im hearing lot of ppl asking to get rid of debuging from roms, also few say that some rom is not final because it has debuging in it. what does that mean.
i dont see any special debuging in any rom, if they are talking about the debug apk thats present in every rom even the official froyo one. or am i missing something?
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im hearing lot of ppl asking to get rid of debuging from roms, also few say that some rom is not final because it has debuging in it. what does that mean.
i dont see any special debuging in any rom, if they are talking about the debug apk thats present in every rom even the official froyo one. or am i missing something?
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links to your inquired post.
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links to your inquired post.
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Huh, that means what? Not getting you.
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Huh, that means what? Not getting you.
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He's asking you to provide a link to one of these threads you mentioned in the OP. So he can read it and maybe explain it to you.
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im hearing lot of ppl asking to get rid of debuging from roms, also few say that some rom is not final because it has debuging in it. what does that mean.
i dont see any special debuging in any rom, if they are talking about the debug apk thats present in every rom even the official froyo one. or am i missing something?
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Debugging is not something you'll want to have or be bothered with, in many ROMs, mostly leaked ones...They still have debugging enabled, which is normally just for the testing phase of the ROM, and can also tell DEVs that it's not the final version of the Build. Debugging roms aren't complete and are actually slower in speed, compare Gingerbread mySense 2.3 w/ and w/o and you may or not notice the difference. On a regular sense 3.0 build, you'll see the difference and even on 2.1 sense too. Debugging is always absent from a Final build of said ROM, since that junk is only needed for testing and diagnostics and what not. Hope this post helps you OP.
ok got it but how do you know its there, i mean when somone asks devs to remove debugging what does hat mean is it some apk or what?
im asking cause the orignal 2.2 and 2.2.1 ruu zips here in the forum have debug.apk present, so that cant be the debuging we are talking about right?
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ok got it but how do you know its there, i mean when somone asks devs to remove debugging what does hat mean is it some apk or what?
im asking cause the orignal 2.2 and 2.2.1 ruu zips here in the forum have debug.apk present, so that cant be the debuging we are talking about right?
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Thats in many sense rooms or mysense, but quadrant scores are very low when debug is on. You can safely remove the debug.apk with no worries,i normally take it out. Leaked roms are there main holders of full out debugging, since they aren't done yet. You can ask devs to remove it, and that will yield speed improvements. You can compare a mytouch with a leaked 2.1 sense vs a inc2,desire hd, or any of its brother devices. And the one with stock 2.1 would have higher benchmarks. Higher doesn't always mean faster daily performance. In my experience the cpu stays higher speeds on debug builds. And forgot to say removing that one file doesn't remove debugging from a leaked or testing ROM, there are other files a Dev has to remove.
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And forgot to say removing that one file doesn't remove debugging from a leaked or testing ROM, there are other files a Dev has to remove.
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thats what i wanted to hear as that apk debug tool.apk is present in all roms even the official roms just not test roms so it has tobe something else. that debug tool apk must be usb debugging that every phone has.
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thats what i wanted to hear as that apk debug tool.apk is present in all roms even the official roms just not test roms so it has tobe something else. that debug tool apk must be usb debugging that every phone has.
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Debugtool is only in sense roms , if you use MIUI/CM7 you won't be seeing those things, because that's a debug tool made by htc.
ok i ported htc vision official rom to glacier just to check, and as any other official sense 2.3 roms it gets low quadrant score than the froyo one, so sorry i dont believe that 2,19 version of the rom has anything wrong.
froyo 1.17 gets 1800+ stock
mysernse 2.1 glacier 2.19... gets 1600+
panache gets 1600+ stock
desire Z ported stock gets 1600+
remember im talking about stock roms means stock kernels and all.
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ok i ported htc vision official rom to glacier just to check, and as any other official sense 2.3 roms it gets low quadrant score than the froyo one, so sorry i dont believe that 2,19 version of the rom has anything wrong.
froyo 1.17 gets 1800+ stock
mysernse 2.1 glacier 2.19... gets 1600+
panache gets 1600+ stock
desire Z ported stock gets 1600+
remember im talking about stock roms means stock kernels and all.
