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sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !

you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.

A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.

QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !

does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1

audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.

marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.

your movie should appear in the Gallery

twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?

audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.

flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1

audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...

Will rooting allow me to move apps to SD, or do I need to reflash ROM?

I've had my Evo 4G for almost a year now and I really havent felt the need to upgrade the ROM on it, which is surprising for me since I usually put a custom OS on my phones the day I buy them (coming from a windows mobile background) .
The only issue I have that I would like to rectify is app space. I keep getting the low disk space warning and telling me to remove apps.
I was wondering, if I root the device is there a way to push apps that do not have "move to SD" enabled over to the SD anyway? Facebook and Twitter for instance would be much better off on the SD since they build up huge data caches and need to be cleared all the time when on the phones memory.
Or, is there a way to re-size the phones memory allocations without doing a full re-flash if it's rooted?
Any thoughts/opinions are appreciated. Thanks!

You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove

If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well

pandamaja said:
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
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I tried that app a while ago and it really wasn't that big of a help. Certain apps (like Facebook and twitter) still could not be moved.
roids87 said:
If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
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Thanks! I will take a look at that. It may be just what I need.

If you root you can partition your sd card and use dta2sd and it will move all your apps to the extsd even ones with widgets it works great .
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Rooting your phone with a ROM that's at least 2.2 will allow for app2sd use, however, you do not have to ROOT to use app2sd. If you do not wish to ROOT your phone, You need to run at least stock version 2.2 to be able to use app2sd.
I had a HERO that ran 2.1 and app2sd did not work, then I got my EVO with 2.2 and app2sd worked fine. Neither the HERO or EVO were rooted at the time.
Also remember that some apps must stay resident to work and can not be moved to your sd. Many of the app2sd apps will show you what can and can't be moved.
Good Luck.....

Clean install with apps on SD?

So I've got the froyo now and had a problem and had to start over. Before the restart I had saved quit a few apps to my SD Card... clean install don't detect them. Do I need to just format card and reinstall from market or what?

I did a clean install too. Did you use titanium back to save the apps? Thats how I restored all my apps.

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I did a clean install too. Did you use titanium back to save the apps? Thats how I restored all my apps.
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No, I moved them to SD in the Settings>Applications>Manage Apps menu. Figured that would do it.

Why would you use apps2sd when link2sd exists?
It is far superior!
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rignfool said:
Why would you use apps2sd when link2sd exists?
It is far superior!
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I have to agree here. Check out my experience with apps2sd versus link2sd here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218518

However...
Link2sd now can't keep lib files on the sdcard thru a reboot...
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rignfool said:
However...
Link2sd now can't keep lib files on the sdcard thru a reboot...
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My lib files are still linked. but maybe thats the problem with my phone freezing 20 times a day now. IDK. Hopefully an update to the update will come soon cuz Im sick to death of it freezing.

I spent about 2 hours last night trying to get Link2SD to work on my flipside and could not. I followed the guide and set a main FAT32 partition and a secondary ext2 partition and the phone rejected and told me to make teh 2ndary FAT32 so i did that and then the phone rejecting it and said something else it.
Anybody care to explain how exactly they got this working? I tried searching through the main post but thats 100 pages of questions with few answers and I coudln't find anything that helped.

Mine was a hassle the first few times I tried on eclair as well. I just kept changing the size of the partition until finally it worked. I couldnt tell you the exact steps as it was long ago.

boazjuggalo said:
I spent about 2 hours last night trying to get Link2SD to work on my flipside and could not. I followed the guide and set a main FAT32 partition and a secondary ext2 partition and the phone rejected and told me to make teh 2ndary FAT32 so i did that and then the phone rejecting it and said something else it.
Anybody care to explain how exactly they got this working? I tried searching through the main post but thats 100 pages of questions with few answers and I coudln't find anything that helped.
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Completely reformat your card to fat32, then using partition magic, create the second partition as FAT. Put card in phone, reformat, run Link2SD, and reboot phone.
RESTART Link2SD and go hog wild moving your programs to sd card...
If you backed up ypur card to your pc, copy over the folders to the sd card.
I know reformatting is extra (uneeded?) Steps, but it worked juat fine for my wife's phone. A restart gives her almost 58 megs free...

