Google aquiring Motorola Mobility.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/supercharging-android-google-to-acquire.html?m=1
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Sounds like google is finally gonna get some type of protection from that cry baby *teve $obs, i mean he can only have some many lawsuites before people start getting tired of his failed attempts to keep iPhone on top
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I like the name Motoroogle (from an article i read on Extreme Tech) Has a nice ring too it. Lol
This is great! We now know who is bringing the next nexus phone! and they will probably be doing it for a long time. This was probably the best company to merge with
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This is great! We now know who is bringing the next nexus phone! and they will probably be doing it for a long time. This was probably the best company to merge with
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Yeah i agree,and if they stay sensitive to allowing us control of our phones then when Htc or other partners get outta line Motoroogle will tell'm shape up or no more for you.
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This is great! We now know who is bringing the next nexus phone! and they will probably be doing it for a long time. This was probably the best company to merge with
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Do we? Don't most of the rumors still strongly point to Samsung?
Personally I dig it only because I like Google and want to see them armed with an arsenal of patents so that Android won't be killed by patent trolls. Never had a Moto phone myself but I haven't heard great things. Aren't they known for having crappy, break apart build quality?
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Do we? Don't most of the rumors still strongly point to Samsung?
Personally I dig it only because I like Google and want to see them armed with an arsenal of patents so that Android won't be killed by patent trolls. Never had a Moto phone myself but I haven't heard great things. Aren't they known for having crappy, break apart build quality?
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yeah its still up in the air to who the next nexus phone is going too.
Well I will probably get flack for this, but here goes. Before you get all happy about this aquisition by Google. Remember who Motorola has been in bed with for the better part of their phone "Greatness" , Verizon . The original we're going to throttle your data, you better not be tethering (even though your paying for unlimited) , if we can't charge you for it you can't do it, we're going to control everything you do on your phone carrier. So even though it's Google new company, the employees are still the old regime. With the old habits, especially the Executives. I'll always remember a quote from one of Verizon's press releases stating " the Companies bottom line is always the most important aspect in considerations involving customers" . I understand this true for any company. But to say it in a press release like that says a lot about how they perceive their customer base. Yes, I understand this is only my opinon
No flack here,you make avalid point
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Google should have bought HTC.
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Google should have bought HTC.
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Yeah but do they have the patent portfolio tomake themselves as attractive? Hardware would have been superior.
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Google should have bought HTC.
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Couldn't agree more. I was just thinking that when I read about it our newspaper this morning.
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Couldn't agree more. I was just thinking that when I read about it our newspaper this morning.
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Wouldn't make sense. HTC makes great phones but do not have the large patent portfolio that Moto has built up over many years in the mobile industry.
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i live in seattle and googles from redmond, theyve been on the news about this quite a bit and theyve even said themselves they just wanted the patent portfolio to help in defending android and the developers against apple, microsoft and the rest of the other bull**** patent trolls.
I see where this will certainly help Google, and Motorola, with regards to patent lawsuits. But how will this help Samsung, and HTC? Is Google going to step in, and say "Get out of here, patent troll....check this out....PWNT!!!"
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I see where this will certainly help Google, and Motorola, with regards to patent lawsuits. But how will this help Samsung, and HTC? Is Google going to step in, and say "Get out of here, patent troll....check this out....PWNT!!!"
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I'd imagine that since these patents are typically incredibly vague such as "scrolling menus" that if Apple sues HTC or Samsung over infringing on one of their vaguely worded patents then Google could jump in and brandish one of their equally vague patents and say that Google actually has the patent for it, not Apple.
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just so yall know i didnt see a splash screen for this new motoroogle or googlerola or whatever you want lol (it has only been a day) so i decided to make one. I posted it on im.nick.hellos new thread for splash screens along with some others i made.
I just have to wait for him to convert them into splash img format and a flashable.
SO GO CHECK IT OUT
BTW: I hope im not hijacking the thread. I dont think i am because it is technically about the thread in a way. but if i am please set me straight!
Edit: In regards to the post above there is no real reason to buy HTC
1)they are doing great on there own
2) HTC would not give up sense and google would not want sense
3) HTC would be like 3X the amount that Motorola was
4)Motorola already had made the commitment to android and that was its sole operating system unlike HTC where they make phones for WP7 and Android.
