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Nexus One aka Google "FAIL"-phone

Update:
Engadget found the FCC filing: no at&t 3G.
That's a big FAIL on google's part. What's the point of selling the phone unlocked if you can only use it with one carrier?
FAIL!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/14/htc-nexus-one-blessed-by-the-fcc-with-t-mobile-and-att-huspa/
Update 2:
Could this be the first at&t android device?
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/motorola-backflip-enzo-bringing-android-contortions-to-atandt/
Mmmmhhh. Plenty of rumors today that Google will shortly release an unlocked android phone (HTC hardware).
Apparently, employees received the phone at a Friday event.
Might even come with at&t AND US t-mobile 3G (so quad-band 3G?).
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/12/google-employees-given-htc-made-google-phones/
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/12/android-dogfood-diet-for-holidays.html
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/12/google-phone-unlocked-confirmed/
Last night, we started seeing some Tweets from Google employees and others about a new Android-powered Google phone that was apparently handed out at an “all hands” meeting. Now Google is confirming that it is indeed “dogfood” testing a new Android device with employees around the world.
But this isn’t just another Android phone. Very trustworthy sources who have seen the phone say that it is the Google Phone we first wrote about last month (despite the uninformed saying we were dreaming). It will be branded Google and sold by Google as an unlocked phone, which could change everything. As we wrote in our original post:
Google is building their own branded phone that they’ll sell directly and through retailers. They were long planning to have the phone be available by the holidays, but it has now slipped to early 2010. The phone will be produced by a major phone manufacturer but will only have Google branding (Microsoft did the same thing with their first Zunes, which were built by Toshiba).
There won’t be any negotiation or compromise over the phone’s design of features – Google is dictating every last piece of it. No splintering of the Android OS that makes some applications unusable. Like the iPhone for Apple, this phone will be Google’s pure vision of what a phone should be.
The phone itself is being built by HTC, with a lot of input from Google. It seems to be a tailored version of the HTC Passion or the related HD2 (Unlocker scored some leaked picturesback in October which are of the same phone).
Here are the details we know so far about the phone: It will be called the Google Phone and will launch in early January, 2010. It won’t be sold by any one carrier, but instead will be an unlocked GSM phone. In the U.S., that means T-Mobile and possibly AT&T, whose exclusivity deal with the iPhone is about to run out. It will be running Android 2.1
The phone is “really, really fast,” says someone who has seen one in action. It runs on a Snapdragon chip, has a super high-resolution OLED touchscreen, is thinner than the iPhone, has no keyboard, and two mics. The mic on the back of the phone helps eliminate background noise, and it also has a “weirdly” large camera for a phone. And if you don’t like the touchscreen keyboard, a voice-to-text feature is supposed to let you dictate emails and notes by speaking directly into the phone.
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That would be very cool Looks like Google will be the exclusive seller with these unlocked!

I should have this phone (aka "Nexus One") in my hands on Monday

mr_notorious said:
I should have this phone (aka "Nexus One") in my hands on Monday
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And how is that? U work for Google?

galaxys said:
And how is that? U work for Google?
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connections...connections.

HTC Bravo
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Google Phone
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/12/nexus-one-google-phone-picture/

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HTC Bravo
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Same phone just different versions. I'm guessing Bravo will remain the htc version/name which will prolly be released in europe in april while nexus might be google's name and maybe passion will be what some carriers might call it. Seems like it'll be for Tmobile's 3g so it will work on At&t's Edge at least (maybe 3g too if they added the frequency); which does make sense since the first android phone was produced by htc and went to tmobile. If these rumors come to fruition, tmobile will finally have a phone to brag about. I'm sure everything will be clear by CES the latest (though I wouldn't be suprised if they'd make an announcement before the end of the year.)

i wonder where all the hype comes from.
we already had a device which was made by htc based on googles requirements. it was called tmobile G1.
So this is nothing more than a successor for me. Also i wonder what stuff like "this time google is responsible for the whole user experience" means.
Android is from Google, and as far as i know they did it on themselves since day 1. Nobody told them what to do. So how much more "own google experience" can the new device be, compared to the other "with Google" devices which also were based on Googles own Android?!
Well maybe HTC will provide some kind of google sense ui to make the user interface prettier.
But as it stands now i would prefer a HTC device like the HTC Bravo with HTC Sense to any google only device. If Google manages to overhaul the UI on some apps like the contact app, this might change of course. But i'm not sure if google can pull that off, HTC has some more years experience in this regard.

