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Hi, I recently purchased a Dell Venue Pro and I am going to get it some time this weekend. The main concern I have with this phone is the small amount of storage. 8gb is simply not enough for me. Perhaps I missed something, but I've been reading through this forum and haven't found a very good explanation for newbies on how to replace the SD Card. I have actually seen some posts that say that they managed to exchange their 8gb SD Card for a Sandisk 32GB micro SD card Class 2. However, I would like to have some guidance and instruction from someone experienced doing this; I wouldn't want a bricked Dell Venue Pro.
Therefore, could anyone please instruct me with a step by step guide on how to replace my SD card without crashing my system and which sd cards are compatible? Thank you.
Believe me when I tell you this will not work. What you will end up with is a bricked phone that needs to be replaced.
If you have a device that was shipped between December and now you don't have an engineering sample, those are the only devices that can actually format the sd card to the proper filesystem and lock the card down in way you'd expect it to.
If you'd like to test that theory, simply replace the card while it's off. Perform a hard reset on the device (the CAM + VOL DN combination does not work), shut it down and put the card back in an SD reader. It won't be formatted and won't be locked down.
You might be able to format the card on a Windows CE machine with storage manager, but the most I've been able to do is get the SD card test to show a 114 not ok instead of a 115 not ok.
After that, if you're lucky, you'll be able to simply throw the old card back in the device and proceed with enjoying your phone with the original SD card. If you're unlucky your phone will not boot.
Food for thought:
In the diagnostics application there is a button for "Service Center" which displays two boxes: Zune and Composite.
When you press the CAM key during boot this puts the device into a "restore" mode that Zune is supposed to work with at some point in the future.
I'm guessing if we can figure out a way to flip the mode to Composite (currently requires a password) that the "test/debug" bootloader will allow us to format the cards properly.
It's also entirely possible that the reason the engineering samples work and the retail devices don't is that the eng samples are in this mode already.
Wow thanks a lot for the very thorough answer. Do you think we will see memory expansion as a possibility in the near future?
Ok, without trying to insult anyone, 'm gonna call Bullshxt. I now have 3 VP's in my possession. Ok....1 I dropped and it doesn't start any more. But that still leaves 2. On both of them I have removed the SD card, replaced hte card with bigger and smaller SD cards and have even left the SD card slot empty. I have NEVER bricked my phone.
Let's leave performance behind first...and not consider it. Lets just talk about changing cards.
The key to changing cards is process. Take the card out and restart your device, it won't boot. there is no external keys for hard reset. Place that same card back in your device, it will start.
To change out a card, do this:
1. Hard reset your device
2. On the reboot portion, remove the battery and then remove the card
3. Put the battery back in and let the device start up
4. Walk through startup and your phone is ready to use.
Keep this same process each time. You cannot remove a card, without first going through the hard reset process. You cannot add a card with out first going through the hard reset process. The hard reset process initializes the card to the device.
I've done this at least a dozen times, with cards ranging from 2,4, 8 and 16g. I've done it with cards pulled out of Google phones and an HD2. I've done it with cards that have never been used before. Its 1, 2, 3, 4. No matter what combination of removal and add....1,2, 3, 4. Remove a card, its 1,2 ,3, 4. Add a card, 1,2,3,4. Simple.
Now...if you want to talk about Performance....thats another conversation....
Again....no insult intended with the BS call.
Sorry...forgot to add 1 thing.....this has been described on this forum several weeks ago...so...what I'm saying is not a huge discovery from me...but rather from the guy that posted this around christmas.....I just repeated it is all !!!
Oh OK, sweet thanks for the thorough step by step guide! This is exactly what I needed.
A few questions though.
On step 2. you mention a reboot portion. What does that mean? After hard resetting what is my "queue" to remomving my battery and SD Card
Also, you never state in the 4 step process when exactly I put my alternative SD Card in. Would I put it in step 3 when I put my battery in?
Finally, you say Performance is a different story. Are you saying that replacing SD Cards will make the phone slower or more prone to crashing or working less stably?
Thank you.
I think once the phone is ready to use again, you then start the process over again at Step 1, except instead of removing the SD card in Step 2, you put the new one in.
What I want to know is, if taking out the provided SD card voids the warranty, how do you get a new phone without paying for it? Or does the warranty not cover that specification?
none taken, but your claim about the device not booting if you remove the card is false.
It will boot, sans card, with ~15mb of free storage space with no customizations. It's also likely though that if your device does boot into this state, you will never be able to get another SD card to work in it ever again.
Even if it boots into the "no storage" state it's still possible to put in the old card (in most cases) and have it work. I'm just saying that has not been the case for everyone.
Looks like I've found quite a good amount of posts from people stating that they have swapped SD cards succcessfully so might try this if I feel like I require more storage. Would anyone happen to know if there are certain types of SD Cards I should use to make this work? Also, alodar1, you have stated something about performance being another story? Would I be sacrificing performance by swapping cards? What kinds of issues would I be having?
1) Open settings-> about menu in phone
2) Press "reset"
3) Press "yes" twice. The phone will start to reboot.
4) Wait until the phone shuts down and begins to reboot, and take the battery out. NOTE: If you take out the battery too early, it will not work correctly. I waited until I first saw the Dell logo pop up and then pulled the battery, and that worked.
5) Remove the old SD card (I used a very small eyeglass screwdriver to gently pry it out since it isn't spring loaded)
6) Put in new card, replace battery, restart phone
7) Go through the setup process
That should do it. My phone hasn't crashed since I replaced the card on Sunday, so its been a success for me. I have not had any performance issues with my new card - but I suppose that really depends on your card. Granted, I actually downgraded - I went to a Sandisk Class 4 8GB card. Soon enough I'll be getting a 32GB card and trying that one out.
Ah things are much clearer now thank you very much, will try this. I'll pray my phone doesn't go bad... gulp.
Also, are you saying you were a victim of the crashes and replacing the SD Card fixed it?
OK so I'm going to buy an SD Card, a 16gb, so should I go for a class 2 or class 4? What's the difference between the two and is any one of those two incompatible with the venue pro?
Erchino said:
Ah things are much clearer now thank you very much, will try this. I'll pray my phone doesn't go bad... gulp.
Also, are you saying you were a victim of the crashes and replacing the SD Card fixed it?
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Yes - my phone crashed very frequently with the 16GB card. Many times a day. I've now gone a full week without a crash with the new card.
Erchino said:
OK so I'm going to buy an SD Card, a 16gb, so should I go for a class 2 or class 4? What's the difference between the two and is any one of those two incompatible with the venue pro?
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Mine is class 4. The problem here is that there is no official specification. The class rating refers to data transfer speed - but the requirement for Windows Phone 7 is random access speed, which the card manufacturers don't advertise. Early reports actually showed that higher class (6+ cards) actually perform worse in WP7.
I don't have the DVP yet. Will the warranty be void when the SD card is replaced/removed? Thanks.
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I don't have the DVP yet. Will the warranty be void when the SD card is replaced/removed? Thanks.
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Yes, the black tape shows "VOID" after you remove it. A prior warning would be nice, since the tape doesn't say that on the outside.
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Yes, the black tape shows "VOID" after you remove it. A prior warning would be nice, since the tape doesn't say that on the outside.
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Does it really say "VOID"? I removed the tape but I can't discern any letters left on the device. However, I can see an "O" on the tape.
yep, it says VOID and the black VOID letters are left behind when you remove the sticker.
So for those who have replaced their cards, how is the phone holding up? Able to use wifi and the marketplace and IE with no crashes?
Erchino said:
Looks like I've found quite a good amount of posts from people stating that they have swapped SD cards succcessfully so might try this if I feel like I require more storage. Would anyone happen to know if there are certain types of SD Cards I should use to make this work? Also, alodar1, you have stated something about performance being another story? Would I be sacrificing performance by swapping cards? What kinds of issues would I be having?
