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Why does my phone shutoff?

Rooted my Hero and it doesn't matter which custom Rom I've tried(Fresh, Damage, others) my phone will shut off most of the time it goes into sleep. I don't know its off until I go to wake it up by hitting the end button. When I restore back to the stock Rom(still rooted) it works fine. I do a wipe and a Dalvick wipe prior to flashing. I'd like to get this figured out so I can use one of the nice Roms. Thanks.

If you're running A2SD and you have the Dalvisk on a slow sd card you phone can reboot or shut off. Try moving it off of the SD

patkin said:
Rooted my Hero and it doesn't matter which custom Rom I've tried(Fresh, Damage, others) my phone will shut off most of the time it goes into sleep. I don't know its off until I go to wake it up by hitting the end button. When I restore back to the stock Rom(still rooted) it works fine. I do a wipe and a Dalvick wipe prior to flashing. I'd like to get this figured out so I can use one of the nice Roms. Thanks.
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WOW! You are the first person that has had the same problem I have...I was never able to resolve the issue. I used that bastard 2.1 test leak.......read my posts and what I went through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6268366#post6268366
My phone works fine now with gumbo 1.5, but I cant use any 2.1 roms or the problem comes back......

kyouko said:
If you're running A2SD and you have the Dalvisk on a slow sd card you phone can reboot or shut off. Try moving it off of the SD
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I am not positive what A2SD is. I have a new 8MB SD card that came today. If I pop that in what will happen. Should it be partitioned? Thanks.

Chaid said:
WOW! You are the first person that has had the same problem I have...I was never able to resolve the issue. I used that bastard 2.1 test leak.......read my posts and what I went through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6268366#post6268366
My phone works fine now with gumbo 1.5, but I cant use any 2.1 roms or the problem comes back......
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Thank God I thought I was the only one. I searched but didn't see your thread. Weird problem.

Same problem here too since the new leaked 2.1 test ruu from damaged. The only 2.1 Rom that works for my needs without rebooting every 3rd or 4th time I wake it using the end call/power button is Damagedtrev 2.01, the updated 2.05 Rom in his thread just makes my phone reboot as described above. I don't have a link to his thread, but it would be interesting to see if it worked on your phone too. Other's have claimed a battery shorting might be causing this issue, but I'm not buying that. I've looked at /proc/lastkmsg for clues, but nothing obvious there. I hope the official Sprint update doesn't have this bug or sprint will be giving me a new phone. /end rant

I can't seem to find Damagedtrev 2.01
So I can't test it.

Here's the link to the thread.
I cannot post links, because of some restrictions,but here is the last part of the url.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653622
here's the link for the full rom
Oops cannot post link to rom on 4shared, look in the bottom of the first post in the thread for a link to the full rom of DamagedTrev_v201
Please let us know if the rebooting stops for you. Maybe one of the devs could find where the problem is. Pretty please!! I could post any info needed.

Ok, downloading......stay tuned.
I really hope this 2.1 ROM works.....I'm kinda sick of 1.5.
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P.S. I'm reading that there is a battery issue....do you have that?

kyouko said:
If you're running A2SD and you have the Dalvisk on a slow sd card you phone can reboot or shut off. Try moving it off of the SD
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Hey good news. I put the new SD card in after backing up the other one, partitioned it and copied the files and folders back on then flashed ALOYSIUS and so far so good. I have woken it up about 10 times in a row. Looking good.
I had tried that perticular Rom before with no success.

Interesting.....I'm using the 2 gig sd card that came with the phone....I wonder if that is my problem?

Well it started again. This was right after setting my Gmail and POP3 mail accounts. It shut off on the first sleep after this. Hmmmmm.
I'm re-flashing now and not setting up the mail accounts. Will report back later.

Waldo447
Please let us know if the rebooting stops for you. Maybe one of the devs could find where the problem is. Pretty please!! I could post any info needed.
Well, my friend. You were correct! full rom of DamagedTrev_v201 works on our phones for some strange reason. And updating his ROM caused the re-booting to start again. So whatever was changed from 2.0.1 to 2.0.5 is causing our particular problem. I'm not a dev by any means and don't know much about his stuff, but this is encouraging. Perhaps someone can figure out what it is?
I did notice that ALL the other 2.1 ROM's I have used that cause my phone to re-boot from sleep mode, is that when I hit the menu or power button to turn it on, the lights turn on, then reboot phone. With DamagedTrev_v201 that doesn't happen. The screen just pops up to unlock it.....don't know if that helps, it's just something I noticed.
Heres to crossing our fingers that someone can fix this!
P.S. I wiped and went back to Gumbo 1.5c as that 2.1 ROM was way to slow for me and I couldn't get bluetooth to work and audio would cut in and out.

