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As you probably heard, Samsung decided to confuse us even more by launching a Canadian Vibrant on Bell Canada's network. That being said, will you guys be looking into rooting this one as well?
for those that are looking for a Euro-like Galaxy S. but with AT&T bands, keep a look-out for the Bell version.
http://galaxys.bell.ca/
http://pages.samsung.com/ca/galaxy/English/
Just use some random Postal Code. for example, search up some random sports arena location, and use their postal code
how do they differ
That's the i9000, not the Vibrant...
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That's the i9000, not the Vibrant...
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that's the Canadian Vibrant with the salme i9000 look but has AT&T 3G bands. I am thinking Samsung probably has one radio chip for all...instead of making different radio chips for different version. So, there may be a way to enable all bands in the radio. We were able to change bands in the service mode but on Tmo vibrant, the 850mhz 3G band is still not active.
I have my phone rooted using Ryanza's OCLF, worked no problem. The only difference i found thus far is the keys to get into recovery and download mode, well for my usage anyways lol
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/05/nexus-one-lives-on-as-googles-official-developer-phone/
LONG LIVE THE NEXUS ONE!!!
Only problem, at least for me, is that it's the T-Mobile band version.
But it's still awesome nonetheless.
I am glad I am with tmobile is tbis phone going to be the one they gave out to developers with security off or will it be like the retail version
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Engadget said that the bootloader isn't unlocked, and that fastboot is disabled (!). What does that mean in effect, I have no idea.
EarthsiegeTA said:
Only problem, at least for me, is that it's the T-Mobile band version.
But it's still awesome nonetheless.
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I bought an AT&T version before they stopped selling them, and on the slip that came with it it says
GSM 3G 850/1900/2100MHz
If i'm not mistaken, what is "the 3 UMTS Bands 900/AWS/2100" mean.
Does this phone not cover all bands? It's quoted to be carried independant.
There are two different nexus ones out there. Each one is compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile voice and data frequencies. BUT, if you get the T-Mobile banded model, then when you put an AT&T sim card in it you will only get Edge speed internet. The difference between the two is 3g connectivity. The really ****ty and annoying thing is the chip that is in the phone is supposedly capable of all GSM frequencies and all 3g frequencies but the phone is missing the correct ancillary chip to activate them all. So they made two different ones. I would bet that the American carriers weren't hap py about having a phone that could be taken from one provider to another and put their foot down. Just my theory though.
hey guys
just wondering what the diffrence is between the galaxy S fascinate and the galaxy S i9000 is?
i cant find any direct comparisons.
can anyone please help me?
The i9000 is a GSM phone. Fascinate is a CDMA phone.
The i9000 also has an FM radio, we don't
Kevin Gossett said:
The i9000 is a GSM phone. Fascinate is a CDMA phone.
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what does that mean? can i still use one here in australia? was thinking of buying one of these, its NextG compatible to, which is what i want.
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The i9000 also has an FM radio, we don't
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i dont care for radios so no big deal there
i9000 has a Front-Facing camera I believe.
From a bit of research (i.e. Googling ) it would appear that Australia's CDMA network was shut down in 2008, and the GSM network became the only option. A CDMA-only phone won't work on a GSM network, and vice-versa. There are a few phones that support both CDMA and GSM (such as the Droid 2 Global), but most only support one or the other. It would appear that the Fascinate would be pretty much useless in Australia, although the i9000 should work fine if it uses the same set of frequencies as they use there.
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i9000 has a Front-Facing camera I believe.
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yeah mine has a front facing camera, reason i want one is my galaxy S isn't NextG so its slow as **** on the internet, i want a NextG one but the fascinate is the only one they have on stick
it says network is GSM to ??
http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/samsung-fascinate-nextg.html
aussiesausage said:
yeah mine has a front facing camera, reason i want one is my galaxy S isn't NextG so its slow as **** on the internet, i want a NextG one but the fascinate is the only one they have on stick
it says network is GSM to ??
http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/samsung-fascinate-nextg.html
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The Fascinate is a CDMA phone. In the US, it's sold on Verizon Wireless. It has 384 MB of RAM in exchange for larger internal storage and camera flash. The Epic is a CDMA phone. It's arguably the best out of all of the US variants. It has a slide-out keyboard and six-axis accelerometer and Front-Facing camera and 5MP camera with single-LED flash. It's sold on Sprint. The Vibrant is closes to the original i9000. It's basically the same except that it has no front-facing camera (although the space to add one is still there) and it has 4 capacitive buttons on the front instead of the original 2. It's GSM. The Captivate is the same as the Vibrant except it's sold on AT&T and, by default, can't sideload applications because of AT&T's stupid restrictions.