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sorry for the delay in replying. No, not necessarily. Personally I believe there is an issue with the specific cards Dell used. But what do I know for sure. I swapped to another 16g card...nothing fancy...just directly out of the HD2.....it worked and performance was better. A couple of friends of mine did a similar swap, looking at specific R/W speeds, class types, etc. They had mixed results. So, my guess is, there is something else that is a trigger that no one has hit on yet. I know my 16g performance is not as good as the 8g performance....in smoothness of card access. If I swap down to an 8g card...or even a 4g card....I can see the difference.....the performance is smoother.
Now, this doesn't say that those people with the 32g cards are NOT seeing that smoothness. I'm saying that I tried this as a test because I had cards laying around....and noticed a difference. The difference strongly indicates the shipped 16g cards are not what they should be. But, this does not mean the 32g cards on the market right now are the answer.
HELP !!!
I tried changing my 8GB SD card to a 16GB SD card. it booted up fine everything seemed ok, but when I restart the phone it loses all settings. So I put the original card back in, followed the same steps. Now my phone only sees 16 MEGABYTES of storage, I've tried multiple factory resets, after a reset it doesnt even go through the normal setup process. All it does is go back to the homescreen with only the normal tiles accept all the newsroom, tmobile family room and stuff isn't there either. If I pin an app to the start screen then restart the phone the pinned app is gone from the start up screen can someone PLEASE help, I'd be happy just to get it back to normal, with the original SD card in it
I've got a NC rooted using a 16GB SanDisk mSD card with CM7 on it (not sure precisely the version but don't think it matters). I set this up with help from the xda-developers site in December 2011 and have only used the NC in this mode ever since. I bought the NC as a refurb from the B&N eBay sale in late November 2011 and the unit has a one-year warranty.
Two days ago I was using the NC looking at photos and I let the screen time out and turn off. After this the NC wouldn't turn on; didn't matter what I did. I tried holding the power button down for 10-seconds, I pulled the mSD card and tried a hard reset (power, n, vol- for 5-seconds), tried charging the battery until the stock charging cable light went from orange to green. Did everything I could think of without any signs of life in the NC.
So I brought the NC to a B&N store (without the mSD card or mentioning that I'd been running it rooted) and the moment the guy in the store hit the power button the damned thing booted to the stock OS. The guy told me that this type of thing happens frequently and he thinks there's something about the WiFi in the store "waking up" the NC's (seemed like bull-bleep to me, but the NC was running). The guy told me he'd update the OS from the 1.2v it was at to the current 1.4v and this too could help. I let him do it figuring it probably didn't matter because I should be able to reset it to the factory config if there was something about the 1.4v that screwed up the root.
The guy gave me my NC back after updating it, told me if the problem persisted he'd do an exchange, and I went into my car in the parking lot. There I put in my mSD card into the NC after doing a full shutdown and it booted into CM7 with no problems. Today, however, same problem occurred, couldn't get the screen to turn on. So I pulled the mSD card, tried all the buttons, hard reset, etc. Then I shook the unit and was then able to get it to boot to the stock OS. Did a power down, installed the mSD card, and it booted to CM7 again no problem. That was ten-minutes ago, now the screen is again dead.
Even though the NC has lived a pretty easy life inside an Otterbox case, never been dropped or exposed to water or high humidity, I'm thinking this is a hardware problem and that I should just do an exchange. I've not found any similar posts or information about this type of thing, so I'd appreciate anybody's thoughts about the matter. Specifically:
1 - If I get an exchanged unit, should I be able to boot from my mSD card or will I have to format it and re-install CM7 like I did initially?
2 - If I'm offered a Nook Tablet in place of a NC, should I take the Tablet? I know it's got more power but I understand that rooting it even via mSD card is a PIA and not as straight forward as doing so on the NC.
3 - Is there anything obvious that I'm missing here?
Thanks for the help and apologies if I missed that this is a common problem the fix for which is commonly known.
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I've got a NC rooted using a 16GB SanDisk mSD card with CM7 on it (not sure precisely the version but don't think it matters). I set this up with help from the xda-developers site in December 2011 and have only used the NC in this mode ever since. I bought the NC as a refurb from the B&N eBay sale in late November 2011 and the unit has a one-year warranty.
Two days ago I was using the NC looking at photos and I let the screen time out and turn off. After this the NC wouldn't turn on; didn't matter what I did. I tried holding the power button down for 10-seconds, I pulled the mSD card and tried a hard reset (power, n, vol- for 5-seconds), tried charging the battery until the stock charging cable light went from orange to green. Did everything I could think of without any signs of life in the NC.
So I brought the NC to a B&N store (without the mSD card or mentioning that I'd been running it rooted) and the moment the guy in the store hit the power button the damned thing booted to the stock OS. The guy told me that this type of thing happens frequently and he thinks there's something about the WiFi in the store "waking up" the NC's (seemed like bull-bleep to me, but the NC was running). The guy told me he'd update the OS from the 1.2v it was at to the current 1.4v and this too could help. I let him do it figuring it probably didn't matter because I should be able to reset it to the factory config if there was something about the 1.4v that screwed up the root.
The guy gave me my NC back after updating it, told me if the problem persisted he'd do an exchange, and I went into my car in the parking lot. There I put in my mSD card into the NC after doing a full shutdown and it booted into CM7 with no problems. Today, however, same problem occurred, couldn't get the screen to turn on. So I pulled the mSD card, tried all the buttons, hard reset, etc. Then I shook the unit and was then able to get it to boot to the stock OS. Did a power down, installed the mSD card, and it booted to CM7 again no problem. That was ten-minutes ago, now the screen is again dead.
Even though the NC has lived a pretty easy life inside an Otterbox case, never been dropped or exposed to water or high humidity, I'm thinking this is a hardware problem and that I should just do an exchange. I've not found any similar posts or information about this type of thing, so I'd appreciate anybody's thoughts about the matter. Specifically:
1 - If I get an exchanged unit, should I be able to boot from my mSD card or will I have to format it and re-install CM7 like I did initially?
2 - If I'm offered a Nook Tablet in place of a NC, should I take the Tablet? I know it's got more power but I understand that rooting it even via mSD card is a PIA and not as straight forward as doing so on the NC.
3 - Is there anything obvious that I'm missing here?
Thanks for the help and apologies if I missed that this is a common problem the fix for which is commonly known.
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Could be you are experiencing the Sleep of Death (SOD) problem. The unit is still on but can't wake up. The only thing you can do to get out of it is to hard power it off and back on. Hold the power button for a long time. Release and push again until it turns back on.
SOD happens when you leave wifi on all the time and the unit goes into deep sleep. Sometimes you can't wake it back up.
If you have this happening a lot, there is a modded wifi kernel module that helps. If you need it, PM me and I will send you a link.
If you get an exchange it should work just like yours with the SD install. Just put the same card in and should run OK.
You won't get a nook tablet without paying more. If you are happy with the color, I would stay with it. The tablet is still iffy about running other ROMs yet.
Thanks for the info. Does the SOD affect the unrooted NC? If it doesn't then I should be able to trouble shoot the problem by running the NC with the stock OS for several days and see if the problem continues. Does this sound reasonable?
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Turgidson said:
Thanks for the info. Does the SOD affect the unrooted NC? If it doesn't then I should be able to trouble shoot the problem by running the NC with the stock OS for several days and see if the problem continues. Does this sound reasonable?
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It does not affect the stock. That should be a good test.
Hello Folks!
