widgets just like Sense does and the menu can be all reorganized and not be mixed up by alphabetical order. Even the built in keyboard is awesome for me. Fits with the rest of the design and its multitouch enabled. And you have Swype preinstalled if you want that as well. The camera is awesome and despite the lack of flash you can still take some really decent pics with this if there is some light around.
The screen is just on the sweet spot. 4" with Super AMOLED. Im in heaven really lol.
Even my mum that is a complete iPhone addict is now surrendered to this phone capabilities. Nice job by samsung and obviously by the genius who developed the lagfix and 1 click root.
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So i just got my galaxy s and there doesnt seem to be any lag at the mo.
Why is my baseband 19000nejg1?
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
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It's worth noting though that Beowulf_pt complained that reports of poor GPS and lag were the things holding him back from purchasing this phone (so I'm honestly wondering why he purchased the phone in the first place). Especially since purchasing it every post he has made seems to have been complaints about the GPS..
The Lag exists, but it doesn't make the phone unusable. Agreed it could be better, but whether it really affects anyone is questionable. It may be mostly fixable by switching scheduler and caching better. Remember, phones such as the Nexus one might be better currently, but they also shipped with a deluge of problems which are now fixed too.. Even the iPhone 4 did..
The GPS does have obvious issues (the accuracy indicator is still wrong, which to me suggests software), but other than the GPS, I am still happy with the phone. Also remember the battery issues depend on what you are running (some apps don't let the phone sleep properly).
I'm still happy to give them until Froyo to fix it. If Samsung doesn't fix it properly by then (and instead does something silly like tell us the "signal strength indicators are wrong"), then I'll try to get a refund. But at the moment, I'm willing to give them a chance.
It is surprising to read people who have no gps problems or lag issues straight out of the box, either they are very lucky and have bought fully functionaly sgs or are quite used to devices which take awhile to respond (I think it is the latter)!
Certainly there are fixes out there to improve the gps and lag issues but none have completely resolved the problem. I'm using JM5 which is working brilliantly and gps seems to work quite accurately especiallywith co-pilot no-other fix has been applied (to scared to!), the lag has also improved significantly but it does occassionaly freeze.
I'm also willing to give the boys at sammy a chance till 2.2 version is out or till Desire HD is launched, which ever comes first. Till then this is the best device out there inmho.
I too didn't notice any lag, until I installed the fixes, then the lag was noticeable as the phone was MUCH smoother.
Has anyone noticed this? Wherever there's something to scroll, web pages, menus etc., the motion is sort of stuttering as long as you keep your finger on the screen. When you release your finger and "throw" the page, it goes smooth. This makes me think that it's not a graphic performance issue, but it's more like if the resolution of the capacitive touch screen was lower than the actual display. I hope I'm wrong and it's software related...
Software related, doesn't always do this.
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On second thought I am not sure, sometimes it does this really badly and other times it is completely smooth. If we didn't have full resolution touch you would notice it on a multi touch test app.
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I think I have found the cause.
Cpu scaling!
Lock setcpu to 1 ghz and it is much smoother.
What is happening is the cpu speed keeps throttling and jumping back to full speed causing problems
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Actually...still unsure...ideas anyone?
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"Problems" with CPU speed jumping up and down? Those are not problems but a design decision (jury is still out on whether the implementation is done right) to save energy.
Of course you can crank everything up to the max and never put peripherals or the CPU to sleep, but please don't start complaining when your battery runs flat before the day is done.
They set the ramp down cpu speed timer far too short. This can be modded in a kernel anyway.
Using a multi touch test we have at minimum 600x300 touch resolution, way more then enough to have lag free scrolling.
There's an acer android phone out with only about 32x 24 touch resolution. They manage
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I don't think it's related. I'm experiencing this even with the cpu locked in performance mode. On the other hand, using a multitouch test app, I was able to move a pointer pixel by pixel at what seemed to be the screen's full resolution, so touch res is not the cause.