reboot
i would like to know if its a full reboot or just a soft like where it hes to the sprint or boot animation

kwajr said:
i would like to know if its a full reboot or just a soft like where it hes to the sprint or boot animation
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It's a full reboot. The phone actually turns off when it goes into sleep. You don't know it's off until you hit the button to wake it up and the phone boots up.
Now for the good news. After re-flashing and not setting up the email accounts it was still shutting downconfused so I started looking elsewhere so I opened up what I thought was a likely culprit in Autokiller and none of the presets where selected so I picked Moderate and haven't had a shutdown since which has been over an hour. Fingers are crossed. I'll report back later.

That's it I've wasted way too much time on this. Phone works great on the stock ROM. They must have planted some devious anti-flash widget in this phone. I'll leave it rooted for now.

patkin, dude, I felt the same...I gave up on 2.1.
download, wipe then flash Gumbo-1.5c-BARE-signed.zip after it reboots, download and flash Gumbo-Sense-signed.zip.
You flash Gumbo-Sense-signed.zip over the Gumbo-1.5. No need to wipe or anything, it just adds to the ROM. Fast as hell and works PERFECT.
http://www.4shared.com/file/217809392/5fcf1f5d/Gumbo-15c-BARE-signed.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/217811195/3afb5fcf/Gumbo-Sense-signed.html
Give it a shot....I think you will like it......let me know =)
Gumbo thred so you can read up if you like. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630221

Chaid said:
Waldo447
Please let us know if the rebooting stops for you. Maybe one of the devs could find where the problem is. Pretty please!! I could post any info needed.
Well, my friend. You were correct! full rom of DamagedTrev_v201 works on our phones for some strange reason. And updating his ROM caused the re-booting to start again. So whatever was changed from 2.0.1 to 2.0.5 is causing our particular problem. I'm not a dev by any means and don't know much about his stuff, but this is encouraging. Perhaps someone can figure out what it is?
I did notice that ALL the other 2.1 ROM's I have used that cause my phone to re-boot from sleep mode, is that when I hit the menu or power button to turn it on, the lights turn on, then reboot phone. With DamagedTrev_v201 that doesn't happen. The screen just pops up to unlock it.....don't know if that helps, it's just something I noticed.
Heres to crossing our fingers that someone can fix this!
P.S. I wiped and went back to Gumbo 1.5c as that 2.1 ROM was way to slow for me and I couldn't get bluetooth to work and audio would cut in and out.
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Glad to see your rebooting issue was fixed with this rom even though you went back to gumbo 1.5. In my mind, this just confirms that it is not a battery issue. I never use bluetooth and have never experienced any audio loss with this rom, but apparently even people on the same hardware and firmware versions have different problems.
kwajr said:
i would like to know if its a full reboot or just a soft like where it hes to the sprint or boot animation
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Full Reboot here too.
patkin said:
That's it I've wasted way too much time on this. Phone works great on the stock ROM. They must have planted some devious anti-flash widget in this phone. I'll leave it rooted for now.
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Yeah, got my phone beginning of march 2010 and I also think there is something in the 2.1 test ruu or hardware that is keeping the phone from functioning properly with an altered 2.1 rom.

Just wanted to let people know what happened to resolve this. I went back to 1.5 then when 2.1 official came out last week I said what the heck if I can't enjoy a rooted custom 2.1 I'll try the official and guess what. Same problem as the other 2.1's.........phone shuts off randomly! Except this time they are replacing it with a new phone. Yeaaah! I'm probably going Evo now though since I found out I can get a new phone. Anyone need a new Hero?

I'm having the same problem.. One question. Does DarchDroid automatically move dalvik-cache to the sd

[Q] Lockscreen Reboot Issues

I've been having lockscreen reboot issues with the last few Fission roms, and a couple of Matt's. Has anyone else had this problem and resolved it?
I followed the installation instructions and even formatted my SD card. I'm going to try to SBF before I install the next Fission, is there anything else I can do to completely clean out my phone? Such as wiping some system files in recovery or something.
The only data I have left over from other ROMs is backups I made of a few games like Angry Birds.
Any suggestions are appreciated, I've been trying to fix this issue for awhile!

