Ok, my wife got an NC and at first she loved it, then the more she started messing around with it, the more she noticed it would freeze occasionally here and there. I suggested going the custom rom route and overclocking, but before I started the process wanted to make sure a couple of things.
1. After reading it seems like if you want to run a custom rom, it MUST be run from the sd card? Is this correct? Or is it possible to run it from the emmc?
2. After installing custom roms, will she still be able to access her library? Can she re-download the stuff she had previously? I'm not sure how all this works yet tbh, lol... (I would assume yes, but we all know what assuming does )
3. I saw something where people were install the custom rom to the sd, but still running the stock on the emmc, why?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
-Erik
burritoboy9984 said:
Ok, my wife got an NC and at first she loved it, then the more she started messing around with it, the more she noticed it would freeze occasionally here and there. I suggested going the custom rom route and overclocking, but before I started the process wanted to make sure a couple of things.
1. After reading it seems like if you want to run a custom rom, it MUST be run from the sd card? Is this correct? Or is it possible to run it from the emmc?
2. After installing custom roms, will she still be able to access her library? Can she re-download the stuff she had previously? I'm not sure how all this works yet tbh, lol... (I would assume yes, but we all know what assuming does )
3. I saw something where people were install the custom rom to the sd, but still running the stock on the emmc, why?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
-Erik
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1. False, I would reccomend running from the eemc if you won't miss the stock ui
2. I do not know as after I opened up my nook I installed cm7 to my eemc hopefully someone else can help you here
3. Eh, some people like the stock reading experience I guess. You could run stock from a SD card if you still want to keep it around.
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burritoboy9984 said:
Ok, my wife got an NC and at first she loved it, then the more she started messing around with it, the more she noticed it would freeze occasionally here and there. I suggested going the custom rom route and overclocking, but before I started the process wanted to make sure a couple of things.
1. After reading it seems like if you want to run a custom rom, it MUST be run from the sd card? Is this correct? Or is it possible to run it from the emmc?
2. After installing custom roms, will she still be able to access her library? Can she re-download the stuff she had previously? I'm not sure how all this works yet tbh, lol... (I would assume yes, but we all know what assuming does )
3. I saw something where people were install the custom rom to the sd, but still running the stock on the emmc, why?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
-Erik
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1.It's not necessary to run it in the emmc, but it is RECOMMENDED provided that you're willing to lose the STOCK ROM.
2.She can't access her library IF the custom ROM has been installed in the emmc, but if it was installed in the sd, she can. What she'll need to do is just boot the nook without the SD in it.
3.Yup. It's because theywant to retain being able to use the regular stock ROM, which of course has access to B&N's market for books and apps. But now, it's possible to install the stock ROM in the sd.
Ok, so if she wants access to her library she has to use the stock rom PERIOD, right? Any tips on making the stock rom freeze up less? Is it safe just rooting and overclocking the stock rom?
-Erik
burritoboy9984 said:
Ok, so if she wants access to her library she has to use the stock rom PERIOD, right? Any tips on making the stock rom freeze up less? Is it safe just rooting and overclocking the stock rom?
-Erik
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YES. If the library's a MUST for her, then you can just root the stock rom (so you can install market apps) and flash dalingrin's kernel to overclock it (which would significantly speed up the nook and lessen freezes).
I am running CM7 from emmc and have access to all my Barnes and Noble books through the Nook app from market, if that is what you mean. There are a few children's books that may not work with the Nook app and I am given to understand some magazine subscriptions might be unavailable but it is not a problem for me.
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All yours questions have been answered by others so I just chip in my experience.
1. If you run CM7 off uSD card, using Nook App will be much better.
2. If you run CM7 from eMMC and want to use Nook App, you MUST have an external uSD card plugged in anyway. W/o the card, it won't work properly.
3. Even with the Nook app running, I believe you will lose some features that stock Froyo offered such audio book?
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YES. If the library's a MUST for her, then you can just root the stock rom (so you can install market apps) and flash dalingrin's kernel to overclock it (which would significantly speed up the nook and lessen freezes).
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That is not correct. If her library is of the books that she has downloaded from B&N that library is always available. When she signs in with the Nook Android app the library will sync and she can re-download any book she previously purchased from B&N.
