Besides dropping my phone a few too many times, I recently got my phone a little wet (on scale of 1 to 10, 10 being submerged, I would say this water contact was 3).
After letting the phone dry overnight and performing a soft reset , I now have lost the use of the left button on face (Above TALK button)and the multi button( a good name for this button escapes me).
So I tried a hard reset and the HTC ROM upgrade hoping some magic would fix this button. No magic. Any ideas?
Michael
Probably should have let your phone dry out a bit longer. Putting it in the oven on it's lowest setting for a few hours works too, if you happen to ever do it again, but I guess that isn't going to help you right now. If that's the only function you lost then I would concider myself lucky, especially since you can use the bottom task bar button to do what you would use that button for most of the time anyway.
sweet jesus, this is horrible :O
good luck with your device...
Remove the battery and sim card. Look at the horizontal strip where the sim card goes... the strip should be white. If it isn't, then the water has damaged your device. A continued "drying out" may restore the circuits.
Ok, im going to start not from the beginning beginning, but from where problems started.
Friday night, went out, I was writing an sms when somebody pushed me and i dropped my wiz, i picked it up, to find that the battery was gone, nowhere to be found, i did find the cover tho. i tried to look for the batt, but i was in the middle of the club so it wasn't that easy.. I knew that a friend of mine had a spare one so i didn't worry that much.
Sunday I got the replacement, tried it, no luck, it ran out i thought, but when i tried to charge it, nothing happened. Buying a new one is not that easy when you are in Argentina, and they are expensive, so i decided to jump sart it. good news: it worked, i could turn on the phone, so the battery is fine. bad news: it still doesn't want to charge!
I previously had problems with the usb, and i had to have it soldered again, pretty strong, but I thought that might be the problem again, so i disassembled my wiz. new problem: the power button broke, the tiny, tiny black piece fell off, AND I LOST IT! DOH!
Anyways, the usb is still soldered pretty strong, i don't think its gonna go loose again, so thats not the freaking problem!
So now, instead of the initial no-charge problem, i have a disassembled wizard, that won't charge the goddamn battery, AND a broken power button (tried to glue it, but fell off again and thats when i lost the piece).
Regarding the button, i've studied my options, what would you recommend and how would you do it?
option 1: turn on the phone with the soft reset hole, and remap the screen on/off function to another button.
option 2: replace the power button internal piece with the one from the voice command button (i never use it). i've taken a look and they seem to be the same, but i don't know if taking it off and soldering it back would work..
anyways, that leaves me again with my initial problem, and i do have an hypothesis. I THINK (because I THINK i remember this happening to me before), that the battery won't start charging until windows has started, and the jump star power the battery has is not enough to get it started (tried to tape it and leave it for a while to see if it charged a bit more, but didn't work, the phone turns on but goes out when loading, and since i've my wiz pretty loaded it takes its time to load).
So to try this out i would need a way to charge the battery manually, and i don't have access to another wiz to have it charged (my friend had a spare batt because his wiz is broken).
So, if you have a solution to this, ANY different solution, or even an IDEA, please give me a hint!
For what i've read, this are common problems, so there must be something out there.
Man, that's a bad thing
I'll try to help you as much as I can.
You are right about Wiz only start charging when it's on. After my N78 was stolen and I went back to the Wizard, the battery was without any charge for months... I plugged it and no red LED... Turned it on and, bingo, red LED and charging!
The voice command and the on/off buttons are the same, so (in theory) it would work 100% IF you were able to change their places (at least for me, it is impossible to do manually, never found any good equip here =\ )
With a lot of patience (and a small soldering iron) I would try to take the voice comm button off and place it where the on/off was.
For the battery, maybe someone here can point if there is a "battery charger" standalone device, or such a thing...
Good luck man
hey thanks for the quick reply!
i'm not thinking of doing it myself, i'm not not that precise nor is my solder, but i know a guy, same dude that fixed my usb. I like that idea more than the other, but i guess that remapping the screen on/off and using the soft reset button would be much safer.. i haven't made up my mind about that yet.
