Samsung got smart, Gave free Galaxy SII phones to get assistance from the community.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/samsung-cyanogen/
microsoft is on board also. Microsoft offer hackers free phones, not lawsuit
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-01/25/microsoft-windows-7-hackers
HTC has said no more locked bootloaders.
Moto has got to see it's not going to help business to continue down their slippery path. They need to say no to the carriers.Samsung sees that even the "small" modders community can impact sales and the company image, maybe not that drastically, but over the long term, it may be more damaging than moto is anticipating.
yup moto strategy sucks, i bought the atrix and i am never gonna buy any moto phone after that.
Same here, was having very big hopes for this awesome hardware to have some awesome roms and big area of customization, but I'm beginning to feel disappointed...
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Already a thread about this a couple of threads down from this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114017
Please at least look through the first page of threads before blindly posting something which has already been posted.
mrphil101 said:
Samsung got smart, Gave free Galaxy SII phones to get assistance from the community.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/samsung-cyanogen/
microsoft is on board also. Microsoft offer hackers free phones, not lawsuit
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-01/25/microsoft-windows-7-hackers
HTC has said no more locked bootloaders.
Moto has got to see it's not going to help business to continue down their slippery path. They need to say no to the carriers.Samsung sees that even the "small" modders community can impact sales and the company image, maybe not that drastically, but over the long term, it may be more damaging than moto is anticipating.
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And the Bell Atrix still has yet to offer an update. Upload speeds still capped FTL... *sigh*
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it seems that google buys moto... does this mean android will be moto only now? http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Press-Releases/Google-to-Acquire-Motorola-Mobility-3797.aspx
now we will get good quality stable android phone...!
It got me glad and worried at the same time
Im really glad coz motorola mobility has a mountain of patents that Google could use against Patent trolls like Apple and others.
In fact the huge amount of patents that Motorola owns assures that
Appple et all are cross licensing at least some of the said patents.
I almost wish that Google bought up Nokia also but MS beat them
with their trojan horse.
But it also got me worried that since Google now has its own handset company,
its going to run it as a business with the intention to recover its expenses and make a profit, which is natural but it also means it will be competing with its own licensees like HTC, Samsung, LG etc.
What does this mean in the future for its Android licensees who are now its
rivals in the Android Market?
It almost seems unprofessional for Google to be both License Holder and now competitor yet i cant blame Google for buying up Motorola after the way
Apple is throwing its weight around with Samsung, HTC etc
Anyway Nokia does own Symbian and competed with the same licensees like Sony Ericksonn, Samsung etc in the past.
So I guess Google can do its best to reassure its Android licensees that
its still business as usual.
Google's primary objective seemed to be keeping the patents out of the hands of Microsoft/Apple/trolls. They certainly didn't need more to worry about.
As for their phones... I think (and hope!) that Google plans on treating them the same way they treat Chrome: Use Motorola to make the other players step up their game. Chrome was the first to market with a large variety of security technology, and since then both IE and Safari have started adopting similar technology... the Android ecosystem is currently a security nightmare!
Lets hope, though, that this is nothing like Nokia & Symbian... Nokia's purchase of Symbian was a total failure, everyone around it immediately began abandoning it, and then even NOKIA did! Nokia has also abandoned Meego, only throwing out the N9 to the non-major markets, with no intention of selling it in the larger markets. Symbian is more likely an example of Android crushing them, and Meego of Microsoft paying them a butt load of money (plus management FROM Microsoft!), so hopefully both examples will look totally different.
Yep, this is all about patents.
It won't greatly affect its relationship with giving out Android to other manufacturers. However, we'll hopefully see moto phones be all Nexus like and on every carrier with various styles and configurations.
I've owned 5 or so Motorola phones over the past decade and you couldn't pay me enough to ever use another.
If for some reason Motorola did become the only Android phone or even the flagship, I'd swap to WM7 or iOS.
I read a few articles about this and a few of them worrying about if android wouldn't be open platform anymore. But google's bread and butter is ad market for search. And search market is shifting to mobile from desktop computer. More android device more money for them. Simply they CAN NOT give up android as an open platform. Thats my 2 cents.