SD Card Problems

Ok so I don't know if anyone else has had issues with their SD card since the update but I've been constantly having problems. When looking at my pictures i'm always gettin the "sd card not present." And I think it has been causing issues with me downloading and updating apps too. Anyone else been having these troubles and if so...any solutions? Please and thank you for any help.

Since my phone is rooted... and I have root explorer...
I know one of the problems you're having is the card is mounting itself read-only... no idea why...
Though since I figured that out... I have other problems...
I wish I could go back to eclair... it worked solo much better on this piece of ****
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Hmm, yea that's weird. I don't know why it does that either. But I agree...Eclair ran so much smoother. And I could install more apps on my phone...this thing has indeed been trash....

I had some similar errors, they seemed to be related to link2sd and the upgrade. I completely formatted my sd card, remade the link2sd partition, and reinstalled froyo directly instead of updating from eclair, and haven't had any problems since.

Reinstalled directly from where?? How???

Using RSD Lite, I flashed the Froyo sbf. Specifically, it's SAGE_U3_3.4.2-159.17_SecATT_SIGNATT_USASAGE02B25ND0ATTNA02E.0R_SAGEFRATT_P011_HWp4_1FF.sbf. There are a few links to it here on the forums, it's a fresh install of froyo instead of upgrading from eclair, you start with much more free space to work with. Updating the system apps will eat into it pretty quickly, but if you use Titanium Backup to cook the updates into the rom you can keep quite a bit of free space.

Been thru 3 sbf flashes... with link2sd... with apps2sd...
It still ****ing locks... it still ****ing freezes...
I hate being so close to new phones coming out...
Else I'd throw this thing thru the wall
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Yea I've flashed the sbf and i'm still having issues...

bakageta said:
Using RSD Lite, I flashed the Froyo sbf. Specifically, it's SAGE_U3_3.4.2-159.17_SecATT_SIGNATT_USASAGE02B25ND0ATTNA02E.0R_SAGEFRATT_P011_HWp4_1FF.sbf. There are a few links to it here on the forums, it's a fresh install of froyo instead of upgrading from eclair, you start with much more free space to work with. Updating the system apps will eat into it pretty quickly, but if you use Titanium Backup to cook the updates into the rom you can keep quite a bit of free space.
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How do you use Titanium Backup to "cook the updates into the rom?"

You'll need a registered version of Titanium Backup. If you haven't bought it already I really recommend it, it's the single most useful app I've had on android. Go into the backup/restore tab, scroll down and find the app that you updated. It'll be listed in red, meaning it's a /system app, but it'll say (update) next to it, indicating the update is on the internal storage. Long press it, and there will be an option that says something like "move update to /system" or similar. Press that, and it will remove the original version from /system, and move the update in it's place.
You can also move apps to /system this way, long press any normal app and there's an option for "convert to system app" that will move it over. I deleted a lot of the bloat apps, as well as all of the default ringtones, and had plenty of free space to move some of my most-used apps over to /system.
Right now, I have 26.1 MB free in /system, 60.5 MB free in /data, and something like 300 MB worth of apps on my second SD card partition.

Ok I'll try that using Titanium....did you delete the ringtones using Titanium or Root Explorer?

Man this crap somehow made my data worse...I deleted some apps and moved some to system and now I'm almost out of storage....Integrating the update into Rom screwed me up!