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Hello everyone. I am a novice to rooting and sideloading and ROM loading and etc., etc., etc. While my Nook color was rooted a few moments after I received it and CWR flashed to 1.1 update later, I am in no way shape or form proficient in any of this and have some basic questions I'm hoping can be answered.
I basically want to go to the B&N 1.2 upgrade (clean, fresh, stock, unmolested, CWR removed, etc.) and be able to "dual boot" via SD card to CM7 when I want to use it as a tablet, while keeping all of my current apps and downloads. Currently I'm on a rooted 1.1 ROM flashed via CWM from auto-nooter 1.0.1. Is this possible?
There is a thread in the Android dev section that has 2 zip files attached, basically stating that to do the "revert to clean" upgrade I flash load the zip file, wipe the two directories via CWR, reboot and poof, CWR is gone and 1.2 is fresh and clean, but I'm unsure if this allows me to retain my apps and downloads. Am I correct in my understanding? If not, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Similar but more basic question
Semi-noob with same question as above, except that I didn't install CWM/CWR, like many others I just rooted a Nook Color 1.1 with Autonooter 3, and use Zeam for 50-odd apps along with Stock 1.1 for reading (and wifistatic for my fixed IP). I have all the apps and data backed up with Titanium to a card.
I plan on just shutting off Wifi until:
1. It is clear whether 1.2 will or won't try to autoload with this simple configuration, and what happens if it tries to do so.
2. Autonooter 4 is issued.
3. There are simple instructions for upgrading to 1.2, rerooting it with Autonooter 4, and restoring apps from Titanium. [Please?] The info in the other thread, so far, is too varied and complicated for those of us who appreciate all your hard work but really don't understand it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050164
Thank you!
I too have the Nook (1.1) rooted using Autonooter. Copying the 1.2 B&N file to the nook does nothing. The file disappears after sometime, How does one even upgrade in this case? Thanks.
Tog
I followed the instructions here to restore to stock 1.1 then sideload 1.2. It worked flawlessly.
sangahm said:
I followed the instructions here to restore to stock 1.1 then sideload 1.2. It worked flawlessly.
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I used the method listed in this link and it worked perfectly -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931720
Now to look into a bootable CM7 via SD. I kinda want my old functions back, just don't want a molested nook anymore.
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I used the method listed in this link and it worked perfectly -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931720
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Yes same procedures however your link provides a more basic, easy to follow set of instructions especially for the newbie.
Just make sure you use the correct firmware that came with the nook, either 1.01, or 1.1.
behic said:
Now to look into a bootable CM7 via SD. I kinda want my old functions back, just don't want a molested nook anymore.
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If you find another easy link for this (CM7 on SD) please post, as that's what I'm looking for also.
this may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Potential fix for Angry Bird install after manual neuter
A lot of people are saying that you can't install angry birds with the SD card installed. This sounds like the problem that I had with my Droid X. To fix it I had to delete the file left from the prior install under .android secure on the SD card. I guess that Froyo sometimes has issues with this file getting corrupt on the micro SD and then it can't install correctly during updates and reinstalls. I think you lose all previous data but at least you have it working normally now with the SD card installed. I'll try it on my nook and post back. I would have put this in the manual nooter thread but I don't have enough posts to post there.
Any word on when Autonooter 4 will be out? Can't find any info about that...
Thanks,
Doug
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Any word on when Autonooter 4 will be out? Can't find any info about that...
Thanks,
Doug
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If you look at the manual nooter thread, they're working out a few issues. It's about 95% there, id say, but until the experience is 100% I doubt you'll see an autonooter 4.0.
Is it possible to update the u-boot to 1.2 without having to reflash the whole
ROM? I'm happy with the way everything is on my 12 hour old Nook....
Phiremod v6.2 installed without a hitch and I just want to try out some kernels....
I have my nook rooted with Manual Nooter for 1.2. I saw a video of a Nook rooted to run Gingerbread. I know I'll lose all BN stock files if I do the Gingerbread OS. I don't care, as long as 1) I don't brick my nook and 2) I can still use it as an ereader. The GIngerbread nook looked much more like the piece of equipment I want to own.
Questions:
1) I see things about Nightlies and I don't know what those are....is it automatic or something I have to do?
2) Are there drawbacks to doing Gingerbread instead? And where do I find files and directions on how to root it to run Ginger?
3) Can I ever return my nook to stock if I go Ginger?
4) Do apps like Netflix and HBOGo run on Gingerbread? Does the market work better?
