New to wp7. Focus vs omnia 7? (Tmobile user) - Focus General

I know that this topic has probably been posted 1000 time, but I would like to know which phone would be a better choice for use with tmobile. (the lack of 3g is a non-issue to me, I don't have a data plan nor do I plan on getting one) Which is the better phone? The omnia looks like it's built better, but the focus has expandable memory.
Also, how would updating work with an unlocked omnia 7?

gonintendo said:
I know that this topic has probably been posted 1000 time, but I would like to know which phone would be a better choice for use with tmobile. (the lack of 3g is a non-issue to me, I don't have a data plan nor do I plan on getting one) Which is the better phone? The omnia looks like it's built better, but the focus has expandable memory.
Also, how would updating work with an unlocked omnia 7?
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Had Omnia7 on 3. Switched to Focus.
Updated both fine, no issues whatsoever.
I switched to Focus because I use the space (7 of 24 GB free)
The choice is yours and as you put it, Omnia7 is built better but both have pluses and minuses, some according to taste.
For example, I prefer Focus because of expandable memory, less weight and rounded edges, no metallic (cold) feel, in this order.

Is there any word on mango for the focus? I seem to remember some sort of holdup with nodo.

gonintendo said:
Is there any word on mango for the focus? I seem to remember some sort of holdup with nodo.
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as long as you have a 1.3 focus, you can install any of the mango builds (i have rtm 7720 on mine right now)
i think the nodo update for 1.4 focuses was rolling out now, if that's the case, you should be able to update that to mango as well (i think)

adiliyo said:
as long as you have a 1.3 focus, you can install any of the mango builds (i have rtm 7720 on mine right now)
i think the nodo update for 1.4 focuses was rolling out now, if that's the case, you should be able to update that to mango as well (i think)
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How can I figure out which focus rev I have?

adiliyo said:
as long as you have a 1.3 focus, you can install any of the mango builds (i have rtm 7720 on mine right now)
i think the nodo update for 1.4 focuses was rolling out now, if that's the case, you should be able to update that to mango as well (i think)
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So does it matter whether or not I get a rev 1.3 focus?

on the sticker under the battery (on the phone) it will say rev 1.3 or rev 1.4, it might say it on the box too, but i can't find mine to check.
if nodo is live for 1.4 it shouldn't matter which one you get, but if you can pick up a 1.3, i think you'll have less issues.

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So does it matter whether or not I get a rev 1.3 focus?
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It does matter, rev 1.4 has different hardware and Mango updates for it are "delayed".
Best and easiest way to find the revision without even removing the battery, read my post here. Not all Focus versions have the revision on the sticker. Roger doesn't.

Ended up getting a rev 1.3 focus. Thanks for all the help guys!
Will I have to re-unlock after updating?

gonintendo said:
Ended up getting a rev 1.3 focus. Thanks for all the help guys!
Will I have to re-unlock after updating?
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So far, here's how it goes:
Unlockable by Chevron are versions:
7004
7008
In order to unlock, you need to have one of these. If you have a greater version, you will need to downgrade/flash one of these roms to get 7004.
Then, install Samsung Tools and run it. You only need to do this once. Do NOT connect to Zune, except to install this app. Then, after running this, check that you are still unlocked with Chevron, it should display "Relock".
Update to 739x (NoDo, that's 7390/7392) and your unlock will keep.
To update to Mango and keep unlock (sideloading), read here. Keep in mind this hasn't been tested for Focus, yet.

EnderPsp said:
So far, here's how it goes:
Unlockable by Chevron are versions:
7004
7008
In order to unlock, you need to have one of these. If you have a greater version, you will need to downgrade/flash one of these roms to get 7004.
Then, install Samsung Tools and run it. You only need to do this once. Do NOT connect to Zune, except to install this app. Then, after running this, check that you are still unlocked with Chevron, it should display "Relock".
Update to 739x (NoDo, that's 7390/7392) and your unlock will keep.
To update to Mango and keep unlock (sideloading), read here. Keep in mind this hasn't been tested for Focus, yet.
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By "unlock" I meant the ability to use the phone on another carrier. (Tmobile)

gonintendo said:
By "unlock" I meant the ability to use the phone on another carrier. (Tmobile)
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I should make a FAQ for Focus
Formatting/flashing the phone doesn't affect SIM lock.
Locks are in NVRAM - you do not overwrite this section by flashing firmware or formatting. If the device is already SIM unlocked, flashing/updating/downgrading the ROM will keep the phone unlocked.