[GUIDE] Resolve Low Internal Space Issues

Well if you’re here you’ve probably gone and bought the ZTE Blade or one of its variants (Orange San Francisco, Dell XCD35 or the Idea Blade). You’ve probably been using it for a while now and I’m pretty sure you’ve come to that annoying moment when you download an awesome new app and get that pesky notification saying “Not enough memory”. Here’s a way to fix that problem albeit temporarily for rooted and non-rooted users alike
# Non Rooted Users:
First off, if you’re Android version says 2.1, it means you’ve got a Gen1 device. It’d be best top update it to a Gen2 device yourself using a TPT, or ask your manufacturer to do it for you. Now assuming you have a Gen2 device, i.e. your Android version says 2.2, this is how you go about getting space to install more apps.
-Once you install an app, open the settings menu
-Go to the “Applications” menu and select the “Downloaded” tab
-Select any application
-Keep in mind that this works only for applications that have been granted movability by their developer
-Android 2.2 onwards has an inbuilt option that allows users to move part of the app to the SD card. You should see an option saying “Move to SD Card”. If you do not see it, or it is grayed out, that means the developer has restricted the option. This is common for some apps like widgets
-Repeat for any number of apps you want.
Note : This provides only a little breathing space and allows you to squeeze in a few more apps. The root methods are far more effective. There's also an app called APP2SD to help with this on Google Play
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# Rooted Users
The following methods are only for rooted users. To check if your phone is rooted, download the Root Checker app from Google Play. Rooted users have two methods of increasing storage space: Apps2SD+ and A2SD.
Apps2SD+ is similar to the inbuilt option that comes with Android 2.2. However, this enables rooted users to move more of the app to the SD card and also move ANY application to the SD card irrespective of the developer’s restrictions. There are two things that must be kept in mind while using this method. One, widgets do not work if moved to the SD card, so refrain from doing that. Two, the SD card is read after booting, so moving too many apps to the SD card (75+) will cause the phone to hang a lot at boot and reboot several times. This is done using an app. I recommend "DroidSail SuperApps2SD''
A2SD is the process of partitioning the SD card and using it as phone storage. This is by far the best method to increase storage space as a 1GB partition allows you to install 500+ apps, the ease of use and performance aside. This is available for most ROMs if they support an sd-ext script. Partitioning the SD card can be done using Minitool Partition Wizard or by ClockworkMod Recovery. The recommended partition size is 1GB as this is more than enough. The swap should be kept at 0MB or if you use the phone for gaming, at 32MB. Once the memory card is partitioned, the apps along with all their data can be moved to this partition. This can be done by two ways. DarkTremor A2SD scripts for most ROMs, or S2E for CyanogenMod. This is very easy to use and having done it myself, I have 450 apps and the phone’s performance isn’t the slightest bit affected.
Partitioned and still no space? See this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933144
Good Luck installing those 500 apps and showing off with them

Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!

matt4321 said:
Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!
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Awesome tutorial!
+1.
Already knew this but good for other who don't know! :laugh:

DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!

Di0g0 said:
DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!
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Have u run the script?

QuantumFoam said:
Have u run the script?
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Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.

Di0g0 said:
Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.
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No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first

QuantumFoam said:
No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first
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The script doesn't work on my phone :X

Di0g0 said:
The script doesn't work on my phone :X
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Why not? Which rom?

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Why not? Which rom?
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Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....

Di0g0 said:
Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....
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Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon

QuantumFoam said:
Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon
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I installed via Clockwork recovery and I created the sd partition, maybe my partition is ext2 :x I don't know how to change to ext3!

"sdmove " and "sd watch" app this automatically detect the app which can move to sd
GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......

unmesh.ghodke said:
GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......
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Apps2SD by Sam Lu does the exact same thing
Also, I would appreciate it if you stopped posting as if your life is in danger with the bold red font
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I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?

vittal said:
I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?
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Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD

QuantumFoam said:
Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD
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Or link2sd which works pretty well.

hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?

insurgente said:
hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?
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Rooting and then using the solutions in the op seems to be the only plausible option.
However, you can try a cache cleaning app. Should give you 10-15MB depending on how many apps have cached data
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good app..