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Gingerbread and quadrant don't play nicely on sense roms, MIUI/CM7/TouchWiz/Blur rom types will all get much higher quadrants scores under ginger. If you use CM7 you'll get around maybe 2400 at stock speed, compared to these under 2K scores that the ginger sense roms have. I would say it's related to something in the sense roms that htc is doing, that's leading to these lower scores. A Sensation stock gets around 2K, which is what a MT4G can get on its stock froyo rom, notice something wrong here?
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yes quadrant is a gimic
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Yeah it doesn't really measure performance really well....I like linpack more since it's only a cpu test of calculations. Quadrant may just need tuning .
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As the title states.. at this moment there is absolutely no reason why we dont have custom roms floating around for our devices yet, other then the fact that noone has taken the time to make one
We have a fully functional recovery from koush as far as pushing custom roms go.. we also have a fully functional froyo base to work with as well as a froyo .32 kernal.. nothing is stopping us at this point other then the fact that noones done one yet
Whos going to be the first to throw one out there?
Whoever it is, please remove all the bloat... Deodex all the system files for easy theming and try to zipalign and optimize however you can
This thread is absolutely useless, not to mention in the wrong section.
anybody can post it. But why sud be Start to Speculate or Gamble. When it will be available it will be like we got Froyo 2.2 stock image
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As the title states.. at this moment there is absolutely no reason why we dont have custom roms floating around for our devices yet, other then the fact that noone has taken the time to make one
We have a fully functional recovery from koush as far as pushing custom roms go.. we also have a fully functional froyo base to work with as well as a froyo .32 kernal.. nothing is stopping us at this point other then the fact that noones done one yet
Whos going to be the first to throw one out there?
Whoever it is, please remove all the bloat... Deodex all the system files for easy theming and try to zipalign and optimize however you can
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if your phone has root you can remove all the bloat you want and install whatever you want. you should get started with root explorer
Make your own F***ing rom then if you dont feel like waiting for somone to make one. Anyway I bet there is many people working on roms right for the droid x
So many smartasses. How about you guys lay off and get a life, the guy was just asking a question.
I agree with the OP, right around the time that koush released his recovery there were a bunch of people talking about coming out with froyo roms (birdman and rainabba namely)but without the froyo kernel, then the leaked froyo came out and nothing ever happened since.
Now we have a froyo kernel to work with, we just need a stock android build without any oem customization.
Bootloader still locked?
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I dont feel like we really need a new rom, whats it gonna do for me? It will either be 2.1 or the 2.2 leak with different themes/different apps, something I could and would rather do myself.
Outside of theming, I dont see the point.
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I dont feel like we really need a new rom, whats it gonna do for me? It will either be 2.1 or the 2.2 leak with different themes/different apps, something I could and would rather do myself.
Outside of theming, I dont see the point.
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There is definately benefits to be had as far as performance goes as well.. cleaning up the froyo build and optimizing / zipaligning the apks will get things going well, and as you said as far as theming goes, a completely deodexed rom will allow complete themes from A to Z not just status bar things, could even put a new lockscreen in place that may not have any crazy lag
I could see an industrious dev cleaning up the froyo build a little, but I have had almost zero issues with this build, outside of a build.prop change. We will see one soon I am sure, hell, Im just glad we finally have a custom recovery.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I could see an industrious dev cleaning up the froyo build a little, but I have had almost zero issues with this build, outside of a build.prop change. We will see one soon I am sure, hell, Im just glad we finally have a custom recovery.
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Yeah i just find it humerous that everyone was complaining we dont have a custom recovery and the world is goin to end, and im not going to buy a Droid X because the bootloader is locked etc etc yada yada... but then when we actually get rom flashing capabilities, noone even uses it lol
Isn't the bootloader for the Droid X still locked? IE no custom roms?
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They found a way around it, custom roms are doable now, just noones made one
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So, maybe this would be better asked in another thread, but how would I go about pulling the recovery image in order to customize it? I'm simply assuming that's how it's done, so if not, let me know. I would like to start messing with making some roms, but have no clue where to start as it seems to be all device-centric. Where does one learn all of this?