It's quite annoying cause even if you want to launch a fast scroll of, say, your contact list, you get that initial ugly small stutter... when browsing the internet this ruins the experience even more, since you are likely to keep your fingertip on the screen more.
Dunno about you guys but uninstalling Gesture Search by Google fixed it for me.
Never had that on my phone...
Bump... am I the only one bothered by this?
Am I?...
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Am I?...
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Could be, I had a HTC HD2 and it suffered from that problem alot. numerous videos have been posted on youtube because of it as well.
One possible way of minimizing the problem is to electrically discharge your screen, by putting an electric conductor, such as metal on it to remove and negative/postive ions still hanging around. Read that up somewhere and it somewhat helped my HD2.
Personally i have only experienced once on my Sgs and have not been able to replicate it since.
If you have big fingers that could also be a problem as the touch sensor can't decide on where to locate your finger...
Thank you for your answer! The electrical conductor you mentioned should go somewhere to discharge though... I can't walk around with a ground wire hanging from my phone all the time Plus, I really believe it's software. I know it always goes there but... iPhones have similar technology but they always scroll smooth. maybe it's interpolation we're missing here.
Btw I have particularly small hands!
Discharging it only has to be done only when the problem seems to be worsening. just try not to place your entire thumb on it but rather use the tips of yours fingers, that way it doesnt jerk.
I have to say this problem is pretty consistent, hence not worsening (or improving) whatsoever in any circumstances. It's just not fluid, ah my Touch HD used to be, but that was because of poor GPU (driver); we know that can't possibly be the case here, and as a matter of fact, regardless of load, stuff in the background etc, it's there all the time.
But as soon as you release the fingertip, the "inertial" part of the scrolling just goes as smooth as possible.
So I'd dismiss the electrostatic explanation, it seems like it was a non-interpolated low touch resolution... except that it's not...
Hi Folks, I have noticed the same problem running eclair 2.1 with Ryan's one click lag fix applied (the lag fix did speed it up quite a bit too!). It seems to do it after coming out of 'sleep' mode i.e when I wake it up from blank 'screen saver'. After a few scrolls or taps it starts to smoothen out a bit, but still not as I would like it to be.... Just my observations and sorry I can't offer up any Solutions... Any word if 2.2 update will make things better? Also, does anyone know when the update will hit Australia?
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
xan said:
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
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'smoothing of touch input'? could you please expand on this?
BTW - I Never owned an iFone, and don't really go for it's comunistic ways... (although some people take comfort in it! )
Hm, touchscreen sends raw data to driver (noisy, with peaks) to driver. Driver cleans and interprets them.. (unless its done in TS firmware)
I think that more cleaning and smoothing at this stage would result in smother scrolling, but not-so-precise tracking (when drawing, etc).
I'm just speculating here, because I have no real knowledge about this.
OK... Although it seems like there is a delay in reloading to short term memory when coming out of hibernation? Would this sound like a place to start looking? if so, anyone have any ideas on how to manipulate this function?
My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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I cannot recall whether or not FlyX includes the build.prop modifications or not, if not you would definitely want to make those. Other than that the only other thing I would recommend is giving MinFreeManager a shot, it changes the "low memory" requirements for the built in memory manager (task manager) of android. If configured properly it can really make a difference in both battery life and performance (not speed, but responsiveness). It does not do it for you, it lets you set the fields, so learn how to do it first, it varies depending on your use of your phone, I don't run any facebook or other streaming applications so my settings are 6,8,16,60,60,150 but this could vary greatly, and may adversely affect others, so read up on the app in the market.
Again that app will improve responsiveness, in that it will give you less delay when swyping the screen in the UI and such, in that your phone does not have to kill a task to free up memory to complete the next task, it will not improve benchmarks, at the same time, poor memory management will give you poor performance in real world use but may not affect your benchmarks, another reason that benchmarks are poor ways of measuring performance.