Weir thing about MY wiz, at least thats what i think happened to me last time my battery was completely discharged, is that not only the device must be ON for it to charge, but it needs to have WINDOWS already loaded, i know for most devices it's not like that, but i think thats how mine works, or at least thats the only explanation i could find!
btw, i love your case modding concept, and since i might have my wiz sitting for a while, i might go ahead and try something too! nothing as extreme as yours of course.. i'd love to see more updates on your project along with some guide to see what ideas i can take
slight detail while thinking my options.. if i was to remap the screen on/off function to another button, would i need to have the device in sync? or connected via cable? because when i had the usb soldered, don't know how nor why (all the pins seem to be ok) but the device won't be recognized by any computer, usb only works for charging (or used to work, at least, still haven't figured why it won't charge now).
If its only an app that i can load to the phone, once i have it working (that if i ever will), i can load the app thru minisd, BT or IrDa so that would't be a problem.. i haven's investigated that issue yet.
Hey jinxie, how's your Wizard?
If you're still stuck with the battery (I hope not), check this out...
I think this will solve your battery problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4963547&postcount=5
That's probably to work, just be carefull with the battery's temperature. If it starts to heat, stop the process and wait it to get normal, then start again.
Good luck!
i tried keeping the wires attached to the contacts for a while, didn't think it'd work better doing it just for a little and then repeating the process, i'll try that!
yeap, i'm still stuck and i think i will be for a while, i have to solve the battery issue first (would be useless to do anything else if i'm not certain i will get it to work), then i have to decide what i am going to do with the power button, and then i might paint it, i'm thinking matte black, or maybe take some ideas from your project if you have made any progress at the time!
thanks for the tip, i'll try it today and i let you know how it went
development: phone DOES NOT turn on with the soft reset button as i thought, i was sure it did, but after jumping the bat once again, tried the wiring method (not repeating the jump start but wiring it directly to de device pins), and tried to turn it on with soft reset and dind't work, while it does turn on with the power button, wich is broken, so in order to turn it on i cannot have the phone assambled, wich means that in order to try to make it work, i will need to hold the battery attached with my hands, and it is a pain in the.. you know where.
update: i wired the charger i was using to jump start the battery to the pins in the wizard, then held the battery in place with my hand, with a small screwdriver i pushed the broken power button. wizard turned on, IT FINALLY LOADED WINDOWS, but don't rush, i then (with my MOUTH) connected the USB wall charger to the port in the phone, and removed the wiring, i was expecting the goddamn light to turn on and the screen to tell me that my phone was finally charging. I WAS WRONG. then i had to let go because my hand was killing me and it went off
and the damn thing refuses to charge! what could it be????????
2nd update: I AM MACGYVER !
i figured the wiring had given the bat enough power to load windows on its own, so tried once more holding everything together with my hand but without wiring the pins this time, and at last the amber light turned on!!! im so proud of myself lol
SO NOW: device works ok, charges ok, battery has enaugh power to load windows, WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT THE BROKEN POWER BUTTON? i know you can't remap the power function since its hardware, but the screen on/off function might be remapped. soft reset button DOES not turn on the phone, is there any other way of turning it on? or my only option is to take off the voice command button and soldering it where the power button should be?
well, found the little button part that was missing, glued it (yes, GLUED it), and it kinda worked, i had painted the casing already, so i assembled everything back again. i used a folded piece of paper to hold the button still so it won't fall again and i think it was too big cause now its kind of hard to press but i can live with that, what i cannot live with is NO SIGNAL.. i mean, CMON!! are you kiddin me? now that the button works, battery works, phone assembled, and now this?? when i dissassembled the phone i forgot to take out the sim card, so the metal parts that hold it opened a bit, but i pressed them back, the sim in no way loose, so i guess i might have screwed the attenna :S
i've just checked, i can see the sim contacts so... [CENSORED] !!!
also now the screen looks weird.. like if it had less colours, like when you format your pc and haven's installed the graphic drivers yet, 3d effects look funny..
Hey man, have you painted ALL the Wizard parts, on both sides?