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Future AOSP builds include motoblur... boo
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This was just sent to me.
"Dear MOTODEV member,
Today, Google and Motorola Mobility have announced their intention to enter an agreement under which Google will acquire Motorola Mobility. This is a positive step in Motorola Mobility's evolution and exciting news for the Android ecosystem.
As you know, Motorola Mobility has played a leading role in the advancement of the Android platform globally. With Google, we plan to continue to build upon our 80-year history of technology innovation and take Motorola Mobility's cutting-edge products and solutions to the next level.
We do not expect this announced transaction to have any immediate impact on MOTODEV programs or activities. As the transaction moves forward we will keep you informed as details become available.
As always, technology innovation remains the lifeblood of Motorola Mobility and the success of our developer community remains top priority for MOTODEV.
Sincerely, The MOTODEV team"
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in other words, really nothing is different. Motorola still makes Motorola phones and Google still makes android and the two will never merge, aosp will never be blur, and Motorola will not be the only android phone manufacturer. all this will ever mean is that Google might sometimes get updates to moto a little quicker, and get access to their hardware patents, etc... nothing really that will affect the consumers.
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I just have a question. Why didn't Google design their own hardware now that they own Motorola mobility. Wouldn't the device be even more pure as Google has complete control of everything. Also wouldn't profit margins be slightly higher? Just a thought.
Also I'm not sure if this belongs here or in general.
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Facts about Google’s acquisition of Motorola
Refer http://www.google.com/press/motorola/competition/
What we aren’t doing
1. Closing the Android ecosystem: Android will continue to be an open platform, available to all device manufacturers and software developers.
2. Favoring Motorola Mobility over other hardware manufacturers: Google will continue to work with all its hardware partners. They support this acquisition.
I believe it will take a couple of more android versions for Motorola mobility to start making Nexus devices.
For now they have Samsung, Asus and LG hardware manufacturers who have banked quite well on the Nexus brand.
They might want to give a chance to other manufacturers before bringing their queen out.
Thanks for clearing that out
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News reports today state that Lenovo is buying Motorola Mobility from Google for about $3B. Any thoughts on this?
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Sad
Another great American firm gets broken apart and sold to a foreign company.
Very concerned about what the future holds for the firm, and all the recently-hired guys in the US...
My initial reaction is not positive. I've been a fan of moto for a long time, and have owned many moto devices.
They're selling it at a huge loss, but they are retaining the patents, and licensing them to Lenovo, so its WORTH a whole lot less too.
I have been admiring the Moto X, but my HD Maxx is good enough that I can't justify replacing it. So I've been somewhat planning on picking up whatever its successor would be. We'll see now.
Lenovo to Acquire Motorola Mobility from Google
I think, as a Motorola phone owner, that our upgrade propspects not being a part of Google anymore have been vastly reduced, sadly. :crying: Here´s the pertinent part of the announcement press release:
Lenovo to Acquire Motorola Mobility from Google
Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, and Mountain View, California – January 29, 2014: Lenovo (HKSE: 992) (ADR: LNVGY) and Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) today have entered into a definitive agreement under which Lenovo plans to acquire the Motorola Mobility smartphone business. With a strong PC business and a fast-growing smartphone business, this agreement will significantly strengthen Lenovo’s position in the smartphone market. In addition, Lenovo will gain a strong market presence in North America and Latin America, as well as a foothold in Western Europe, to complement its strong, fast-growing smartphone business in emerging markets around the world.
The purchase price is approximately US$2.91 billion (subject to certain adjustments), including US$1.41 billion paid at close, comprised of US$660 million in cash and US$750 million in Lenovo ordinary shares (subject to a share cap/floor). The remaining US$1.5 billion will be paid in the form of a three-year promissory note.
Lenovo, which in 2005 acquired IBM’s PC business and its legendary PC brand, will now acquire world-renowned Motorola Mobility, including the MOTOROLA brand and Motorola Mobility's portfolio of innovative smartphones like the Moto X and Moto G and the DROID™ Ultra series. In addition to current products, Lenovo will take ownership of the future Motorola Mobility product roadmap.
