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alright everyone i havnt seen it yet so im gonna post it. if anyone is interested there is a petition circling around the internet to request moto to unlock the bootloader on all their devices that have it. i encourage everyone to sign up because unfortunately i dont see the bootloader getting unlocked any time soon. i hate to say it but thats the way i see it.
heres the link: http://www.petitiononline.com/motoulbl/petition.html
sign it!!
Signed It....
Is this the same one that went around when the X was first released?
Someone had created a petition then as well.
I have no idea. There's a lot because I think everyone with the x excluding maybe 2 people are irritated about. I would sign this one just in case
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I'm not sure what this will accomplish. Motorola is not a democracy. It's a business. Money is the only thing that will sway them. Of course there is always government regulation, but that is dangerous too.
I'm personally disappointed the bootloader is locked. The only recourse we have as consumers is to not spend our money.
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that or just return the phone and encourage people to not buy moto
What is the advantage for motorola to lock up the device? To me the bootloader never made any since.
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owenbeals said:
What is the advantage for motorola to lock up the device? To me the bootloader never made any since.
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Not saying that I agree with any of these, but possible reasons:
1) Reduce equipment failures (returns) due to bad custom software (Overclock, etc)
2) Protect Their software IP (Blur)
3) Keep custom software from doing unknown bad things on carrier networks.
4) Protect carriers ability to charge for things like WiFi access point, etc.
One thing to keep in mind here is that "we" are an extreme fringe group within the larger population of X owners. Even if these arguments or barriers ring true for us, they present enough of a 'deterrent' to the 'normal' user that they largely just leave it alone.
Okay, so I just came back from a weeks holiday and logged in.
I'm overwhelmed, bootloader unlocked, awesome!
But, are there any roms yet, or is there a post where a rom is being developed?
Thanks
Nothing yet, still some p-roms. Be patient I'm sure things will start popping up soon. Dev forum is going nuts though, I suggest you read up on some of the developments going on there.
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Official release of gb is not out yet. You can unlock your device and install a release from Asia for now.
It has bugs but there are fixes for them.
Probably no roms or kernels until official release and source code... Hang in there.... The atrix is about to get a whole lot better!
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I guess I will add my question here:
I recently bought an unlocked Moto Atrix. [I'm not sure if its 4G, it doesn't say so on the box]. I got the from Rogers working on it, MMS and everything else.
its Model: MB860
System Version: Version.4.2.1.1.MB860.Retail.en.FR
Android Version: 2.2.2
Built number: OLYEM_U4_2.1.1
I love the phone, everything's cool, except this Froyo doesn't have google contact groups in it. I read on forums, that Gingerbread has the option back. (i remember using HTC Dream, it had those functions).
So, at this point, what could be my options? OTA update is not available. Neither is there any update when I connect it to PC with moto software.
any suggestions or helpful comments?
THANK
This will be a hard one seeing as you bought the phone online or from a friend. Now, I know there are plenty of threads in development about upgrading to gingerbread. Also, to answer your first question, yes the atrix is 4g. Be very careful about upgrading. Doing something wrong is a very quick way to getting a very expensive paperweight.
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The forums before posting.
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Yea, I bought it used over kijiji. The phone is like new and was unlocked.
I guess, i'll wait some more time.. an update isn't really required.. and I love the phone as it is
Thank you for the kind response.
No problem. I've been reading about a lot of people bricking their phones because they don't do something right. If you do something, just read everything twice first. Good luck. And glad you love the phone, welcome to the atrix.
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really mate, I find it very useful.. I did have Verizon version, I just flashed the UK generic firmware and now it doesn't matter.
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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It would get a bit mad if every provider got his own board... I'm getting annoyed with all the verizon talk that's going on. But since a lot of things are universal I wouldn;t want the boards to get split up.
Just don't open threads that state that they are for the R800i or for the rogers version.
The reason why you find few useful info about the R800x is quite simple: nothing has happened: no root, no unlocked bootloaders, nada.
You USAns should exert real pressure on your carrier cartel so that you don't get different models per carrier instead of whining about other people discussing their phone.