Outside of that, what it really comes down to is our Android systems need hardware acceleration... Google really needs to get of there... well... you know... and get with the game here, based off the recent discussion and their advisement to manufacturers to hold of the release of tablets until the next android release, I am hoping they are currently implementing it, but without GPU hardware acceleration in the UI and web browser, we will constantly have the appearance of choppiness and the illusion of poor performance even on our overqualified phones... it is one area where I am sad to say the iPhone has us beat... very sad to say... as a matter of fact, I just washed my mouth out with a bit of soap...
EDIT: a good example of how well that application worked for me over actual "tasks killers" on the market such as task killer and such... before having this app installed and configured, a quick investigation of "settings, applications, running services" and viewing the available memory, it would display "Avail:16MB+98MB in ##" after having this app and having it configured it displays "Avail:72MB+116MB in 26" I am assuming my poor UI responsiveness was due to the first of the two numbers...
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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no problem, yeah, the iPhone has had GPU hardware acceleration in the UI since it came out, they structured their OS around it, Google chose otherwise, and I can only hope they regret that decision now... but hopefully they will make amends for that...
just make sure you read the post referenced in the app itself. It is written for the HTC Hero which only has 288MB of Ram as opposed to our 512MB Ram, but it still basically applies.
Keep in mind:
It does not automatically set on reboot until you tell it to, do not tell it to until you are sure the settings you have set do not mess with anything.
You probably will not notice a difference for about an hour... at least that's how long it took for me to truly notice a difference... I'm not really sure why, it apparently took that long for the priorities to take affect, and get the right processes killed, etc., etc. After that, especially later that day I was truly noticing a difference, especially in typing... I have always had a delay when typing on this phone, and that seems to be gone now...
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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Sounds good, your welcome and good luck!
If those settings work out for you without any problems, you'll probably want to up them a bit, it might say aggressive, but they are only so aggressive... If it makes a big difference for you then stick with them, if you still have slow down, and you are running what you described before, you can probably get away running settings similar to what I posted, just don't have them set on boot just in case, if they don't work out you can always set them lower or back to a preset. It is definitely something you can expiriment with, if worst comes to worst, you can always reboot, but as long as you don't touch the first 4 values, you won't mess anything up, the worst that you will do with the last 2 is temporarly screw up facebook sync. or something similar, and really you can get away with changing the 4th value to, it just has a chance of affecting more things, but I doubt you'll end up affecting anything with values around 50 anyway. Like I said, experimenting never hurts, slow phones do... Just keep an eye on it ;-) good luck again.
To add a little correction.if you are running fly x then you are not running 2.3.15 you are running the earlier related release it Is based on. Even if you did have2.3.15 before installing it fly x over writes the system to the files it uses. All roms do. Do you actually have like 2.3.9 I think
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It does say 2.3.9. I inquired about this before because I used teamblackhat to get .15 and the system never seemed to change to .15 every time I tried to download it... I guess that's why, because of flyx...
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After reading Captian Taco's post I was eager to try it out, and its actually making a big difference =D thanks!
Yes it is... its been running much smoother and more responsive all day. Thanks again captaintaco... (boy thats kinda funny to type...)
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Hey don't thank me, thank the creator of MFM, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first to discover the power of Androids integrated minimum memory management, if not the first. Just glad to share my discovery of his discovery haha. But yea, to be honest I don't even use a custom Rom anymore, it runs so quick just having that (thought it works even better in conjunction with your standard simplistic task killer such as "advanced task killer" just to kill apps in the foreground after you are done with them, since many apps don't include a way of closing themselves out...
I still try the custom Roms out and play around with them for the hell of it, but as for right now, I rely heavily on corporate integration, and most of the good blurless Roms remove features required for true and proper corporate sync, such as calender sync and the like... and I just don't like touchdown pro... So this helps me out greatly... remove some bloat, throw launcher pro on there, and get this fix fired up, phone runs like a dream... now if only they could get exchange active sync running like it was on Sense... best implementation I have seen of Exchange active sync so far... I do miss that...
Well after all the advice I ended up installing the zapx rom last night. Wow! It is sooo fast... everything just responds and reacts so much faster than before. I suggest installing zapx to anyone. Best rom so far I think...