Google will maintain ownership of the vast majority of the Motorola Mobility patent portfolio, including current patent applications and invention disclosures. As part of its ongoing relationship with Google, Lenovo will receive a license to this rich portfolio of patents and other intellectual property. Additionally Lenovo will receive over 2,000 patent assets, as well as the Motorola Mobility brand and trademark portfolio.
Motorola Mobility enjoys outstanding brand awareness around the world, and is currently the #3 Android smartphone manufacturer in the U.S. and #3 manufacturer overall in Latin America.
“The acquisition of such an iconic brand, innovative product portfolio and incredibly talented global team will immediately make Lenovo a strong global competitor in smartphones. We will immediately have the opportunity to become a strong global player in the fast-growing mobile space,” said Yang Yuanqing, chairman and CEO of Lenovo. “We are confident that we can bring together the best of both companies to deliver products customers will love and a strong, growing business. Lenovo has a proven track record of successfully embracing and strengthening great brands – as we did with IBM’s Think brand – and smoothly and efficiently integrating companies around-the-world. I am confident we will be successful with this process, and that our companies will not only maintain our current momentum in the market, but also build a strong foundation for the future.”
“Lenovo has the expertise and track record to scale Motorola Mobility into a major player within the Android ecosystem. This move will enable Google to devote our energy to driving innovation across the Android ecosystem, for the benefit of smartphone users everywhere,” said Larry Page, CEO, Google.
“As part of Lenovo, Motorola Mobility will have a rapid path to achieving our goal of reaching the next 100 million people with the mobile Internet. With the recent launches of Moto X and Moto G, we have tremendous momentum right now and Lenovo’s hardware expertise and global reach will only help to accelerate this,” said Dennis Woodside, CEO, Motorola Mobility.
The transaction is subject to the satisfaction of regulatory requirements, customary closing conditions and any other needed approvals.
Moto fan here. Audio quality. I try out an Htc or Samy and the sound is lacking.
Now they will all be alike.
I guess it'll be Nexus for me, from here on out.
I welcome this. Look at google motorola marriage, just 2 disabled childs. Moto X and Moto G. Nothing more. With the global reach of lenovo, motorola can find place in its old markets and create a demand for new various models if they do it right.
Semseddin said:
I welcome this. Look at google motorola marriage, just 2 disabled childs. Moto X and Moto G. Nothing more. With the global reach of lenovo, motorola can find place in its old markets and create a demand for new various models if they do it right.
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I am thinking it is better to have less devices on market, and more software upgrades for them, than many various models with lack of support.
PS: I'm sorry for my English.
uze said:
I am thinking it is better to have less devices on market, and more software upgrades for them, than many various models with lack of support.
PS: I'm sorry for my English.
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It was Google's excuse for not being able to release many devices. Samsung releases tons of devices for every segment and they keep them updated, maybe not lightning fast updates but fast enough for everyone. I personally waited for a quadcore FHD screen beast from motorola, all they could offer was Moto X. Funny part was that they tried to sell it within the same price range with quads, full hd phones.
My greatest concern about this sale is that with the Moto X and Moto G coming out and source being released for it, we'd (RAZR HD) eventually see a 3.4 kernel and native 4.4 support based on this source and maybe I'm being naive but that seems further and further away now with this news.
Motorola Canada page says my phone is getting KK officially but I haven't seen anything so far nor found any source.
Semseddin said:
It was Google's excuse for not being able to release many devices. Samsung releases tons of devices for every segment and they keep them updated, maybe not lightning fast updates but fast enough for everyone. I personally waited for a quadcore FHD screen beast from motorola, all they could offer was Moto X. Funny part was that they tried to sell it within the same price range with quads, full hd phones.
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You clearly have never used a Moto X. Its smoother than some quad core phones out there. In fact, I'm going to go as far as saying that Motorola proved specs aren't everything in an Android phone, as long as you can optimize the software right. I'm not going to argue about screen size because for me I don't notice a difference in resolution unless its a tablet or something, but the screen on the X (and my Maxx HD, for that matter) is better quality than my girl's S4. So while you let hype build up inside you and let you down hard when they released the X, people who knew to take leaks with a grain of salt were ecstatic the phone performed the way it did and had the ability to customize colors and software options as well.