EnderPsp said:
I should make a FAQ for Focus
Formatting/flashing the phone doesn't affect SIM lock.
Locks are in NVRAM - you do not overwrite this section by flashing firmware or formatting. If the device is already SIM unlocked, flashing/updating/downgrading the ROM will keep the phone unlocked.
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Thank you very much! A noob's faq would be great. How about have a "WP7 general" section where everybody can contribute and a phone specific section?

gonintendo said:
Thank you very much! A noob's faq would be great. How about have a "WP7 general" section where everybody can contribute and a phone specific section?
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You're welcome. I believe the forum is already organized in such a way one can post in the phone specific area
Will try to make a firstcomers guide to Focus sometime this week.

EnderPsp said:
You're welcome. I believe the forum is already organized in such a way one can post in the phone specific area
Will try to make a firstcomers guide to Focus sometime this week.
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What I meant was that maybe we should have a collaborative wp7 guide that goes up in all wp7 phone sections and then a focus specific guide written only by focus users.

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[Q] Question regarding NoDo update on Focus

Hi can someone tell me if I have an unlocked Focus here in Pakistan, will I get an update when AT&T releases it or right after when MS releases it(which they have)?
We could tell you that, but it depends on when we get it here.
ammarmalik said:
Hi can someone tell me if I have an unlocked Focus here in Pakistan, will I get an update when AT&T releases it or right after when MS releases it(which they have)?
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Is the OS branded? Meaning when you first got it, did you have AT&T apps? If so, then you'll have to wait until AT&T lets MS release it. Otherwise you should be getting it soon. The NoDo release like all WP7 updates so far is a gradual roll-out.
Actually, here's a better response: Do you have the pre-update?
I'll have to check on the pre-update. So AT&T can control updates on my phone all the way in Pakistan? :S
ammarmalik said:
I'll have to check on the pre-update. So AT&T can control updates on my phone all the way in Pakistan? :S
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If your phone is AT&T branded on the OS-level, then it can control updates anywhere for AT&T Focus phones.
So it can be unlocked to be used anywhere in the world, and yet be branded on the OS-level by AT&T?
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So it can be unlocked to be used anywhere in the world, and yet be branded on the OS-level by AT&T?
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If your phone has AT&T apps, then it's an AT&T phone. Maybe I'm wrong. However, I think if you buy it locked, its updates are locked to that carrier's schedule. If you have the pre-update, then this conversation is moot. Just go to your About page and see if your OS version is 7.0.7004 or 7.0.7008. If it's 8, then you should be looking for NoDo come out anytime now. If you're on 4, then you won't get it until the AT&T folks get it unless you Dev-unlock it and remove the branding information.
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If you're on 4, then you won't get it until the AT&T folks get it unless you Dev-unlock it and remove the branding information.
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How does one do that with a Dev-unlocked phone? I tried to get to the reg keys I found on some guys tweet but it tells me that they are restricted.... any help would be great
2GStyle said:
How does one do that with a Dev-unlocked phone? I tried to get to the reg keys I found on some guys tweet but it tells me that they are restricted.... any help would be great