I guess my question will make me sound dumber than a box of rocks, but here goes. A bit of history before I make myself an idiot. I've only been fooling with computers and these new tech. machines for about a year and a half now and for the most part been having an enjoyable time. I'm 70 years old and I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box anymore, time has dulled my tip a bit. I've been given a Nook Tablet as a Christmas gift by 2 of my grandsons, I intend to change the Android on it to the Ice Cream version but before I do I want to practice on something else first. So I bought a used Nook Color from a lady at church for $50 and I want to try and make a SD card to run the new Android from. The reason I want to use SD card is that there are over 200 books on the Nook and I would like to eventually read a lot of them. I guess I'm just greedy.
I've spent most of the weekend reading this forum information, but unfortunately the more I read the more confused I get. There is a tremendous amount of information to try and digest here and sometimes some of it seems to contradict itself. What are the different types of modified Androids that can be used? Can the Andriod that is installed on the SD card be modified so that more applications can be stored on it? How difficult is it to install the software that allows you to speed up the Nooks processor, that is, can a raw noob do it?
I'm sorry if I've yacked too much. I'm still learning how to correctly ask the questions.
Hey, knock off the old man stuff. I am 67 and my crayon tip is still sharp (although there are some here that would disagree with that, LOL). This nook color stuff is not that hard. I would recommend putting cm7 on sd first to get your feet wet. Then if you feel like experimenting move on to cm9. You can get the rom at cyanogenmod.com (for the encore - Nook Color). I recommend 7.2 RC3. It comes already rooted and overclocked so you can speed it up. And it has plenty of room for apps if you put it on a 4Gb card or larger. If you can afford it, I recommend 16GB (and Sandisk, class 4). Follow this guide to set it up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12240928
But look at my tips thread linked in my signature to get an updated image to use instead of the one in the thread above. Also read all of section B in my tips, as it all applies to the sd installation. If you need more help, just come back here.
GrampaBear said:
Hello Folks!
I guess my question will make me sound dumber than a box of rocks, but here goes. A bit of history before I make myself an idiot. I've only been fooling with computers and these new tech. machines for about a year and a half now and for the most part been having an enjoyable time. I'm 70 years old and I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box anymore, time has dulled my tip a bit. I've been given a Nook Tablet as a Christmas gift by 2 of my grandsons, I intend to change the Android on it to the Ice Cream version but before I do I want to practice on something else first. So I bought a used Nook Color from a lady at church for $50 and I want to try and make a SD card to run the new Android from. The reason I want to use SD card is that there are over 200 books on the Nook and I would like to eventually read a lot of them. I guess I'm just greedy.
I've spent most of the weekend reading this forum information, but unfortunately the more I read the more confused I get. There is a tremendous amount of information to try and digest here and sometimes some of it seems to contradict itself. What are the different types of modified Androids that can be used? Can the Andriod that is installed on the SD card be modified so that more applications can be stored on it? How difficult is it to install the software that allows you to speed up the Nooks processor, that is, can a raw noob do it?
I'm sorry if I've yacked too much. I'm still learning how to correctly ask the questions.
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And in keeping with the older guy thread concept (66), you're talking about two different devices, the Nook Tablet (NT) and the Nook Color (NC). The newer NT is much more difficult to deal with than the older NC. It's not as straightforward to install anything on the NT as it is for the NC. Also try to differentiate between the device hardware and the operating system software. The software will get the most out of a particular devices' hardware. The NC's processor is single core; the NT is dual core. The Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) Android operating system applications are pretty much the same between the two devices, but the operating system interface between the applications and the hardware (the kernel) is different, so overclocking, over/undervolting, etc. will be different, too.
Just keep reading; that's how to sharpen the tip. It's never permanently dull until everything else is.
shumash said:
And in keeping with the older guy thread concept (66), you're talking about two different devices, the Nook Tablet (NT) and the Nook Color (NC). The newer NT is much more difficult to deal with than the older NC. It's not as straightforward to install anything on the NT as it is for the NC. Also try to differentiate between the device hardware and the operating system software. The software will get the most out of a particular devices' hardware. The NC's processor is single core; the NT is dual core. The Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) Android operating system applications are pretty much the same between the two devices, but the operating system interface between the applications and the hardware (the kernel) is different, so overclocking, over/undervolting, etc. will be different, too.
Just keep reading; that's how to sharpen the tip. It's never permanently dull until everything else is.
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You're right of course. I was talking about how to update his NC. I also have an NT and it is much more difficult to deal with on modding.
Actually, after playing with the rooted 1.4.2 stock NT, I see no reason to move to CM yet on it (BT is the only thing missing on stock), even though I have CM7/CM9 on dual boot SD. After CM gets more stable on the NT, maybe.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
Old age
Gentlemen,
Thanks for the replies. I don't feel old most of the time, just when I have some of the youngsters whizzing past me. Computers, smart cell phones, and Nooks are fairly new to me, never touched one until after my wife passed a year and a half ago. Now I need one to keep in touch with my family (4 kids, 12 grandkids(and 3 more on the way), and 4 greatgrand kids (and 2 more coming).
Due to a accident last fall the old brain sometimes has a bit of a hard time comprehending things now and then, so I get a bit frustrated and I may ask questions that seem to be a repeat. Hope you all can forgive that.
Thanks!
The tablet my grandsons gave me is a Lenovo A1 not a Nook tablet. It is running Android 2.3 and I want to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when I'm confident enough in my abilities.
Well done, gentlemen.
These two will have you building your own Android OS before you're done, GrampaBear.
GrampaBear said:
The tablet my grandsons gave me is a Lenovo A1 not a Nook tablet. It is running Android 2.3 and I want to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when I'm confident enough in my abilities.
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You might want to check out these for information on the Lenovo Ideapad A1:
http://androidforums.com/lenovo-ideapad-a1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355319
There's very little activity for this device on xdadevelopers, and what we know is primarily for the Nook Color.
Well, I started the process of making an SD card with Android on it. I am now thoroughly convinced I am near as dumb as a box of rocks. I download the agnostic sd card image and the win32imager. I didn't realise I needed to uncompress the files ( this was a first for me, never had to do it before ). I finally figured out I needed WinZip and I downloaded the trial version and ran the program. I took a old Kingston 4 GB class4 micro sd card (I have ordered a Sandisk from newegg but didn't want to wait to try) and formatted it to fat32 with a sd formatting program. I then ran Winimage (with my fingers crossed for I was not sure of what I was doing) and I think I have the image on the sd card, at least when I look at the card it windows it says boot on the sd icon. I went to the site where the C7 images are kept, but could not get one to download ( this was around 11 pm last night ). One problem I have is that I have no idea what I'm looking for when I pick a file. Could you tell me which one I should be using? It says I should write the image to the card, put the card in the nook and boot it. OK! I'll give that a shot, but how exactly do I get the Nook to boot off the sd card and how exactly does the Nook know what to do with the program? Will this mess up the Nook and the programs on it?
I knew that this would be a project, but after 12 hours of reading and trying I've become a bit frustrated. Maybe someone would take on a project and write a forum called The Big Dummy's Guide to Installing CM7 to a SD card and do a step by step instruction that tells us dummys what we should be seeing as we do this.
Funny you should ask about the dummies guide to SD installs. Taosaur just gave me a link to his here:
http://taosaur.blogspot.com/2011/09/running-cyanogenmod-7-from-sd-nook.html
He gives links for the CM7 files. Pick the CM 7.2 RC3.
Once you get the SD set up right and the CM zip on it, just put in your nook and boot. Everything is automatic and does not harm your stock install at all.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
Thanks for answering my post. Looks like I'll be starting all over with the process again later this evening. You must have been doing this work for quite a while with the knowledge you have.
Well, for now I'm taking my 6 1/2 year old great-granddaughter, a couple of fishin poles, a can of worms, and we're walking down to the pond to catch us some bluegills for dinner. Need to have a little grandpa fun and let the ole brain relax for a bit.