Svegetto said:
If these rumors come to fruition, tmobile will finally have a phone to brag about.
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tmobile has the IPhone aka "bragging rights device" in germany...

Wonder if it will run the Sense UI or will google slap Vanilla Android 2.? on this phone...

Nexus One
I really hope that it has Sense UI. Google has to be able to realize that HTC's take on their home screens is much better than the original design.

Nexus One is very cool. It comes with a 5MP camera with flash. I'm loving it so far.

redrazr7791 said:
Wonder if it will run the Sense UI or will google slap Vanilla Android 2.? on this phone...
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It runs Eclair 2.1 w/ Nexus UI.

mr_notorious said:
It runs Eclair 2.1 w/ Nexus UI.
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Nexus UI?
Looks like standard android to me =/

Well they tagged it as the Nexus UI. I don't know what's new until tomorrow.

mr_notorious said:
Well they tagged it as the Nexus UI. I don't know what's new until tomorrow.
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nexus..as in sony ericsson's x10 with nexus? i doubt that SE would be giving their UI out. its just called the nexus one.
looks hot tho, can't wait to pick it up.
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?

xtop said:
nexus..as in sony ericsson's x10 with nexus? i doubt that SE would be giving their UI out. its just called the nexus one.
looks hot tho, can't wait to pick it up.
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?
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The x10 has Timescape/MediaScape/Rachel UI?

google nexus ux (ux=user experience)

xtop said:
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?
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Not only going to look at it, I gonna get it. Early X-Mas for me. I can't say much...sorry. Phone is bounded to an NDA.
EDIT: My mistake, it's a UX, not a UI.

maybe it will have the ability to switch UI's, like the user would get the option to buy UI's.. like sense or rachel or motoblur...
probably not but that would be really cool

Maybe we should organize a boycott of the Galaxy Tab

I apologize for making another "I'm mad at Samsung for..." thread, but after trying for the past hours to get the JI5 update and failing, I'm a bit angrier than I usually am and want to hurt Samsung somewhere where they will feel it while not going to extremes like trying to organize a class action suit.
Ever since the Galaxy S line came out they really haven't done much to support it except release 3 buggy updates for three of the phones and completely ignore the one that's been out in the States for the longest (until the "made you look" event of today), yet they're so eager to show off that Galaxy Tab that they want everyone to be interested in and buy next month. I suggest simply spreading the word to everyone that no one should but that thing until they at least get their house in order and get the Galaxy S line up to the basic functionality they should have had out of the box. Spread the word that they apparently can't support the products they release and that nobody should touch those things until they can prove they are going to stand behind the products they want us to spend our hard earned money on.
Before some of you start flaming me, I do very well know this is a forum for people who mod their phones and have no intention of staying stock. I mod my phones too. Even with the fixes I've flashed I still have issues with GPS and the phone resetting. I appreciate everything the community has done to help make these phones better and I whole heartedly thank them for doing so, but at the same time there's a whole company with a division of people getting paid to do this that hasn't been able to supply us with one good fix after nearly 3 months time. It's time we should make every potential customer aware of that.

I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.

That's understandable, personally I could care less about being able to make calls on tablet. It's not like you would be able to take calls on both your cell phone and the tablet. And I sure wouldn't care for having another phone number.
I love my iPad btw!

masterotaku said:
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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To be honest I am not surprised they are disabling the calling feature. In fact I would be surprised if they didn't.
I mean I for one wouldn't want to stop using my vibrant to use that giant tablet.
Also no matter what it will have wifi so it can be more like a laptop on the go and playing games on it will be awesome from the looks of it.