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I'm trying to find that out too. Chris Walsh is supposed to be working on a post for people with the HTC Mozart, and (theoretically) the steps shouldn't be too different.
Just as an example, I have an unlocked ATT Focus on Rogers in Canada. I was getting no update available. As soon as I removed the ATT branding using the registry patch, my phone immediately told me that I had the pre-nodo update ready.
Hopefully as soon as Microsoft releases teh nodo for the Focus I will get it instead of having to wait for ATT to approve it.
SR
sydneyrodgers said:
Just as an example, I have an unlocked ATT Focus on Rogers in Canada. I was getting no update available. As soon as I removed the ATT branding using the registry patch, my phone immediately told me that I had the pre-nodo update ready.
Hopefully as soon as Microsoft releases teh nodo for the Focus I will get it instead of having to wait for ATT to approve it.
SR
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Hi,
can you quickly point me to the info about how to remove the ATT branding using the registry. First time I hear about the possibility...
Sounds promising!
Thanks!
cheers,
Alex
You need a registry editor. Then go to HKLM\System\Platform\\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOperator
it should say ATT-US. Delete the ATT-US & leave it blank
save - reboot & you're done. You should now get notified of the pre-update.
SR
wait so is there a reason why we shouldnt all do this registry edit and get nodo today? what are the consequences of doing this?
No NoDo
cgrizz said:
wait so is there a reason why we shouldnt all do this registry edit and get nodo today? what are the consequences of doing this?
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I believe what the posters are saying is that you will get the pre-update to 7008, you will not get NoDo.
so am i better off with 7008. should i do this update so i can get nodo faster or should i just sit and wait with 7004
This assumes you have permission to see that registry value. On my phone Everything under \System is restricted, with no visible subfolder Platform. And since the key presumably exists, you can't just create a key called Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOperator with blank value (at least I can't do it) because that key can't be overwritten.
HTC devs have of course already figured out how to do it on their phones:
http://blog.walshie.me/2011/03/23/h...-and-get-your-windows-phone-updates-htc-only/
I'm probably switching to an HD7S so I can feel the love of XDA devs again.
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mlekas said:
This assumes you have permission to see that registry value. On my phone Everything under \System is restricted, with no visible subfolder Platform. And since the key presumably exists, you can't just create a key called Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOperator with blank value (at least I can't do it) because that key can't be overwritten.
HTC devs have of course already figured out how to do it on their phones:
http://blog.walshie.me/2011/03/23/h...-and-get-your-windows-phone-updates-htc-only/
I'm probably switching to an HD7S so I can feel the love of XDA devs again.
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You need the SamsungRegistry app not the TouchXperience RegistryEditor app in order to see and edit the proper code. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910911
I went ahead and unbranded mine as well and got the pre-nodo. Now come on MS and push it out.
Ahhh, push it
Push it real good
can anyone help me unbrand my samsung focus.
get this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910911
then do this
Then go to HKLM\System\Platform\\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOp erator
it should say ATT-US. Delete the ATT-US & leave it blank
save - reboot & you're done. You should now get notified of the pre-update.