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Well, I started the process of making an SD card with Android on it. I am now thoroughly convinced I am near as dumb as a box of rocks. I download the agnostic sd card image and the win32imager. I didn't realise I needed to uncompress the files ( this was a first for me, never had to do it before ). I finally figured out I needed WinZip and I downloaded the trial version and ran the program. I took a old Kingston 4 GB class4 micro sd card (I have ordered a Sandisk from newegg but didn't want to wait to try) and formatted it to fat32 with a sd formatting program. I then ran Winimage (with my fingers crossed for I was not sure of what I was doing) and I think I have the image on the sd card, at least when I look at the card it windows it says boot on the sd icon. I went to the site where the C7 images are kept, but could not get one to download ( this was around 11 pm last night ). One problem I have is that I have no idea what I'm looking for when I pick a file. Could you tell me which one I should be using? It says I should write the image to the card, put the card in the nook and boot it. OK! I'll give that a shot, but how exactly do I get the Nook to boot off the sd card and how exactly does the Nook know what to do with the program? Will this mess up the Nook and the programs on it?
I knew that this would be a project, but after 12 hours of reading and trying I've become a bit frustrated. Maybe someone would take on a project and write a forum called The Big Dummy's Guide to Installing CM7 to a SD card and do a step by step instruction that tells us dummys what we should be seeing as we do this.
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Leapinlar's post will answer your questions, but here's a few things to watch for that may concern you:
1. It takes a while for the initial install, and you may see a black screen without any indication of activity. Don't panic! If it lasts more than 20 minutes or so, turn the Nook off, pull the sdcard out, and start again. Don't be afraid to redo everything.
2. The first time it successfully boots into Android, you will see the introductory splash screen for what seems an inordinately long time. It's setting up files and processes so just let it run. Once again, if it takes more that 20 minutes or so, there's most likely some problem.
2. The Kingston card may be sloooow, so my comment above is even more possible. Because the Kingston card is so slow, when you finally boot into Android on it, you may think that the system is too slow or error-prone to run on an sdcard. You may get popups during boot up, when you're running programs, or when its just sitting there, saying something to the effect that so and so program has a problem or had a fault or whatever, and asking you to wait or "force close" (FC). This is probably caused by the card. Your Sandisk card will generally not have those problems (I've been running for over a year on an 8gb Sandisk card with no problems and very snappy response).
Thank you
Shumash,
Thank you for the information. I tried my first try at making a card tonight, it appears to be a no go. Left the Nook alone for an hour and 15 minutes with nothing apparently happening. I will reformat the card and try again tomorrow. I want to thank all who have written to help me along. I know what a pain in the kester having to work with absolute beginners can be.
GrampaBear said:
Shumash,
Thank you for the information. I tried my first try at making a card tonight, it appears to be a no go. Left the Nook alone for an hour and 15 minutes with nothing apparently happening. I will reformat the card and try again tomorrow. I want to thank all who have written to help me along. I know what a pain in the kester having to work with absolute beginners can be.
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I see you used winimage to burn. Do not use 'write disk' to burn it. Use 'Restore Virtual Disk Image to physical drive' in the same menu. That's why I recommended win32diskimager. It is simpler to use for noobs.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
Shumash,
I did use win32diskimager but I apparently did something wrongin the process. I will try again tomorrow it's late and I'm a bit tired.One thing that I will be doing also is trying to learn as much about Android as I can, though it may need to be in a bit simplified format. If anyone can suggest available information this old geezer will appreciate any guides to it.
I finally did it!
It took me 6 trys and I'm not sure what I did right this time, but I finally had success. The first 5 trys all I would get on the screen were 3 lines going across the screen about 40% of the way up and nothing else. The last time it booted and took a bit of time probably 12 - 15 minutes working and then shut itself down. I was thinking it was another failure and held the power button down for a few seconds to restart and Bingo! up came the Android window. I messed around a bit and set up the wireless and pulled up the internet. I LIKE IT!!
It is a bit slow and I'm assuming the Sandisk card will fix that when it finally arrives. It didn't freeze up or anything just ran a bit slow. The Lenovo A1 that my grandsons gave me is always locking up.
The only other thing that I have a worry about is the micro sd card reader in the Nook. I did have a pretty hard time getting the card in and out of the reader slot. I've labored with my hands all of my life and I have developed rather thick and calloused fingers and a bit of arthritis doesn't help either. I can not physically fit the tip of my finger into the little open loop area for the SD card reader. I had to use a tweezer from my fly tying kit to insert and remove the card from the Nook. After I get this type of card down pat I'd like to see if there is a way to leave the card in all of the time and be able to boot from the card or the nook reader software.
THANKS AGAIN! I wouldn't have succeeded without all of you gentlemens help.
While I was finishing typing this message my 13 year old grandson has been fooling around with the Android on the Nook. He said to tell you, that you all are AWESOME!
GrampaBear said:
Shumash,
I did use win32diskimager but I apparently did something wrongin the process. I will try again tomorrow it's late and I'm a bit tired.One thing that I will be doing also is trying to learn as much about Android as I can, though it may need to be in a bit simplified format. If anyone can suggest available information this old geezer will appreciate any guides to it.
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If you're using windiskimager, getting everything straight can be a bit confusing. Make sure that you're doing the following four steps on your PC, not the Nook!
1. To the right of the box that says "Image File", there is a blue folder picture. Click on it and select the image file. It should be something like "generic-sdcard.img". It's easiest if the image file is in the same directory/folder as the win32diskimager software.
2. To the right of the blue folder looking picture is the selection box for the location where this image will be written. It says "Device" right above it. If it is the wrong drive letter, click on the arrow at the right of the box. Select the letter of the sdcard. Use a file manager or windows explorer to find out which drive letter the sdcard is. Make absolutely sure you know which drive it is!
3. After you have properly selected the image file and the correct drive letter, click "write" and wait for it to complete.
4. After the image has been written, you will have to put the CM7 (Gingerbread) or CM9 (ICS) flashable zip on the sdcard in its root directory (called "/boot" in a file manager or windows explorer). Copy the one you want onto the sdcard.
Once the above is done, remove the sdcard from the PC and put it in your Nook. Boot the Nook up, and it will do everything else automatically.
GrampaBear said:
The only other thing that I have a worry about is the micro sd card reader in the Nook. I did have a pretty hard time getting the card in and out of the reader slot. I've labored with my hands all of my life and I have developed rather thick and calloused fingers and a bit of arthritis doesn't help either. I can not physically fit the tip of my finger into the little open loop area for the SD card reader. I had to use a tweezer from my fly tying kit to insert and remove the card from the Nook. After I get this type of card down pat I'd like to see if there is a way to leave the card in all of the time and be able to boot from the card or the nook reader software.
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It's funny you should mention old hands and micro chips. I have always had a hard time with the chip and that darned slot. Yesterday I was changing the chip and it popped out. I was sitting in my big recliner, you know the kind all old folks have, LOL. Anyway, the chip went down the crack in the chair. I could not find it. I finally turned the chair on it's side and shook it. It came tumbling out. LOL.
So you will be glad to hear there is a way to set up your stock so that you can use the same SDcard. The only complication is your stock must be rooted first. But that is simple to do. But maybe you want wait on that till you are more confident. Once it is rooted you can look at my tips thread, item B3, and I tell you how to set up stock to use the same SD so you don't have to keep changing cards. There is another method of setting it up without rooting first, but it is more complex to do. If you want me to reference that thread, let me know.
Leapinlar,
I know what you mean about the old folks and recliner thing. I have a big old style chair with a foot stool that my wife bought me at a garage sale 38 years ago. It was well over 20 years old when she bought it. She re-upholstered it and made it into the most comfortable chair for a large man ever. I'm kinda like Archie Bunker with that chair, it's my chair and you don't sit in it unless I offer it to you.