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They found a way around it, custom roms are doable now, just noones made one
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I don't understand how it's doable with a locked bootloader? If someone created a clean froyo rom how would it boot? Wouldn't that be similar to removing all the apk's from the leaked rom and expecting it to boot?
Please tell me if I'm wrong...
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I don't understand how it's doable with a locked bootloader? If someone created a clean froyo rom how would it boot? Wouldn't that be similar to removing all the apk's from the leaked rom and expecting it to boot?
Please tell me if I'm wrong...
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We can do custom roms, but have to include and not modify the stock kernel. So, no modular overclocking I believe.
Basically, the first roms to come out will be de blur'd so to speak, and then AOSP roms will hit later. Promise Just a matter of time.
The original lockdown of the bootloader and "efuse" scared a lot of dev's off of getting the X. I only know a handful of people deving for the X, so I assume this is why customs roms are taking a while to come out.
Regardless, they'll be here soon enough. Patience
Im getting the x soon, and maybe i can whip up a rom
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Koush's recovery for 2.1? Will it work on 2.2?
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Koush's recovery for 2.1? Will it work on 2.2?
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Unless the 2.2 out isnt root friendly, it should work, but then again, i dont have an x
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Stable CM 6.1 is out!!!
h t t p://mirror[dot]teamdouche[dot]net/?device=legend
oh no...what's the right thing to do now? wait htc or flash this?
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oh no...what's the right thing to do now? wait htc or flash this?
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im in the same boat .. dont know what to do ..
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I was hoping that the thread would help me decide!!
I m gonna flash CM6.1 froyo on HTC will be the same experience but faster. its time for something new
I've already Froyo and do miss CM actually, so I'm going for this one, thats for sure!
why there are no news in cyanogenmod website?
I got the link from cyanogenmod website. It's under the nightlies section. Weird but its there
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are there release notes?
also wondering if i should flash this or wait for official htc froyo...?
I'm waiting for official froyo but maybe I should try this rom. But I have some questions before
Does it have FM radio? It'll be possible with released sources from HTC?
And wifi hotspot support?
Is root necessary? Can you unroot once the rom is installed? Altought temporary root can be useful (like sudo in linux), being always root is a big security hole. I'm not sure if many people understant what being root means in linux (and android).
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I'm waiting for official froyo but maybe I should try this rom. But I have some questions before
Does it have FM radio? It'll be possible with released sources from HTC?
And wifi hotspot support?
Is root necessary? Can you unroot once the rom is installed? Altought temporary root can be useful (like sudo in linux), being always root is a big security hole. I'm not sure if many people understant what being root means in linux (and android).
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No
Not AP, but Ad-Hoc works using barnacle
Yes, it is.
Rooting is not much more of an issue - you still need to specifically give apps superuser permissions
ok so im downloading 2.05 now. willl update to froyo first.
is rooting froyo easier or will i have to downgrade back to 1.31?
hope visionary+ or Z4root work with froyo. that would be a life saver coz download speeds are slow and expensive in my country :S
Anyone compared performance froyo vs CM6.1?
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i didn't understand a thing:
flashing this rom, the kernel change? if yes, is OC?
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Anyone compared performance froyo vs CM6.1?
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I had the vodafone froyo rom but I flashed CM6.1 as soon as it came out. (used nightlies before)
And CM6.1 is just that bit snappier. If you don't really worry about that split second diffence (but I do) then you should go for Sense (it's nicer )
But I just like a snappy phone (I should have bought the Desire I know )
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I had the vodafone froyo rom but I flashed CM6.1 as soon as it came out. (used nightlies before)
And CM6.1 is just that bit snappier. If you don't really worry about that split second diffence (but I do) then you should go for Sense (it's nicer )
But I just like a snappy phone (I should have bought the Desire I know )
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Ok that's it, I'm formating this bastard and installing CM6.1 NOW!!!
^ yup..that & faster handcent load times & the lockscreen gestures & wifi connects faster & all those other xmas trimmings!