Hey be happy you get Vanilla Android.
kidding yea it can be frustrating when the Rogers model launched I was frustrated because their was no information or anything about it here because the European model was already launched.
Give it some time it will all get sorted out soon besides there is nothing yet for the Verizon Play.
I expect root to arrive soon because most newer android handsets like the Droid3 haven't been rooted yet and even european and canadian plays can't be rooted at 2.3.3 unless you use the loophole through 2.3.2 but your device launched with 2.3.3 so that is where the problem is.
Are device came with 2.3.2 thats how lame we are
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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Nice, listen I don't bag on your country I just find it a little odd other divices have Verizon sup forums but not the play if you have nothing nice to say then dont
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There isn't any because there is nothing you can do for it presently? But I understand your frustration, going through hundreds of threads that is irrelevant to yourself is a huge waste of time.
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Development is off to a slower start for the VZW Play but it will pick up eventually.
Just be thankful the members of this forum aren't always saying "Search before posting noob!" like the rest of the forums out there.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread
Ya I go into the android development section only to check the r800x root thread to see if there is an update, but I don't mind having a combined board. Just hope root comes soon.
We do not need a separate forum for one model of the Xperia Play.
The only real difference between the Verizon model and the rest is GSM and CDMA.
Verizon's model came with 2.3.2 on it but there is something blocking the Gingerbreak exploit from working, All you can do it be patient and hope that the Verizon versions see's some attention.
You cant go into every thread demanding an answer or wanting something outrageous to be done about the phone. Doing that will just piss off current Dev's and could ultimately hurt it for everyone.
Just sit back, relax, have fun with your phone, donate to help convince the devs to help us out, or complain. your call, but the last option will just get people ignoring you.
hi everyone, so i recently saw motorola razr m. the thing is, it had motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it was running jellybean. just the markings were a bit curious, if someone can shed some light on what it was. thanks !
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hi everyone, so i recently bought a second hand motorola razr m. the thing is, it has motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it works totally fine, gsm unlocked and its running jellybean. everything runs as it should, just the markings are a bit curious. ive attached a pic to see if someone can shed some light on what it is. thanks !
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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yea i saw that too. but that doesn't really tell me anything apart from the fact that other phones like mine were also sold(which i already knew).
It would be best to just drop the subject. You have something rare, and if you want to keep it, I would keep it quiet. The guys on the Motorola forum are launching a pretty big investigation into this. I would delete your pic and edit your OP. Don't get me wrong, I DO NOT condone illegal activity, but there is a reason these are out in the open...
Regardless of the circumstances surrounding where or how he got the phone, there ought to be someplace where this guy can get answers as to its origin or what it is exactly without everybody overreacting.
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It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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cellzealot said:
It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
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thank you! and btw, that wasn't me who posted in the official forums lol. thats the lase place i would think of posting if i had a prototype haha.
sloosecannon said:
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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thank you! and yea, i agree.
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
jco23 said:
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
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uh, actually im pretty sure he is telling the truth. its sort of a Pakistani craigslist.
RSD is proprietary software, owned by Motorola. While I know it's very easy to find online, it's not intended for public use. The rules of this site forbid discussion of software installation or use unless that software is distributed by Motorola or one of its partners.
That pretty much sums it up. Had he come to xda, he'd have gotten help. He didn't seem too open to helping the Motorola guys out though, so they didn't help him. Don't see why he would lie about that, he's just a poor guy who wants his confidential Motorola property to work for him... By asking the people that someone stole it from... Yeah...
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guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
dasche said:
guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
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Nope. Since it's factory unlocked, you should be able to install TWRP and go about flashing whatever you want. It might be a wiser choice to buy a regular handset, since you want have Motorola property all over the front.
I get that it will have an unlocked bootloader and such. But does the release of this mean no one will bother with unlocking the non dev version. Because id really like me a custom rom.
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As of now beanz said that only safe strap will be worked on for the non dev edition . which means only custom tw Roms. No kernels, no aosp. No one mentioned the possibility of bootloader unlock, as he mentioned time after time to wait for Dev edition.