Well if they are just disabling the feature then that means the hardware to make calls is still built in so someone could root it and make calls anyway. But I'm still not getting one cause it'll be just like my phone. Tablets are a median of a phone and a notebook but nowadays the Ipad is the best out.
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Can't say I'm feeling pouty and petulant about Samsung in general, but I crossed four Tabs off my Xmas list when they announced the phone functionality was disabled.
As for the frequent comments about the Tab being too large to use as a phone, I use my phone as a speakerphone most of the time, and Bluetooth headsets put the final nail in the coffin for that argument.

I really doubt the S Tab will sell much anyway.
Smaller screen than the iPad, lower resolution, considerably worse battery life, for almost the same price....
Plus, given our experience with Samsung, it will probably not be upgraded to Gingerbread, which according to Google is the first version of Android actually meant for tablets.
Who in their right mind will buy the Tab?

What made me mad is they have more accessories slated for that thing than the very phones they already have out.
Docks, keyboards and all kinds of goodies. Oh yeah they all plug into the bottom of the Tab not the top like our retarded phones.

hurrpancakes said:
Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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Exactly!
Since it's functionally crippled compared to it's European counterpart I don't plan on carrying one around.
It's an interesting device, and will probably have a modicum of success, but the deliberate lockdown of an existing feature is one that makes me uninterested in it.
Given that it's carrier unsubsidized pricing internationally is likely going to make it more expensive than the iPad, if I were to develop an interest in an Android tablet/mid that didn't support phone functions, I'd just SPEND LESS MONEY on a comparable 7" tablet that doesn't have phone functions. There are several...

Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.

demo23019 said:
Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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I can make everything in an app support that higher res, and I font even consider myself a dev... More of a file mover.. But there are tutorials and some apps are already compatible...
Remember when donut and froyo came out not all apps were compatible.. Some apps dont work on donut now...
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.

DKYang said:
WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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Dude, you are drawn to these threads like a fly is to sh!t!
T-Mobile has its problems, but what about the rest of the companies carrying the Galaxy S? Have any released Froyo, or successful compass fixes?
No? Must be a worldwide carrier conspiracy to make Samsung look bad, by delaying fixes and OS upgrades.....
No, Samsung's track records with product support just sucks. That's why some are pissed.

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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?

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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Nice troll, since I don't believe you are actually as stupid as you're trying to get us to believe.
No, we're all pissed off about Samsung's crappy support. I bought a phone with a GPS built in. I can't use my GPS because it doesn't work.
A little fact which has been repeatedly explained to you. So either you choose to ignore it so you can troll more, or you have major issues with reading comprehension, take your pick.
And, as I said elsewhere, no one forced you to bring your fanboi self into this thread.

I'll hold out for MOTO or HTC
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That's great, let's organize a boycott of something that 99.9% of people have no plan to purchase in the first place. In other words, we're going to have to seek out people who want to buy the Tab and then dissuade them. Personally, I think I won't.

psshh, who is gonna buy that over sized phone anyway, too big for been a phone, too small for been a tablet

What you guys always wanted

Too bad its not from sprint
http://tinyurl.com/d7t5qzc
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Looks like the og galaxy s as a slider. I don't know for sure but that looks like a 4 inch screen, and for me that's too small. Even my photons screen feels small at 4.3 inches.
Oh how I miss my physical keyboard on my epic
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It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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Nice catch
And I wouldn't mind an epic with a 720p display
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heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter

austin420 said:
heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.

i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.

@austin
That phone is pretty sexy though imo. To bad it's motorola, but it's probably the photon Q.
To OP the button on the bottom seems tacky to me, I love our lit up one. And the keyboard is so spacy, ;/
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Milkman00 said:
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out.
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I disagree with you there.
I will freely admit that the delay on FroYo was terrible and ridiculous, when FroYo was rolling out the SGSII still wasn't released, and they had already promised it to us. But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand. And the whole complying with what Sprint wanted. I blame them. Sprint that is. So I don't think you can rag on Samsung for that one.
And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy. Especially with the speed they already have. He's doing his best I'm sure. Poor little Samsung man.
PLUS. More room for developers to step in and make the ****ty software they're stuck with better. Case and point: Epic 4G. And without the delays I wouldn't know what I know.