Waiting for AT&T for NODO? - here it is in spite of them

http://blog.walshie.me/2011/04/04/so-who-wants-windows-phone-updates-like-right-now/
I did this. My Focus was totally stock. No mods. This took less that 10 minutes total.
After it was complete, all of my stuff was still there. About as painless as it could get.
There was no chance to backup anything. Also this can't be reversed. But who cares? It worked great.
Make sure you download the 32 bit or 64 bit versions as appropriate to the PC the phone is connected to. If you read some of the comments, you will get the feeling that the few that complain probably ran the wrong version.
If you are not sure if you are 32 or 64 bit, go to Control Panel, then System. It will tell there.
The No mods portion is quite misleading. If it runs Chevron, chances are it is modding it. I would be stunned if this didn't void your warranty, absolutely stunned. The only way to update sans any mods would be to wait for the update to come. Otherwise, you might as well run the debrander and update that way...
Concerned
I used this to update to pre-NoDo (7004-7008). I have not done NoDo yet and I'll tell you what my concern is. I would like to know where this update is coming from (I am assuming the MS servers) and whether it is the same version currently being tested by AT&T. I am concerned that there may be AT&T or Samsung specific "fixes" in the AT&T version that are not included in the version being downloaded through this method. Wish someone could tell us.
Well I did it all
Went to nodo and my samsung is working fine if you need me to test some things for you just let me know and I will be happy, as far as warranty goes whenever I did chevron I didn't worry about it anyway, nor did I when I have had any previous devices.
My phone was not modded prior to the update. As far as I can tell it is still unmodded. I didn't see anything happen except the two updates. There is a command window open while this process is taking place.
JamesAllen said:
I used this to update to pre-NoDo (7004-7008). I have not done NoDo yet and I'll tell you what my concern is. I would like to know where this update is coming from (I am assuming the MS servers) and whether it is the same version currently being tested by AT&T. I am concerned that there may be AT&T or Samsung specific "fixes" in the AT&T version that are not included in the version being downloaded through this method. Wish someone could tell us.
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I had a similar thought, but after a few days of read about people getting NoDo, I said screw it. As far as I have read no company, Samsung included, has added anything to NoDo. I would be shocked if they did anything.
bennyj71 said:
I had a similar thought, but after a few days of read about people getting NoDo, I said screw it. As far as I have read no company, Samsung included, has added anything to NoDo. I would be shocked if they did anything.
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Samsung firmware updates come separate. This update method works because Microsoft released " Windows Phone Support Tool "; Chris acknowledges. When you update, your specific phone gets identified.
I have a non-mod AT&T Samsung Focus. Like everyone else who followed the directions it took about 10 minutes, and worked perfectly. I've tested the features and my apps and it is much snappier. I'm happy with it!
*** Oh, I also used the windows phone support tool before trying to update ***
It appears the chevronupdater file has been removed from the linked post... Does anybody still have a copy?
I can't find it either
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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The No mods portion is quite misleading. If it runs Chevron, chances are it is modding it. I would be stunned if this didn't void your warranty, absolutely stunned. The only way to update sans any mods would be to wait for the update to come. Otherwise, you might as well run the debrander and update that way...
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No one here should be misled. If you're worried about warranty, be advised NOT to install, run , deploy almost anything that is discussed here.
chevronupdater
Here's the chevronupdater for 64 bit windows. Also, i had trouble doing this as it would run and not update anything. Then i ran windows phone support tool and it updated my focus from 7004 to 7004.3 or something. If it's not working for you, you could try that
You guys might also want to go ahead and download .Net 4, since the updater apparently requires it.
I would link directly to it, but I haven't posted 8 times yet!
One general thing I noticed last night
My phone kept chiming .........bing, bing, bing, bing bing bing......... well you get the point. I turned it off and back on and it came back so at that time I just switched my phone to vibrate reason I have no idea besides that it has been running great.
Reported
buffalosolja42 said:
My phone kept chiming .........bing, bing, bing, bing bing bing......... well you get the point. I turned it off and back on and it came back so at that time I just switched my phone to vibrate reason I have no idea besides that it has been running great.
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Do you have a Focus? This behavior has been reported with the Focus a few times, in fact there is a thread somewhere about this. I had(?) this as well. The battery icon would flash like it was charging when it was not connected to a charger. When the usb cable was plugged in it behaved normally. It would not allow the screen to turn off. I worked with ATT Technical Support as well as Samsung. ATT informed me it was a known problem and they had seen many cases, MS knew of it and it was being fixed "in the next update". This was over a month ago. Mine stopped this behavior. I was normally able to stop it by plugging it into the PC and then, through a combination of turning off Zune, turning off the phone and unplugging while the screen was off, get it to stop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020668