I appreciate all the help you all have given me, this is all new to me and sometimes I get to feeling a bit flumoxed. I'm having a bit of a problem getting the Android gapps program to work at the moment. Think I may be copying it to the wrong spot, but Windows only seems to show me one spot to copy to. I'll get it figured out it'll just take time. It may be a bit before I feel brave enough to root the Nook.
Still waiting for the Sandisk card to arrive. The Kingston card seems to work but is really slow at times.
You're copying it right. As you turn the nook on with the card in the slot, hold down the n key and choose to boot into the SD recovery partition.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA
(BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH)
OK, I have a dead Nook on my hands - non-responsive completely. A coworker of mine bought one of those CM7 cards off of Ebay and it worked fine, but had some connection issues, so I suggested he make a move to PA. Of course, I was the one that was going to do this, so I installed CWR to the EMMC, rebooted, hit N, and booted to EMMC recovery no problem.
Here's where things got stupid:
In recovery, I attempted to install PA without removing the sd card and used the internal SD Card to grab the image. Yeah, I know... Browbeating not necessary... It was taking too long and appeared stuck, and then suddenly the unit just appeared to power down. That was it. No more recovery, the card no longer worked, NOTHING!
Hooked it up to my PC and for a second or two when you hook it up, you can see in the device manager, the Motorola device pops up (I own a Motorola phone, so I assume the drivers are kicking in), and then it goes away. Long press power, do it again, same results. Still no screen, no nothing.
So I figure the 16GB CM7 card (Sandisk SDHC) still has to be useful for creating a recovery card, right? After all, whoever created it originally was able to stuff a bootloader on there, right?
So here's what I tried in terms of tools:
win32diskimager .1 r15
win32diskimager .7
WinImage 8.5
with these, I have tried the following images:
16gb_clockwork-3.0.2.8.img
generic-sdcard-v1.3.img
TWRP-2.1.8-bootable-SD.img
And I used MiniTool Partition Wizard to remove the partitions after each attempt and reformat back to its full 16GB.
The only time a burn was unsuccessful was on the 16GB clockwork with Win32DiskImager - it gave an error stating it couldn't find sectors at 99%. I tried an 8GB image too, but while it burned successfully, no dice.
Alright, so here we are, me at the end of my wits, you reading this tale of woe, and a coworker without a functioning device. The device has charged all night. I owned an NC for years and was mod-happy during that time, and although I had BSOD, I was able to fix it easily. This is a 1 year old BNRV200 (pretty sure they didn't switch up the models).
Help? Advice? WT%#$%^?
EDIT: ADB does not recognize the device when connected.
Go to my NC partition repair thread linked in my signature and follow the procedures there.
Use SDFormatter free on the web for formatting your card before burning one of my bootable CWM images. Don't use partitioning software. The NC is real finicky about how cards are burned. Look at my NC Tips thread and read item A9.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
Go to my NC partition repair thread linked in my signature and follow the procedures there.
Use SDFormatter free on the web for formatting your card before burning one of my bootable CWM images. Don't use partitioning software. The NC is real finicky about how cards are burned. Look at my NC Tips thread and read item A9.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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OK, so I used SD Formatter v3.1, size adjustment ON, Full Format (Erase)
Then I used win32diskimager v.7 with CWM-6.0.1.2-bootable_SD - still no boot.
Went back to SD Formatter, rinse, repeat.
Then I used win32diskimager v.1 r15 with same image - still DOA.
Anything I'm missing? I'm going to try 5.5.0.4 in the meantime, but I have my doubts that it will make a difference.
majorpay said:
OK, so I used SD Formatter v3.1, size adjustment ON, Full Format (Erase)
Then I used win32diskimager v.7 with CWM-6.0.1.2-bootable_SD - still no boot.
Went back to SD Formatter, rinse, repeat.
Then I used win32diskimager v.1 r15 with same image - still DOA.
Anything I'm missing? I'm going to try 5.5.0.4 in the meantime, but I have my doubts that it will make a difference.
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sometimes difficult, keep trying.
Edit, are you following advice in A9, like using external USB card reader?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
sometimes difficult, keep trying.
Edit, are you following advice in A9, like using external USB card reader?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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I'm running W8 on all my PCs (doubt that matters?)
Tried 5.5 - no luck.
Switched to a 512mb SD Card, no luck.
Switched to an external card reader (crap one), no luck.
Switched to using external reader without sd-microsd adapter, no luck.
Running out of options here. I gave my old Nook to my dad, so maybe I can go pick it up for sanity checking... I may try these cards in that one just to verify this isn't a full on hardware issue. That would seem strange and highly suspect given this just so happened to occur when I was attempting to install PA. If I can nail it down to that, I suspect it's somehow my fault, and I will need to replace it. If I can't, then I will need to buy a new CM 7 card from Ebay for the guy.
How do you own a Nook for years with never a single problem you couldn't fix, and the one time you touch someone else's, it goes all to hell?
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majorpay said:
I'm running W8 on all my PCs (doubt that matters?)
Tried 5.5 - no luck.
Switched to a 512mb SD Card, no luck.
Switched to an external card reader (crap one), no luck.
Switched to using external reader without sd-microsd adapter, no luck.
Running out of options here. I gave my old Nook to my dad, so maybe I can go pick it up for sanity checking... I may try these cards in that one just to verify this isn't a full on hardware issue. That would seem strange and highly suspect given this just so happened to occur when I was attempting to install PA. If I can nail it down to that, I suspect it's somehow my fault, and I will need to replace it. If I can't, then I will need to buy a new CM 7 card from Ebay for the guy.
How do you own a Nook for years with never a single problem you couldn't fix, and the one time you touch someone else's, it goes all to hell?
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brother what to tell you my nook color is also dead similarly since last 3 weeks.i also tried everything under the roof like bootable sd card.i also opened a topic in help section but did not get a single reply.i wrote to lepinllair also but even he does not know what to do . i miss my nook everyday. i appeal to nook community to please help us get out of this mess. i also get similar trying to search divers issue when attached to a laptop.also mine is getting charged fully .so i guess both of us have a similar issue. brother please let me know if you find solution .thankyou
majorpay said:
I'm running W8 on all my PCs (doubt that matters?)
Tried 5.5 - no luck.
Switched to a 512mb SD Card, no luck.
Switched to an external card reader (crap one), no luck.
Switched to using external reader without sd-microsd adapter, no luck.
Running out of options here. I gave my old Nook to my dad, so maybe I can go pick it up for sanity checking... I may try these cards in that one just to verify this isn't a full on hardware issue. That would seem strange and highly suspect given this just so happened to occur when I was attempting to install PA. If I can nail it down to that, I suspect it's somehow my fault, and I will need to replace it. If I can't, then I will need to buy a new CM 7 card from Ebay for the guy.
How do you own a Nook for years with never a single problem you couldn't fix, and the one time you touch someone else's, it goes all to hell?
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dajmaa said:
brother what to tell you my nook color is also dead similarly since last 3 weeks.i also tried everything under the roof like bootable sd card.i also opened a topic in help section but did not get a single reply.i wrote to lepinllair also but even he does not know what to do . i miss my nook everyday. i appeal to nook community to please help us get out of this mess. i also get similar trying to search divers issue when attached to a laptop.also mine is getting charged fully .so i guess both of us have a similar issue. brother please let me know if you find solution .thankyou
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Well looks like their is Three of Us. I have been trying to fix my daughters Nook Color for about 2 weeks now. I have tried 6 different sd cards, my internal card reader and 2 external ones. I have used every version of cw recovery and twrp i can find. I have tried alot of guides. At least the ones that the downloads are still there for.
Heres to pulling your hair out.