'Cause there is one that has a piece of copper board inside. It makes contact with the antenna. Without that contact, you'll never have signal
The piece I'm talking about is the one that has the camera protection, saying "1.3 MP camera". Look at its back and see if there's no paint on a green and golden plate. Remove the paint if it got there (the golden part is the important one, since it makes contact with the antenna).
Good luck man!
hahah lol, no of course i didn't paint both sides! but anyways im gonna take it apart again, clean it, and try again..
done. it had some paintng yes, but they were very tiny spray drops, so i don't think that is, anyway i cleaned it. On the other hand, i found that the antenna is loose on the left side :S what can i do about it?
Dear forum members,
2 days ago i spilled some beer on my front pocket, exactly where my HD2 was located. It wasn't much, maybe one or two sips. The water damage seal is still white. I immediately grabbed my phone, pulled the battery out and put it in my other (clean) pocket. When I got home I immediately put my phone on top of the radiator (which i turned down a bit) A day later I turned my phone on again. Everything worked as normal, normal clear boot screen, the intro tune sounded ok, and it even vibrated. I was pretty relieved. The touchscreen works perfectly but only the phone turns the volume up all the time. I can't do anything with the phone because the volume is pernamently raising and thus going to the volume screen. Today I rinsed the volume buttons with demineralised water (very little and careful). The phone is currently drying in a sack of rice. Does someone have any ideas or suggestions how I can fix this issue?
Thanks in advance
EDIT: MY PHONE IS WORKING AGAIN! I just turned it on, the volume was still raising. I don't know why, but something told me i had to suck the "vaporised water" out of the phone. I used my mouth and sucked air out of the small openings of the phone. The phone immediately stopped raising the volume!
You should be able to find instructions for taking the phone apart somewhere around here... I've seen a thread about it I'm almost sure.
Apart from waiting and hoping I don't think you can do much else apart from trying to take it apart and see if there is anything that needs cleaning.
Hey all,
So the other night at the pub, a friend spilled their water on the table, and my nexus 4 was in the path. It was quickly removed and pulled out of its case which seemed to have protected it and was working just fine. The next morning however, and the past few days, it's been acting perfectly fine except for it acting like the volume down button is being held down. The worst part is I can't get it to boot into regular mode, only safe mode because it thinks the button is being held down...
Could this have been the water? I tried a couple days in rice with no change. Any ideas for what I should try next? It makes me incredibly frustrated to think a perfectly good phone would go to waste just because the volume button is acting wonky (and I've tried mashing on it and making sure it's not stuck in or anything).
Thanks!
cj1171 said:
Hey all,
So the other night at the pub, a friend spilled their water on the table, and my nexus 4 was in the path. It was quickly removed and pulled out of its case which seemed to have protected it and was working just fine. The next morning however, and the past few days, it's been acting perfectly fine except for it acting like the volume down button is being held down. The worst part is I can't get it to boot into regular mode, only safe mode because it thinks the button is being held down...
Could this have been the water? I tried a couple days in rice with no change. Any ideas for what I should try next? It makes me incredibly frustrated to think a perfectly good phone would go to waste just because the volume button is acting wonky (and I've tried mashing on it and making sure it's not stuck in or anything).
Thanks!
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If was me id take it apart and inspect inside since happened after water spill.... Ud be surprised how fast corrosion can happen and could be causing your issues, may just need be cleaned inside (worth a try) . Quick google search will find u a youtube video on how to take apart
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If was me id take it apart and inspect inside since happened after water spill.... Ud be surprised how fast corrosion can happen and could be causing your issues, may just need be cleaned inside (worth a try) . Quick google search will find u a youtube video on how to take apart
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Cool, I'll give that a shot...too bad my tool set only goes down to a T6! Gotta get a T5 and some proper rubbing alcohol. Fingers crossed!
So, no luck trying to clean it with alcohol. The button is still acting as if it is being held down.
...what do I do with the phone now?
Hi, I just bought a new phone, yes, i guess you know what it is.
G900H (damn...) I wanted F version.
Well, Everything worked nicely, then I tried water, apps, anything, the phone worked.