Milkman00 said:
Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.
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Samsung Equals Better Updates not this phone but in General
HTC equals updates daily and all of which are ****tier and annoying I rather wait for an update and be successful again not this phone but Samsung in General.
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If it's a slider, I would consider it if the rest of the hardware is up to par once it's released (and Sprint LTE is out & delivers). Motos are very locked down, have non-removable batteries, have worse screen res and are easy to brick during root/flash process if it goes wrong. Definitely prefer Samsung here, but with no sliders on the horizon this phone warrants some consideration. On the plus side, Moto phone batteries tend to have more up-front Mah, radios are generally better and somehow the fastboot files always seem to leak and devs are able to make root stick. Moto is also very slow to update its phones but wife's Droid 2, released later than Epic got its GB update 3 months before we did and also had good dev support in forms of CM9 and AOKP.

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i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.
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I agree motorola is very locked down, in the photon forums people who underwent the official motorola soak update test they got permanently locked in a new way. I am unlocked fortunately and there is a good dev community so I am happy with my photon. I hope it is an improved qHD display because mine is definitely not on par with the epic's screen. I really hope they put the S4 processor in it because that would be nice. This is probably the rumored photon q, q most likely standing for qwerty. Also makes alot of sense why the epic just went EOL. We also have a very similar utility like odin its called sbf.
When my upgrade comes in december I am all over this.
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Samsung Equals Better Updates
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But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand.
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Why??? The hardware could handle it, and the phone wasn't EOL. Getting software updates on phones that aren't EOL should be a no brainer. I shouldn't have to upgrade my hardware just to get new software, UNLESS the hardware can't handle the new software. These aren't FREE phones. We pay quite a bit of money for these phones. Getting some major software releases should be part of the deal.
I think the EOL thing is semantics anyway TBH. The software always lists the minimum requirements in order to run it adequately on hardware, if the hardware can support it, these manufacturers need to be supporting their customers AFTER the sale, and not just for 6 months after the sale.
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And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy.
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This is not my problem. I should not be two levels of software behind, because they are greedy and don't want to hire the correct number of people to maintain their hardware. Why should I be happy with wayyyyyyyyyyyy subpar customer service??? It is sad what society considers "acceptable" from companies these days (customer service out of India is the first thing that comes to mind).
I am not looking for new versions of software the day that Google releases them, but if they can run on our hardware, I expect them in relatively short order.
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I have been burned by Samsung TWO OUT OF TWO times now. Once on our Epic, and the other on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 which is STILL running Honeycomb. My complaints about Samsung stem further than just our phone.

The only reason why the Epic wasn't on the EOL list, was because it was the only high-end qwerty phone. Since Moto is making a high-end qwerty phone with ICs for sprint the Epic can r.i.p.
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Psh no they still keep this phone
It'll still be the best QWERTY slider for a while
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Let's keep the new phone discussions in the new phone thread.
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AT&T Official Lumia 920/820 Announcement

Here's the press release:
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=23417&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=35477&mapcode=consumer|mobile-devices
What I found interesting is that the cyan will be offered but not the gray! The cyan must be an AT&T exclusive. I guess the gray will not be offered here in the U.S. unless the rumored Verizon Lumia 922 gets offered with that color.
Cyan was my first color choice, and I'm glad to know I'll be able to get it. My wife wanted the gray so she'll have to pick another color (maybe the white?).

I'm pretty pumped about this also. I'll finally be switching over my last line (girlfriends) from Tmobile now. lol! I was thinking of grabbing her the 820 just because it's a little smaller for her hands and pretty much has the same features of the 820.
The only thing I'm wondering now is how they're going to handle folks that wasted an upgrade to get the Lumia 900. I'm going to raise some havoc with all the devices I've purchased in just a year of coming back to ATT.

the carrier logo is ugly, really ugly...

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the carrier logo is ugly, really ugly...
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I just noticed that. So much for the rumor that Nokia was going to prohibit carrier branding on the phones.