Are you doing a hard reset after flashing roms? Resetting the phone in applications>privacy, at the bottom of privacy?

mikeyinid said:
Are you doing a hard reset after flashing roms? Resetting the phone in applications>privacy, at the bottom of privacy?
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Yup, after installing the ROM and rebooting I do a hard reset through the privacy menu. Would it make a difference if I sign into my google account on first reboot before doing the hard reset?

kdog349 said:
Yup, after installing the ROM and rebooting I do a hard reset through the privacy menu. Would it make a difference if I sign into my google account on first reboot before doing the hard reset?
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I never sign into google until after the hard reset. But I dont know if that matters. Next time you flash a rom, try wiping data and cache in recovery, after flashing, but before you reboot. And, are you overclocking or undervolting?

I'll try wiping data and cache before my first reboot. I know I used to do this but not sure if I've done it recently.
I haven't messed with overclocking or underclocking. Do you know if any widgets are known to cause problems? I run Launcher Pro, but I went a day or two with the stock launcher and still had some reboot issue.

kdog349 said:
I'll try wiping data and cache before my first reboot. I know I used to do this but not sure if I've done it recently.
I haven't messed with overclocking or underclocking. Do you know if any widgets are known to cause problems? I run Launcher Pro, but I went a day or two with the stock launcher and still had some reboot issue.
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Launcherpro wouldnt cause it. I would sbf if i were you, and just keep doing what your doing. After so many flashes there is bound to be some residual bs left behind.
*Fission 2.2.1 will be hitting the forum soon so an sbf is in your best interest Im running it now and its VERY good...

mikeyinid said:
Launcherpro wouldnt cause it. I would sbf if i were you, and just keep doing what your doing. After so many flashes there is bound to be some residual bs left behind.
*Fission 2.2.1 will be hitting the forum soon so an sbf is in your best interest Im running it now and its VERY good...
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I'll give SBF a try. I've been loving everything about the fission ROMs, can't wait to get 2.2.1
Thanks so much for the help!

mikeyinid said:
Launcherpro wouldnt cause it. I would sbf if i were you, and just keep doing what your doing. After so many flashes there is bound to be some residual bs left behind.
*Fission 2.2.1 will be hitting the forum soon so an sbf is in your best interest Im running it now and its VERY good...
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I'll give SBF a try. I've been loving everything about the fission ROMs, can't wait to get 2.2.1
Thanks so much for the help!

Lock Screen Reboots are something that seem to be present in all these Moto Droid phones. I always always always get them on both D1 and Dx and D2, with any ROM, theme, etc. Just seems to be a common problem Motorola has, along with their insane fascination with their Motoblur UI which is also a complete mystery.

mjones1052 said:
Lock Screen Reboots are something that seem to be present in all these Moto Droid phones. I always always always get them on both D1 and Dx and D2, with any ROM, theme, etc. Just seems to be a common problem Motorola has, along with their insane fascination with their Motoblur UI which is also a complete mystery.
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Personally I had a Droid 1 for 6 months and don't remember having any lockscreen reboots, at least not at the frequency of 2-3 a day that I'm having now. Could run the phone for a week without rebooting.
There were a couple of D2 roms that didn't have the reboot issue for me, but most do so maybe it is an issue with the phone like you say. I Don't understand their persistance with motoblur either At least take out eFuse if you're going to throw on motoblur

I've been trying lockbot free to solve my reboot issues. You can basically set it to be exactly the same the normal lockscreen, and so far it seems to be working for me.

I had this problem. Random, intermitten soft reboots during slide to unlock. Ran multiple roms, always had the problem. But I was always removing the same things after sbf. I had found one Dev to seem to find this to follow the music.apk file. So this time I left it on. On my last sbf, I left that in there. Havent had a problem since. Before that I had tried what I thought to be everything, multiple sbfs, multiple roms, completely formatted sd card, and re-sbf'd again. But I always deleted music.apk. Because it always seems to start running, using memory that I thought was unnecessary. Since I dont play music from my phone, other then streaming music. Hope that helps someone. Saved a ton of frustration for me!

But I always deleted music.apk. Because it always seems to start running, using memory that I thought was unnecessary. Since I dont play music from my phone, other then streaming music. Hope that helps someone. Saved a ton of frustration for me!
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Which music.apk is this? Is it the D2's original application or the google music app? Because I've never taken the music app that's been on the phone or came with any ROM and I've had a few not a big number but a few.
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Not sure what the google music one is, but the file is named music.apk

Please clarify this lol. Mine was working great until I installed that damn black theme for fission rom.