JamesAllen said:
Do you have a Focus? This behavior has been reported with the Focus a few times, in fact there is a thread somewhere about this. I had(?) this as well. The battery icon would flash like it was charging when it was not connected to a charger. When the usb cable was plugged in it behaved normally. It would not allow the screen to turn off. I worked with ATT Technical Support as well as Samsung. ATT informed me it was a known problem and they had seen many cases, MS knew of it and it was being fixed "in the next update". This was over a month ago. Mine stopped this behavior. I was normally able to stop it by plugging it into the PC and then, through a combination of turning off Zune, turning off the phone and unplugging while the screen was off, get it to stop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020668
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Thanks J I see you everywhere on Focus post lol, yes I have a Focus I need to update my sig I know. It was the first time I experienced that I had my Focus since launch and it has been unlocked since the chevron came out, until I tried the unbranding update ;(. But it is up and running since running chevronupdate, I really haven't noticed anything as of yet, because my device was running fine prior to update, but the XDA disease really keeps my wanting more Thanks for the update big guy.
Your Welcome
buffalosolja42 said:
Thanks J I see you everywhere on Focus post lol, yes I have a Focus I need to update my sig I know. It was the first time I experienced that I had my Focus since launch and it has been unlocked since the chevron came out, until I tried the unbranding update ;(. But it is up and running since running chevronupdate, I really haven't noticed anything as of yet, because my device was running fine prior to update, but the XDA disease really keeps my wanting more Thanks for the update big guy.
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I know, I need to get a life. I got tired of tweaking and upgrading when I was in my "crazy" phase with WM 6.5. Thought I "had to" constantly visit here and update. Didn't realize until I had WP7 that I really didn't need to do that. But, I did not want to wait for that foot dragging AT&T to get me this simple update but also had no interest in sideloading apps. This was a perfect solution.
Wonder why the updater was pulled?????
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I know, I need to get a life. I got tired of tweaking and upgrading when I was in my "crazy" phase with WM 6.5. Thought I "had to" constantly visit here and update. Didn't realize until I had WP7 that I really didn't need to do that. But, I did not want to wait for that foot dragging AT&T to get me this simple update but also had no interest in sideloading apps. This was a perfect solution.
Wonder why the updater was pulled?????
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I am guessing ATT, asked MS to do it because it looks like it makes them seem to not care about customers (worked a while for Cingular/ATT) and alot of things I know can be implemented into devices and they just don't. They nickel and dime us to death I think MS should I hate to say it (do like Apple) and just push the updates themselves to the devices and only radio updates should be pushed by providers (the only thing they need to do anyways). If anyone needs it I have it in my dropbox (the chevron upate 32 and 64)
Agreed
buffalosolja42 said:
I am guessing ATT, asked MS to do it because it looks like it makes them seem to not care about customers (worked a while for Cingular/ATT) and alot of things I know can be implemented into devices and they just don't. They nickel and dime us to death I think MS should I hate to say it (do like Apple) and just push the updates themselves to the devices and only radio updates should be pushed by providers (the only thing they need to do anyways). If anyone needs it I have it in my dropbox (the chevron upate 32 and 64)
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The worst thing MS did was allow the carriers to play such a significant role in the update process, especially their "Premier Partner", AT&T. I worked for them for 9 years during a time when customer satisfaction was at the core of the company. Today's AT&T is not that company, not even a shadow. MS will get the brunt of the criticism for this early update fiasco, even though AT&T deserves the blame. MS will receive it because consumers view this as an MS update. In addition, MS agreed to this "model" with the carriers so, in a way, they deserve the criticism.
AT&T Samsung Focus Success!!!!
Detail and I don't know how many had this issue. DO NOT turn off your phone before the update as the Windows Phone Support Tool instructions tell you. I know, I know, but I did that for quite some time until I decided NOT to turn off the phone.
Did have to run it twice, but I've already copy and pasted to my heart's content
Great job guys.....Thanks a million!!!!!!
just Unbrand
I just got a new Samsung Focus and all I did was dev unlock my device because I am a dev, but after that all I did was plug in my phone, unbrand it, and I got the 7008 update, followed by the another check and I got the Nodo update. No other mod necessary. Just an unlock and an unbrand and I got both updates.