4) Motorolas patent portfolio is much bigger
5) Motorolas not getting sued lol
Just my 2 cents theres probably other reasons too
Google did it for the Patents
I heard its to help cover their a$$ with apple lawsuits
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You know it is,to go from having 317 patents to over 17,000 sure change the game. Literally from defense to offense,see if they give apple some of their own medicine .
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So Samsung's bragging again that it's going to introduce a "evolution" and in the picture its the Galaxy S and then a white blog signifying it's "masterpiece" that it hopes to unveil on Feb. 13. Speculation seems to point at it's possibly them actually showing off the Vibrant 4G or another device.
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
Take a read,
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/samsung-to-introduce-the-next-evolution-of-the-galaxy-s-on-february-13-but-will-they-ever-update-it/
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The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
I understand they can't just release a phone and wait 2 years to release another one. But ( I guess I cut the ending short) they need to work on supporting what they have out now along side what they push out in the future. It's sad that the cell phone business has taken on Apples take of things. Make a new device, sells millions. A year later push out the same phone but with "enhancements" and newer things. Wait another year and do the same thing, and then drop support for the original after the 2nd one comes out..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Unfortunately as soon as Samsung announced a phone with 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ screen and a Tegra2-beating Orion SOC, everyone who were complaining about the Android updates will secretly be counting their savings so that they can get the latest and the greatest hardware. Such is the way of phone upgraditis.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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You spelled "whiny" wrong....
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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im a whiney little ***** haha......have you spent any time in the general section??? nothing but whining lately. what makes me any different?? because i go against the majority, which makes me an easy target??? take a nap dude. at least i make points and contribute to the debate, i dont think ive seen you make one yet. youjustkillpeople apparently
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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since the beginning?? i started my *****-thread on monday.....this class-action/fck samsung/lack of froyo crap has been going on for weeks....pleasedontkillme, thats all i ask
back up your accusations dude
Samsung sucks yo.
EDIT: NVM..
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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Dan_Brutal said:
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.......AND SAMSUNG STILL HASNT UPDATED ME TO VERSION 65.32.9!!!! I HATE SAMSUNG. lets start a class action lawsuit!!! hell no, we wont go! hell no, we wont go!!!!!
apparently we are the neglected orphans of the smartphone world. its only us. its only samsung. wowowowow.....it is so much fun to sit here at work, and just wonder how miserable it must be to invest so much emotion into the OS of your phone (which you can get in a custom ROM anyway)
you knwo what would solve all of these problems?? TRADE BLAKE WHEELER
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
golmar88 said:
Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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dude ive been saying this for the past two days, and these weenies just flame me because i challenge their little cause......i think this post says it all:
-Originally Posted by TopShelf10-
So ignorant to the fast-growing industry of the cell phone. Name one combination of user-devicemodel-OSprovider-Manufacturer-NetworkProvider that is flawless. You roam around the internet you will find people complaining about these kinds of things eeeeverywhere. Lack of updates, lack of device support, lack of customer loyalty, unkept promises, hardware/software issues, blahblahblahhhhHHHhHHhHHHhhhHH
Nowadays, smartphones are outdated/obsolete within 6months of their release. Yes, indeed, its a monster that the manufacturers have created for themselves, and theres no way they can keep up with their competition while also keeping every single one of you crying babies happy. Yes, its an ugly industry, and it isnt fair. BUT ITS THE WAY IT IS.
*****, moan, *****, moan, *****, moan alllllll you want. File your class action lawsuits, spam their customer service lines, create facebook pages and twitter accounts, start petitions. do you think its going to change ANYTHING?? do you think its just THAT easy? you guys just sound so damn pathetic with all of your bellyaching.
Youre on a forum that is meant for modding your device, and making it better than the way it came out of the box, yet you are complaining that they wont do it for you. Then why are you guys even here??? No device is perfect. And when the day comes that they do release a perfect device, they will release an even more perfect device shortly after....thus making the prior one not perfect, and people *****ing for updates on their old ones to make it as good as the new one. Round-and-round we go.
Consumers will NEVER be happy, and you guys are proving that. Do some research before buying a damn phone next time. Dont buy it right when its released just because its the hottest thing, and having the phone that is on all the commercials gives you a sense of purpose. Maybe next time wait a couple months, come onto XDA, and see if the children are whining about the damn GPS. That would be a tell-tale warning, wouldnt you say? Then Samsung wont have your money, youll still have your upgrade to play with, and you wont be stuck with a device that didnt get sharted from god's ass. Problem solved.