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Have anyone tried WidgetLocker? What are your impressions on it? I've read is kinda slow on some phone, but what about on the Epic?
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Have anyone tried WidgetLocker? What are your impressions on it? I've read is kinda slow on some phone, but what about on the Epic?
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I purchased it shortly after I got my Epic, and after using a warez version for a while. It's pretty great, and isn't slow. It's not 100% seamless, but it's close enough to where you won't notice. The ability to hide the notification bar is great for privacy, its sliders are better than stock, and of course the ability to add widgets is nice. I'd take a screenshot, if I still had it set up (I haven't since I became a ROM developer ).
I also would like to say it is a very nice program and it is not slow runs great, I like the way you can have custom unlock open program sliders for fast access.
Cool, thanks for the replies
Its real nice, u can do a lot with it. The dev is good with support and its not slow.
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I read somebody saying that widgetlocker increased his battery use and therefore was good but gave him trouble because of short battery life. It could be a single case or it could be a issue. What is you guys experience who used it?? Did you notice any increased battery drain??
I love widgetlocker! Total +1 for me. It cause a little slowdown back on my 528 mhz cliq, but even on that horrible phone it wasnt that bad. On the epic I agree its 99% flawless. If you go through the list of settings after buying it and set it up to your own personal specs, it dosen't use all that much battery.
As for the battery issue, Widgetlocker does cause a service to run all the time that it is enabled, but to be honest after looking at battery stats it dosen't use a whole lot over the course of a normal day. Especially not enough to be a dealbreaker unless your a total minimalist/battery nazi. The guy mentioned above probably have tons of other issues with his phone causing battery life to be ****ty IMO.
I recommend people set the "Root Bypass of 5 second rule" in the advanced options menu, then you dont have to run the icon in the notification bar all the time, nor do you have to use widgetlockers "homehelper" (If you never used it and have no idea what i'm talking about, no worries, just do this if you try it lol)
Other than that though it's great. Have had it on my Epic since day 1 when I installed my apps back. Always worked great. Updates have added some newer looks also. Tons of possibilities. Love love it.
Question for you guys I used it for awhile but even with the 5 sec root bypass it still took about 2-3 seconds for the lock to appear after waking my phone. You guys come across this?
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i use it and i havent had that problem. also if you want to theme your slider, there is a thread in the android theme section on how to do it.
So, even the the magical iPads homebutton is slower then the Galaxy S 2s one. Also when waking the device up! You will have to live with that. Also this is not a problem at ALL for me, I can not understand why people are always flaming about it.
Please tell me what you think. I know the video is useless, don't tell me that.
This video will fall on deaf ears for the Apple Fanboys I think... because your attachment is Flash and they probably can't view it.
This video clearly shows that Galaxy S2 isn't the only device that takes a second to wake up or return to home, which is nice and all. Still, coming from a HTC Desire, it does present an annoyance, as it's not something you expect from a device that costs that kind of money. I bet the Sensation wakes up instantly...
The thing that's even worse for me is the extra step that just shows a black screen with a clock, before the wallpaper kicks in. I know that's just because I'm using a stock ROM, but they should at least sort that out, because it really looks ugly, slow and cheap.
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This video will fall on deaf ears for the Apple Fanboys I think... because your attachment is Flash and they probably can't view it.
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I watched it on my iPad just fine.
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I watched it on my iPad just fine.
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You really want me to upload somewhere else than YouTube?
I know home button lags and that there is a wake-up lag on my SII, but i haven't been in a situation of life and death up till now to rely on home button to save my life. So i'm still cool with it, even though i would have liked the phone to perform faster.
apple falling down with releasing SGS2 ))
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Well the SGS 1 home button press is nearly instant when exiting from an application. So I expected the same from SGS 2. I'll flash it with cyanogen when I get my JIG to reset the counter. I hear it doesn't have the lag.
1-2 second lag also cannot accept is crazy...