I've had a droid1 and I have never had reboot issues with roms before. I think it may just be a d2/x problem
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Yeah the same thing happens to me. I'm pretty sure the dev's for Fission know about it, so hopefully 2.2.1 from them fixes it.
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I had this same problem until yesterday. I installed the Music.zip that came with fission. Now I haven't had a single problem. (I also installed the 10 percent framework and the Camera.zip) I can't remember who posted it but once I installed the Music.zip everything works great.

Im just curious, are you guys only experiencing these reboots with the non-blur roms, or have you experienced them with other roms also? I have only had one reboot, and that was running fission 2.2.1.

tonorice said:
I had this same problem until yesterday. I installed the Music.zip that came with fission. Now I haven't had a single problem. (I also installed the 10 percent framework and the Camera.zip) I can't remember who posted it but once I installed the Music.zip everything works great.
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Was it the "Android_Music.zip" or "D2_Music.zip"?

Help with Nebula ROM ISSUES

After a few issues I was able to get Nebula ROM 1.0.7 up and running on my EPIC. I really like it so far. It is much faster then the other ROM I tried out, plus it doesn't have any of the cheesey sound efffects.
I have used it for a day with no problems. My battery was getting a bit low so I shut the phone down to change batteries. I put the new battery in and when I booted it up it just went into a loop with the Nebula animation, then the 1.0.7 screen would come up and then it would just loop.
I took the battery back out, reinstalled it, and this time it boots into the phone but everything FC's. Took the battery out again and booted it back up and now this time it loads up, some things run, but others FC...
I did the clearing of all caches and user data three times along with a dalevic wipe three times... What gives??
I consider myself a computer geek, but am definately new to the rooting/custom rom thing, so I am a Noob, be gentle!!

socos25 said:
After a few issues I was able to get Nebula ROM 1.0.7 up and running on my EPIC. I really like it so far. It is much faster then the other ROM I tried out, plus it doesn't have any of the cheesey sound efffects.
I have used it for a day with no problems. My battery was getting a bit low so I shut the phone down to change batteries. I put the new battery in and when I booted it up it just went into a loop with the Nebula animation, then the 1.0.7 screen would come up and then it would just loop.
I took the battery back out, reinstalled it, and this time it boots into the phone but everything FC's. Took the battery out again and booted it back up and now this time it loads up, some things run, but others FC...
I did the clearing of all caches and user data three times along with a dalevic wipe three times... What gives??
I consider myself a computer geek, but am definately new to the rooting/custom rom thing, so I am a Noob, be gentle!!
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Firstly, I'm sorry for your troubles and welcome you to the ROM scene. But I would say posting this (or looking through) the Nebula ROM thread or posting this in the Q&A section would likely end up with better results.
Secondly, I also had experienced issues with Nebula ROM 1.0.7. My recommendation is to Odin all the way back to DK28, then work your way back up to Nebula. Also, try flashing Nebula twice onto the device to try to remedy any problems.
Another tip, it seems that if you are using things like Titanium Backup that there are instances of people running into problems of backed up apps causing problems. Starting new is probably the best bet.
Hope this was of some use!

Thank you for the help.. I posted this in General because every other day I see people getting ripped into for not posting in General, so to be honest I have been scared to post anywhere else... But I have read the Nebula thread, not all 110+ pages, but quite a few of them. I am going to Odin back to DK28, format my SD card, and start from scratch, then try reinstalling all of my Apps.
I just think it is wierd that it worked flawlessly for a whole day without one FC and then when I changed my battery it went to hell.
The even stranger thing is some apps work fine, and then others FC everytime. Seems to be no rhyme or reason..
Only other thing I am thinking is I installed a bunch of new apps today and wondered if that could be part of the problem...
Oh well, it has made me more aware of what is going on behind the scenes with my phone.

I could be totally wrong, but I think that's due to it being an ext4 with no journaling rom. Without that safety net its possble for data to be corrupted. sinse I switched to ext4 with no journaling I started letting the phone turn off instead of just pulling out the battery.
Like I said tho I could be wrong on this. Back when I was on the moment I had ext2 which doesn't have journaling either and if the data became currupted somehow, it would cause the symptoms you are explaining.
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socos25 said:
Thank you for the help.. I posted this in General because every other day I see people getting ripped into for not posting in General, so to be honest I have been scared to post anywhere else... But I have read the Nebula thread, not all 110+ pages, but quite a few of them. I am going to Odin back to DK28, format my SD card, and start from scratch, then try reinstalling all of my Apps.
I just think it is wierd that it worked flawlessly for a whole day without one FC and then when I changed my battery it went to hell.
The even stranger thing is some apps work fine, and then others FC everytime. Seems to be no rhyme or reason..
Only other thing I am thinking is I installed a bunch of new apps today and wondered if that could be part of the problem...
Oh well, it has made me more aware of what is going on behind the scenes with my phone.
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Ah, alright. I'm not too certain as I'm unaware of a good deal of the inner workings of Android, but I do hope things get straightened out for you. My phone still has some apps that act up sometimes, mostly JuicePlotter it seems.