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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if i didnt use all of my 5 "thanks" for the day, id thank you......um......thank you
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.....
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Lmfao. That **** cracks me up. Got Nos on that *****?
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Hey guys,
here is HTC Facebook page.
Looks like it is starting to pick up with people complaining about the bootloader being locked.
Maybe we can all jump on there and let them know how happy we are that they are doing this, along with what other phones we will be buying now.
Hit thanks!
Couldn't you just have posted this in here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094253
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dirkyd3rk said:
Couldn't you just have posted this in here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094253
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lol some one is cranky
dirkyd3rk said:
Couldn't you just have posted this in here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094253
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He did the right thing.
CheesyNutz said:
lol some one is cranky
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Lol, maybe...... happens when you don't get any in the morning.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Lol, maybe...... happens when you don't get any in the morning.
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lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
OH SNAP
Lmfao.......
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conqu1stador said:
lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
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:rolls eyes: im not usually a ****, just sometimes ..... *bastard*
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conqu1stador said:
lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
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LOL...
Thanks guys.
Its not like i put it in the Dev section... Jeeze
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lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
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Men who live in chocolate factories with bunch of little orange dudes shouldn't point fingers.
tejasrichard said:
Men who live in chocolate factories with bunch of little orange dudes shouldn't point fingers.
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Hahahahahaha im done!
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lmao...wtf is really going on lol
Well. I posted. Think ill post again. This really pisses me off.
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tejasrichard said:
Men who live in chocolate factories with bunch of little orange dudes shouldn't point fingers.
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Damn you, Tejas!
*shameface*
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Off topic: Im also sad because my 1yr old LG 46" LCD went out this morning. Sucker just shut off while I was watching it, doesn't show any sign if life. Glad I bought the bestbuy blk tie they will swap it out. Still pissed though. Grrr
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I just checked the HTC fan page. Only one post on that entire first page is NOT about the locked bootloader. That's just amazing to me. Question is, will HTC listen to what the customer wants?
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I just checked the HTC fan page. Only one post on that entire first page is NOT about the locked bootloader. That's just amazing to me. Question is, will HTC listen to what the customer wants?
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yeah i saw the page too but they won't change it before launch... something made them do this to the 3d. basically i think htc is saying them do not support flashing custom roms.
ill stick to my new nexus s 4g thanks!
Here is what i wrote,
Signed/Encrypted bootloaders... Come on HTC... This really pisses me off. Think about it, really, what are you losing here? Almost nothing. It is the persons choice to root, so you lose no quality control.
But back onto the actually point. Signing/encrypting bootloaders or other functions of a device that a consumer owns was considered a radical idea. It was frowned upon and was thought of as childish. And that is how you guys are acting, childish. You lock down your phones because your scared of what.... progress?
I understand there are some problems for you with rooting. For example, free wireless tethering, ability to use leaked ROMs and other factors. But this is such a small hand off to wage war with developers. Microsoft did it, Sony did it, even Apple did it.... Look were they all are now. The hackers do everything they can to make sure they can hack and DOMINATE the devices they lock down. In Microsoft's and Sony's case, there is a difference in reason, piracy. Now, tell me, if I can already install any app on my phone, what piracy are you protecting users form by not allowing them to do anything custom with their phone?
You have brought the whole world a step backwards, as a lot of people believe in your philosophies, and eventually will standardize them. What this about to start is enormous, there is no problem right now for you because people aren't even trying to hack your gay signature checks. Why? Because those developers DONT BUY THAT PHONE. ------->DONT<---- Buy that phone. Now, once that this standdard is implemented with every single modern phone, you guys will be tormented by the constant stream of hacks and exploits the a full force of developers can bring. You will be stressed to the point as the iPhone jailbreaking scene replicates itself to Android devices.
I mean come on HTC, do you really want to start all of this? I wouldn't. By not locking down your devices, you gain more customers(even though its a small percent that would leave because of your decisions), you gain a better view from people as a good company, and you get the benefit of geeks saying good things about you on their blogs. Yes HTC, thats were all the reviews come from, US. We will spare you no mercy in our reviews if you condemn us to this treatment any longer.
On a final note, i hope to rethink your decisions to sign/encrypt bootloaders and other parts of the phone. The whole point of Android is to be OPEN, not CLOSED. Thats what makes it different. The point is to be open, no matter what COST or FACTORS convince you otherwise. I do not even want to buy the HTC Evo 3D now because of your changes. Now HTC, rethink what you have done, please, and see if you can change it before it gets out of hand. In the end, you are the company that gets to make the decisions, but we are the consumers who buy your products.