Any ROMs Available? Even OEM?

Are there any leads to a Samsung Focus flashable ROM yet? Even an OEM ROM? I'd really like to take my Focus back to 7004 and start over if possible.
Unfortunately, I tried to recover using Windows Phone Support Tool and it destroyed my ability to Unlock again. I was trying to revert back to my 7004 backup, but was not sure how to do it.
Now I'm concerned about not being able to get OEM or Chevron updates. That would bite!
I have been looking for a while, no luck
wish I had the knowledge to make a rom to backup 7004 before upgrading
hopefully some nice person will make a rom (preferably Rogers as less bloatware)
Don't expect a ROM for Focus anytime soon. There's simply no one working on it. I have a bricked device that needs a new ROM flash. Been waiting for months now!
UzEE said:
Don't expect a ROM for Focus anytime soon. There's simply no one working on it. I have a bricked device that needs a new ROM flash. Been waiting for months now!
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I'm hoping there is someone quietly working on it without posting their progress so they are not bombarded with questions and questions about when it will be released.
Please don't take offense if you've already done this, but have you already tried the Windows Phone Support Tool to try to get it going again? From what I saw when I ran it, the tool has the ability to download updates, and MAYBE ROM parts? It's just a thought.
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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How much do you want for it? I'm pretty dumb...
ASPTHEONE said:
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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Would that not make you the dumb one for buying a phone that didn't have a stock rom in the first place? As is stands I think the stock rom is more than smooth enough. Yes there are things lacking and not as many tweakable options as android, but it is still very usable. Just be patient, it will come eventually.
Nobody seems to realize the disasters of Android when they first came out. We are already far ahead with WP7 on a timescale point of view.
Nobody is dumb here, we all just have different expectations from our devices.
Also, along the lines of time frames, WP7 is also ahead of the iPhone when it was released. It too had it's headaches, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we get cut/paste faster? And MultiTasking will be here WAY faster than iPhone got it.
Just be patient, and give it a little time to mature. It's coming along quite nicely, especially lately. And the ATT feet dragging on the update? I'd much rather they took a little extra time than see a bunch of people in these threads with bricked phones, or upgrades that didn't work as planned. That can kill an OS. I think the first Feb update showed them they need to be cautious, and that's exactly what they are doing. No, I don't like to wait, I'm as impatient as the next guy, sometimes more, but it will be worth it in the long run.
UPDATE!​
I was concerned that forcing the NoDo update and then using the Windows Recovery Tool had made my phone unable to receive the March NoDo update from ATT.
Well, I'm happy to say that I just plugged my phone in this morning, and I'm RIGHT NOW updating to the "Samsung update for Windows Phone".
WOOHOO!!!! I thought I was hosed...
Now, the question will be, Can I Unlock It? I doubt it, but at least I'm getting the actual Update from ATT. I'm hoping there is a firmware update included also. I'll let you know.
SuperSport said:
I'm hoping there is someone quietly working on it without posting their progress so they are not bombarded with questions and questions about when it will be released.
Please don't take offense if you've already done this, but have you already tried the Windows Phone Support Tool to try to get it going again? From what I saw when I ran it, the tool has the ability to download updates, and MAYBE ROM parts? It's just a thought.
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I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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When you tried the Support tool, did it even see the phone? Will your phone even go into Restore Mode (Power/Camera)?
Just throwing ideas out, hoping to stumble across something that makes it light up again...
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I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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I dont understand why you are bashing this phone so badly. I moved from a fuze with win 6.5 plus. I loved the freedom i had with that phone. but, as with any rom and initial release of an op system. there will be bugs. there will be updates. This all takes time. I think this phone is awesome for now. Its very easy to use and is powerful and very fast. The wifi is much faster than what im used to. Just be patient there will be some great improvements to come for this.
The rom posted in the development forum works and is for AT&T Samsung Focus. Read my reply
ASPTHEONE said:
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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Why the hell would I do that?? The phone is near perfect as is.
Try this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045968
See if it works for you.
Focus Rom
This maybe a true Focus Rom but the person who is saying it works has not or will not say how he used this rom. The upload tool included with the Rom does not work.
If it really does work why not just tell us what you used to flash the phone?
The other ROM 7004 included in the thread is a AT&T Demo ROM so don't use it.
rrmcco said:
This maybe a true Focus Rom but the person who is saying it works has not or will not say how he used this rom. The upload tool included with the Rom does not work.
If it really does work why not just tell us what you used to flash the phone?
The other ROM 7004 included in the thread is a AT&T Demo ROM so don't use it.
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I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
does anyone know how to use this? i need an instruction
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I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
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I have a Samsung Focus and I did try the ROM's mentioned in the Chinese site both are the AT&T ROMS.
The UCKC3 ROM I can not use with the tool to update.
EnderPsp said:
I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
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I am not 100% sure but i believe he stated the tool worked for him. But I had already posted this comment.
I'm not here to say bad things, I just had not sean a coment on how he was able to use the ROM, and was hoping somebody would say how they did it. And yes he did.

