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HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2?
Torn between these dual core beasts.
Just a very small overview:
HTC:
Screen
Battery
Internal storage (1GB lol)
VGA Front Cam
RAM
Weight. 148 gr. Holy Moly. We should send the phone to fat ca...errr weight management retreat lol
screen resolution: qHD
HTC Sense
Galaxy:
All things HTC has red are better
The thing HTC has green
Easy decision for me.
I think Galaxy S2 is better.... at least in Korea.rep
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sensation is running gingerbread..
@OP, C'mon there are tons of threads to talk about this comparison use the damn search button !!
Sense vs TouchWiz if a slapped on interface matters, sense is lovely! Hardware wise SG2 wins.
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both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
the only advantage you will have with the HTC if you call it an advantage is the HTC S 3.0 and i wouldnt call it an advantage.
besides. and the most important factor you need to consider. the HTC now is using a Locked bootloader. meaning you wont get custom roms for sure. and considering how the incredible S is been locked for 3 months now without any luck to open it. i would say avoid HTC phones for now
i will not even buy the HTC for 100$. locked bootloader = useless phone for me.
i learned that the hard way from the atrix. and never again.
Having a lower weight does not necessarily mean 'better'. I think build quality in terms of materials (partial reason of the higher weight) is another plus for the Sensation. On the other hand, I prefer the dimensions and shape of the S2.
Furthermore the Sensation's camera has an instant capture feature but the S2 cam has a pretty fast capture too.
Looking at all the + and - I think the S2 is the overall winner.
^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!
Guitarfreak26 said:
^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!
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I wouldn't want to put CM7 on that as the browser would loose any GPU acceleration and be as crappy as other dual core phone, I'll take it as it is with all the optimization from samsung included for performance and battery life
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
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We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
if so, thats more reason to avoid the Sensation. because that GPU is lower than the Nexus S GPU. let alone come close to SG2. that thing will do marathon around the Adreno 220 and that is based both trying to run Nintendo 64 Emulator at the same time same game.
hell i just hope you made a typo and you are not talking about that old horrible GPU :/
Here is a poll for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995752
I do not understand how HTC can build such a ****.
Do not or can not?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
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Nope thats the 205
saveferris said:
Nope thats the 205
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oh ok then. i thought its the same GPU. i was about to throw you out of the window lol
we will see. honestly i dont have high hopes for it because the 205 came after the hummingbird and still sucked compared to it.
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
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Just want to say : HTC Sensation also has Gorilla Glass. And NFC is not yet confirmed on all models :/...
And also
PS : I Didn't add the SoC though the Mali-400(Galaxy S2) probably is going to be a better GPU, but we can't verify for now. And Bootloader is probably not locked on Galaxy S2 but for the HTC Sensation it is quite sure.
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mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
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r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have
saveferris said:
We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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You cannot compare the number of cores on a GPU unless it is the same architecture, it doesn't make sense at all.
A single core GPU can easily be ten times faster than quad core GPU. It is just how they choose to arrange the GPU-architecture in order to have versions with different speeds.
In fact, even a 300$ gaming card for PC's is single core.
k87 said:
r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have
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Don't be disgusted of womens because of this video, it's only to show face recognition!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6873r6Skm8
Sony is doing a pretty good job with optimizing software for their hardware. The xperia SP which has a dual core processor beats the xperia Z and the Zl and some other quadcore phones in benchmarks. I hope sony will make improvements to the xperia Z as well. The only thing sony needs to work on is their displays, the SP seems to have about the same level blacks as the Z and the contrast ratio is also very low.
Benchmarks: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-review-924p5.php
All this shows is... sony are very lazy with their 'flag ship' if a mid range phone can beat it in most tests....
kalo88 said:
All this shows is... sony are very lazy with their 'flag ship' if a mid range phone can beat it in most tests....
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No man, it's all because of that 720p resolution. Z have 1080p with the same GPU.
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According to the GSM arena review, the contrast ratio on the SP is better than Z. How could a mid-range phone has a better contrast than a flagship phone?
I can not understand why Sony does not use ips TFT
某龙兄 said:
I can not understand why Sony does not use ips TFT
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But it does (for the Xperia Z).
windozeanti said:
According to the GSM arena review, the contrast ratio on the SP is better than Z. How could a mid-range phone has a better contrast than a flagship phone?
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Sony have a habit of doing stuff like that though, when they released the Xperia T it was meant to be the flagship yet the V had certain features that were far better...
If you make a flagship it should be the BEST! of what you can do.. not parts of it.
Lets make things clear.