The only differences are as many before me have said : Its a CDMA phone, It lacks a front facing camera, and It doesn't have the same amount of internal storage as the i9000 (we do still have 512 megs of RAM, the system only makes 3 something available to android like with all of the S variants). In your situation though it sounds like you'd be better off with an i909. Its basically the 9000 with both CDMA and GSM support but its only for the Chinese market so it may be a bit hard to come across (Ive been hunting for one for the longest myslf to no avail)
What about the Samsung Captivate?
If i got one of them would i be going from good to worse if i sell my Galaxy S i9000?
Really want a NextG and can get a Captivate for $599 ( NextG version )
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Samsung had a gsm model on the market. Isn't that what TelUs in Canada uses?
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CDMA only works in the US. GSM is global. So don't worry about the features. make sure the device works on your network FIRST
If it's being sold in Aus it's probably the Telus Fascinate. OP, is the model # T959D (Telus) or i500 (Verizon)?
Both the Telus Fascinate and the AT&T/Rogers Captivate are GSM phones with the 850 band used for 3g down under. Only the Telus has HSUPA, though, so it may be slightly faster.
takylo said:
CDMA only works in the US. GSM is global. So don't worry about the features. make sure the device works on your network FIRST
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Not true. CDMA is in the US, Canada, and several countries around the world including Japan and even Australia, up until 2008.
However, with CDMA, there is no SIM card to switch and it's a ***** to switch networks and take your phone with you unless the new network doesn't care if you bring outside phones.
ok just called them up and its the TelUS version, so its the GSM version, and NextG will work
fascinate a good pick then after i sell my i9000?
also, they are trying to tell me this phone now
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-vibrant-galaxy-s-16gb.html
is that good after selling my i9000?
Uh, no. The Bell Vibrant (i9000m) would be ok, but that's the T mo one which has different and incompatible bands.
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Uh, no. The Bell Vibrant (i9000m) would be ok, but that's the T mo one which has different and incompatible bands.
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it says GSM 850 which is telstra NextG
my god this mobile **** is pee-ing me off, its so hard
No it doesn't: look at the fine print at the link.
Just get the Telus.
The tmobile vibrant does in-fact support the 850 band when its unlocked (just search for tmobile vibrant on AT&T because I cant link it) so either model works
Edit: Or not i suffered from foot in mouth syndrome it only supports the 1900 band
Hitokiri24 said:
The tmobile vibrant does in-fact support the 850 band when its unlocked (just search for tmobile vibrant on AT&T because I cant link it) so either model works
Edit: Or not i suffered from foot in mouth syndrome it only supports the 1900 band
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You can unlock it yourself. There are apps on and off the market that will do it for you. Also, the T-Mobile version supports both T-Mobile's and AT&T's 3G frequencies.
05/07/11 - Finally, nexus wiki page is updated a few weeks ago. My apologies for being under the rock this whole time. Kudos to the guys who did all the work. Thanks so much guys for helping providing these infos. Keep them coming if you have anything to add.
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I think there should be a sticky, or an updated nexus s wiki, about the variants of nexus s we are having lately and upcoming
Like, for example:
gt-i9020t for t-mobile, with info like samoled, t-mobile radio band, ...
gt-i9023 for europe, with amoled/sclcd, ...
and the ones coming out in canada
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Well, I finally figured out all these technical problems I was having - Thread got moved
Anyway, I just hope that we all share what we know, correct misleading info, gather it all and hopefully someone update the Nexus S wiki page.