I don't get why Nokia and Microsoft thinks this is good for a brand new platform that's trying to attract people, I really don't....
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Dr.8820 said:
I don't get why Nokia and Microsoft thinks this is good for a brand new platform that's trying to attract people, I really don't....
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You mean, only releasing it on ATT? Or releasing a successor to the Lumia 900 so close to the release of the 920?
If it's the first, from what I understand is lack of carriers confidence in WP..which is understandable because in 2 yrs, it's barely made a dent in overall users. That's the main reason I think they need to offer some kind of upgrade for existing users to get WP8 moving and continue an aggressive marketing strategy.

well that's it windows 8 dead out of the gate. Why do exclusivity again when that didn't help them much last time? That's the phone most ppl wanted if they were going to go to windows 8.

kwill said:
You mean, only releasing it on ATT? Or releasing a successor to the Lumia 900 so close to the release of the 920?
If it's the first, from what I understand is lack of carriers confidence in WP..which is understandable because in 2 yrs, it's barely made a dent in overall users. That's the main reason I think they need to offer some kind of upgrade for existing users to get WP8 moving and continue an aggressive marketing strategy.
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I'm talking about carrier exclusive nonsense. I read somewhere earlier that the L900 sold 600K, which didn't mean Nokia or Microsoft didn't make a good product, it meant people weren't switching carriers to get it...when will they learn...
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Well since I know I can't get the Nokia 920 I looked at the other phones and noticed they probably won't even have LTE...WTF. I won't even be going windows 8 now.

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I just noticed that. So much for the rumor that Nokia was going to prohibit carrier branding on the phones.
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looks like I am gonna get the att model, than replace the glass with the one of the international version.
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Its not WP8 .. they are getting the HTC 8x. Its something to do with Nokia and ATT, that is, if Verzion doesn't get slightly modified 920/820
http://www.wpcentral.com/verizon-htc-8x-gets-glimpsed-official-video
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sorry but those HTC phones look like crap next to the Nokia which is what I wanted. Also the possibility of no LTE also makes it a no go.

go0gle said:
Its not WP8 .. they are getting the HTC 8x. Its something to do with Nokia and ATT, that is, if Verzion doesn't get slightly modified 920/820
http://www.wpcentral.com/verizon-htc-8x-gets-glimpsed-official-video
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The 8X...just a HD7 with a paint job and better screen....pass.
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Dr.8820 said:
I'm talking about carrier exclusive nonsense. I read somewhere earlier that the L900 sold 600K, which didn't mean Nokia or Microsoft didn't make a good product, it meant people weren't switching carriers to get it...when will they learn...
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Yeah, the carrier exclusivity does suck as the Lumia is kind of the only thing getting non WP users excited about coming to WP. And I stand corrected that it may be due to carrier as I also read an article saying that ATT HAD to be the exclusive carrier or else....so in a way it's still a carrier thing as I'm sure Nokia would like to dump this bad boy on EVERY carrier with the position their in.

Dr.8820 said:
The 8X...just a HD7 with a paint job and better screen
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You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Looks like we may actually be seeing a Nov. 4th launch!!
http://www.wpcentral.com/confirmed-att-launching-nokia-lumia-920-november-4th

Arstechnica says the Moto X is the best overall Android phone of 2013

The State of Smartphones in 2013: Part I of the new Ars Ultimate Guide | Ars Technica
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I have to admit up until the soak test announcement I've been skeptical. But now I can let myself get giddy with the hype. Best purchase decision I made of 2013, without a doubt.
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rockstarr001 said:
I have to admit up until the soak test announcement I've been skeptical. But now I can let myself get giddy with the hype. Best purchase decision I made of 2013, without a doubt.
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Agreed. In 2013 alone, I've owned a Motorola Razr HD, iPhone 5, 2 Nexus 4's, 2 Z10's, S4, Note 2, HTC One, Lumia 920, and now my Moto X. By far, my favourite phone and I would gladly pay full price at store again for this phone.
Edit: In fact, I would trade any of the above phones for a Moto X. This phone is.. just fantastic. Although I would be so happy to get an unlocked T-Mobile Moto X if I could.