SHOOTEMUP2.0 said:
Well looks like their is Three of Us. I have been trying to fix my daughters Nook Color for about 2 weeks now. I have tried 6 different sd cards, my internal card reader and 2 external ones. I have used every version of cw recovery and twrp i can find. I have tried alot of guides. At least the ones that the downloads are still there for.
Heres to pulling your hair out.
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Well, here's what I can say (which may be saying nothing):
Back in the day when I had a BSOD on my old device, I was able to fix it by using TheCube's methods. I don't think he hangs around these parts anymore, but I know it was a specific sized SD card you had to have, and a pretty old version of CWR you were flashing onto the card. I remember there was only ONE version of win32diskimager that would work and it was one of the V 0.1 variants (r?). Technology has changed, people have come and gone, and this may mean absolutely squat now. I just know I had this problem on my old one and I was able to fix it that way.
All the links to those items are gone, all the files have been long since lost, and the server I used to use to house those files has long since become a thing of the past.
Maybe B&N has set trip-wires for the modding community in their "newer" revisions? I cut the red wire, and the whole thing blew up.
majorpay said:
Well, here's what I can say (which may be saying nothing):
Back in the day when I had a BSOD on my old device, I was able to fix it by using TheCube's methods. I don't think he hangs around these parts anymore, but I know it was a specific sized SD card you had to have, and a pretty old version of CWR you were flashing onto the card. I remember there was only ONE version of win32diskimager that would work and it was one of the V 0.1 variants (r?). Technology has changed, people have come and gone, and this may mean absolutely squat now. I just know I had this problem on my old one and I was able to fix it that way.
All the links to those items are gone, all the files have been long since lost, and the server I used to use to house those files has long since become a thing of the past.
Maybe B&N has set trip-wires for the modding community in their "newer" revisions? I cut the red wire, and the whole thing blew up.
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Story of my life. always a Dollar Short and a Day Late. Well in this case a couple years late.
leapinlar said:
sometimes difficult, keep trying.
Edit, are you following advice in A9, like using external USB card reader?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Leap... Have you tested these methods? If so, can you give me a lead as to which SD reader you used? I'm not above believing that the problem is the multiple readers I have (one is internal, the other is a Chinese plastic knock-off).
I was not able to get over to my parents house to test on their Nook yet.
majorpay said:
Leap... Have you tested these methods? If so, can you give me a lead as to which SD reader you used? I'm not above believing that the problem is the multiple readers I have (one is internal, the other is a Chinese plastic knock-off).
I was not able to get over to my parents house to test on their Nook yet.
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I use an external USB card reader made for micro SDs so I need no micro to SD adapter. A little red or grey one. I got it on eBay for $2. In fact, I bought several since they sometimes quit working. Then I use win32diskimager with no other windows open. Someone said they even had to update to the latest version (0.7, I think) from sourceforge. Any number of things could make it not boot. NCs can sometimes be very temperamental. But I have never had one I could not eventually get to boot to SD.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
I use an external USB card reader made for micro SDs so I need no micro to SD adapter. A little red or grey one. I got it on eBay for $2. In fact, I bought several since they sometimes quit working. Then I use win32diskimager with no other windows open. Someone said they even had to update to the latest version (0.7, I think) from sourceforge. Any number of things could make it not boot. NCs can sometimes be very temperamental. But I have never had one I could not eventually get to boot to SD.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Alright... Well here's where we are at this point:
Bought a Dynex 7 in 1 with specific port for MicroSD - burned v6 cwr bootable to 16GB SanDisc C4 SD using Laptop - Didn't work
Switched to main PC and burned 5.5 to 512mb Nokia C4 SD - didn't work.
Both were attempted with latest Win32DiskImager (.7) from SourceForge.
At this point, I'd lean towards a hardware failure, BUT... it's too coincidental that this occurred during a standard CWR install of a ROM. My understanding is that the Nook is supposed to ALWAYS check the SD slot prior to booting internally. Now whether there is a partition block that tells it to do this or not, I've never dug that far, but I'd have to say that this sure makes it look that way.
If that's the case, then the "unbrickable Nook" (which I once believed to be true) is a fairy tale. The fact that several others around here have met with the same fate, I'm almost inclined to believe it. I'm going to go on a hunt for the original files that fixed my first nook. If only I could remember what the heck I did with them.
Scratch that...
I found the files, but now I have an entirely different issue.
My copy of Win32DiskImager back then was very size specific, and although I have a copy of the 16gb_clockwork file I used back then, I can't burn it because Win32DI says the card isn't the right size..
Ugh... I'll keep you all posted.
majorpay said:
Alright... Well here's where we are at this point:
Bought a Dynex 7 in 1 with specific port for MicroSD - burned v6 cwr bootable to 16GB SanDisc C4 SD using Laptop - Didn't work
Switched to main PC and burned 5.5 to 512mb Nokia C4 SD - didn't work.
Both were attempted with latest Win32DiskImager (.7) from SourceForge.
At this point, I'd lean towards a hardware failure, BUT... it's too coincidental that this occurred during a standard CWR install of a ROM. My understanding is that the Nook is supposed to ALWAYS check the SD slot prior to booting internally. Now whether there is a partition block that tells it to do this or not, I've never dug that far, but I'd have to say that this sure makes it look that way.
If that's the case, then the "unbrickable Nook" (which I once believed to be true) is a fairy tale. The fact that several others around here have met with the same fate, I'm almost inclined to believe it. I'm going to go on a hunt for the original files that fixed my first nook. If only I could remember what the heck I did with them.
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It is possible that it is a hardware failure of the SD slot. Have you tried cleaning it? The booting to SD is built into the OMAP chip and is not effected by what you have in emmc. It automatically looks at the SD slot first to see if a bootable SD is there. But it looks for specific features of the SD found there to be sure it is bootable. If it is not bootable, it tries the emmc boot partition and if valid boot files are not there, it won't turn on.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Alright, I ended up flashing the old image I used on my last Nook with the same version of win32diskimager I used back then, and still no signs of life.
Unlike the previous issues I had on my first Nook, this one shows no signs of life. No backlit deep black that you can see in the dark, nothing. So I plugged it into my tower PC and held the power for 10 seconds. The install for the OMAP 36xx processor drivers went through the process, but when done, you could not find it in the device manager. So I held the power again for 10 seconds, it showed up for a second, then went away. I repeated this process several times, and same thing each time.
Just to make sure I wasn't leaping to assumptions, I unplugged it and plugged it back into the PC, and no response. Not until I held the power down for 10 seconds again.
So what can we conclude from this? Well, either it is normal for the Nook to show up for a split second on Windows, or the Nook is powering on, then down almost instantaneously. I'm inclined to believe the latter as ordinarily holding the power down for a few seconds wouldn't *reboot* the device, but instead, it would power it down, or power it up (if it was off). Also, unplugging and replugging it in to the PC should have activated the device driver if it was staying on (assuming that isn't a momentary thing on initial startup).
What's the missing piece of the puzzle? I don't know if it's the same for all the other users that have commented, but I don't have the original cable for this device, so I cannot fast charge. A dead Nook will power on, even if drained, when the fast charge cable is used (I believe?). This is something else I will have to try when I get my hands on my dad's Nook. Is it possible that a trickle charge doesn't work below a certain point?
This was kind of my thoughts back when this first occurred - that perhaps the Nook simply lost juice during the install.
Grasping at straws? Perhaps, but straws are all I'm seeing at this point.
majorpay said:
Alright, I ended up flashing the old image I used on my last Nook with the same version of win32diskimager I used back then, and still no signs of life.
Unlike the previous issues I had on my first Nook, this one shows no signs of life. No backlit deep black that you can see in the dark, nothing. So I plugged it into my tower PC and held the power for 10 seconds. The install for the OMAP 36xx processor drivers went through the process, but when done, you could not find it in the device manager. So I held the power again for 10 seconds, it showed up for a second, then went away. I repeated this process several times, and same thing each time.