(like the Galaxy S page where different models are listed which I think is very helpful)
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Model: GT-I9020T
Compatibility: T-Mobile USA, Wind, Mobility (900/1700/2100)
Screen type: Super AMOLED
Model: GT-I9020A, GT-I9020F
Compatibility: AT&T, Rogers, Fido, Telus, Bell (850/1900/2100)
Screen type: Super AMOLED
(Rooting differs from I9020T)
Model: GT-I9023
Compatibility: Most of countries outside of the N America continent
Screen type: Super Clear LCD
(Rooting method also differs from I9020T)
Model: SPH-D720
Screen: Super AMOLED
Bands: 800MHZ/1900MHZ/2.5GHZ (Sprint // 1xRTT, EVDO Rev. A, WiMAX)
--Thanks to NastyNate208--
Model: SHW-M200K, SHW-M200S
Compatibility: KT, SKT
Screen type: Super AMOLED
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why dont you start it then? :|
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why dont you start it then? :|
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Actually, this just came up while I was about to buy myself one
Now, I am holding off because I want to get an at&t compatible one, but worried if it has sclcd which I don't prefer
As I digged deeper, the more I got confused
So I thought there should be some info on this that would help me and everyone else
Yes, I would make a thread for this, only if I had the time as I have a very tight schedule with work and school
9020 samoloed 9023 slcd
and if I'm not mistaken the 9023 is only around in europe. (which is why i have one - and let me tell you the screen isn't half bad either - the only pain is that it needs different recovery roms than the 9020 and that finding out how to unlock/root it took 10 extra minutes )
i think you guys got it a bit off...
i9020 is the original one (T-mobile USA 1700/2100 3G)
then came the i9023 (Europe 1700/2100 3G)
and it came the
i9020A (for AT&T 850/1900 3G)
and coming soon is the Nexus S 4G for sprint, which we do not yet the model code
jk0l said:
Actually, this just came up while I was about to buy myself one
Now, I am holding off because I want to get an at&t compatible one, but worried if it has sclcd which I don't prefer
As I digged deeper, the more I got confused
So I thought there should be some info on this that would help me and everyone else
Yes, I would make a thread for this, only if I had the time as I have a very tight schedule with work and school
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The AT&T is 9020A, the 9020 model is Super AMOLED. Adding the A means it'll be Super AMOLED. If it was SLCD then it would be 9023A.
Sprint will probably be 9020S
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The AT&T is 9020A, the 9020 model is Super AMOLED. Adding the A means it'll be Super AMOLED. If it was SLCD then it would be 9023A.
Sprint will probably be 9020S
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Considering one has to use the rooting technics of the 9023 to get a 9020A rooted, i don't see rhyme or reason for standard in the naming convention.
I strongly suspect that 9020 means AMOLED, 9023 means LCD, the A indicates ATT, the carrier info, or A as an official variant of the base model.
I believe that the reason the 9023 guide needs to be used to root the 9020A is because of the hardware revision of the device. I don't think that the 9023's only major difference is the screen and radio, there is something else more under the hood that is making a difference in how the phone behaves. And it's these changes that are brought into future models (like the 9020A)
My Device for example is marked as "REV - 16" for it's hardware revision
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I strongly suspect that 9020 means AMOLED, 9023 means LCD, the A indicates ATT, the carrier info, or A as an official variant of the base model.
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this is indeed correct if you look over at the i9000 forum
all the SLCD version of the Galaxy S are coded i9003 or something with a 3, like i903 (china SLCD version), i909 (china SAMOLED verison)
so for whatever the reason they like to use 3 to mean SLCD version
Nexus S Variants
*technical problem*
*technical problem again , updated first post*
SO what does my number signify? if anything?
GT-I9020FSRRWC
It's on the Rogers Network here in Canada
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SO what does my number signify? if anything?
GT-I9020FSRRWC
It's on the Rogers Network here in Canada
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Super AMOLED screen.
Just Information,
I'm from Indonesia and Baseband version is I9023XXKB3.
@jk0l
you should also list the frequency bands they operate in 3G otherwise is pretty useless to only know the models
we all know quad-band works with voice, but 3G are different for each of those
refer to my previous replies for details
the AT&T/Rogers/Fido also works on Telus/Bell
the T-mobile USA version also works with MobilityCity, Windmobile, Vidéotron
AllGamer said:
@jk0l
you should also list the frequency bands they operate in 3G otherwise is pretty useless to only know the models
we all know quad-band works with voice, but 3G are different for each of those
refer to my previous replies for details
the AT&T/Rogers/Fido also works on Telus/Bell
the T-mobile USA version also works with MobilityCity, Windmobile, Vidéotron
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I assumed that everyone already aware of the 3g stuff since I've put down the carriers
But anyway, I've just included it as you prefer
PS. did you know that videotron still carries nexus one?