Hanging arround... I forgot my last un and passwd(I had an htc tilt a while ago... now I can't post on dev forum...) to use 1.0.7 I think you need ext4 (at least I'm using it) some apps are giving troubles with ext4. So try one by one, and use the cwm3 backup system. At least for me is easier and safer than tit or backup pro.
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I am so glad I didn't update to 1.0.7!

socos25 said:
After a few issues I was able to get Nebula ROM 1.0.7 up and running on my EPIC. I really like it so far. It is much faster then the other ROM I tried out, plus it doesn't have any of the cheesey sound efffects.
I have used it for a day with no problems. My battery was getting a bit low so I shut the phone down to change batteries. I put the new battery in and when I booted it up it just went into a loop with the Nebula animation, then the 1.0.7 screen would come up and then it would just loop.
I took the battery back out, reinstalled it, and this time it boots into the phone but everything FC's. Took the battery out again and booted it back up and now this time it loads up, some things run, but others FC...
I did the clearing of all caches and user data three times along with a dalevic wipe three times... What gives??
I consider myself a computer geek, but am definately new to the rooting/custom rom thing, so I am a Noob, be gentle!!
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Sorry I missed this yesterday, but I wanted to say that I had the same problem updating to 1.07 and I had already gone back to DK28 stock w/ CWM3 before the upgrade. I also restored some apps and settings selectively using titanium. One thing that we may have in common is that I ran my battery ALL the way down accidentally after this upgrade, tried turning it on a couple times (and it would shut down right away) and when I plugged the phone back in I got the repetitive force closes when I tried to turn it on.
Anyhow, I recharged completely, started from stock DK28 again (and wiped the battery stats) and even with restoring the same settings from Titanium I have been running it for about a week now and it is rock solid. So, give it another shot and see how it goes...

The short version is I got everything working!! And Nebula 1.0.7 is the fastest rom I have used yet... But don't get too excited because this is only the third I've tried, and one of the other two is stock DK28.
What I ended up doing was Odin'ing back to DK28, installing CW3, and then doing the 3x3 clears. Then I also formated everything I could find in CW. Installed the Nebula Rom and still had an issue. Rebooted back into CW3 and then reinstalled the ROM again, and whalla.. It works.
I think for some reason you have to install it twice.. Strange I know..

I had force close issues as well, and all I did to fix it was go into CWM, and format/clear cache partition, and format/clear the dalvik-cache. Did this cache clear and dalvik clear 3 times.

coryshad said:
I could be totally wrong, but I think that's due to it being an ext4 with no journaling rom. Without that safety net its possble for data to be corrupted. sinse I switched to ext4 with no journaling I started letting the phone turn off instead of just pulling out the battery.
Like I said tho I could be wrong on this. Back when I was on the moment I had ext2 which doesn't have journaling either and if the data became currupted somehow, it would cause the symptoms you are explaining.
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I second this as a possible problem. Shut the phone off 100% before removing the battery. On the moment that I also had if you removed the battery or used quick boot with ext2 you faced possible data corruption, but there were kernels that would check and fix data. You'd end up in a boot loop though if it didn't repair.
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I've been making sure to shut it off before removing the battery, so far so good. I'm really liking this much better than stock.
Want to try a speedtest with the wifi tethering while going down th road.
I did a speedtest yesterday in my house and got 1.5mb DL, .5mb up. That was on my airrave though.
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[Q] I wish I were 18 again...