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^ yup..that & faster handcent load times & the lockscreen gestures & wifi connects faster & all those other xmas trimmings!
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Lets see how many of the ppl thats updating to froyo now finally will go for CM6.1
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Yeah, I'm waiting for some feedback. Using MoDaCo's Custom Froyo at the moment. Nothing GREAT, so if CM6.1 is worth it, I will install that.
Let the feedbacks begin!
Just wanted to say that I rooted to Cyanogen before froyo came to the Legend.
All in all I think I prefer it over 2.1 Legend.
It took a few days to get used to and I have missed a few HTC goodies - namely sync and the HTC keyboard (which is suprisingly a mile ahead of the default Android one). But there is a workaround (I've been told) so will give that a try soon.
I'm ever so tempted to give Sense Froyo a go and see what it's like as I don't really have anything to compare it to.
All in all though - I can't really say I've missed Sense too much; I've noticed a few things that stock Android could learn from Sense but on the whole not missed majorly.
If I upgrade to Sense Froyo - can I then root again or am I stuffed?
ta
(oh and rooting was a piece of piss... After I stopped cursing for an hour and realised I needed to downgrade.)
Since the HTC legend recently got Android 2.2 Froyo w/ sense, is there going to be someone to port the rom to the Slide?
I love the functionality of sense but I don't want to have to downgrade to eclair to get it.
So if anybody knows about work being done on that or if someone wants to volunteer, please inform me and anyone else who passes by this thread
Its gonna have the same problems as the 3rd sense rom because we don't have the official 2.2 kernel for mytouch slide! Which means I don't think anyone is going to port it! Check out 3rd sense though its stable enough and is the same sense ui
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Its gonna have the same problems as the 3rd sense rom because we don't have the official 2.2 kernel for mytouch slide! Which means I don't think anyone is going to port it! Check out 3rd sense though its stable enough and is the same sense ui
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yep, and actually i think 3rd sense is based on a froyo sense rom for the legend called gratiend so thats your rom right there, at least thats what the credits on the thread say..
I am currently running cyanogen mod 6.1 stable for my slide with clockwork recovery. Do I need to flash/install anything else before flashing this rom?
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I am currently running cyanogen mod 6.1 stable for my slide with clockwork recovery. Do I need to flash/install anything else before flashing this rom?
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Nope, all you need to do is a wipe before installing it so you dont get any weird errors
Okay thanks I will flash it, froyo aside, are there any REALLY good stable sense roms out there? Not espresso roms but original HTC sense? flash would be nice
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Okay thanks I will flash it, froyo aside, are there any REALLY good stable sense roms out there? Not espresso roms but original HTC sense? flash would be nice
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this one has flash lite as well... and as far i know this is the best sense based rom you can find for the slide go ahead try it and tell us what you think
Oh man it works amazingly, I had to disable javascript for the browser to run alright though. Otherwise it is an amazing rom. I ran into some less than polite stuff when I posted in the thread, but I suppose I am a noob. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Oh man it works amazingly, I had to disable javascript for the browser to run alright though. Otherwise it is an amazing rom. I ran into some less than polite stuff when I posted in the thread, but I suppose I am a noob. Thanks for the suggestion.
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yeah i just aswered your question there but i see you found it already, it can get a bit frustating for some of the people around here to aswer the same question all the time xD but as my avatar says "be nice or leave"... im glad i could help
Just wondering if it's possible to download and install the HTC Sense 3.0 interface/widgets? I have a stock droid rom which is nice but I want the HTC Sense 3 widgets
LOL
We all want new sense! Flash custom rom!
Can someone get me the keyboard from it ?
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I looking for it, too
what would be nice is the browser from the galaxy s 2 ?
There are some Sense 3.0 ROMs popping up, don't they have everything you'd be looking for?
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There are some Sense 3.0 ROMs popping up, don't they have everything you'd be looking for?
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Doesn't look like he's rooted. You can't just install Sense 3.0 like you install Launcher Pro.
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Can someone get me the keyboard from it ?
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Nope, but give this one a try: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin.free
I just rooted my phone today and flashed a rom with sense 3.0. It's pretty awesome, i think i am gonna stick with it for a while.