First of all, the Sony Xperia SP is indeed a fast phone, but not faster than de Z or ZL. The reason why the SP scores higher on some benchmarks is easy to explain. The SP has a 720p display, while the Z and ZL both have a 1080p display. That's about twice as many pixels to render. In the real benchmarks such as Antutu or Linpack, the Z and ZL clearly have their advantage.
Second of all the software on the Sony Xperia SP is probably more mature (albeit with two months) than the Z and ZL software. GSM Arena and other reviewers just benchmark their phones when they receive them, so probably with pre-release software. Since the SP basicly has the same platform, you can easily guess why some benchmarks on the SP are a bit higher. But when you will test with new software on the Z or ZL, the difference should be minimal.
Lastly, Sony uses IPS LCD on their phones. If you don't think that's true, you're just ignorant.
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What's the need of this? If you're not happy with your phone that's your problem... But this kind of comparisons are useless. If your neighbor's car is better than yours even if he paid less, does that mean your car is bad?
Instead of doing this things, try to enjoy your phone please.
lovemyarc said:
No man, it's all because of that 720p resolution. Z have 1080p with the same GPU.
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But if you compare nexus 4 with xz.
Both have same cpu and gpu.
But nexus 4 comes with 720 p screen unlike XZ
And when benchmarked, XZ showed better results than nexus 4.
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
But if you compare nexus 4 with xz.
Both have same cpu and gpu.
But nexus 4 comes with 720 p screen unlike XZ
And when benchmarked, XZ showed better results than nexus 4.
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come back to the saying...numbers isnt everything. 1080p isnt something amazing either, for a screen size this small you will not see it. Buy this phone because of it durability not because of it spec.
G1_enthusiast said:
come back to the saying...numbers isnt everything. 1080p isnt something amazing either, for a screen size this small you will not see it. Buy this phone because of it durability not because of it spec.
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Bull****. Numbers is almost everything. Aesthetics are important too, but would you buy a phone that has only a dual-core, qHD screen and 2G because it looks beautiful? Nope, don't think so.
Comparing to the SP is also nonsense. It's like comparing a current-gen pc with a slightly less current-gen pc. Both are fast, but the higher end one should clearly be the winner.
Finally, 1080p on 5" is amazing. Anyone who says it isn't is ignorant. I had a Galaxy Note which has a pixel density of 285ppi, which would be high enough. But I still see the difference with this device. It is just amazing! Also the quad-core, 2GB of RAM and fast GPU are amazing too. If you don't think it matters, buy a Note or any other last-gen phone and see for yourself...
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Bull****. Numbers is almost everything. Aesthetics are important too, but would you buy a phone that has only a dual-core, qHD screen and 2G because it looks beautiful? Nope, don't think so.
Finally, 1080p on 5" is amazing. Anyone who says it isn't is ignorant. I had a Galaxy Note which has a pixel density of 285ppi, which would be high enough. But I still see the difference with this device. It is just amazing! Also the quad-core, 2GB of RAM and fast GPU are amazing too. If you don't think it matters, buy a Note or any other last-gen phone and see for yourself...
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um yea I would I am actually debating on keeping the S3 over the Z because I can attach a bigger battery to it, hence i dont care about esthetic, It's a ****ing phone not a ****ing ferrari.
you cant even see the 1080p on a 17in laptop why would u see it on a 5in display. PPI can be change via root app big deal
http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/
here's a little reading, stop buying into the marketing gimmick, this is just like the statement "the larger the MP the better the picture" um no its not, any photographer can tell you the glass is what make the picture better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLD42QafIo pause at 3:57 thats how close you got to look to see the difference in 720p and 1080p
G1_enthusiast said:
um yea I would I am actually debating on keeping the S3 over the Z because I can attach a bigger battery to it, hence i dont care about esthetic, It's a ****ing phone not a ****ing ferrari.
you cant even see the 1080p on a 17in laptop why would u see it on a 5in display. PPI can be change via root app big deal
http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/
here's a little reading, stop buying into the marketing gimmick, this is just like the statement "the larger the MP the better the picture" um no its not, any photographer can tell you the glass is what make the picture better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLD42QafIo pause at 3:57 thats how close you got to look to see the difference in 720p and 1080p
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You're just wrong. If you used your phone at about 0.6 feet away, which is 18cm you could probably tell the difference. Furthermore, because the human eye (according to Apple) has a ppi of about 300, 400+ ppi is a tremendous difference from 286 (Galaxy Note) ppi. Which is just below our 330ppi limit.
Also you can't change the ppi (which is what we are talking about here) via root or anything. You can change the 'dpi', which is the scaling of the Android OS. The Z uses a 480dpi setting, which is a bit more than the display is (which is 443) but it scales better. The Galaxy Note has a set dpi of 320, which is also a bit higher than the 286ppi of the screen.