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cmajpwc said:
You clearly have never used a Moto X. Its smoother than some quad core phones out there. In fact, I'm going to go as far as saying that Motorola proved specs aren't everything in an Android phone, as long as you can optimize the software right. I'm not going to argue about screen size because for me I don't notice a difference in resolution unless its a tablet or something, but the screen on the X (and my Maxx HD, for that matter) is better quality than my girl's S4. So while you let hype build up inside you and let you down hard when they released the X, people who knew to take leaks with a grain of salt were ecstatic the phone performed the way it did and had the ability to customize colors and software options as well.
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Don't need an argument over this. Just chill down, it's just a phone. You don't need to defend just because you got one. Everybody have their own opinion. So, you can be happy with your Moto X. I never thought of buying one because it was overpriced compared to other brand flagships being a dualcore/hd device. Moto X is a great phone it does what it does but it's just not in the same league with other Quad / FHD solutions with its mediocre dual/hd setup. No matter how good it was optimised by google, it never has to carry the weight of Full HD pixels with its weaker dualcore cpu. I got my first dualcore from motorola back in 2011 Atrix 4G(a true milestone device), then XT910 which was also dualcore. So i just kept waiting for a quadcore from new motorola-google. And yet they didn't release a phone which is better or faster than competing companies. It's 2014 and i hope Lenovo will bring motorola to a new competing athmosphere to catch up with the tech race.
and if we are to consume as consumers,i want to consume the best and Moto X wasn't the best :good:
i hope some we see Motorola same before
i ♥ motorola forever
Hello Moto
cmajpwc said:
You clearly have never used a Moto X. Its smoother than some quad core phones out there. In fact, I'm going to go as far as saying that Motorola proved specs aren't everything in an Android phone, as long as you can optimize the software right. I'm not going to argue about screen size because for me I don't notice a difference in resolution unless its a tablet or something, but the screen on the X (and my Maxx HD, for that matter) is better quality than my girl's S4. So while you let hype build up inside you and let you down hard when they released the X, people who knew to take leaks with a grain of salt were ecstatic the phone performed the way it did and had the ability to customize colors and software options as well.
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Agree. X phones are a great sucess! But why the iphonish no SD card(btw)?
HTC & SAMMY great computers, poor phones.
This might be unreasonable due to fear, but do you think this will impede RAZR HD/M/Maxx owners' incoming 4.4 update?
No I think we will still see our update. The changes imposed by lenovo will take a while yet to be seen.
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Semseddin said:
I welcome this. Look at google motorola marriage, just 2 disabled childs. Moto X and Moto G. Nothing more. With the global reach of lenovo, motorola can find place in its old markets and create a demand for new various models if they do it right.
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Please list how they are disabled?
No sd card is really debatable with the advent of usb-otg.
Lenovo bought Motorola is a good sign for great marketing than the tricky Google. We should see sdcard,quadcore (no more dualcore krait),FullHD screen,great camera software in a Motorola phone soon. My friend has just bought a Lenovo P780. It's a great device with great build quality,vivid screen and a monster battery (4000 mah).
Punit Soni
Works at Motorola Mobility (Google) (SW VP)
- 30/1/2014
"Loads of changes...
My team is committed to delighting Moto users and working hard on the next slew of updates/features that need to roll out."
His google+ profile
as long as they dump a kernel for 4.4.2 on the xt926 dev, well see better custom ROMs.
we just need to wait for qualcomm to update the drivers/binaries/blobs of the MSM8960; its not just the RAZR's but the SGS3, Xperia T/V too that use this chipset, and qualcomm is slow to update, competition is good!
huatz84 said:
Lenovo bought Motorola is a good sign for great marketing than the tricky Google. We should see sdcard,quadcore (no more dualcore krait),FullHD screen,great camera software in a Motorola phone soon. My friend has just bought a Lenovo P780. It's a great device with great build quality,vivid screen and a monster battery (4000 mah).
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Finally someone with the positive view!! I'm supporting your statement 100%!!! Cheers!!!
Lenovo will make Motorola what it should have been. Obviously the Chinese appreciate Motorola name and tradition more than the Americans..
Go Moto!!!