Any and all info on this would be great.
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I have my nook rooted with Manual Nooter for 1.2. I saw a video of a Nook rooted to run Gingerbread. I know I'll lose all BN stock files if I do the Gingerbread OS. I don't care, as long as 1) I don't brick my nook and 2) I can still use it as an ereader. The GIngerbread nook looked much more like the piece of equipment I want to own.
Questions:
I see things about Nightlies and I don't know what those are....is it automatic or something I have to do?
Are there drawbacks to doing Gingerbread instead? And where do I find files and directions on how to root it to run Ginger?
Can I ever return my nook to stock if I go Ginger?
Any and all info on this would be great.
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Nightlies are released nearly every day. They are ROMS that are constantly being updated and worked on, so they have many features that the stable CM ROM may not have.
There are no drawbacks to using Gingerbread over Froyo. Battery, performance, and other things were fixed in the update. And best of all, you lose nothing from it. It's only improvement. As for the files, I've only done the initial setup once, so a more experienced member should explain how to do so.
Just flash clockworkmod to an SD card using a program called windiskimager32 (or something like that), and download the latest nightly ROM of cyanogenmod (It's the gingerbread ROM you're talking about.) and drag it to the root of the flashed sd card. When you the card in the nook it will take you to a special recovery menu. Someone else will have to give further instructions, but it is fairly simple.
I believe you can return to stock, or just run Gingerbread from a SD card and leave the stock there, but I feel that running from eMMC is more stable.
And, there is no risk of bricking, since nook runs from an SD before it boots, so you could always flash another time.
In your case, OP, I would strongly suggest you booting CM7 off the uSD but first, get the Sandisk class 2 or class 4 uSD card (4GB or 8GB or 16GB will be fine)
Why would you suggest running off SD?
So basically, I use CWM to install an update? Are they required? Or just recommended?
If you're really looking at running CM7, and new to everything, running off SD card is the easiest way to get things running, while being the least complicated. That way you have something up and running while you become more familiar with the choices out there.
You don't have to update with every nightly (though lots of people update frequently). I typically run the stables, or at least the RC, as I use this occasionally for work and need something reliable.
Best thing you can do is read, read, and read some more. If you want to get hands on experience, run off SD until you are comfortable with the ins and outs of the NC.
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If you're really looking at running CM7, and new to everything, running off SD card is the easiest way to get things running, while being the least complicated. That way you have something up and running while you become more familiar with the choices out there.
You don't have to update with every nightly (though lots of people update frequently). I typically run the stables, or at least the RC, as I use this occasionally for work and need something reliable.
Best thing you can do is read, read, and read some more. If you want to get hands on experience, run off SD until you are comfortable with the ins and outs of the NC.
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Actually running from an SD card is more complex. The only benefit being that you don't have to wipe the stock rom from emmc.
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Well, I went ahead and did it! And sucessfully, I think. I am having trouble with Netflix and Hbogo (but I knew I'd have trouble with hbo). Otherwise, I am liking it!
Thanks!!
kristiemarie said:
Well, I went ahead and did it! And sucessfully, I think. I am having trouble with Netflix and Hbogo (but I knew I'd have trouble with hbo). Otherwise, I am liking it!
Thanks!!
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I can't help you with HBO, but as for Netflix, as long as you're using the latest version it'll run on the Nook without modification. Older versions require you to modify the build.prop file... there's plenty of info around on how to do that, just google something like "netflix build.prop".
If Netflix is playing audio in fast forward... that means you need to change the build.prop.
So, I installed cm7 on an sd card, and it works fine. However, when I go to the market there are some apps that aren't showing. I used the latest nightly build of encore, and I'm curious if I should downgrade to the latest stable version to view all the apps. It was my understanding that by using Encore 7.1 or higher, all apps would be visible and I wouldn't have to change the build.properties file. Any help would be appreciated!!!
Hmmm, Market incompatibility was huge but has been resolved for long time ago, I'm surprise that it is resurfacing again.
Anyway, what is the version of your ROM, what is the version of the Market?
Market is...
Market version is 3.4.4 and not sure how to get the version for the rom, this is the one that i used cm_encore_full-253.zip. Thanks for the help, the nook itself is rooted as well, using autonooter, but I did that a while ago. Not sure what version of android it's using.
What apps are missing? Just a few, a specific one or two, or most?