Just to make sure I wasn't leaping to assumptions, I unplugged it and plugged it back into the PC, and no response. Not until I held the power down for 10 seconds again.
So what can we conclude from this? Well, either it is normal for the Nook to show up for a split second on Windows, or the Nook is powering on, then down almost instantaneously. I'm inclined to believe the latter as ordinarily holding the power down for a few seconds wouldn't *reboot* the device, but instead, it would power it down, or power it up (if it was off). Also, unplugging and replugging it in to the PC should have activated the device driver if it was staying on (assuming that isn't a momentary thing on initial startup).
What's the missing piece of the puzzle? I don't know if it's the same for all the other users that have commented, but I don't have the original cable for this device, so I cannot fast charge. A dead Nook will power on, even if drained, when the fast charge cable is used (I believe?). This is something else I will have to try when I get my hands on my dad's Nook. Is it possible that a trickle charge doesn't work below a certain point?
This was kind of my thoughts back when this first occurred - that perhaps the Nook simply lost juice during the install.
Grasping at straws? Perhaps, but straws are all I'm seeing at this point.
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I think what you are seeing is the device powering on with the screen off (like it normally does), looking for boot files in SD and emmc and when seeing none, immediately powering off. That is why the brief driver showing in windows. Ordinarily if it finds those boot files, it turns the screen on and continues the boot.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
I think what you are seeing is the device powering on with the screen off (like it normally does), looking for boot files in SD and emmc and when seeing none, immediately powering off. That is why the brief driver showing in windows. Ordinarily if it finds those boot files, it turns the screen on and continues the boot.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Bit the bullet and grabbed my dads. It's confirmed, the SD card I recently burned works - CWR booted right up. Now for the stock cable test.
Stock cable confirms that the Nook will not power up at all - cable is green indicating full charge. This Nook is toast - so just coincidence that it was during flashing PA? Hard to believe, but haven't I ruled every other possibility out?
EDIT - moved the cable and it turned orange. Coworker confirmed that his Nook charger he was using wouldn't even charge a phone I loaned him. May be on to something here. I'll wait until the cable turns green.
I'm done...
I'm beat. Cable turned green again, and no dice. This Nook is headed for the scrap pile (unless I get a wild hair and tear it apart to re-solder some joints).
majorpay said:
Stock cable confirms that the Nook will not power up at all - cable is green indicating full charge. This Nook is toast - so just coincidence that it was during flashing PA? Hard to believe, but haven't I ruled every other possibility out?
EDIT - moved the cable and it turned orange. Coworker confirmed that his Nook charger he was using wouldn't even charge a phone I loaned him. May be on to something here. I'll wait until the cable turns green.
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I went back to your OP and re-read. It is very common for an installation to screw up and lock up, leaving the boot partition borked. But usually the user can boot to a bootable CWM and re-flash and it repairs it. Ordinarily I would say that the slot could have been messed up for a long time too, since a lot of users have CWM on emmc and would not know it until they needed a bootable card. But in your case the slot was working right up till after you put CWM on emmc. And your using internal memory to flash the zip from and leaving the SD in the slot is usually of no consequence. But it is remotely possible since you left the SD in and the software was running amouk, that it did something to the SD and the slot, like overcurrents or some such nonsense. I still think the not booting from SD is a slot hardware issue since your card boots on other devices and the booting code is in chip firmware.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
Dead Nook Color
maurbrown said:
Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
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Maureen,
I had the same problem and resolved it easily.
1. View the video on how to replace the battery at NewPower99. The video is excellent and describes how to take the Nook apart and replace the battery.
2. Remove the back of the Nook after removing the two screws under the microSD cover. You will need a Torx 5 screwdriver to do this. The screwdriver isn't a very common one, but can be purchased from Sears. And it is not expensive.
3. After removing the back cover, do not remove the ten screws or complete the remainder of the disassembly.
4. The battery connector is the biggest connector on the left side of the Nook (Nook is face down andmicroSD card slot on the right hand side.) It has several red and black wire in the wire harness.
5. The main battery connector is a push on connector, so using a small, flat plastic anything, carefully pry the connector up. The connector has a "rubber bumper" glued to the top of it. Leave the bumper on the connector.
6. After the connector is lifted, leave the battery disconnected for around a half-hour or so.
7. Reattach the power connector by gently placing it over the connector and pushing down.
8. Before reattaching the back, power on the Nook to ensure it will reboot. If it does reboot, push the power button again for a half second or so to get the Nook into the sleep mode. DO NOT POWER OFF. I've done this twice now and learned to only put the Nook to sleep.
9. Replace the Nook rear cover. Don't forget to reinstall the two screws under the microSD cover.
10. Keep the Nook charged if possible. It doesn't have to remain on the charger all the time, but keep enough charge on it so it doesn't turn off.
You will find it is actually VERY easy to accomplish this.
I hope this works for you; it did for me.
maurbrown said:
Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
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Before you change the battery, see if a bootable SD will boot. You said you tried every solution, but did not mention that. The NC will not turn on unless it finds valid boot files either in internal boot or the SD boot.
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ohunter said:
Maureen,
I had the same problem and resolved it easily.
1. View the video on how to replace the battery at NewPower99. The video is excellent and describes how to take the Nook apart and replace the battery.
2. Remove the back of the Nook after removing the two screws under the microSD cover. You will need a Torx 5 screwdriver to do this. The screwdriver isn't a very common one, but can be purchased from Sears. And it is not expensive.
3. After removing the back cover, do not remove the ten screws or complete the remainder of the disassembly.
4. The battery connector is the biggest connector on the left side of the Nook (Nook is face down andmicroSD card slot on the right hand side.) It has several red and black wire in the wire harness.
5. The main battery connector is a push on connector, so using a small, flat plastic anything, carefully pry the connector up. The connector has a "rubber bumper" glued to the top of it. Leave the bumper on the connector.
6. After the connector is lifted, leave the battery disconnected for around a half-hour or so.
7. Reattach the power connector by gently placing it over the connector and pushing down.
8. Before reattaching the back, power on the Nook to ensure it will reboot. If it does reboot, push the power button again for a half second or so to get the Nook into the sleep mode. DO NOT POWER OFF. I've done this twice now and learned to only put the Nook to sleep.
9. Replace the Nook rear cover. Don't forget to reinstall the two screws under the microSD cover.
10. Keep the Nook charged if possible. It doesn't have to remain on the charger all the time, but keep enough charge on it so it doesn't turn off.
You will find it is actually VERY easy to accomplish this.
I hope this works for you; it did for me.
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Thank you!! I will try to boot from sd once more and then will try this and let you know how it goes.
leapinlar said:
Before you change the battery, see if a bootable SD will boot. You said you tried every solution, but did not mention that. The NC will not turn on unless it finds valid boot files either in internal boot or the SD boot.
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Hi! I actually followed some of your links and tried them. I want to try one last time - which of your links should I use? Maybe I did the wrong thing the other times. Thanks a lot.
maurbrown said:
Hi! I actually followed some of your links and tried them. I want to try one last time - which of your links should I use? Maybe I did the wrong thing the other times. Thanks a lot.
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For making the bootable SD go to my NC Tips thread and see item A9.
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leapinlar said:
For making the bootable SD go to my NC Tips thread and see item A9.
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Ok! I'm excited to give it a shot. Another question: if it doesn't work, should I try it with a different micro sd just in case it's not formatted properly or the image somehow didn't get on there exactly right? Thanks again.
maurbrown said:
Ok! I'm excited to give it a shot. Another question: if it doesn't work, should I try it with a different micro sd just in case it's not formatted properly or the image somehow didn't get on there exactly right? Thanks again.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Well, I tried the bootable SD and still no response, so then I changed the battery. Nothing. So I think I'm pretty much out of luck at this point. If you can think of anything else to try, please let me know.