I dont know about now, but it was there the last time I checked
Don't foget that the i9023 is slightly thicker than the i9020 too - dues to the sclcd screen technology.
I found this out the hard way when buying a case for my i9023. It doesn't fit!
re: wiki
everyone is free to help update the wiki
you automatically have access to edit the wiki, for those that knows how to code in Wiki language.
GT-i9023 also can be had with a white battery cover, colour is classed as Perl White on the box.
what about the first stock model?
model Nexus S(yha thats how its model name is on my nexus s.):S
well its model GT-I9020
not I9020T.
last time i checked, england is in europe, and it has the i9020.
i'm also coming to the conclusion that the 9020a that's available in canada has improved gps drivers. of course as the phone - i'm guessing - will need root to install new drivers on the phone - those with the existing problem are sol. that's why google are 'looking into the problem' which i don't believe was not caught in testing, and is probably why a new phone has been released in canada for samsung to prove they can correct the problems.
Hi all,
Im thinking of buying this phone but from what i have read there isnt much difference between the Atrix and the Atrix 4g.
How will I be able to tell which is which? specs are almost the same.
Should add that I am buying used. Also, I am in the UK.
Look forward to your replies!
They are the same phone!
I'm also in the UK, really like my atrix, but coming from a modded android to a locked phone is a bit difficult...
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They are the same phone!
I'm also in the UK, really like my atrix, but coming from a modded android to a locked phone is a bit difficult...
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your sure? i read somewhere that the first atrix has 5mp cam which has been upped to 8mp in the new version.
Maybe im mistaken.
Yes ive heard about Moto not playing nice with rooting!
It is the Atrix 4g and the Atrix 2. And the Atrix 4g has a 5 MP camera and the Atrix 2 has a 8 MP camera. The most noticeable thing I saw in the looks of the 2 phones was the Atrix 4g has the speaker on the back at the bottom and the Atrix 2 has the speaker on the front at the top.
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It is the Atrix 4g and the Atrix 2. And the Atrix 4g has a 5 MP camera and the Atrix 2 has a 8 MP camera. The most noticeable thing I saw in the looks of the 2 phones was the Atrix 4g has the speaker on the back at the bottom and the Atrix 2 has the speaker on the front at the top.
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yeah that's right... looking at the specs on motorola website, seems that's the only difference!
cool, now i know what to look out for!!!
atrix(4g) is not a locked phone, is it? If you follow the guide, you can unlock the bootloader and flash different ROMs on it.
Another difference between atrix(4g) and atrix 2 is the fingerprint scanner. atrix 2 doesn't have it.
Since you are in the UK you will probably want the "Motorola Atrix" since it has the 900MHz UMTS band needed for some UK carriers like Vodafone and O2.
The "Motorola Atrix 4G" is the title used for the Atrix line that is used in North America for carriers like AT&T and Bell.
Look at these two links and you will see that the main difference is the bands used for their 3G networks. AT&T and Bell use 850/1900 and Vodafone and O2 use 900/2100.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix_4g-3708.php
I could be wrong but this is what I can gather from your question. Also, you might be able to use the "4G" branded one because it still uses the 2100MHz band (if unlocked) but you might experience reduced coverage (slower speeds).
The difference in cameras is between the Atrix(4G) and Atrix 2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix_2-4199.php
Which also does not use the 900MHz band.
EDIT: I would also like to point out that they do all use the same "Quad-band GSM" but that is for the 2G(EDGE) network, and not 3G(UMTS/HSPA)
jman316 said:
Hi all,
Im thinking of buying this phone but from what i have read there isnt much difference between the Atrix and the Atrix 4g.
How will I be able to tell which is which? specs are almost the same.
Should add that I am buying used. Also, I am in the UK.
Look forward to your replies!
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Some suggested the only difference between atrix and atrix 4g is the firmware. But I don't know how true it is.
I have a Bell (canadian) atrix 4G, and I am currently in UK on O2. Is there any way to tell if I can use UMTS900 or not?
If there is a way to tell, and I manage to connect to UMTS900, then I will say there is no difference between atrix and atrix4G.