Regarding the Youtube video.... I'm not even taking you serious anymore. The camera and your monitor make a huge difference on that perception.
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You're just wrong. If you used your phone at about 0.6 feet away, which is 18cm you could probably tell the difference. Furthermore, because the human eye (according to Apple) has a ppi of about 300, 400+ ppi is a tremendous difference from 286 (Galaxy Note) ppi. Which is just below our 330ppi limit.
Also you can't change the ppi (which is what we are talking about here) via root or anything. You can change the 'dpi', which is the scaling of the Android OS. The Z uses a 480dpi setting, which is a bit more than the display is (which is 443) but it scales better. The Galaxy Note has a set dpi of 320, which is also a bit higher than the 286ppi of the screen.
Regarding the Youtube video.... I'm not even taking you serious anymore. The camera and your monitor make a huge difference on that perception.
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ok be in denial thats fine with me, i'll give you the point on the DPI and PPI but I just gave you an article on resolution and sizes, if you refuse it then that your right. I dont stare at my phone from 2in away so its fine with me. I dont pick phone like its a part of me or for esthetic looking, i pick it because its use as a phone, I am not going to sit there buy into the marketing gimmick, if I did i would have waited for the S4, as i'm sure the S4 outperform the Z in all hardware spec. the only thing is the plastic shell which doesnt bother me.
Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
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Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
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Think the biggest factor is the benchmarks the SP excelled in was more to do with GPU performance that was run in its native resolution. Which was only 720p
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Ba7rani123 said:
Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
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Also not true. Since version 3, Android nativly supports multiple cores and can handle them by itself.
Ba7rani123 said:
Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
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I tend to agree, quad core is not needed, RAM on the other hand....2 GB was the biggest upgrade ever, solve lag issue, launcher redraw problem. everything and anything can run on my Dual Core S3. So processor is not a big factor at all.
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=856408
HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more
Anybody heard about this beast or is this nonsense?
I'd say nonsense but who knows
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I kinda doubt it'll be a snapdragon 810... Qualcomm's website even says it won't be available till mid 2015...
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/810
" The Snapdragon 810 processor is anticipated to begin sampling in the second half of 2014 and expected to be available in commercial devices by the first half of 2015."
I'm betting on the K1 processor from Nvidia. But if it's the 64bit version it'll only be a dual core... Not sure how well most tablet apps and the Android OS is coded for 4 threads... So dual core may be fine...
3 or 4 GB would sound more realistic to me. Btw, if this device actually releases with a 4:3 display, I´m not going to buy it :good:
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3 or 4 GB would sound more realistic to me. Btw, if this device actually releases with a 4:3 display, I´m not going to buy it :good:
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Yeah, most important specs are screen size and aspect ratio, if it is 8.4"+ with 16:10 ratio I am defintely getting it, but I won't ever buy a 4:3 tablet b/c how much I do video streaming on it.
jblaze10 said:
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=856408
HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more
Anybody heard about this beast or is this nonsense?
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Those specs are just a pipedream.
It was reported over 2 weeks ago on Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/21/this-is-volantis-htcs-nine-inch-nexus-tablet/
These specs are more realistic to me:
•8.9" Display at 2048x1440 (281ppi)
•NVIDIA Logan 64-bit processor (Tegra K1)
•2GB RAM
•16/32GB internal storage
•8MP OIS main camera, 3MP front facing camera
•Aluminum zero-gap construction
•Stereo front-facing speakers
•8.91"x5.98"x0.31" body (that's 22.63x15.19x0.79cm)
•418g (or 427g with LTE) (that's 14.74/15.1 ounces)
If it's the Tegra k1, benchmarks of the new nexus will blow everything out of the water... And wait till custom kernels with overclocking...
5 GB RAM.... I'm posting this from a PC with only 2GB of RAM xD Phones will be more powerful than PC's at this rate.
Wishful thinking has once again made it to the rumour mill, I see.
Fake.
No company is stupid enough to sell 5GB when there are none yet with 4GB. It makes more business sense to sell a 4GB one first. (same principle as why we've got 2K and now a few 4K tv's whilst they're already capable of making 8K for several years.)
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Lol at this thread
but we got light bleed!
i just heard about hTC One M9 will be release at MWC 2015. might use Snapdragon 810 under hood. Might lot of my dream specs especially LTE cat.6.