Thanks for all the help,
Maureen
maurbrown said:
Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
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Quite upset, I had just set mine to run CM 10.1 and it was running great. And now I can't get it to start. I think maybe I caused it by tampering with the SD card on the PC and then putting it back in the NC. But even after putting it back as it was (partition inactive so it should boot from emmc as it had done just previous) I get no flash of light when holding in the power button.
Here's the gritty details of what happened with the SD card. I'd made eyeballer's 1gb boot card and enlarged the partition in mini tools to the full 8 gb, and backed up, flashed and updated a few times to emmc. The installation treats the SD card as "/sdcard", so in order to be able to cold boot emmc, I needed the SD card partition to be inactive. Minitools seems to apply the change (no error), but it was failing (partition was still active when retested). Diskpart also failed to reset it. So I backed up the SD card on the PC, reformatted it with SDformatter, and restored the content. As it happened, my PC restore process made it active again. But this time the partition was aligned at 1024, and Diskpart was able to mark it inactive. Used it in the Nookcolor for hours, it was working great. I was able to boot from emmc for both system and recovery. The SD card was serving as "/sdcard". Then I thought I'd like to set up another Nookcolor we have in the family. So I shut mine down, pulled the SD card, and went back to Diskpart and marked it Active. Put it back in my Nook and it failed to light up or start. Made it Inactive again and it still won't light up or start.
It had a nearly full charge before I messed with it. When I plug it in, the charger light is amber.
Sent from my HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc
Did you check the cord? Those nookie cords fail all the time u know, not very well made. You should get a new one online.
You use those stock nookie cables, not the custom ones or your nookie will not charge good. =)
Sherip said:
Quite upset, I had just set mine to run CM 10.1 and it was running great. And now I can't get it to start. I think maybe I caused it by tampering with the SD card on the PC and then putting it back in the NC. But even after putting it back as it was (partition inactive so it should boot from emmc as it had done just previous) I get no flash of light when holding in the power button.
Here's the gritty details of what happened with the SD card. I'd made eyeballer's 1gb boot card and enlarged the partition in mini tools to the full 8 gb, and backed up, flashed and updated a few times to emmc. The installation treats the SD card as "/sdcard", so in order to be able to cold boot emmc, I needed the SD card partition to be inactive. Minitools seems to apply the change (no error), but it was failing (partition was still active when retested). Diskpart also failed to reset it. So I backed up the SD card on the PC, reformatted it with SDformatter, and restored the content. As it happened, my PC restore process made it active again. But this time the partition was aligned at 1024, and Diskpart was able to mark it inactive. Used it in the Nookcolor for hours, it was working great. I was able to boot from emmc for both system and recovery. The SD card was serving as "/sdcard". Then I thought I'd like to set up another Nookcolor we have in the family. So I shut mine down, pulled the SD card, and went back to Diskpart and marked it Active. Put it back in my Nook and it failed to light up or start. Made it Inactive again and it still won't light up or start.
It had a nearly full charge before I messed with it. When I plug it in, the charger light is amber.
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The Nook Color is different that the Nook HD/HD+. It is much more temperamental about how the SD is formatted. It must be physically set up just right where the HD/HD+ is more liberal. See my NC Tips thread linked in my signature and look at item A9. You should not be messing with the partition with partition management software, particularly the active/inactive and alignment.
Can you still boot without the SD installed?
I have more information for you but need to know that answer first.
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I sent a long reply earlier and it looks like it didn't post
With no card I got low battery symbol. Plugged it in. Screen stayed black, not used to that, on CM7 it would light up on its own when booted. Pressed the n button, and got the CM 10 lock screen. It was up to 25% then, now its at 53%. Not supposed to run the eyeballer setup without an SD card, so I haven't tried interacting with it.
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Sherip said:
Not supposed to run the eyeballer setup without an SD card, so I haven't tried interacting with it.
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Why not? Some apps expect an SD to run properly, but there is nothing wrong with running CM10.1 without one.
If your emmc installation runs fine, your problems are because you were messing with that SD. With the NC it is best to make a small SD for your CWM card and put it away and save it for future use. Then use a different SD for use with CM10.1.
With the NC, if you have a bootable SD inserted without valid boot files on it, it turns on, but does not turn the screen on so to you it looks like it is off.
Your solution to your problem is do what I said above, have two SDs. And don't mess with them. You can get away with messing with the SD on a HD/HD+, but not the NC.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
Why not? Some apps expect an SD to run properly, but there is nothing wrong with running CM10.1 without one.
If your emmc installation runs fine, your problems are because you were messing with that SD. With the NC it is best to make a small SD for your CWM card and put it away and save it for future use. Then use a different SD for use with CM10.1.
With the NC, if you have a bootable SD inserted without valid boot files on it, it turns on, but does not turn the screen on so to you it looks like it is off.
Your solution to your problem is do what I said above, have two SDs. And don't mess with them. You can get away with messing with the SD on a HD/HD+, but not the NC.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Yes I think working with the HD series nooks made me overly confident yesterday lol
In my missing post I mentioned that it wouldn't boot from my CM7 SD card or a newly burned eyeballer 1gb image yesterday. Before the trouble I had seen my CM7 card boot after CM10.1 was on emmc. Now that the NC is working I'm nervous to shut it down at all or try booting from any SD.
Went out and when I came back the charger was green but the charge percentage said 90%. I switched to a different NC charger. Light stayed green and suddenly it switched from 90% to "charged". On my PC using a card reader, I sdformatted my SD card and did a straight copy paste of the previous folders, leaving off the root files associated with booting, ram disk and such and inserted it in the NC. Disconnected from power. Claimed to be at 100%.
Current readout is 93% and battery time is 28 min 30 sec.
I suppose its possible my battery is going bad. It was chronically plagued with "sleep of death" on CM 7.
I believe I'm running the CM 10.1 nightly of 7/25.
Edit: there are posts that claim you MUST have an SD card inserted to run the eyeballer system. If that's not true I might still need one because I had restored some apps with Titanium and some content had been written there. I think I used apptosd on some of them on sd-based-CM7 in an effort to use my space more efficiently.
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Sherip said:
In my missing post I mentioned that it wouldn't boot from my CM7 SD card or a newly burned eyeballer 1gb image yesterday. Before the trouble I had seen my CM7 card boot after CM10.1 was on emmc. Now that the NC is working I'm nervous to shut it down at all or try booting from any SD.
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My NC is completely back to normal, I've successfully booted using cards that didn't work while I was having trouble. Not sure if it was fixed because I pulled the card to boot emmc as suggested or because the battery got depleted and it went into another state. Either way I'm happy. For now I don't need a torx screwdriver or new battery.
Leapinlar, my eyeballer emmc setup uses an old version of cmw. Its 3.2.0.1. AFAICT it works fine but in other threads I've seen you recommend updated versions. Do you know what changed or improved, and whether my existing backups for stock and CM would be compatible?
Sent from my Nook Color Running CM 10.1 from emmc
Sherip said:
Leapinlar, my eyeballer emmc setup uses an old version of cmw. Its 3.2.0.1. AFAICT it works fine but in other threads I've seen you recommend updated versions. Do you know what changed or improved, and whether my existing backups for stock and CM would be compatible?
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The 3.2.0.1 is fine. The only real advantage the newer versions have is they allow backup and restore to internal memory. v5.5.0.4 makes and reads compatible backups with 3.2.0.1 if you choose to (3.2.0.1 is img only, 5.5.0.4 is img or tar). v6.0.1.2 makes a new backup format that is not compatible with 3.2.0.1 (tar or blobs). Therefore, I usually recommend 5.5.0.4 so you get internal backups and can read 3.2.0.1 backups.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.