If you are not rooted, please do give it a try. Just make sure you make the appropriate backups.
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I just rooted my phone today and flashed a rom with sense 3.0. It's pretty awesome, i think i am gonna stick with it for a while.
If you are not rooted, please do give it a try. Just make sure you make the appropriate backups.
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Argeoff where did you find that rom? is it Gingerbread?
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Argeoff where did you find that rom? is it Gingerbread?
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Guys please search a bit on the forums. You can find the custom roms in the android development forum
Also yes sense 3 roms are gingerbread.
Now, since they are mostly.experimental, do some research first, get to know some android terms (like nandroid ,clockworkmod, fastboot, adb ,RUU etc) read all of the stickies and then go flashing a rom. What's important when flashing roms/radio/recoveries/bootloaders is to understand what you are doing before doing it. If you do it that way, there are high chances your device won't end as a decorative rock/brick on a bookshelf
Also this is not the correct section
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Guys please search a bit on the forums. You can find the custom roms in the android development forum
Also yes sense 3 roms are gingerbread.
Now, since they are mostly.experimental, do some research first, get to know some android terms (like nandroid ,clockworkmod, fastboot, adb ,RUU etc) read all of the stickies and then go flashing a rom. What's important when flashing roms/radio/recoveries/bootloaders is to understand what you are doing before doing it. If you do it that way, there are high chances your device won't end as a decorative rock/brick on a bookshelf
Also this is not the correct section
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Yes, the guy is correct. Reading up is very important.
You could try one with 3.0 mods, 3.0 lockscreen, weather etc.
The rom that i am on now is InsertCoin, stable build. Very stable, and it's on gingerbread. I highly recommend it.
Hello, i have virtuous 2.0 rom installed, and i'd like to get some info about kernels before flashing anything, if you have any advice or experience with this rom and tried kernels on it it would be nice to let me know, i did some research but i am kinda lost, was going to put Unity kernel but then i thought i have 2.3.3 and i read it is for 2.3.4>. Anyway thanks in advance.
Oh and one last thing are there many Sense 2.1 ROMS, iknow virtous and InsertCoin.
Some other 2.1 ROMS
eVil has 2 mytouch ROMS - one is a slide the other is not
bsbokc has a mytouch rom (myVision 2.3.4)
virtuous had 1.0.2 before the 2.0
siulmagic has paradox (2.1 + 3.0 widgets like insertcoin)
suilmagic has Synergy (2.1 + 3.0)
I think there was a leedroid that was 2.1 but I could be wrong.
There is an archive out there of many of the ROMS @ http://xda.niksie.nl/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&view=viewcategory&catid=6&Itemid=1, I have nothing to do with it, but many thanks to Niksie
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Hello, i have virtuous 2.0 rom installed, and i'd like to get some info about kernels before flashing anything, if you have any advice or experience with this rom and tried kernels on it it would be nice to let me know, i did some research but i am kinda lost, was going to put Unity kernel but then i thought i have 2.3.3 and i read it is for 2.3.4>. Anyway thanks in advance.
Oh and one last thing are there many Sense 2.1 ROMS, iknow virtous and InsertCoin.
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Manythanks to you friend for the link provided, i think i have some more to learn, android world moves so fast ^^
i'll experiment some more and see.
Oh one more question, do i need to install SetCPU or OC'd kernels are already pre-configured to mange cpu frequencies and voltages? or maybe there is a file to modifiy or customize?
Most 2.1 Rom's will use setcpu as the other oc's came out more on the 3.0 sense roms. Also check in the /etc for a virtuous directory, if there you can edit the files there to increase the clocks as well, but you will need to know what values to use as well.
blackdogdz said:
Manythanks to you friend for the link provided, i think i have some more to learn, android world moves so fast ^^
i'll experiment some more and see.
Oh one more question, do i need to install SetCPU or OC'd kernels are already pre-configured to mange cpu frequencies and voltages? or maybe there is a file to modifiy or customize?
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Ah ok it's clearer now. so i'll do with setCPU on Sense 2.1 roms, thanks for the tips