Some apps (e.g. Blockbuster, Google Currents) don't show up at all on my rooted NC or NT, but show on my phone. This is deliberate on their part, and I believe would require a lot of build.prop finagling to overcome.
Other Market problems in the past have been related to screen density, and various workarounds (clearing market app cache, etc.) were required. Those problems should largely be resolved with CM 7.1 n253.
Missing apps
Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything? If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything?
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You might try some of the build.prop tweaks that are floating around. I'm new to them myself, but they seem to be key when you have certain "hidden" apps like this that only show up on certain devices.
If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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Running CM7, either on SD or internal emmc is not hard, but it can be confusing. Just make sure you've determined what exactly it is you want to do.
HeelzFan said:
Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything? If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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It is not hard at all. Just make a titanium backup and then flash CM7 using the guide in my sig.
If you want to update stock then I am pretty sure you need to wipe everything to update. Again make a titanium backup and then restore it after the upgrade and you will be fine.
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HeelzFan said:
Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything? If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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I just realized I've had a memory lapse. If you've got the app working on another device, try downloading Android Assistant (AA) and making a backup. Then copy the apk that AA makes over to your Nook and try installing it.
I just did this to copy Google Currents to my rooted B&N 1.4.1 install that didn't show it in the Market.
bobstro said:
I just realized I've had a memory lapse. If you've got the app working on another device, try downloading Android Assistant (AA) and making a backup. Then copy the apk that AA makes over to your Nook and try installing it.
I just did this to copy Google Currents to my rooted B&N 1.4.1 install that didn't show it in the Market.
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I sent Google Currents from my Xoom to my girl's NC by Bluetooth. Worked great.
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I sent Google Currents from my Xoom to my girl's NC by Bluetooth. Worked great.
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Her rooted NC running cm7.2.
hey, I am new to the tablet world, I tried to search for this and look in the recent post and didnt really find the answer I was looking for....
So if I buy a new or refurbished Nook Color right now from B&N... will I be able to root it?!
this article is old... so I am not sure if this is the case?
any advice Please
WARNING - READ THIS FIRST: Barnes and Noble has introduced a new hardware revision which bricks your unit if you install their official 1.0.0 Firmware (A step needed to root). As of right now, Nooks with serial #s starting with 1003 (running firmware 1.5) cannot be rooted, and should NOT be attempted. See nookdevs New_Hardware_Revision for more details before you think of trying this!
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from:
nooktalk.net/news/time-to-hack-root-your-nook
THANKS!
cant post the regular link yet
Just buy from eBay or Craigslist you'll find it cheaper n rootable
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Well, where is the difference if I buy it new from eBay?! How is it more or less rootable...? If it is new it is new No matter where it comes from or?!
and 135$ for refurbished didn't seem bad... Or?!
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First.... those may be Nooks and NOT Nook Colors... The newest firmware for Nook Color or Nook Tablets is 1.4.1 and you reference FW ver 1.5.
Also, I don't know of any NC's or NT's with serial numbers below 2000 first 4 digits.
Additionally, with the newer rooting tools available, you don't need to install anything prior to 1.4.1 to root them.
alexwick said:
[...] From:
nooktalk.net/news/time-to-hack-root-your-nook
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At the very top of that article, it states:
Last Updated on Wednesday, 29 December 2010 12:54
You might find reading more recent articles a bit more revealing. A few things have happened since 2010.
I am aware the article is old... So short answer...
A new bought nook can be rooted?!?
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Short answer, yes.
My base FW is 1.0.0. I'm running the 20120217 build of Mirage-Kang from eMMC.
I can't imagine how it could get much more rooted than this unless it would be to follow the directions to root it to the letter but if I did that then I wouldn't be much of an Asshole and I am a journeyman Asshole so there you have it.
Oh, and I don't feel terribly compelled to take it out of the case to look at the serial.
MISRy said:
Short answer, yes.
My base FW is 1.0.0. I'm running the 20120217 build of Mirage-Kang from eMMC.
I can't imagine how it could get much more rooted than this unless it would be to follow the directions to root it to the letter but if I did that then I wouldn't be much of an Asshole and I am a journeyman Asshole so there you have it.
Oh, and I don't feel terribly compelled to take it out of the case to look at the serial.
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But do you have a Nook... or a Nook Color?
I mean yeah the Nook is rootable... but I didn't know a Mirage Kang was done for it.