Tomorrow is my 46th birthday, and I have tried to stay on top of technological advancements as best possible given my busy schedule. What I have noticed is that my ability to digest the latest techno trends and techniques does have a limit, especially when it interferes with the approaching martini hour at afternoon's end!
I don't know if this is a question or a mid-life existential moment. I bought the Samsung Epic 4G last fall because it was supposed to be cutting edge in terms of hardware for Android, and I as many of you have expressed, I made the decision to buy the Epic because of the promised firmware update that was imminent.
Fast forward half a year, and I now have the 2.2.1 EB13 firmware, which is rooted. I received the SMS yesterday (Wednesday) afternoon from Sprint about Sprint ID coming, but no update. Since I am rooted on EB13 I have no idea whether or not I will ever get the OTA and the last time I tried ODIN I had to take a tranquilizer, so I have no desire to go back to 2.1 to get the OTA.
Will the EC05 OTA be appearing given rooting on EB13? EB13 is giving me problems. I loved moving many (most) apps over to SD (I have a 32 gig card). But WiFi is not good, and I lose the ability to play movies, audio files, visual voicemail, or even hear my phone ringer (all seem connected in terms of the error -- I get an "unable to play message" or "unable to open file" error). I have to turn the phone off completely, then back on, wait for the media scan, etc. for it to go back to normal, then the errors will come back. I was hoping that EC05 would fix this. Maybe not. In perusing and searching I see nobody else has reported these problems which did not exist on DI18 (although I do see reports of WiFi connectivity problems that appear similar).
Does anyone have a bag phone from 1988 they want to trade for my Epic? As I recall, it worked without any hassles or firmware updates. Although it didn't have Angry Birds...
UPDATE: Life is grand at 46 (almost!). I posted later the following URL:
hxxp://forum.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-rooting-roms-hacks/71389-odin-ec05-froyo-ec05-prerooted-cwm-v2-5-1-0-rfs-odexed.html#post761525
When I got home I did as instructed using ODIN, and now I have EC05, with root, no data erasure, all is well! I still see so much consternation going on in the other threads. If you go to this URL and follow the directions, it works without any issues. I noticed immediately my WiFi issues are issues of the past. You can either wait for Sprint/Google to OTA you, under certain limited conditions, or do this, and be whole. Your choice. JJP

There should be an ota coming for those on eb13. As long as you didn't remove any bloatware you should be able to install the update. Besides there might Even be an update.zip on here that you can use before you get the ota. And Odin isn't that bad. I know you worry that it might brick your phone but I've used it about 10 times so far and no problems here. As far as technology goes its developing extremely fast these days. Its hard to keep up with it. Good luck and if you have anymore questions or decide to Odin and need something don't hesitate to ask or even pm me. I answer really quick cause I have it send be an email when.I get a pm.
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Thank you, what a nice response. Hopefully an update.zip will appear for EB13. Stranger things have happened.

drplaud said:
Does anyone have a bag phone from 1988 they want to trade for my Epic? As I recall, it worked without any hassles or firmware updates. Although it didn't have Angry Birds...
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Unfortunately, all the AMPS and Digital TDMA networks have long since been shut down, so it would do you no good

But I do have a bag phone haha
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I wish I was 18 again, but for other reasons.

Yeah it is hard to keep up with tech these days,it changes by the hour now. And Ill have to say that Android is fragmented,this makes it harder; Look at what 2 updates to 2.2.1 and a 2.2.1 leak has done to this Epic forum,it has become a mess,I just hope now that we have CM7 and probably the last update for atleast 6 months,we should start to see some serious progress.
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Odin is only a pain the first time around. Now that you have the proper drivers installed its just a matter of selecting the file and clicking the start button. The only thing you have to watch out for is finding the correct usb port that the driver was installed on. As long as you're plugged into the correct one you're golden.

I do not think I will receive the OTA as I used one click to root after installing EB13. Perhaps this is the time to go Bonsai as I understand it now has EC 05 built in. I apologize, but is there a primer on how specifically to go to Bonsai? I have never flashed before (as I thought I might be arrested). Thanks.
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You mentioned you're rooted. Do you know if you have CWM3 installed?
Its all a little trial and error but once everything is properly installed flashing roms is a cinch. I'm a big fan of the ACS roms. Bonsai worked well on my phone but there were a handful of idiosyncracies present that I could not put up with. Of course YMMV but don't hesitate to try different roms until you find one that your phone works well with.

stir fry a lot said:
You mentioned you're rooted. Do you know if you have CWM3 installed?
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I believe so. I used one click root (update.bat).
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drplaud said:
I believe so. I used one click root (update.bat).
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Cool. If you want to give EC05 a shot, go to this thread and download the modem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1003447
Insert the modem into the Phone section of odin and hit start