Thanks so much for a great ride so far HTC,
You will be missed
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HTC responded back.....
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Update on Bootloaders Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon...."
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So does this mean the Evo 3d can never be rooted? Or does it just make it more difficult ?
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http://www.dailytech.com/Apples+Plo...+HTC+Nears+Fruition+With+Win/article22173.htm
This is crap. I hate Apple!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15802781
[G+ page] Appleboycott
Look what i found!!
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I'm getting really tired of this.
All these companies, including Google, need to file a class action and shut this company down forever.
Piece of ****.
"Can't compete?
Well, we will just sue for stealing even though that's exactly what we do"
Don't see it happening. Something will go down. Apple needs to be put in check. Gets to the point of absurdity.
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bahahahahhahahahahahahhaahahhha
Exactly. Sore losers... this is why the human race will never evolve to its full potential... business is a dirty word.
So where does this Apple guy ?....
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rrr1986 said:
this is why the human race will never evolve to its full potential...
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Seperate discussion but the human race will never evolve to it's full potential until a few things stop:
1) Ism's. {i.e. catholicism, atheism, capitalism, communism}
2) Nationalism {in the first category but such a serious problem that it needs it's own category}
3) Money. {Folks, it's a piece of paper. You assign a value to it all you want but it's a piece of paper}
wow, whats next? the copyright the action of expanding your lungs so that they can charge you for every breath and still deem air " free" ? as an other poster already said, its beyond absurd
Yeah you must have seen the zeitgeist movies huh. If not check them out on YouTube.
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Yeah you must have seen the zeitgeist movies huh. If not check them out on YouTube.
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Never have but I'll look.
Apple is stifling innovation. Why hasn't sprint stepped in this they said something about the att tmobile merger. the evo was its secret android weapon and the 3d is doing well too if their stock goes dry of those they're screwed. Google should also have something to say about this as well
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Yeah you must have seen the zeitgeist movies huh. If not check them out on YouTube.
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I have and you're right...
xopher.hunter said:
Apple is stifling innovation. Why hasn't sprint stepped in this they said something about the att tmobile merger. the evo was its secret android weapon and the 3d is doing well too if their stock goes dry of those they're screwed. Google should also have something to say about this as well
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Because Sprint needs the iPhone to stay competitive.
Think like this...if the At&t BS merger goes through then Sprint will be the smallest of the big carriers....by far...and the only not to have an iPhone.
This sucks bad. HTC is the best phone company bar none.
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I need to learn how to use the xda mobile app. (;
ITT: Multiple people that don't use the quote button when replying to someone.
geez, chill guys
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This is crap. I hate Apple!
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You hate Apple for this?? this is ridiculous,
If you must hate something, hate the patent office who granted the patents.
Hate the judge who indeed confirmed this was a violation of license.
Apple indeed patented this, and used it in their software (check the mail program in macos for example, it will parse automatically date, locations etc and create events for you, it is sweet and very well done.). Microsoft did not copy this, because it is PATENTED, HTC decided to simply use the patent without permission, who are they that they can steal other's technology while other vendors won't?
HTC violated it. Apple has to protect their assets, what's the point of patents then?
See, same thing with the great instant DHCP stuff in macos, microsoft + linux don't have that. Linux is thinking about doing something similar to improve their product, but they are intelligent enough to simply not steal macos code.
Be mad at the judge, be mad at HTC that they didn't have the R&D to come up with their own so now they'll go down, be mad at the whole Patents/copyright stuff and sure, be mad at Apple for developing the technology and protecting it.
This is ridiculous.
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You hate Apple for this?? this is ridiculous,
If you must hate something, hate the patent office who granted the patents.
Hate the judge who indeed confirmed this was a violation of license.
Apple indeed patented this, and used it in their software (check the mail program in macos for example, it will parse automatically date, locations etc and create events for you, it is sweet and very well done.). Microsoft did not copy this, because it is PATENTED, HTC decided to simply use the patent without permission, who are they that they can steal other's technology while other vendors won't?
HTC violated it. Apple has to protect their assets, what's the point of patents then?
See, same thing with the great instant DHCP stuff in macos, microsoft + linux don't have that. Linux is thinking about doing something similar to improve their product, but they are intelligent enough to simply not steal macos code.