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LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
Benchmarks doesn't bother me. The G3 didn't do to we'll either, and mine is definitely fast enough and are more or less lag free since the lollipop update. Still love the G3 so I'll think I pass this year. But I definitely like the looks of the G4 and I'm really excited to see how much better the screen is and how well the camera will perform in manual mode [emoji106] [emoji2]
Benchmarks won't show the really benefits. The device is really smooth and can open apps as fast as any other flagship. I mean the camera app can open in 0.6 secs and take a phot at the same time. If you do not care about superficial numbers the device won't disappoint as a daily driver.
Wrong thread
The scores aren't surprising. The G4 will have only 2 A57s compared to the S6, and the GPU is noticeably different from the 810. There's also LDDR3 in the G4 while the S6 uses LDDR4 & a very fast eMMc chip.
In normal usage I imagine most won't notice the core count. Because of the G4's high price I hope someone can compare its speed side by side with a zenfone 2 or even another Snapdragon 615/800/805/etc.
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Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
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LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Not good?
I read "First impressions are good, the Korean manufacturer seems to have made the right choices, abandoning the Snapdragon 810 and developing its own photo sensor."
I don't sweet these at all. I want to use it in my hand and see myself as that is more real than anything.
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
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LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
jeky82 said:
Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
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That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
i9100g user said:
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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You just echoed my mind. If I see the G4 that way [compared to G3] the benchmark stuffs should not be much of a headache/nightmare.
onlinejobwork said:
Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
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Until we have a true lens zoom phone (kind of physically hard to do), I am not a big fan of using phones for main photos. Nothing cracks me up more though than the media or some posters talking about photography and then actually review the digital zoom on phones, which is literally just digital zooming of the original focal point. No different than taking the picture and later post zooming the pictures.
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i9100g user said:
That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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The gpu in the 801 choked with 1440p and one of the reasons for the heat, judder and battery life impact. The 808's gpu can handle 1440p and is within the mean of it's threshold of performance, but the 801 was at the very top of it's ceiling for 1440p- hence the issues. Well, that and the gosh awful lcd technology used for the the display on the G3. LG took a semi efficient 1080p design and shrunk it to a very inefficient 1440p on the G3.
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Jonfensu said:
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
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What else could they do besides wait about six more months? Apple and Samsung have secured most other chipset fab production and the only other option is the second tier chips that are in the cheaper devices. The road map was to use the 810, but the poor thermals with the 810 resulted in going with the 808 (810 light). The other option was go with the 805, but spec chasing will not allow that. The 808 was a compromise, but LG is hoping the design and camera offsets this for the spec and media hounds.
Qualcomm riding shotgun at the LG press event was very telling of the heat the chipset maker is in right now.
Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
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Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
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Looks better because the HTC one M9 is missing.
BillyxAllen said:
There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
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Was it just me or did the G4 burn through the benchmark faster than any of the other phones even though it started last? What's with that? Is it a difference in user (interface) difference? Does this translate to a better performing phone overall that cannot be quantified with a benchmark?
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I noticed that and was wondering the same thing tbh
Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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In theory it should do.... I suppose there is a kernel in the m9 thread for disabling the cores....
Thanks! . I'll look into it. I have a G Flex 2 though v.v
Hello!
So... i have looked all over the internet to find what the difference is between these phones and all i can find is that they have the same camera setup at the rear.
But.. the pixel 3 takes marginally better pictures then the pixel 2.
How can it? Is it depending on the software? The camera app?
If it software then it should be able to get? ( Already seen some ports)
The question: whats the difference that we cant get or can get?
I'd say it's a mixture of both software, and an updated chip inside the 3.
I suspect it's software, more than anything else
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I'd say it's a mixture of both software, and an updated chip inside the 3.
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Okey,
But what chip makes it possible to take better pictures due to the same optics?
I havent seen any spec of a new chip? Beside the SD 845
Danne9900 said:
Okey,
But what chip makes it possible to take better pictures due to the same optics?
I havent seen any spec of a new chip? Beside the SD 845
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The Camera Sensor itself received an upgrade - it's not the same as in the pixel 2.
Danne9900 said:
Okey,
But what chip makes it possible to take better pictures due to the same optics?
I havent seen any spec of a new chip? Beside the SD 845
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It's the pixel visual core (PVC) chip. The Pixel 2/XL has this chip as well, however, they made improvements to the chip in the new Pixel 3/XL, along with really focusing on the software aspect of the phone. Sticking with a single rear camera is Google's way of giving other companies the bird saying "we can do better than you with only a single rear camera" IMO.
The headline specs are the same
12.2 MP, f/1.8, 28mm (wide), 1/2.55", 1.4µm, OIS, dual pixel
But it is apparently a different(newer) sensor. That combined with upgraded Pixel Visual Core chip for processing lead to slightly improved images