Right, an unlocked Bell/AT&T Atrix will work on almost all of the UK networks but it will be restricted to the 2100MHz band for 3G(HSPA) or quad-band GSM for 2G(EDGE).
You don't need to try "to tell" if your Bell Atrix is using the 900MHz band for 3G(UMTS/HSPA) because it cannot. It's in the specs, it just doesn't have the capability.
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Motorola_Atrix_4G/Specifications.tab
Just to clarify, I'm not saying you can't use an unlocked AT&T/Bell Atrix in the UK, all I'm saying is it will not be able to use the 900MHz band for 3G. It will, however, be able to use it on EDGE/2G. I'm fairly certain it's a hardware thing.
ken218 said:
Some suggested the only difference between atrix and atrix 4g is the firmware. But I don't know how true it is.
I have a Bell (canadian) atrix 4G, and I am currently in UK on O2. Is there any way to tell if I can use UMTS900 or not?
If there is a way to tell, and I manage to connect to UMTS900, then I will say there is no difference between atrix and atrix4G.
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People seems to be either pretty certain it is only a firmware difference, or pretty certain it is a hardware difference. But no one can confirm which one is correct...
I do agree, based on the spec from motorola, US/CA atrix doesn't support UMTS900.
ken218 said:
People seems to be either pretty certain it is only a firmware difference, or pretty certain it is a hardware difference. But no one can confirm which one is correct...
I do agree, based on the spec from motorola, US/CA atrix doesn't support UMTS900.
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Same result I've had. I've posted a question thread on the modems here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442350
Its annoying me because if its just a software limitation, what is there to stop us from giving it 900mhz umts support? The "workaround" just needs discovering by a developer (I've been mooching around, but i'm not dev!)
O2 UK has UMTS on 900MHz now, and one local to me so I want to use it without replacing it for a UK atrix lol.
What we need is an international/uk user to be brave and strip their phone down and find out for us!
My gut feeling is its something in the kernel/drivers/boot loader provided for the AT&T Atrix. On samsungs there is a secret menu for turning bands on and off.. but none of those codes will work on the Atrix of course (even the generic test ones built into android don't work!)
If you know anywhere close to London where o2 has UMTS900 coverage, but no UMTS2100 coverage, then I will try it out.
If I can get 3G at that location, then my Bell Atrix with UK baseband works with UMTS900. If not, then it is more than likely to be hardware.
ken218 said:
If you know anywhere close to London where o2 has UMTS900 coverage, but no UMTS2100 coverage, then I will try it out.
If I can get 3G at that location, then my Bell Atrix with UK baseband works with UMTS900. If not, then it is more than likely to be hardware.
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If you can come down to Solent Business Park/Whiteley you'll have it there on 900mhz. They were digging up the road a few weeks ago right by the mast (which is pretty much line of sight with my office), and I took my Nokia N900 (on GiffGaff as its a spare!) which supports UMTS 900 and it had full 3G signal (atrix had full 2g), which it could never get before. The nearest 2100mhz mast is like 2 miles away. The atrix will pick the 2100 mast up rarely down there, and when it does, it has 1 bar if that.
I tried a few different base bands while at work, none seem to provide positive results on my AT&T Atrix.
When it comes to the differences of the Atrix and the Atrix 4G, it is the 900MHz UMTS band. The Intl version has it but the AT&T/Bell version does not.
While the OP (@jman316) was looking for the differences between these two versions, you seem to be trying to figure out how to access that band on the AT&T version, which is not possible.
GSM and UMTS are not compatible. UMTS is an evolution of GSM but they are not the same. So, going back to your dilemma, you have stated in your other thread that you currently have an AT&T version. Based on that, you cannot use the 900MHz band on 3G/UMTS/HSPA. Only 2G/GSM/EDGE.
http://etutorials.org/Mobile+device...eral+Packet+Radio+Service+and+UMTS+PS+Domain/
http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-gsm-and-umts/
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_umts_and_gsm
To reiterate, quad-band GSM is not the same thing as UMTS/HSPA The AT&T Atrix can only use the 900MHz band on EDGE/2G, not 3G/UMTS/HSPA.