[Q] Focus S retail ROM

Hi,
Does anyone know if there's a Retail ROM yet for the new Focus S? I get mine on Tuesday and would like to debrand it. Or, will another Retail ROM say from the Omnia 7 work?
Many thanks
zarn1w00p said:
Hi,
Does anyone know if there's a Retail ROM yet for the new Focus S? I get mine on Tuesday and would like to debrand it. Or, will another Retail ROM say from the Omnia 7 work?
Many thanks
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There is no retail ROM for the Focus S yet. When it will be, you will find it at Samsfirmware as well as in the forums here.
Samsung Omnia 7 (i8700) is similar to Samsung Focus (i917) in the same way Samsung Omnia W (i8350) is similar to Samsung Focus S (i937). So you would be looking for Omnia W, not Omnia 7.
Beware, do NOT force/flash Omnia 7 _OR_ Omnia W files onto your Focus S, as you might brick your device. Instead, wait for someone with experience and ask for assistance. A lot of bricks happened because Focus owners flashed Omnia 7 firmware.
Many thanks
Still no hint of a retail or AT&T debranded ROM? As I'm in the UK I am not getting any O/S updates (other than the updates from here) and this concerns me. So I would love to remove AT&T from this ROM or install a Retail version.
Regards
no worries. There have been no updates yet for the focus s...
but it looks like 7739.25 (ie, 7740?) is coming
http://www.wpcentral.com/att-updating-focus-s-and-flash-os-773925
stress about updates when it lands. The phone is only an att phone so there will be no unbranded version of it.
new firmware and radio too. Hopefully it fixes the screen lag.
Many thanks for the reply. Hmmm, I put the 8107 update from this forum on it and it updated perfectly. Only issue now is I still have the old firmware/bootloader/radio versions. I wonder if I will get those updates or, because I'm higher than 7739, will the update skip me?
Regards
zarn1w00p said:
Many thanks for the reply. Hmmm, I put the 8107 update from this forum on it and it updated perfectly. Only issue now is I still have the old firmware/bootloader/radio versions. I wonder if I will get those updates or, because I'm higher than 7739, will the update skip me?
Regards
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That's the cool thing about XDA. If you don't get the firmware/bootloader/radio update sent to your phone using Zune, just wait till the CAB files show up here (and they will). Then send them using Cab Sender.
Need help, may pay some money as well
SuperSport said:
That's the cool thing about XDA. If you don't get the firmware/bootloader/radio update sent to your phone using Zune, just wait till the CAB files show up here (and they will). Then send them using Cab Sender.
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I have a Samsung focus s in demo mode. I need to flash it with custom ROM to use it like normal. let me know if you can help me doing it. I am ready to pay/donate some money.
n_k_goyal said:
I have a Samsung focus s in demo mode. I need to flash it with custom ROM to use it like normal. let me know if you can help me doing it. I am ready to pay/donate some money.
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I did some searching, but I cannot find a ROM for this phone. There is a way to get it working without the DEMO mode if you want to try it. Here is a link with more info. No need for donations, and I'm sorry there is not more, it looks like that phone has been left behind as far as development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32941671&postcount=21

Where is the 8107 update from orange UK?

Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
Maybe it's like on 3 here in Sweden, 3 is going to need to accept the update. A friend of mine got the update notify but can't install it untill 3 says ok.
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Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
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You aren't the only one who's waiting for this update.
I'm also using Omnia 7 from Orange UK and no upgrade in Zune for that moment.
I think i'll try to flash it with DFT Rainbow ROM (based on 8107)
Kozio said:
You aren't the only one who's waiting for this update.
I'm also using Omnia 7 from Orange UK and no upgrade in Zune for that moment.
I think i'll try to flash it with DFT Rainbow ROM (based on 8107)
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May I suggest this custom instead?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22576610#post22576610
Had a few problems with Rainbow *not just the relocking* but I've been using this for 3 days now and its a lot less hassle with an Omnia 7
Same here. Orange UK - Still on 7740.
Orange have been poor with updates. Shame really... I couldn't look at other networks though as Orange have by far the best deals available and do stock a decent range of WP7 handsets.
I've been having major issues with the 3G not working randomly after 8107, so you are quite lucky.
I know this is an oldish thread but has anyone on orange/tmob/everything everywhere or whatever they are calling themselves today have the 8107 update?
The disappearing keyboard is such a pain and I need a fix.
It's Mozart I'm wondering about really because reading up it seems other phones may already have had this update.
I called Orange business support and theire tech guys "don't know about any 8107 update". I thought this was just the call centre woman fobbing me off so sent an email to account managers and they said the same thing even though I sent them offical link from MS about the update.
Wasn't being pushed to my Omnia 7 on T-Mobile UK as of last week.
Is your phone Interop unlocked? If so you could just tweak a registry entry so you receive the update.
If not, you can manually update using the cab sender method. Doesn't require a developer/unlocked phone. I did it myself and its pretty straightforward.
I followed this guide. Easy to do and it shouldn't stop you getting future OS updates (i.e. Tango) and manufacturer firmware updates through Zune. That is, if Orange ever get round to letting them be pushed out.
Thanks sab, I followed the guide and have updated my phone.
I've not seen any problems so going to update my colleagues phone too!
I'm just annoyed with Orange for not pushing updates from MS. I think MS should take control of updates like they do with their operating systems and take the carrier out of it. I appreciate there will be regional issues and carrier specific configurations but it's just silly having updates and not being able to apply them.
cyrax.net said:
Thanks sab, I followed the guide and have updated my phone.
I've not seen any problems so going to update my colleagues phone too!
I'm just annoyed with Orange for not pushing updates from MS. I think MS should take control of updates like they do with their operating systems and take the carrier out of it. I appreciate there will be regional issues and carrier specific configurations but it's just silly having updates and not being able to apply them.
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Can you confirm this works OK for Orange UK? I don't want to screw up a phone when I still have a few months of the contract left. Also, did you only need 5 language pack on the Mozart? Mine only lists 5 under Display Lancuages, but loads under Region Format.
englishgit said:
Can you confirm this works OK for Orange UK? I don't want to screw up a phone when I still have a few months of the contract left. Also, did you only need 5 language pack on the Mozart? Mine only lists 5 under Display Lancuages, but loads under Region Format.
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I've been using it fine since I posted that updated. As has my colleague. So great to fix that annoying 'hidden keyboard' problem.
If I remember correctly, I used the 5 languages pack only. The same as what was listed in the languages section of the phone.
There are no guarantees and you may screw up your phone. That's the risk you'll have to take.
cyrax.net said:
I've been using it fine since I posted that updated. As has my colleague. So great to fix that annoying 'hidden keyboard' problem.
If I remember correctly, I used the 5 languages pack only. The same as what was listed in the languages section of the phone.
There are no guarantees and you may screw up your phone. That's the risk you'll have to take.
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Forgive my asking another stupid question, but my phone only lists "English". Am I correct in assuming this is English-UK?
I'm also wondering if I should to this if it might break the auto-update and the Tango update might be available in the future. Any thoughts?
Finally, my phone's on 7740, not 7720. Anyone know if that would make a difference?
Yes "English" is English UK. Mine is the same.
I can't comment on the Tango update but I doubt it will affect it. This cab update your doing is an official release as far as I know but it's just that you are forcing the update instead of waiting for Orange to do it.
I was on 7740. This should be the latest build(last time I checked) from Orange on my phone anyways - HTC Mozart.
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