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Being a previous samsung owner (behold 2) I don't think that the first galaxy s line will get it. Why??? Cause samsung is already in the process of making a second galaxy s line. Just like in the armed forces how they send out the army first(vibrant, epic, captivate) then the navy, then air forces. Well that's what samsung is doing. If you think I'm just spitting out bull check out the new galaxy s phone sprint is about to get. It is keyboard less and is coming out months after the epic 4g. Why would they need 2 galaxy s phones when they already have 1 with a keyboard and an evo???
I truly think we are gonna get froyo in october but nothing after that. I'm not mad though I'm just gonna get a g2 but this is crazy how phone companies operate these days all due to android fragmentation.
Link to new galaxy s for sprint
http://phandroid.com/2010/09/30/samsung-transform-kyocera-zio-headed-to-sprint/
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Meh, the dev scene should be fully up and running by that point. Personally at that point I couldn't care less if Samsung doesn't update.
They've already proven that they don't give a **** about their appearance in the world (really, you ship a broken phone to four carriers in the US and to ~30 other countries around the world and expect anyone to take you seriously), so let them continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
Just my $.02
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Meh, the dev scene should be fully up and running by that point. Personally at that point I couldn't care less if Samsung doesn't update.
They've already proven that they don't give a **** about their appearance in the world (really, you ship a broken phone to four carriers in the US and to ~30 other countries around the world and expect anyone to take you seriously), so let them continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
Just my $.02
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yeah, I've pretty much bought my last Samsung product. With ViewSonic entering the TV market and LG having as good a picture quality as Samsung already I don't need them for that, and as for phones/tablets? Well fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.
Im calling tmobile and emailing executive support to get a refund or a replacement with a g2
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Im calling tmobile and emailing executive support to get a refund or a replacement with a g2
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Good for you. And again, like everyone else, thank you so much for sharing your personal shopping preferences with us. Without well thought out, logical, factual, and rational statements such as yours the world would be a much worse place to live in. I am sure I speak for everyone here in thanking you for letting us know where you stand and that your presence will truly be missed in the Vibrant community.
We hope you will enjoy your new bug-free,super awesome, no problems at all G2 that is sure to have Honeycomb as soon as it is available as well.
Boohoo. Stop flooding this forum with stupid topics when there is already plenty others.
If you care so much about getting the newest OS on your phone, go get a N1 or N2 I am sure you will get the newest OS as soon as it came out.
Ibtl
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And a HUGE boo hoo back at the 4 crybabies above this post.
Samsung is building a reputation of not supporting their products after the sale.
This is something the community needs to be kept aware of so other people don't make the mistake of buying their hardware with its good looking specs.
I'm fed up with companies releasing product (or more like the product escaping) before it is finished as well.
And as a final comment to the 4 whiners above, if you don't like this thread no one forced you to read it. Do something productive and contribute to the community, even if it is just a warning to future buyers not to buy from a given company instead of trying to tear down what someone else is doing.
I'm starting to think it was a mistake even registering an account on this forum, Lol.
There are way too many fanbois.
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Boohoo. Stop flooding this forum with stupid topics when there is already plenty others.
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Nothing wrong with wanting Gingerbread, and expecting it, if the hardware supports it.
Samsung should manage its product support better. Way better.
Maybe Motorola should learn a thing or two from its competitors. I am this close to losing faith in this phone.
http://pulsene.ws/15Zld
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So they release the source code to kernels for phones that are over a year old?
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So they release the source code to kernels for phones that are over a year old?
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The Incredible S is not.
LancerV said:
So they release the source code to kernels for phones that are over a year old?
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ha,ha good one
The Incredible S is a new model.
HTC's always been on the up-and-up regarding GPL and posting source code. It doesn't surprise me that Moto has taken a completely opposite stance regarding openness.
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HTC's always been on the up-and-up regarding GPL and posting source code. It doesn't surprise me that Moto has taken a completely opposite stance regarding openness.
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I think Motorola takes that stance to make themselves more appealing to the carriers.
If you really think about it, the more "open" carriers like T-Mo and Sprint don't really have any Moto devices.
EDIT: minus the Cliq and Charm, but those are low end.
Not to argue but, Samsung's Galaxy series was on all carriers and could be heavily modded. Not to mention that Samsung included unlock codes in the phone itself for one of their models.
HTC Inspire, Nexus One, Desire/HD/Z, etc were on major carriers.
My guess is that Moto doesn't have the manpower/balls to deal with warranty support for people who brick their phone by rooting. Or they just don't care.
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My guess is that Moto doesn't have the manpower/balls to deal with warranty support for people who brick their phone by rooting. Or they just don't care.
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this should be a non issue. You root the phone, or otherwise modify beyond manufacturer intentions, you void the warranty. case closed.