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Agreed. In 2013 alone, I've owned a Motorola Razr HD, iPhone 5, 2 Nexus 4's, 2 Z10's, S4, Note 2, HTC One, Lumia 920, and now my Moto X. By far, my favourite phone and I would gladly pay full price at store again for this phone.
Edit: In fact, I would trade any of the above phones for a Moto X. This phone is.. just fantastic. Although I would be so happy to get an unlocked T-Mobile Moto X if I could.
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Though the dev community seems very slow for this phone ... (and I am coming from a "niche" phone: the SGS2 Skyrocket)

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Though the dev community seems very slow for this phone ... (and I am coming from a "niche" phone: the SGS2 Skyrocket)
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Having owned the Razr HD, which had a some development, I feel honestly as if the lack of development is due to the lack of need. The Razr HD needed some SERIOUS overhaul. The Moto features embedded in the rom were just awful. The Moto X is so much cleaner and much closer to the Nexus experience, allowing any additional features to be added via 3rd party apps, the way Nexus owners do it. This promotes a lack of anything to complain about. Need a feature? It's on the play store. Anything that requires kernel support/hardware support is the only thing Moto did for us, and it shows how great their engineers are when they work on stuff they actually want to do, rather than stuff "market analysis" says that their phone needs to do.
Edit: And this means a lot to me, as I'm a rabid rom flasher, but this is now the only device where I've left it stock and unrooted.

ShensMobile said:
Having owned the Razr HD, which had a some development, I feel honestly as if the lack of development is due to the lack of need. The Razr HD needed some SERIOUS overhaul. The Moto features embedded in the rom were just awful. The Moto X is so much cleaner and much closer to the Nexus experience, allowing any additional features to be added via 3rd party apps, the way Nexus owners do it. This promotes a lack of anything to complain about. Need a feature? It's on the play store. Anything that requires kernel support/hardware support is the only thing Moto did for us, and it shows how great their engineers are when they work on stuff they actually want to do, rather than stuff "market analysis" says that their phone needs to do.
Edit: And this means a lot to me, as I'm a rabid rom flasher, but this is now the only device where I've left it stock and unrooted.
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Plus, you can customize almost anything via Xposed.

andTab said:
Though the dev community seems very slow for this phone ... (and I am coming from a "niche" phone: the SGS2 Skyrocket)
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I wouldn't say the Skyrocket was a particularly "niche" phone. We had a huge developer base. The Moto X is admittedly slower, but this is the one phone that doesn't really need all that much development.

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I wouldn't say the Skyrocket was a particularly "niche" phone. We had a huge developer base. The Moto X is admittedly slower, but this is the one phone that doesn't really need all that much development.
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Still is development going on there. Skyrocket is my backup phone when between buying and selling phones. And I am busy flashing when I use it
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yes. i love my moto x

ShensMobile said:
Having owned the Razr HD, which had a some development, I feel honestly as if the lack of development is due to the lack of need. The Razr HD needed some SERIOUS overhaul. The Moto features embedded in the rom were just awful. The Moto X is so much cleaner and much closer to the Nexus experience, allowing any additional features to be added via 3rd party apps, the way Nexus owners do it. This promotes a lack of anything to complain about. Need a feature? It's on the play store. Anything that requires kernel support/hardware support is the only thing Moto did for us, and it shows how great their engineers are when they work on stuff they actually want to do, rather than stuff "market analysis" says that their phone needs to do.
Edit: And this means a lot to me, as I'm a rabid rom flasher, but this is now the only device where I've left it stock and unrooted.
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I'm in the same boat...
After being a chronic ROM flasher and Spec chaser... I have left my Moto X stock and don't have any plans to change that.
It is a superb device.

I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and can upgrade to the Moto X for free through Amazon. Would you guys recommend it?

Definitely.
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big_mike_2k6 said:
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and can upgrade to the Moto X for free through Amazon. Would you guys recommend it?
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YES

big_mike_2k6 said:
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and can upgrade to the Moto X for free through Amazon. Would you guys recommend it?
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Yes. I had a Galaxy Nexus. The Moto X is in another league.

That's all I need to hear. Going to place my order now and I'll be all set come Thursday. Thank you!

big_mike_2k6 said:
That's all I need to hear. Going to place my order now and I'll be all set come Thursday. Thank you!
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You'll love it.

I've been looking at picking up one off of Ebay for ~$300. Think it's worth it?