BUT something happened, power button didnt work, sometimes it did sometimes it didnt... Then I restarted, a LOT, pulling battery etc, It booted itselft btw. Then I deleted apps, etc. Somehow, after 30+ restarts, it worked! phone worked normally, i was like, WTH.
then after 2 or 3 months, now...
Today I washed the phone, everything closed, it looks like after that, the phone's power button doesnt WORK... (every other button worked fine, all operations up to date. nothing bad)
I went to recovery.. power button didnt work. volume, home did work.
I asked myself, did I screw up the power button? then should I wait for the phone to dry out? WTH. This thing worked for so many times, NOW it doesnt...wat do i do..
DOWNLOAD MODE
once in download mode, volume + to go volume - to restart phone.
I couldnt CLICK any option.WTH
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MY PHONEEEE
yes, warranty is void
anyone happened the same?
fenchai said:
should I wait for the phone to dry out? WTH.
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WTH indeed. Should you wait for the phone to dry out? Seriously? Electricity and water.
You shouldn't be washing a phone. Carefully wipe it with a damp cloth perhaps. And yes wait for it to dry. If you are lucky, it will be okay after it dries, although it sounds like you have a physically damaged button.
You could try reverting to 100% stock to rule out software issues. The only proper fix for physical damage is to replace the power button. The part is dirt cheap, but the labour to disasemble yourphone and install it could be quite expensive.
A possible workaround would be an app that remaps the button elsewhere. That won't work to power on the device, but may help for routine operation once it's already on. Should your power button completely fail, you can use an USB JTAG adapter to turn your phone on.
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fffft said:
WTH indeed. Should you wait for the phone to dry out? Seriously? Electricity and water.
You shouldn't be washing a phone. Carefully wipe it with a damp cloth perhaps. And yes wait for it to dry. If you are lucky, it will be okay after it dries, although it sounds like you have a physically damaged button.
You could try reverting to 100% stock to rule out software issues. The only proper fix for physical damage is to replace the power button. The part is dirt cheap, but the labour to disasemble yourphone and install it could be quite expensive.
A possible workaround would be an app that remaps the button elsewhere. That won't work to power on the device, but may help for routine operation once it's already on. Should your power button completely fail, you can use an USB JTAG adapter to turn your phone on.
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Hi bud,
thanks for replying,
I got so scared, but it looks like now everything works, I put the phone to charging, the button looks perfect, y clicks and everything.. i dont see how it is damaged T.T
Maybe water entered somewhere? Damn u samsung, water proof THaT.
After charging a bit, I was stuck in recovey, I tried pressing power button . IT Worked! then it didnt, I had a few self reboots but everything is fine now.
So I guess I had to dry it. How? I cant know, the phone seems dry to me. Maybe theres a small hole where water could enter in power button?
let me see your opinions.
Sent from my SM-G900H
fenchai said:
the button looks perfect, y clicks and everything.. i dont see how it is damaged
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Looks perfect, clicks and everything. But doesn't work reliably. And you can't imagine how it could be damaged? I would have thought the erratic operation to be a clue.
fenchai said:
Damn u samsung, water proof THaT.
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Show us where Samsung ever wrote that the phone is waterproof. It's water resistant, which means that it will probably save you from permanent damage if it gets accidentally wet. A splash, rain, a one time drop into shallow water. But tempting fate by routinely exposing it to water; washing it or taking it along when snorkeling would be imprudent.
It's unclear from your last post if the button is now working properly or not. If it is, great. If not, you will find some suggestions in my previous post. Good luck.
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Looks perfect, clicks and everything. But doesn't work reliably. And you can't imagine how it could be damaged? I would have thought the erratic operation to be a clue.
Show us where Samsung ever wrote that the phone is waterproof. It's water resistant, which means that it will probably save you from permanent damage if it gets accidentally wet. A splash, rain, a one time drop into shallow water. But tempting fate by routinely exposing it to water; washing it or taking it along when snorkeling would be imprudent.
It's unclear from your last post if the button is now working properly or not. If it is, great. If not, you will find some suggestions in my previous post. Good luck.
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yes, it is working properly now may have been because of water damage. thanks
Sent from my SM-G900H