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this should be a non issue. You root the phone, or otherwise modify beyond manufacturer intentions, you void the warranty. case closed.
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But people who don't fully understand rooting or the consequences of rooting would contact the manufacturer for a warranty repair/replacements.
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But people who don't fully understand rooting or the consequences of rooting would contact the manufacturer for a warranty repair/replacements.
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and the answer would be the same. That is how it works. If you were dumb enough to try something without fully understanding the consequences if it went wrong, too bad. you should always educate yourself on a topic before delving into it blindly.
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Not to argue but, Samsung's Galaxy series was on all carriers and could be heavily modded. Not to mention that Samsung included unlock codes in the phone itself for one of their models.
HTC Inspire, Nexus One, Desire/HD/Z, etc were on major carriers.
My guess is that Moto doesn't have the manpower/balls to deal with warranty support for people who brick their phone by rooting. Or they just don't care.
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You make a good point but the Galaxy series has only one variant on Verizon and AT&T, whereas, it is making multiple appearances elsewhere.
**This is only referring to Android devices (phones)
Look at Motorola's lineup on Verizon - Droid, D2, DX, Droid Pro, Citrus.....then look at AT&T - Backflip, Flipside, Bravo, Flipout, Atrix.
Now look at Samsung - Verizon: Fascinate and Continuum / AT&T: Captivate
That's 10 - 3 (not including tablets)
Then you can throw in HTC - Verizon: Incredible and Thunderbolt (even though HTC tried to lock down the TB) and AT&T: Inspire and Aria
That's still 10 - 7 in Motorola's favor. (You can't include the N1 because AT&T refused to carry it in their lineup, even so, Motorola still gets the nod)
I definitely do get your point of view. And you bring up a great point that carriers that want to milk you out of your money do like Motorola devices. I wonder though if this is to please the carrier or save there warranty/repair costs. If they do do it to cut costs/risks it directly benefits the carriers. So it works in their advantage both ways.
But, like what happened with Netflix's unwillingness to come to Android, Motorola's steps might pay off. And a lot of people got upset with Netflix's decision and wanted manufactures/carriers to do something about it.
Do we as users just expect too much?
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I definitely do get your point of view. And you bring up a great point that carriers that want to milk you out of your money do like Motorola devices. I wonder though if this is to please the carrier or save there warranty/repair costs. If they do do it to cut costs/risks it directly benefits the carriers. So it works in their advantage both ways.
But, like what happened with Netflix's unwillingness to come to Android, Motorola's steps might pay off. And a lot of people got upset with Netflix's decision and wanted manufactures/carriers to do something about it.
Do we as users just expect too much?
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Just as cegna09 said, if you damage your phone through rooting/modding, you void the warranty so it would only seem that they do it to appeal to the carriers.
It seems HTC is jumping on the bandwagon as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
I see a strategy here. Motorola, and now HTC, seem to be making their phones harder to crack and more difficult to mod. What this tells me is that they are trying to reduce the dev community down to just the hardcore players in an attempt to improve their profit margins. How? Well, if you can't update the phone yourself through something like flashing a custom rom or add your own features then they will have more control over the choice selection in their phones. One example would be the Atrix itself, while it has the hardware Moto could restrict the software and then in the future they could release a phone with the software but not the hardware. Does anyone ever ask themselves why can one phone have a certain feature and not another one?
This is what's going to happen people. Get used to it. We are in the hands of the worst kinds of people - "Big Cellular"
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A part of me wants to just a get a Nexus S and be done with. I may.
Their development threads are flooded. I know our might pick up, but it'll never be the same.
Why doesn't doesn't the same thing apply to our phone as did with the iphone, why aren't were covered under the DMCA? Iphone users can freely mod/jailbreak their handsets because of this and not only that apply has to still cover them under warenty. How is this any different?
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Why doesn't doesn't the same thing apply to our phone as did with the iphone, why aren't were covered under the DMCA? Iphone users can freely mod/jailbreak their handsets because of this and not only that apply has to still cover them under warenty. How is this any different?
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If Apple can prove your device was jailbroken then it voids your warranty. It is in their License Agreement.
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If Apple can prove your device was jailbroken then it voids your warranty. It is in their License Agreement.
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Only until you don't restore.
Hi guys
you all probably read the article about motorola might be unlocking the bootloader later this year
so i don't wanna be the party pooper but don't forget the last marketing trick motorola played on us with the motorola milestone, no i don't mean the Locked Bootloader, i mean the Flash 10.1 support.
we all remember the marketing campaign saying that the motorola milestone will be supporting the flash 10.1 plugin, a statement that was sorry to say: a lie.
eventually the flash support came but after a very very long wait but the marketing trick did it, and the milestone was a great success, so maybe motorola is playing that trick on us again to get the Atrix 4g's sales up.
i hope i'm very very wrong and they'll prove me wrong very soon
for now all we can do is just wait either for the bootloaader to be community broken or for motorola to free it
It would certainly work as a marketing trick...but it would not raise sales anywhere near as much as the notion of flash support. Devs and those of us who like our phones as customized and "free" as possible are only a small fraction of the market.
Regardless, I hope we are both wrong. =)
This should be posted here, but in any event I'm sure Motorola is just saying this to shut people up. They've got it on the back burner again no doubt. They might make a move in the far future but I'm not holding my breath. It's nothing to shove this aside for another few quarters while we writhe in agony toiling over how to unlock the bootloader (the devs at least, us peons just ***** and moan lol).
Yes they are playing a new game with us. But hopefully they will do something about it soon.
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IMHO they are playing again with a unlocked bootloader just like facebook before... they have bad xoom sales and not sure about atrix but i guess are low. so they try atract more geek people (we are majority ) so i guess its a lie again.... but i hope we are all wrong and moto join sony ;D
Sales are poor and they don't know why. You would think being the first on the market with a dual core phone would drive sales but they blew it. They shipped the Atrix with a locked bootloader and lied about huspa capabilities. Now they're paying the price with bad publicity and dissapointing sales. Heads should roll but stubborn people always think they're right so they'll do nothing until it's too late. I have a feeling very few current Atrix owners will ever buy another Motorola product. Customers don't like being strung along (bootloader) and lied to (huspa).
I think the one the real problems that motorola has with its products is that they may be pioneers on the hardware side, not only the atrix look at the milestone it was the best at first, they lack a lot of innovation on the UI & design side.
i mean look at most of the new HTC devices, or even the LG optimus 2x ( lg wasn't a real player at the android game 'till now )
Motorola must change its Apple policy about locking the developers out of its products.
I hope i'm so wrong but time will tell
jutt a little info for you guys ... at&t locked it not moto... the difference between moto and lets say htc is that moto is the best at crypto there is , while they have suffered in years past with no innovation and poor sales there contracts for crypto for people kept it alive .. this is why the statement said where there partners would allow it. Its like if i asked you to fill in on my hardball team for 30+ league, but actually you were Roy Holiday, sure you are pitching and using the same rules as the other team , but because of your level of talent the other team really has no chance to hit
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jutt a little info for you guys ... at&t locked it not moto... the difference between moto and lets say htc is that moto is the best at crypto there is , while they have suffered in years past with no innovation and poor sales there contracts for crypto for people kept it alive .. this is why the statement said where there partners would allow it. Its like if i asked you to fill in on my hardball team for 30+ league, but actually you were Roy Holiday, sure you are pitching and using the same rules as the other team , but because of your level of talent the other team really has no chance to hit
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If att locked the bootloader, why is the inspire's unlocked?
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hotweels258 said:
If att locked the bootloader, why is the inspire's unlocked?
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the inspire was cracked, it shipped locked.
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jutt a little info for you guys ... at&t locked it not moto... the difference between moto and lets say htc is that moto is the best at crypto there is , while they have suffered in years past with no innovation and poor sales there contracts for crypto for people kept it alive .. this is why the statement said where there partners would allow it. Its like if i asked you to fill in on my hardball team for 30+ league, but actually you were Roy Holiday, sure you are pitching and using the same rules as the other team , but because of your level of talent the other team really has no chance to hit
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and why is Droid X, Droid 2, et. al locked? It's moto.. at&t blocks sideloading but may have been happy that moto locked the bootloader...
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jutt a little info for you guys ... at&t locked it not moto... the difference between moto and lets say htc is that moto is the best at crypto there is , while they have suffered in years past with no innovation and poor sales there contracts for crypto for people kept it alive .. this is why the statement said where there partners would allow it. Its like if i asked you to fill in on my hardball team for 30+ league, but actually you were Roy Holiday, sure you are pitching and using the same rules as the other team , but because of your level of talent the other team really has no chance to hit
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I've seen you say this before, do you have an actual source for this information or is it an educated guess? (yes I know you're a recognized person on this forum, but that doesn't mean that I don't want proof)
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jutt a little info for you guys ... at&t locked it not moto...
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The Bell/Telstra Atrix is also locked and it's well known out there that most of the Motorola devices is Bootloader Locked, regardless the cell company you buy it from.
Before getting the atrix i got my milestone from a cell company that also sells Htc devices which is bootloader Unlocking friendly.
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the inspire was cracked, it shipped locked.
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maybe the Inspire is being shipped out locked BUT is crackable, as opposed to Motorola device no matter which cell company sells it.
What all of us want is to crack it, I don't think anyone would mind if it community cracked or Moto unlocked, the all point is it being unlocked
and with motorola devices it's close to impossible.
Please don't get discouraged, this statement from Motorola was just a small victory.