Maybe this is why apple is suing Samsung. They even copied wake up lag. Lol. Seriously its not lag its the phone waking up from a lower clock speed while in sleep. Sure they could fix it but battery drain will be worse I think. My quad core i7 also has lag when waking up.
Thanks for sharing the video. I wonder if someone could show an HTC wake up I bet there is a small lag too
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Well the SGS 1 home button press is nearly instant when exiting from an application. So I expected the same from SGS 2. I'll flash it with cyanogen when I get my JIG to reset the counter. I hear it doesn't have the lag.
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Im using Cyanogenmod, and theres still "lag" if the device is in deep sleep.
But if you just lock the screen, and then unlocks, its instant.
As the first post, I think this is normal.
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You really want me to upload somewhere else than YouTube?
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LOL nice video, I never really understand when people said they have "wake-up lag" coming from an iPhone 4 it's pretty much the same. Maybe 2 seconds is too much but anything under 1 second is definitely how it should be.
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Maybe this is why apple is suing Samsung. They even copied wake up lag. Lol. Seriously its not lag its the phone waking up from a lower clock speed while in sleep. Sure they could fix it but battery drain will be worse I think. My quad core i7 also has lag when waking up.
Thanks for sharing the video. I wonder if someone could show an HTC wake up I bet there is a small lag too
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exactly... it takes a while waking your phone from deep sleep. u all should be happy u r having deep sleep. to prove this.... next time your charging your phone... press home button to wake the phone WOW it wakes up INSTANTLY ! haha
goodsmile said:
exactly... it takes a while waking your phone from deep sleep. u all should be happy u r having deep sleep. to prove this.... next time your charging your phone... press home button to wake the phone WOW it wakes up INSTANTLY ! haha
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By god its TRUE!!!!!!!
I honestly dont understand what the fuss is about with the home button lag and wake up lag, such a miniscule issue thats not worth getting upset for.
Can anyone exactly explain why this is frustrating or annoying ?
EarlZ said:
I honestly dont understand what the fuss is about with the home button lag and wake up lag, such a miniscule issue thats not worth getting upset for.
Can anyone exactly explain why this is frustrating or annoying ?
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Let's say you have 500ms delay after pressing the home button. In real life, the delay is much much longer but let's say 500ms. How many times do you press the home button in a day's use? I personally press it at least 300 times a day, actually much more times in a busy day, but let's say 300.
So 300 x 0.5 seconds: 150 seconds = 2.5 minutes of my life every single day is lost because Samsung can't code properly.
I've been using this phone for 2 months: 60 days. 2.5 minutes x 60 = 150 minutes of my life gone waiting so far. That's more than 2.5 hours in two months... Vanished.. Gone.. Just waiting for the home screen to appear, nothing else...
goodsmile said:
exactly... it takes a while waking your phone from deep sleep. u all should be happy u r having deep sleep. to prove this.... next time your charging your phone... press home button to wake the phone WOW it wakes up INSTANTLY ! haha
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Nothing wrong with deep sleep but it doesn't have to take 1.5 seconds. Deep sleep still means that RAM is refreshed, so it is not impossible to do this much faster. Waking CPU <10ms, restoring CPU state (reloading code etc) <100ms, so where is the time spent? The delays are probably related to other hardware like GPU etc since everything must be ready. But it is not impossible to do this faster.
This is not a big problem for me, but I cannot see any reason not to demand improvement.
EDIT: I'm talking about wake-up lag of course, probably a bit off-topic here...
There is no Homebutton-lag! It has to have a delay because on the standard Samsung rom it has to "wait" for a second press because they mapped an action to double pressing the homebutton. I don't know why you people can't understand this... On CM7 there isn't this lag because there is nothing mapped on double pressing the homebutton.
Oh and wakeup lag is a whole other story...
gvoima said:
Well the SGS 1 home button press is nearly instant when exiting from an application. So I expected the same from SGS 2. I'll flash it with cyanogen when I get my JIG to reset the counter. I hear it doesn't have the lag.
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It its so that the phone has enough time to detect a second click which its used for voice control. Find a room without the voice control installed and it won't have the exit lag.