Just ordered a refurbished nook color for 135$ hope will get it rooted fine... Which is the best thread for noobs here to get it rooted?!
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alexwick said:
Just ordered a refurbished nook color for 135$ hope will get it rooted fine...
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Since there is a manual nooter for the 1.4, there's no problem rooting it.
Which is the best thread for noobs here to get it rooted?!
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Which rooting do you wish to do? If you want to run the stock B&N apps side by side with apps downloaded from the B&N market, then first register the refurbished system with B&N, then go to NC developer forum and look in "[NC][1.4.1] ManualNooter 5.02.19". That's a couple of minor version steps past the one I used, but it looked like its got it all pulled together from the three different sources of info I used last month.
I wanted to keep Nook Comics support in the stock ereader, so I opted for the manual nooter.
If you want to do a CM7/CM9/MIUI root, which installs alternate firmware for the system instead of modifying the existing firmware to allow Android market apps ... well then, I dunno, as after experimenting with a CM7 sd sidecard, I opted for the manual nooter approach. I'd look in the developer forum for the most recent thread with detailed install instructions for the firmware I wanted to install.
Pretty off topic, but this helped me when I needed to exchange a nook color that I had lost the box for. If you need your serial number, it is inside the flap that covers the micro SD slot.
There are other ways to find it, but if you are on the phone with support and a rooted nook, this is a useful thing.
I also just bought a refurb Nook Color. It is running 1.3.0 out of the box. I want to root it then install CM7. However I can't find any clear posts on how to. Either they are all for earlier FW or 1.4. Should I update to 1.4 before Nootering? If so which MNooter should I use? Or is it recommended to just Nooter 1.3? Again which Mnooter should I use for 1.3?
Thanks
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Since there is a manual nooter for the 1.4, there's no problem rooting it.
Which rooting do you wish to do? If you want to run the stock B&N apps side by side with apps downloaded from the B&N market, then first register the refurbished system with B&N, then go to NC developer forum and look in "[NC][1.4.1] ManualNooter 5.02.19". That's a couple of minor version steps past the one I used, but it looked like its got it all pulled together from the three different sources of info I used last month.
I wanted to keep Nook Comics support in the stock ereader, so I opted for the manual nooter.
If you want to do a CM7/CM9/MIUI root, which installs alternate firmware for the system instead of modifying the existing firmware to allow Android market apps ... well then, I dunno, as after experimenting with a CM7 sd sidecard, I opted for the manual nooter approach. I'd look in the developer forum for the most recent thread with detailed install instructions for the firmware I wanted to install.
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Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
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I also just bought a refurb Nook Color. It is running 1.3.0 out of the box. I want to root it then install CM7. However I can't find any clear posts on how to. Either they are all for earlier FW or 1.4. Should I update to 1.4 before Nootering? If so which MNooter should I use? Or is it recommended to just Nooter 1.3? Again which Mnooter should I use for 1.3?
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You do not need to root the B&N firmware before loading CM7. You do need to decide whether you want to run CM7 on internal eMMC or external SD. If you plan to install CM7 to eMMC, you will over-write the B&N firmware, so rooting it is pointless. Once you've decided that, we can point you in the right direction.
There are also guides here on rooting B&N firmware that you can locate with a bit of searching.
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alexwick said:
Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
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Yes, you can.
alexwick said:
Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
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Yes, as I said, that's the setup I was using when I decided I prefer a manual nooter. Among your choices, you can:
(1) Replace the stock firmware with an alternative, such as CM7
(2) Run CM7 off a booting SD card and run stock B&N from internal memory
(3) Root the stock B&N system and then load and run Android market apps alongside the B&N built-in and B&N store apps.
I wanted to keep the features of the 1.4.1 ereader, including Nook Comics support, so for me (1) was out, and I only needed a few apps from the Android Store, so I finally settled on (3) to avoid having to boot back and forth between the two systems. But first I did (2) to try things out and get an idea of whether I wanted to root the B&N firmware or replace it with something like CM7.
Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
Yes, as I said, that's the setup I was using when I decided I prefer a manual nooter. Among your choices, you can:
(1) Replace the stock firmware with an alternative, such as CM7
(2) Run CM7 off a booting SD card and run stock B&N from internal memory
(3) Root the stock B&N system and then load and run Android market apps alongside the B&N built-in and B&N store apps.