Hope that answers your question
I could not wait for a phone that I all ready like... but that being said I wonder if Knox will be on the dev edition? A asop note??? Would be lame!
damn this sucks. the note 2's bootloader was unlocked within a few weeks of release.
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As of now beanz said that only safe strap will be worked on for the non dev edition . which means only custom tw Roms. No kernels, no aosp. No one mentioned the possibility of bootloader unlock, as he mentioned time after time to wait for Dev edition.
Hope that answers your question
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But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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limited?? Why
hsj1906 said:
But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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It will be limited because not as many devs will have a DE version of this phone. They might be able to port some roms but it won't be anything close to the note 2 community
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so why will this bootloader never be unlocked if the note 2 took very little time to get unlocked?
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so why will this bootoader never be unlocked if the note 2 took very little time to get unlocked?
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Well, the note 3 just happens to have a chastity belt of a bootloader which is also guarded by bastard of a shot gun called knox.
Who's to say any tampering with the boot wont trigger knox and void us all to warranty hell.
I was looking forward to using an unlocked bootloader just to get the kernels ect, but I come from the Droid Bionic so im fairly use to using safestrap.
If I can get the bloat gone, deodexed, with a few cpu scripts ill be happy.
Well I giess id be happy with some TW kit kat roms. As long as it imprives battery life and rids the rom of all un-nessesities.
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Wish I knew about how the bootloader was screwed. I Purchased 2 note 3's at full retail, and sold both of my note 2's, only to find out about the bootloader issue after it was all done. I had been so busy at work I didnt have time to research the note 3 very much. I just assumed it would be similar to the note 2 bootloader. This may be what causes me to leave vzw. I hate that they refuse to allow me to use my phones the way I want.
Your departure will not be noticed. Should probably research first before spending 1500 dollars.
If your looking for a few investment ideas with no research first, I got a few ideas.
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worm- said:
Your departure will not be noticed. Should probably research first before spending 1500 dollars.
If your looking for a few investment ideas with no research first, I got a few ideas.
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I bet you feel better about yourself after being rude for no reason.
The note 2 was never intended to be unlocked by Samsung. Adam outler and the xda guys just happened to find a easy way to unlock. Of course once Sammy figured out how they did that, they had to patch that hole and make it harder for devs.
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I thought about turning my 3 in to get the DE version but since safe strap looks like it'll be a go soon I'm not. I think if you use touch wiz roms there's really no need to with the New development on safe strap
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Anyone that buys a phone with no research, at full price, and just expects it to all come together like the previous model is an idiot.
You make your bed, lie in it.
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worm- said:
Anyone that buys a phone with no research, at full price, and just expects it to all come together like the previous model is an idiot.
You make your bed, lie in it.
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You sound like a people person, a real joy to hang out with.
More of a realist that doesn't bull**** and gives it to you straight. Probably should research before you press buy on a whim.
I've havw two upgrades on a Verizon Employee account, I get an upgrade every 10 months and yet still haven't just went and blown money just to blow it. Clearly you can afford to spend 1300$ no problem, but don't come here whining because you just expected something.
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worm- said:
More of a realist that doesn't bull**** and gives it to you straight. Probably should research before you press buy on a whim.
I've havw two upgrades on a Verizon Employee account, I get an upgrade every 10 months and yet still haven't just went and blown money just to blow it. Clearly you can afford to spend 1300$ no problem, but don't come here whining because you just expected something.
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At no point did I "whine", I stated my situation. I also never said I needed my exit from vzw to be noticed, or that it was anyone's fault other than my own. You just seem to have a need to be negative towards me and my situation. Which, from the beginning I said was my own fault, and that I didnt have time to research because I had been very busy at work. and you immediately began talking down. Realist or not, your still being a rude for no reason. Do we know each other in real life? have I offended you in the past? I dont understand why you have such animosity towards me.
I have been doing 80+ hour work weeks for the past month, and wanted to purchase the phones as a reward to myself, and my wife who starts a new job on monday. I had experience with the note line, and it was an excellent product. So I thought / assumed I would have a similar experience with this product. why that offends you? I have no clue. but by all means, lose as much sleep as you need to over the situation.
Just relax buddy the phone will be unlocked soon enough
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