Be mad at the judge, be mad at HTC that they didn't have the R&D to come up with their own so now they'll go down, be mad at the whole Patents/copyright stuff and sure, be mad at Apple for developing the technology and protecting it.
This is ridiculous.
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You're right, there's plenty of blame to go around.
That doesn't change the fact that instead of trying to develop, instead of trying to be innovatitve, to keep in the market...they are sinking their claws into any company that they can.
They literally probably had their programmers going through code to try to find patents that might possibly have been violated to sue, instead of having them ya know...program.
It's sick. It has to be stopped.
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Seperate discussion but the human race will never evolve to it's full potential until a few things stop:
1) Ism's. {i.e. catholicism, atheism, capitalism, communism}
2) Nationalism {in the first category but such a serious problem that it needs it's own category}
3) Money. {Folks, it's a piece of paper. You assign a value to it all you want but it's a piece of paper}
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You are so right and this is just the tip of the iceberg
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Apple is very obviously twisting the law to kill a very worthy competitor, Android. What about ios5's new pull down notification system. It is a straight rip off of Androids notification system. I have an imac at home and may just throw it in the garbage.
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mattykinsx said:
You're right, there's plenty of blame to go around.
That doesn't change the fact that instead of trying to develop, instead of trying to be innovatitve, to keep in the market...they are sinking their claws into any company that they can.
They literally probably had their programmers going through code to try to find patents that might possibly have been violated to sue, instead of having them ya know...program.
It's sick. It has to be stopped.
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It might be sick, but this is the nature of the business, it has been this way for years, and every company is expected to defend their own patents/copyrights.
This is the reason you would see other companies buying out smaller companies, sometimes just for a few patents, or get rid of the competition.
In this case, i don't know what Apple and HTC exchanges were, but normally it would go something like:
Hey HTC, you are violating our patent X and Y, please remove this from your product.
HTC says, sorry no can't do.
Apple says, fine, we'll see you in court and have the judge decide.
Judge says, yup. HTC, pay up, or remove that crap out of your product.
This is normal, this is what happens in pretty much any business.
I do like HTC and their products, and not a particular fan of apple, but this is simply Business As Usual. Choose to hate apple for other reasons please.
I'm not sure if its just me, but how many people have seen and tried out the new market? It looks A LOT like windows phone 7s UI. With all of the lawsuits being filed lately, does anyone see microsoft going after google?
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I'm not sure if its just me, but how many people have seen and tried out the new market? It looks A LOT like windows phone 7s UI. With all of the lawsuits being filed lately, does anyone see microsoft going after google?
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Who knows. Corporate lawsuits are always on going and will always be something excepted. Most of the time they are used as a way of stopping your competitors or at least trying to compete against you. Really not very legitimate. Apple is a prime example. They steal from others, like Microsoft has done for many yrs and start legal action. I can't make this stuff up, research it.
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Who knows. Corporate lawsuits are always on going and will always be something excepted. Most of the time they are used as a way of stopping your competitors or at least trying to compete against you. Really not very legitimate. Apple is a prime example. They steal from others, like Microsoft has done for many yrs and start legal action. I can't make this stuff up, research it.
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+1 Look at Apple, it seems like they are suing everyone in the smartphone and tablet market. I believe Samsung is one of their targets for phones being too similar to the iPhone. I had an iPhone and IMO the Epic pisses on that thing anyway. No wonder Apple is mad lol.
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+1 Look at Apple, it seems like they are suing everyone in the smartphone and tablet market. I believe Samsung is one of their targets for phones being too similar to the iPhone. I had an iPhone and IMO the Epic pisses on that thing anyway. No wonder Apple is mad lol.
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Everyone is suing everyone because the ****ty US patent system allows it. The US patent system needs a complete overhaul.
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Everyone is suing everyone because the ****ty US patent system allows it. The US patent system needs a complete overhaul.
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I like the system as the way it is. It keeps tons and tons of people employed and they make a lot of money. And no I am not a lawyer or patent holder. I am a pc deployment tech.
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havent tried it yet, but from screenshots I guess I can see why people would say that. So were going from xbox looking to winmo7 looking? I guess its a slight improvement... aside from aesthetics, does it navigate better? The thing I like about android is that it will probably change way before winmo does, just like TW will move on from its similarities to iOS way before iOS does... so who cares? As far as lawsuits, it does appear to just be corporate tactics, even if just to get a headline on engadget for a day, free advertising. I love apples one of wanting to see what samsung has coming in the future... looks like apple is developing something new, and this is how they do it!