I wanted to keep the features of the 1.4.1 ereader, including Nook Comics support, so for me (1) was out, and I only needed a few apps from the Android Store, so I finally settled on (3) to avoid having to boot back and forth between the two systems. But first I did (2) to try things out and get an idea of whether I wanted to root the B&N firmware or replace it with something like CM7.
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It think I wanna go for option 2&3, can I not root the B&N internal system and also run CM 7 from SD card?
Do I have to take the SD card in and out depending in which one i wanna boot!?
Also another question... The whole reason this rooting is done if I understand correctly is to have access to all the systems in the NC, where do I get the Apps from ? Do I still have to get them through the market? Or can I download them somewhere!?
Got a question... Git my nook today, and it seems to be lagging quite a bit sometimes... Is that normal? Sometimes tottaly unresponsive... Is this normal?!
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alexwick said:
It think I wanna go for option 2&3, can I not root the B&N internal system and also run CM 7 from SD card?
Do I have to take the SD card in and out depending in which one i wanna boot!?
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Taking the SD card in and out depending on which one I wanted to boot, then full power off and power on was the way I did it. Don't know if there's a better way, but never saw a better way mentioned.
You can indeed run CM7 from an SD card and root the B&N internal system. That would allow you to use Nook Tweaks in the CM7 side to, for example, run a keyboard off the USB port and overclock the chip ~ neither of which you can do with the stock kernel ~ and still have the use of the 1.4.1 ereader for Nook Comics or media-enhanced ebooks.
Get a main microSD card for the CM7 SD card install. Follow the CM7 SD card instructions to do the CM7 SD card install on the big card.
And then get another microSD card (2GB Class 4 is plenty) and follow the 1.4.1 manual nooter instructions to root the stock B&N kernel.
Also another question... The whole reason this rooting is done if I understand correctly is to have access to all the systems in the NC, where do I get the Apps from ? Do I still have to get them through the market? Or can I download them somewhere!?
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If you follow the CM7 SD card install directions, you will have access to the full Android Market on that install. Same thing if you follow the 1.4.1 manual nooter instructions ~ you will have access to the Android Market via the Nook Color Application Manager, and if you want can put the Android Market on the B&N Home Screen.
Its best to have a gmail.com account already, for the Android market registration, so sign up for one of those before starting the process if you don't already have one. And from the Android Market, you can also install the other markets (Amazon, 1mobile, GetJar) if you prefer one of those.
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Got a question... Git my nook today, and it seems to be lagging quite a bit sometimes... Is that normal? Sometimes tottaly unresponsive... Is this normal?!
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It can be laggy, especially if you have too much load on it. Sometimes I'm surprised at how many windows I have open in the stock browser. Turning it all the way off will shut down apps that you may have left unclosed, free up RAM, and its normally back to its normal self.
Mind, the gurus have Android apps that can be used to shut down individual apps, but the brute force approach seems to work for me.
thanks for the quick detailed reply...
for the LAGS, well I dont have hardly anything open... the only thing i installed and bought was from the market. Angry Birds... and it seems sometime it will not respond to the throwing of the bird, but just scale the screen... even to exit the game and after the game is closed it seems to not respond properly... having to tap a button 5 times until it responds... and than it works fine after a reboot... and than a couple hours later same thing in the game... ..
also it seems like internetpages like nick.com seem to load forever and are very laggy. I ahve a 10 MBIT Internet connectio over wifi, so that shouldnt be a problem....
To teh dual Systems...Do I also need a second 2GB card for the rooted internal stock system, or is that just for the installation of it!?
I actually do have a 16 GB and a 2 GB at home already...
"If you follow the CM7 SD card install directions, you will have access to the full Android Market on that install. Same thing if you follow the 1.4.1 manual nooter instructions ~ you will have access to the Android Market via the Nook Color Application Manager, and if you want can put the Android Market on the B&N Home Screen."
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Well on my android phone... most of the apps are available I believe for free on the forums... is this similar here... or do I have to buy them!? BTW My phone is not rooted...
The System is some 1.3 version I received... will I need to update to 1.4 first!?
I also do already have a gmail account... its a german one though [email protected] but that should be fine ... It is the german GMAIL
Also linked the nook to th BN Store I believe...Is tehre any waay to check?!
Should I not be able to stream netflix... with the regular nook!?
ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR TIME !!!!
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... also it seems like internetpages like nick.com seem to load forever and are very laggy. I ahve a 10 MBIT Internet connectio over wifi, so that shouldnt be a problem....
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That's just the stock Android Browser and an 800MHz single core system with 512Mb RAM plowing through a site with all the bells and whistles and targetted at a PC. Try the Dolphin HD browser (its in the B&N store, and its free so no worry about having to re-download it from the Android market to your CM7 install) ... it has an option to hold off flash content until you actually want to run it that can really speed up some sites.
To teh dual Systems...Do I also need a second 2GB card for the rooted internal stock system, or is that just for the installation of it!?
I actually do have a 16 GB and a 2 GB at home already...
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Installation ... you want a good sized card for the CM7 install, and reading and storing an image from a large card, then formatting it and writing the install card image, then saving the install card image, formatting, and restoring the CM7 install image is a royal pain.
Note that you probably want to keep the install card as a bootable recovery card. 1GB is enough to do the manual noot, but 2GB is enough to hold the recovery of the original stock B&N before you do the manual root. 4GB is even better, as it can hold a recovery of the stock B&N as well as a recovery of the system right after it is manually nooted, in case you do something later to get it messed up.
And you can get a 4GB Class 4 card for $5 with free shipping from Amazon ~ the new 32GB flash cards have pushed the price of the smaller ones way down ~ so to my mind that's worth it to be able to set aside a recovery card.
Well on my android phone... most of the apps are available I believe for free on the forums... is this similar here... or do I have to buy them!? BTW My phone is not rooted...
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Yes. There are paid apps, but both the CM7 install or the manual nooter give full access to a wide range of free apps on the main Android Market, and allow you to install 1mobile, GetJar, or Amazon if you prefer any of those markets.
The System is some 1.3 version I received... will I need to update to 1.4 first!?
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Not for the SD card install of CM7. Be sure to follow the instructions for making an SD card install on a 1.3 system.
You'll want to upgrade for a rooted stock B&N Kernel to 1.4.2, because its only 1.4 that has the updated ereader, Nook Color tailored Netflix app, likely B&N Store HuluPlus this Friday ... if you were replacing the stock Kernel, there's be no reason to update, and the installs for the 1.3 system are more mature ... but if you want to keep the B&N Kernel, upgrade to 1.4.2. before you lock it down from further OTA updates.
I also do already have a gmail account... its a german one though [email protected] but that should be fine ... It is the german GMAIL
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I'd don't know from personal experience, but I've seen some warnings about it being best to have a gmail.com account. Just to be safe, I'd sign up for a gmail.com account and give your primary gmail account as the email account used to confirm that you are a real person. Save it in an "Accounts" folder in your main gmail if you are unlikely to use it for anything except the Android market.
Also linked the nook to th BN Store I believe...Is tehre any waay to check?!
Should I not be able to stream netflix... with the regular nook!?
ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR TIME !!!!
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Before you start working on the unit, go to the store (its on the navbar) search for apps and download a free app. Dolphin HD is a good one. If it downloads and installs, you are linked to the B&N store.
I was thinking of making a custom rooting script for CWM (probably wouldn't release it), and I mostly want it to have a very small footprint and still have it feel like an unmodified Nook. I've mostly been using CM7 from an SD and haven't dealt with the stock OS much, but lately I've been using it more and I just like the way it's set up for some reason. I rooted it last night, but quickly reverted back after finding most apps 'weren't compatible with my Nook,' surprisingly including Nook Tweaks (I'll admit I was in a bit of a rush and wanted to get back to reading my book, otherwise I probably would have experimented more ). I also found that the apps installed with the root didn't show up in the stock launcher, and I'm not sure if that can be changed, or if it's already like that and I just needed to install an app from the Play Store and it would show up. Oh, and is there a manual root tutorial for 1.4.2 I can base my script on? Otherwise I'm just going to pull some stuff from my script for the Nook Simple Touch and ManualNooter.
You can add non-B&N apps to the B&N home screen using Nook Color App Manager. ManualNooter is pretty lightweight, and would be a good starting point for rooting the NC. I ran B&N 1.4.2 for months using it, and it worked very much as you describe.
Thanks! Only one problem, the Play store won't let me install it for some reason just like Nook Tweaks... How would I fix that?
Edit: And magically, it works now and I can install anything. Huh.