I apologize if I seem derisive on the matter, I just feel that the facts are right there.
tehrules said:
Same result I've had. I've posted a question thread on the modems here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442350
Its annoying me because if its just a software limitation, what is there to stop us from giving it 900mhz umts support? The "workaround" just needs discovering by a developer (I've been mooching around, but i'm not dev!)
O2 UK has UMTS on 900MHz now, and one local to me so I want to use it without replacing it for a UK atrix lol.
What we need is an international/uk user to be brave and strip their phone down and find out for us!
My gut feeling is its something in the kernel/drivers/boot loader provided for the AT&T Atrix. On samsungs there is a secret menu for turning bands on and off.. but none of those codes will work on the Atrix of course (even the generic test ones built into android don't work!)
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live4nyy said:
When it comes to the differences of the Atrix and the Atrix 4G, it is the 900MHz UMTS band. The Intl version has it but the AT&T/Bell version does not.
While the OP (@jman316) was looking for the differences between these two versions, you seem to be trying to figure out how to access that band on the AT&T version, which is not possible.
GSM and UMTS are not compatible. UMTS is an evolution of GSM but they are not the same. So, going back to your dilemma, you have stated in your other thread that you currently have an AT&T version. Based on that, you cannot use the 900MHz band on 3G/UMTS/HSPA. Only 2G/GSM/EDGE.
http://etutorials.org/Mobile+device...eral+Packet+Radio+Service+and+UMTS+PS+Domain/
http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-gsm-and-umts/
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_umts_and_gsm
To reiterate, quad-band GSM is not the same thing as UMTS/HSPA The AT&T Atrix can only use the 900MHz band on EDGE/2G, not 3G/UMTS/HSPA.
I apologize if I seem derisive on the matter, I just feel that the facts are right there.
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I'm very aware of the differences in the technology. I don't know where your comparison of GSM/UMTS and the links relevant here. Its a quad band gsm and quad band UTMS/WCDMA/3G phone with one band disabled be it through a hardware modification to the chip or by software.
What we are trying to drill down to is this:
1. Is it the same cellular modem chip used in both AT&T/Bell and the international versions?
If yes then,
2. Why is it not possible to enable the disabled band?
Has anyone really done any research into either of these? No. If had a spare pool of money I'd buy a UK phone, and strip it down, and prove once and for all what difference there is, and we could then say, oh so the chips are different models so that explains that or go, oh its the same chip/part number, lets hack the software a bit.
Also Atrix 2 uses normal tft lcd instead of pentile as in original atrix.
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el_venga said:
Also Atrix 2 uses normal tft lcd instead of pentile as in original atrix.
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We are not on about the Atrix 2, we are on about Atrix 4G (US) vs Atrix (UK/EU/World)
What I have quoted above about 3G on 900mhz should be possible, here is a little pointer (evidence perhaps?) as to why it should work...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334674
http://www.option.com/en/products/p...ons/lgamodulegtm601-609/specifications/#start
http://www.m2msearch.com/node/128
http://www.att.com/media/en_US/docs/edo/ATT_Approved_Modules.xls
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54154049/...odem-Device-Specification-Advance-Information
I have done a lot of research into the matter and from what I have gathered the chips/modules responsible for the compatible frequencies can be tailored to specs according to the customer's (AT&T) requests. Which, from my understanding, would be a hardware issue. So, even if they have the same chip, it wouldn't matter, since AT&T can have it custom made to just use the frequencies they approve. Which actually sounds a lot like something AT&T would do, given their track record.
I also found this thread where others are pretty certain it is not possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233097
tehrules said:
I'm very aware of the differences in the technology. I don't know where your comparison of GSM/UMTS and the links relevant here. Its a quad band gsm and quad band UTMS/WCDMA/3G phone with one band disabled be it through a hardware modification to the chip or by software.
What we are trying to drill down to is this:
1. Is it the same cellular modem chip used in both AT&T/Bell and the international versions?
If yes then,
2. Why is it not possible to enable the disabled band?
Has anyone really done any research into either of these? No. If had a spare pool of money I'd buy a UK phone, and strip it down, and prove once and for all what difference there is, and we could then say, oh so the chips are different models so that explains that or go, oh its the same chip/part number, lets hack the software a bit.
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Ok this is all confusing now !
Will i be able to get 3g speeds in the Uk with the Atrix or is it limited to 2G!?