All publicity is good publicity. "apple suing this" "apple suing that" "apple, apple, apple"
Drills it in your mind
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Microsoft is already making 5 dollars for every android device that is activated. Due to some patents they soaked up and now use it against Google.
Would hope they won't go after this too.
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Microsoft is already making 5 dollars for every android device that is activated. Due to some patents they soaked up and now use it against Google.
Would hope they won't go after this too.
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No they aren't
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No they aren't
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This, not settled yet (patent purchases from nortel still need reviewed by trade commission and fcc), and...
Firstly, love the new market.
Second, good freaking luck if microsoft tried that. Remember, this just the market's new interface. The "look and feel" you're refering to is windows phone 7's entire homescreen UI. Apples to oranges
On a side note; this is exactly why I think that a lot of apple's suit against samsung I going to go down in flames. They're trying to compare iOS's homescreen UI to touchwiz's app drawer. This would make te other half of the suit, that the external hardware appearance of the device's look similar, also somewhat shaky. I have a hard time believing that a judge will buy the arguement that people are choosing one device over another because of the external aesthetics alone (if you go with my first theory that the UI part will be thrown out), considering there have certainly been other devices with a middle select button that were never taken to court.
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+1 Look at Apple, it seems like they are suing everyone in the smartphone and tablet market. I believe Samsung is one of their targets for phones being too similar to the iPhone. I had an iPhone and IMO the Epic pisses on that thing anyway. No wonder Apple is mad lol.
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Apple thinks that they invented electronic devices. They have some pretty wild claims. Glad they don't make cars.....could you imagine that mess? They'd be claiming they invented the wheel, anything with 4 wheels is just copying them. They'd be trying to trademark items like "Sports Car", or "Coupe", and "Windshield Wiper".
They need to be slapped down with common sense approaches in the legal system.
They can't Sue Samsung because Samsung had a phone that looked similar to iPhone before it came out look it up
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All publicity is good publicity. "apple suing this" "apple suing that" "apple, apple, apple"
Drills it in your mind
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Good post, this is actually pretty spot on in my opinion. All these apple lawsuits accomplish 2 objectives for Apple as far as I can see.
1) Gets Apples name out in the tech blogs/sites regularly and gets the publicity.
2) Makes software and hardware manufacturers spend more time dealing with public/court/etc. After all, time is money.
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Yeah they are.
From cellblock D
Indeed I used to admire Apple a few years ago but now I find them distasteful due to their haughty attitude. It isn't like that they invented the entire world.
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Yeah they are.
From cellblock D
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No they aren't. Leave statements of fact to people who know what they are talking about.
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As Apple said, its about the "Ecosystem" they don't have to be right...they just have to point fingers....
It kinda works like this, if you keep claiming a person is a "murderer" and spread the word around, people somewhere deep down will partly believe it. Negative news travels faster then positive news. So the general public will gain the impression that everyone is "Stealing" or "Copying" Apple regardless of whether its true or not...
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They can't Sue Samsung because Samsung had a phone that looked similar to iPhone before it came out look it up
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Which phone is this? But I think the problem is that most likely Samsung didn't actually patent the design of their phone. Thats what Apple does. They patent everything in the broken patent system, especially generic non-tangible things like the rough layout of their UI. They even go as far as to trademark the "highway 280" logo for their IOS maps app. Then they go off and sue everyone that relatively may somewhat be sorta kinda similar to them. All this instead of simply making a new and more innovative product. Hey if you can't beat em, litigate em.
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I don't see the resemblence to WinPhone 7. I'm not seeing any two tones, overly huge fonts and cut off words in this interface.
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I don't see the resemblence to WinPhone 7. I'm not seeing any two tones, overly huge fonts and cut off words in this interface.
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Haven't you heard? Microsoft invented square boxes...
it appears that Samsung and Google have decided not to launch the Galaxy Nexus (or Nexus Prime, or whatever it's called) and Ice Cream Sandwich at their October 11th Unpacked event. The two companies sent out a joint announcement reading:
Samsung and Google decide to postpone the new product announcement at CTIA Fall. We agree that it is just not the right time to announce a new product. New date and venue will be shortly announced.