I am still working just as passionately to get further. I have been directed to the Software Team working on this "Initiative" and should hopefully speak to them soon.
The aim of the game is to get something concrete, not smoke and mirrors. Until that happens I will keep blocking their social networking marketing (look at their comments on facebook) and will keep trying to get in touch with them.
Look at Antennagate, anything that gets enough attention will have an outcome!
this will be my last post because you didnt read the first one so ill "Slow it down" your you guys ... and mr i want proof guy please feel free to use the google bar on your phone, I am not your teacher FLOL...
World Crypto Playoffs Rankings1.Motorola
2.Sony
3.Samsung
4.HTC
5. ARE YOU GETING THE IDEA?
Motorola Could Give a Flying ---- about it, they sell the phone to carriers, Carriers want it locked, it gets locked. EVERY DEVICE COMES LOCKED, BUT MOTOROLA IS #1 ON THE CRYPTO SCALE SO THEY ARE NOT AS EASY TO CRACK.
But why are some devices not locked ? wel they are google devices and they were either forced to be left unlocked, and or the manufacturer was not Contracted to lock it , as in it was not part of the paid contract or agreement
not dev, moved to proper forum
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this will be my last post because you didnt read the first one so ill "Slow it down" your you guys ... and mr i want proof guy please feel free to use the google bar on your phone, I am not your teacher FLOL...
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This still doesn't make any sense, motorola chooses to lock their phones to avoid having to deal with the attempted warranty returns and exchanges that are due to typical people trying to flash their phone or perform some mod and failing, then crying for a new device. Locking people out SAVES them money, this is why they do it. Until I'm proved wrong, I'll stick to saying that AT&T did not step in and say "Lock this bootloader down." There is no carrier that is particularly lenient or strict on the "hackability" of their phones (aside from maybe verizon), and no manufacturer that is going to rewrite their entire software base for one of the multiple companies they could sell their phone through, so I'll say that it was planned from the start to lock the bootloader down.
Is preventing people from "messing up" their phones the only reason a company would lock their bootloader?
I think more than protecting against warranty returns the locked bootloaders allow for planned obsolescence. Ice Cream drops and your atrix gets no update what do you do? Buy a newer device.
http://rootzwiki.com/content.php?r=225-The-end-of-MotoBlur
I know who's making my next phone. Thoughts?
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Does this mean unlocked bootloaders for Motorola?!
edit: Also here http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/google-acquiring-motorola-mobility/
Larry page said it will continue to be run as a seperate company.
With that said...Google also has share holders and must improve Motorola mobilities stocks now. So they have to do what's in the best interest of those holders. As much as we would like to believe what they say by only being to strenghten android and their patents I am afraid there will be no choice but to drive extreme inovavtion in moto mob thus cutting other competitors short. They will eventually have little choice honestly.
Point is don't believe all the PR that Google is spreading at the moment.
Lg Optimus G - Locked bootloader
Htc One X+ - Locked bootloader.
Galaxy note II - Out of my price/size range regardless of bootloader.
Xperia TL- Locked bootloader
Galaxy S3 - may grab but, not really thrilled about it like I would have been a few months back.
Nexus 4 - not paying 400$+ for 16 gb of memory and lack of LTE.
I really don't feel like I'm being *that* picky with what I want... Dev Support, better battery life than my captivate, a nice (preferably ips) screen. Either 32 gigs of memory or expandable storage.. and ideally LTE.
Anyone else out there feel kinda like they don't have any "real" options for their next device? I'm stuck on a family plan at the moment and feel like at&t is trolling me to be quite honest.
I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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Shawn said:
I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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It's a real shame too. There are a lot of nice phones being locked down for no real clear cut reason.
I mean I understand that they will sell regardless of whether or not I buy any given phone.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.
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.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.
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People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.
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People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.
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While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.
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While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.
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A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.
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Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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It's my understanding the new nexus will be about the same size as the Gnex or AFAIK it is.
I don't care if it has carrier branding, I just want the ability to install the latest version of Cyanogen until I'm eligible for a new device.
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There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.
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Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.
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I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.
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Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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Oh no, I just have adhd tendencies like rambling.
At any rate, I am really hoping LG decides to throw out some way to unlock the bootloader. I'd really love to have a quad core device with an IPS display this time around.
I don't have anything against the SAMOLED displays but, I would personally prefer a sharper image to a more saturated image.
AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.
My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
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jhotmann said:
AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.
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I would wait for a little while at least and see if the Optimus G gets an unlocked bootloader.. it would be godmode then. But, I have to wait till Dec 1st anyway.
gagdude said:
My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
Sent from my DROID2 using xda premium
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Not entirely a bad thing.. Tmo has great selection of phones and AFAIK is a little more open with bootloaders and stuff.
I'm only getting the Nexus 4 because my current phone is pretty beaten and battered by now. (not to mention 2 years old)
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