Put aside some time before proceeding. If you have the correct CWM installed it won't take more than ten minutes but play it safe.
Download a rom of your choice, plug your phone into your computer and place it in the root of your SD card. You can download multiple roms if you want to see which works best for you. You will lose all your data the first time installing any new rom as it is not really recommended that you transfer settings of apps between different roms. Once you find a rom your're happy with you can simply update it it with the newest version without having to wipe your data however. Its really not as bad as it sounds and the ACS rom comes with an excellent app recovery program called MyBackup Pro Root that you can backup your apps and data with. You can use it to transfer apps between different roms and even some data but data from different roms can sometimes give you problems and is not really recommended. I have transferred data with some apps without any problems however. Its really just data that is tied to the system itself that will probably give you problems.
Unplug your phone from your computer and long press the Power Button, select Reboot, and then quickly hold down the Power, Volume Down and Camera Buttons.
Now press and hold down the Power, Camera, and volume down buttons. It should boot to the samsung logo and then to a black screen with orange text on it.
Use the volume keys to navigate and the power button to make selections. Choose Wipe Data/Factory Reset and wipe it 3x, then do the same for the Cache Partition and Dalvik Cache which can be found in the advanced options.
Select Go Back and navigate to Install Zip from SD card. Choose the rom you downloaded to it and you're good to go.
If after you do the three finger boot and you're not brought to a black screen with orange text you will need to install the correct CWM. If its black with green you have an old version and if you get a different screen than that this means that you do not have CWM at all. If this is so, just navigate to reboot and press the Home key to select it.

Something to think about
Thank you for the very helpful responses. I will ponder what the best option is, but it may indeed be time to explore custom ROMS, and your responses have given me the courage to do so. Many thanks! Joe

If he doesn't have cwm3 then he's gonna have to run the one click root with cwm3 for eb13 to be able.to flash bonsai. If I were to guess he has cwm 2.5.1.0 installed. On another note HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
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I would Odin to EC05 first and see if it fixes anything for you. If not, reboot your phone into CWM and if you have the correct (orange and black) version, just reboot load the ACS rom onto to your phone and give it a try. If you're not happy with it or even if you are make a backup with Mybackup Root and explore other roms until you find one that works for you.
If you make a backup I would advise making separate backups of your apks, data for your apks, and photos as it makes it much faster to get back to where you were originally. Another tip for my backup is after making one go to View and double check that it actually made one as sometimes it will not.
I would have thrown this phone away by now if it weren't for the ACS rom btw. Its much smoother, has better battery life, doesn't skip keys even without the patch that they will be implementing soon and doesn't have all the god awful bloatware.

musclehead84 said:
If he doesn't have cwm3 then he's gonna have to run the one click root with cwm3 for eb13 to be able.to flash bonsai. If I were to guess he has cwm 2.5.1.0 installed. On another note HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
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Where do I obtain one click root with cwm3? Thanks.

musclehead84 said:
There should be an ota coming for those on eb13. As long as you didn't remove any bloatware you should be able to install the update. Besides there might Even be an update.zip on here that you can use before you get the ota. And Odin isn't that bad. I know you worry that it might brick your phone but I've used it about 10 times so far and no problems here. As far as technology goes its developing extremely fast these days. Its hard to keep up with it. Good luck and if you have anymore questions or decide to Odin and need something don't hesitate to ask or even pm me. I answer really quick cause I have it send be an email when.I get a pm.
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stir fry a lot said:
Odin is only a pain the first time around. Now that you have the proper drivers installed its just a matter of selecting the file and clicking the start button. The only thing you have to watch out for is finding the correct usb port that the driver was installed on. As long as you're plugged into the correct one you're golden.
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I agree with all of these except that odin never gave me trouble even the first time i used it..
Odin is cake just read the simple directions and everything should be fine, people dont use there heads when they get that android dude and the computer on there epic, the most ive been through is acore of force closes but its so easy to fix,
people just dont read the instructions all the way through,
Yesterday i was scared to update the prl manually but i read step by step instructions had to play around and find what i needed to do which wasnt on the instructions, and it was cake, almost just as easy as clicking the system updates/update prl button in the settings
but 98% of the time the instructions are flawless and work as long as you read carefully and do step by step.

drplaud said:
Where do I obtain one click root with cwm3? Thanks.
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Development section stickied
Called One Click Clockwork 3.0.0.6
Oh yes happy birthday as well, have a great one!!

IMO, if you are on EB13, and want to update to EC05, the EASIEST way to do it, if you can wait a bit, is to use the stock SWUpdate for EB13, which will convert your phone back to a clean fresh stock install of EB13, then once/when it is released, install the EB13 to EC05 update via the over the air process, then reroot and move forward.
that all depends on samsung/sprint releasing a EB13 to EC05 OTA update, and your ability to wait for it though

force close when battery pulled

I am not sure if this has been resolved if it has please point me in right direction to thread. everytime I pull my battery out everything system force closes (messaging, phone, swype, android process. etc..) I read somewhere that sometimes clearing data or cache fixes this although I've had no luck, the only way I get around this is restoring to one of my back ups. is there a faster or better way around this? also I am rooted froyo 2.2/EC05 with various roms.

flopelayo3 said:
I am not sure if this has been resolved if it has please point me in right direction to thread. everytime I pull my battery out everything system force closes (messaging, phone, swype, android process. etc..) I read somewhere that sometimes clearing data or cache fixes this although I've had no luck, the only way I get around this is restoring to one of my back ups. is there a faster or better way around this? also I am rooted froyo 2.2/EC05 with various roms.
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Are you perhaps running on the ext4 file system with journaling off?
Maybe switch back to journaling if this is the case. If not disregard and wait til a better answer comes along.

flopelayo3 said:
I am not sure if this has been resolved if it has please point me in right direction to thread. everytime I pull my battery out everything system force closes (messaging, phone, swype, android process. etc..) I read somewhere that sometimes clearing data or cache fixes this although I've had no luck, the only way I get around this is restoring to one of my back ups. is there a faster or better way around this? also I am rooted froyo 2.2/EC05 with various roms.
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I asked the same question in a thread but sorry i cant remember which thread but i was told that doing a battery pull with phone on can cause data corruption much like how when u just like when u dont shut down ur computer properly. Hope this helps.
The only fix i was able to find was a system restore.
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flopelayo3 said:
I am not sure if this has been resolved if it has please point me in right direction to thread. everytime I pull my battery out everything system force closes (messaging, phone, swype, android process. etc..) I read somewhere that sometimes clearing data or cache fixes this although I've had no luck, the only way I get around this is restoring to one of my back ups. is there a faster or better way around this? also I am rooted froyo 2.2/EC05 with various roms.
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Pulling your battery shouldn't cause this issue, unless you pulled it before the phone was completely shut down. (You have to wait for it to go black and vibrate. This vibration happens anywhere from 2 seconds to 15 seconds after the phone goes dark, depending on which rom you are using).
It seems to be a "no journaling" issue with 95% of the people that this has happened to (including myself!!) "No journaling" is a faster set-up, but will not write needed data in the event of an unexpected/improper shut down.
No journaling/journaling is a choice we have been given by the great developers here, so it really comes down to personal preference.
As a side-note: If you have restored a backup that had jounaling "on", you don't have to worry about turning it back on now. I believe, from what I have read on here, that it reverted automatically. Also - if you restored a backup that was not ext4, then I don't think you are ext4 anymore either.
Hopefully I haven't taken up all this space telling you something you already know. In any case, I hope this helps a little!

This happened to me last night and I was pissed cause I would have lost a lot of unsaved numbers. I found the easiest fix though. Boot into clockwork > advanced > fix permissions. That simple.
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Don't pull your battery until off........... these are not simple devices you can go yanking the battery out of whenever you want and its still gonna work properly.
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If journaling is on then you can.
To (re)enable journaling just make a NAND backup then restore it.

jbadboy2007 said:
Don't pull your battery until off........... these are not simple devices you can go yanking the battery out of whenever you want and its still gonna work properly.
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Sooo how long should we stare at a frozen screen until we do pull the batt?
I finally gave up on custom roms and am sticking with stock, just for this reason, way too many FCs then I do a batt pull and I gotta reflash the rom and hope it works
.. I guess this phone just can't handle the flash dance like my HTCs could.
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Guess no one tried doing what I did. Cause, you know, it's SO much harder than reflashing an entire rom and losing your data...
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I gave up on custom ROMs as well. I'm on cleaned up stock and I get great battery life with plenty of speed and no debilitating errors. If (or I should say WHEN) an app decides to go batty, it only hurts itself and not my entire system.

just happened to me smh....

Turn journaling on, and search or something
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Listen too him he is absolutly correct. Turn journaling on. Also you don't have to stare at a blank phone it will vibrate when its done shutting down after the display is off

Go here for 2 scripts to enable and disable journaling
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071723

silver03wrx said:
Listen too him he is absolutly correct. Turn journaling on. Also you don't have to stare at a blank phone it will vibrate when its done shutting down after the display is off
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I was going to tell him 2-3 hours but you have to watch cuz the led might flash and show you it's ready. I'm only feeling semi-helpful today. I gave a great fix for this on the SRF thread if you're OCD about backing up like I can be.