The press event on the 11th was expected to be not only the debut for the successor to the Nexus S, but our first good look at the next version of Android. For whatever reason the companies have decided to delay that launch. But, if Eric Schmidt is true to his word, we shouldn't have to wait too much longer... he did promise us that it would launch by November. We'll let you know as soon as we get a new date to expect "something big."
Update: A Samsung spokesperson issued a follow up statement to CNET, confirming speculation that the reveal was postponed out of respect, following the passing of Steve Jobs. "We believe this is not the right time to announce a new product as the world expresses tribute to Steve Jobs's passing," the spokesperson explained.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-postpone-ice-cream-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/
Ladies and gentlemen, a national tragedy has happened this past week
the delaying of ICS..many of us shall be in mourning
Something called respect. ICS would totally over shadow the passing of Jobs. Its a classy move on part of Google and Samsung.
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Do the people from columbia have a different definition of respect?
(even though I joke I do agree it was the right call by google and samsung)
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Something called respect. ICS would totally over shadow the passing of Jobs. Its a classy move on part of Google and Samsung.
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Couldnt agree more. Not only that, but if they did go through with the event they probably would have gotten a lot of criticism from people who didnt realize this was planned out far in advance.
Totally understandable and couldn't expect less...
Nice move.
Respect where respect is due. RIP Steve!
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I understand the whole "respect for the dead" thing, but it still feels "weird" that they would delay this with all the lawsuits that Apple and Google had.
Would anyone else here do the same thing if you were constantly getting sued?...
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would steve have put off the apple keynote if eric schmidt had died?
no
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would steve have put off the apple keynote if eric schmidt had died?
no
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Oh, great. You know what Steve would have done. Cool.
Quick! Put in for a job with Apple. And on your resume, don't include anything but the phrase "I know what Steve would have done".
You, sir, will single-handedly lead Apple into the new era.
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Oh, great. You know what Steve would have done. Cool.
Quick! Put in for a job with Apple. And on your resume, don't include anything but the phrase "I know what Steve would have done".
You, sir, will single-handedly lead Apple into the new era.
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My thoughts exactly...
Lol
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Oh, great. You know what Steve would have done. Cool.
Quick! Put in for a job with Apple. And on your resume, don't include anything but the phrase "I know what Steve would have done".
You, sir, will single-handedly lead Apple into the new era.
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My thoughts exactly...
Lol
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you can be sarcastic all you want, but the truth is, other people respected steve, but steve respected noone publicly.
i can almost guarantee that he would not have put off a keynote due to someone else's death.
the man, while brilliant and revolutionary, was a ****
If you read.....they are only delaying the announcement not the release date. The delay of the announcement days after Steves passing is respectable and I actually like google/samsung more for doing so. Without the launch of the phone I think smartphones wouldn't be where they are today due to competitiveness.
It's basically just good public relations.
You don't want to make a major product announcement in an environment where it is not the biggest story of the day. The tech press and the mainstream media are still focused on Jobs and Apple.
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you can be sarcastic all you want, but the truth is, other people respected steve, but steve respected noone publicly.
i can almost guarantee that he would not have put off a keynote due to someone else's death.
the man, while brilliant and revolutionary, was a ****
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All I'm gonna say is for those that want to know "more" about Steve Jobs (and Gates for that matter), watch "Pirates of Silicon Valley".
You can find it in YouTube for free to watch.
IMO that is a 4 star movie (lots of drama too in there), and definitely worth watching!...
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+1
Pirateghost said:
you can be sarcastic all you want, but the truth is, other people respected steve, but steve respected noone publicly.
i can almost guarantee that he would not have put off a keynote due to someone else's death.
the man, while brilliant and revolutionary, was a ****
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I have to say I agree.
what exactly is ics and will atrix get it? or is it just for other android phones
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ltdanno360 said:
what exactly is ics and will atrix get it? or is it just for other android phones
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My mistake, sorry.
Phoneguy589 said:
Its just an optimized operating system like cm7 without all the extra junk manufacturers add to the phone like blur.
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oh kool
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Phoneguy589 said:
Its just an optimized operating system like cm7 without all the extra junk manufacturers add to the phone like blur.
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no, ICS is the next Android update that Google is making. it's going to merge Honeycomb and Gingerbread into one OS, and then it will be released to companies like Moto and Samsung. then we will see an ICS update in the future, with blur or touchwiz incorporated into the system.
it's just the next major update to Android ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich.