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Touch HD - Day 1 - Questions

Ok.. so i wont bore you with my mock review until the end, so that I can get some questions out first : (Im coming from a Wizard)
1) In the wizard, I was able to click on telephone numbers in MOST applications and dial straight from there. Specifically the web browser. I would search for the name of a place, the first link in google would have the address and number, I would click on the number and be dialing. Im guessing this was a PIE thing, but wanted to see what the deal was
2) The most annoying thing so far, is my inability to highlight multiple items. In my Wizard, I was able to go to the email screen and if there were 8 messages there, I could press firmly into the first message, slide my finger down to the last message and click delete. I am not able to highlight multiple items, and ive tried different pressure settings etc. Help.
3) Similar to 2.... I am unable to highlight text, atleast with my finger, for coy paste purposes
4) I am not able to get the setting where face down will mute the ringer. Ive tried Diamond Tweak, manual registery editing, nothing. Face down... the phone will ring everytime
5) When someone sends me a youtube link in an email and I click on it, it takes me to the youtube page (im on edge so, slowly) but cant get the youtube video to play. It loads the page, except the video window
6) What is the ideal screen sensitivity and pressure settings in the registry. Its the one thing that im a bit surpsied by, I know it is not a capacitive screen, but it takes some getting used to how much pressure it requires compared to an iPhone screen for example
I will write about my impressions after two more days to give myself ample time to get used to it so there is no wizard bias... :0

taimoorhusain said:
6) What is the ideal screen sensitivity and pressure settings in the registry. Its the one thing that im a bit surpsied by, I know it is not a capacitive screen, but it takes some getting used to how much pressure it requires compared to an iPhone screen for example
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This is something I'd be particularly interested in .
Even though I use currently a phone with a capacitive screen I own a Wizard too. How would you say is the difference to the Wizard respectively how would you rate the sensitivity generally?

I'm answering to what I know...
2) The most annoying thing so far, is my inability to highlight multiple items. In my Wizard, I was able to go to the email screen and if there were 8 messages there, I could press firmly into the first message, slide my finger down to the last message and click delete. I am not able to highlight multiple items, and ive tried different pressure settings etc. Help.
In the message screen go to "Menu->Select->Some" then you will be able to select a group of items.
3) Similar to 2.... I am unable to highlight text, atleast with my finger, for coy paste purposes
This works for me!
5) When someone sends me a youtube link in an email and I click on it, it takes me to the youtube page (im on edge so, slowly) but cant get the youtube video to play. It loads the page, except the video window
This is due to lack of flsh support in Opera 9.5. You can play flash videos within CorePlayer.

chiccusmaximus said:
I'm answering to what I know...
2) The most annoying thing so far, is my inability to highlight multiple items. In my Wizard, I was able to go to the email screen and if there were 8 messages there, I could press firmly into the first message, slide my finger down to the last message and click delete. I am not able to highlight multiple items, and ive tried different pressure settings etc. Help.
In the message screen go to "Menu->Select->Some" then you will be able to select a group of items.
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Sweet.. I can live with that. Thanks
chiccusmaximus said:
5) When someone sends me a youtube link in an email and I click on it, it takes me to the youtube page (im on edge so, slowly) but cant get the youtube video to play. It loads the page, except the video window
This is due to lack of flsh support in Opera 9.5. You can play flash videos within CorePlayer.
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Yikes.. ok... blindsided by this one, so whats the roadmap on it?

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This is something I'd be particularly interested in .
Even though I use currently a phone with a capacitive screen I own a Wizard too. How would you say is the difference to the Wizard respectively how would you rate the sensitivity generally?
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I had an iPhone, gave it to my wife... the iphone screen is awesome, from day one, responsiveness, finger touch etc etc. The Wizard screen was ok, the feel wasnt there, but then again it wasnt big and i wasnt doing much with my finger anyway. Compared to the Wizard, the Touch HD is better, but since you are doing so much more on the screen and with your finger, it isnt as good as it needs to be. Twice the pressure is needed from the iphone, it doesnt "feel" good under my finger, feels like i have to fight against it to scroll the TF3D scroll thing (again comparing a resisitve screen to a capacitive one). Touch wise, it is excellent, I dont have to force buttons or anything. Im mainly complaining about gestures and TF3D. Overall finger friendliness, if the iphone is an 8, then the touch HD is a 6 and the wizard is a 4.

For 4: It can be done, I've been lurking around here for days now and I recall seeing an app that covers this exact thing - I *think* it's either SKTools or the Advanced Customisation Tool - I'm about to load up on or the other shortly, so if I find out I'll be back and let oyu know (if you haven't found it already in the meantime of course!)
6 : again I've seen some mention of registry setting alteerations to adjust this - but for me, I've used the same method as I did on my diamond and my screen is VERY sensitive - enough for me anyway.
Go and fire up the screen alignment process again - this time when doing it use the stylus and hover over the cross hair then very lightly rest it on the cross hair center - applying a tiny amount more pressure until it moves (it moves with a v. small amount of pressure) - seems to set pressure from this process to some extent. Whether or not this REALLY works, or it's utter placebo I truly dont know - but mine's totally fine and that's all I did Worth a shot I guess

The TouchFLO interface might mean that finger pressure always translates as scrolling, but if you want to select anything then you have to use a fingernail or the stylus. This is how it works on my Touch (Elf) - to scroll the screen I have to use the pad of my finger. If I use a more pointed pressure then I'm selecting stuff. I quite like this system - it differentiates between sweeping gestures and detailed touches.
Try using the stylus or a fingernail to select text or multiple emails. It might work.
(If it doesn't then I'll be annoyed too!)

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For 4: It can be done, I've been lurking around here for days now and I recall seeing an app that covers this exact thing - I *think* it's either SKTools or the Advanced Customisation Tool - I'm about to load up on or the other shortly, so if I find out I'll be back and let oyu know (if you haven't found it already in the meantime of course!)
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Yeah, I tried it all Schaps advanced config, Diamond tweak, Registery edits (havent tried SKtools yet) The option is there, in DIamond Tweak and in the registry. Jsut doesnt do anything...
blackb1ade said:
6 : again I've seen some mention of registry setting alteerations to adjust this - but for me, I've used the same method as I did on my diamond and my screen is VERY sensitive - enough for me anyway.
Go and fire up the screen alignment process again - this time when doing it use the stylus and hover over the cross hair then very lightly rest it on the cross hair center - applying a tiny amount more pressure until it moves (it moves with a v. small amount of pressure) - seems to set pressure from this process to some extent. Whether or not this REALLY works, or it's utter placebo I truly dont know - but mine's totally fine and that's all I did Worth a shot I guess
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Worth a shot.. did it.. nothing changed

I too would like to know if Opera can do what the OP wants in question 1?? That is one thing I love about my Iphone as it doesn't have a cut and paste but I can just click on the number in safari.
Can Opera do this? I was also looking at Skyfire today and was wondering if it did this and also when/if it will be available soon in the UK?

The select several option for email works.. so one problem down. Also ive realized that the screen sensitivity is just something I will have to get used to.
I have installed Flash Lite 3.1 for you tube and it seems to be working fine.
More updates as I have em. Anyone know why number links arent clickable in the browser?

Good thread, clears some things up.
I wonder how the pressure thing is.
How does it compare to an Elf (my current/old device) for example?
My HD should be in the mail tomorrow, but you never know with TNT mail.

I think its one of those things... you jsut need to get used to it...

Browsing Issue - Hyperlink Selection

I'm very pleased with my HD2 overall, but there's one area where it comes up short in comparison to the iPhone imo: in the default zoomed out browser page view, if you click on a link (which is small, but it does briefly change colour so you know the press has registered), nothing happens - I have to zoom in (with a pinch or double press) before it will work. This is the case in both Opera and IE.
Is there by any chance a config hack to sort this? I'm new to Windows Mobile, perhaps it's a known weakness? Because the link does highlight it makes me think this is more of a software issue than a hardware one, so ought to be fixable/hackable?
Thanks,
Andy

AndyGarton said:
I'm very pleased with my HD2 overall, but there's one area where it comes up short in comparison to the iPhone imo: in the default zoomed out browser page view, if you click on a link (which is small, but it does briefly change colour so you know the press has registered), nothing happens - I have to zoom in (with a pinch or double press) before it will work. This is the case in both Opera and IE.
Is there by any chance a config hack to sort this? I'm new to Windows Mobile, perhaps it's a known weakness? Because the link does highlight it makes me think this is more of a software issue than a hardware one, so ought to be fixable/hackable?
Thanks,
Andy
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when i go to google.nl and its zoomed out, i click on the right upper side to log in/sign in, so for me this aint no issue.

Just one bump in case anybody else has any thoughts (I appreciate that this isn't an issue for the poster above, but it is for me ).

You can search the forum for a solution (it was posted dozens of times across the place). You'll need to change zoom settings to achieve what you want.
Just note that you'll lose something as well. The current behavior allows you to activate onHover events (stuff that websites do when you move your mouse over an element). With default settings you get popups/menus activated without firing the link action (an option missing in the iPhone browser).

Yes, I'm having the same problem from time to time. Sometimes I can hit tiny targets and sometimes I have to zoom right in to hit a link. I guess it's just a matter of getting used to the capacitive screen.

mrturq said:
when i go to google.nl and its zoomed out, i click on the right upper side to log in/sign in, so for me this aint no issue.
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Thanks, I found the registry setting (software,opera,info,az_overview_threshold), reduced it to 32 and haven't noticed any obvious side effects yet. This makes a big difference for me, especially when I set the minimum font size to medium in the menu settings.

Typing Lag and cursor jumping around while typing?

Anyone have this issue? I literally cant even type this post without having to go back and correct everything...Cursor jumps back mid sentence a lot and inputs words accidently etc...does overclocking fix this issue? Can I overclock if already on 3.1?
Thanks!

i have a terrible time typing on webforms.

do you have the dock ? if so turn off the trackpad using the 4th button from the top left
this works a treat making the cursor stay where it damn should, you have to go back to jabbing the screen but it means pain free inputing when you need to.

psufan5 said:
Anyone have this issue? I literally cant even type this post without having to go back and correct everything...Cursor jumps back mid sentence a lot and inputs words accidently etc...does overclocking fix this issue? Can I overclock if already on 3.1?
Thanks!
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Same issue here

i have the same typing lag problem with the stock browser then i switched to dolphin hd browser and the problem solved.

trackpad thing didnt work... still jumped. I am using dolphi hd also and its having lag as well... annoying to say the least.

For this forum change the theme to classic. It fixes the lag completely.
USER CP _ setting

transceiver said:
For this forum change the theme to classic. It fixes the lag completely.
USER CP _ setting
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toshii22 said:
i have the same typing lag problem with the stock browser then i switched to dolphin hd browser and the problem solved.
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Not for me. Nothing has helped. It's not just here, it typing an any webform anywhere on the web. It might be slightly better in some places but it never goes away. I went to the mall and tested 3 other brand tablets yesterday and none had this problem.

Touch the screen, wait for mouse to dissapear to start typing.

I use SwiftKey keyboard and I can barely see any lag, and the predictions are the best.

psufan5 said:
Anyone have this issue? I literally cant even type this post without having to go back and correct everything...Cursor jumps back mid sentence a lot and inputs words accidently etc...does overclocking fix this issue? Can I overclock if already on 3.1?
Thanks!
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I am having the exact same issue. I have tried the stock browser and Firefox. I'm running android 4.0 ICS (it came with that upgrade). I mainly use it without the dock attached, so that can't be an issue.
Overall it is very laggy for typing and starting to type into text fields. I have to click then wait several seconds before typing and randomly while typing, it will get "backed up" and characters will stop appearing for a moment.
Generally I can type okay without the cursor jumping around...that is, unless I make a mistake and want to go back and fix it. Then trying to point the cursor at the right letter is nearly impossible because it jumps all over while dragging (and just doing one single tap makes the cursor go in unpredictable spots). Even if I get it to the right spot I can only type one letter then the next letters will start type at the bottom / end of the text field.
I realize this thread is old, did anybody get to the bottom of this?

N7 kinetic scrolling/pointer location- horrible

This thread was originally pointing out the bad kinetic scrolling for chrome only, but now it seems more than app based. Chrome just seems to handle it worse.
Go into settings > dev options > turn on pointer location. Now start scrolling around anywhere and everywhere. I used the launcher, Chrome, maps, Falcon pro, calendar.
Blue line - the actual point of contact?
Pink line - ??
Purple line - some sort of predictive line? Maybe uses an algorithm based on your actual touch to guess any pre-touch contact and post-touch path?
The PURPLE line goes nuts! It is constantly hooking backwards in the direction where I came from. My paths are always curved, and in many circumstances hook back to form the shape of a jagged pubic hair or a fishing hook. I think this hook is causing a LOT of stuttery, jittery scrolling. Is this happening to anyone else?
Seems like some apps may minimize the hooking such as maps or calender, and other apps follow the full hook and mess up such as chrome. However I can't be sure if it's just in my head or if there really is anything app-based.
This does NOT happen on my Nexus 4.
Anyone know what I'm talking about? Is his happening to anyone else? I can post some pointer pictures tomorrow.

Surely someone else has noticed this before? Seems like a huge deal. I have 2 Nexus 7's in my possession (an original device and a new replacement) and both do this exactly the same way.

I can find no evidence of your troubles. 2 screen shots attached from Chrome one, a diagonal scroll and the other a 2 finger pinch to zoom. Try my example page scan.co.uk

Cursor and Dialog Box icons glitch faulty incorrect

Hi Everyone,
Recently my phone was updated to Android v7 and since then I noticed that the icons for the cursor in text boxes and system dialog boxes have got messed up.
I read on Android central, one user posted that uninstalling Kaspersky fixed the issue, although in my case I don't have Kaspersky, so I can't go about uninstalling all apps, got a hell lot of them!
1drv.ms/i/s!AigR1NGUKZ2stFWGsf_bkkIg_WEa
1drv.ms/i/s!AigR1NGUKZ2stFa4-NP8jEiQCuMs
1drv.ms/i/s!AigR1NGUKZ2stFRZcp6bHn6VE_JE
It's frustrating everytime i see this... Please help me...

I think I'm having a similar issue... the cursor locator (below the cursor which points to it) is the wrong size. I tried changing resolutions, nothing fixed it. This also happens when text is selected by long pressing, the selector graphics are too large and it gets cut off. It was working fine when phone was new, I cannot remember at which point it started messing up. Possibly after Oculus VR first changed the screen resolution to WQHD? I set it back to FHD for normal use, but problem persists.
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G930f
G930FXXU1DQD7 BTU firmware
phone not rooted

jivenene said:
I think I'm having a similar issue... the cursor locator (below the cursor which points to it) is the wrong size. I tried changing resolutions, nothing fixed it. This also happens when text is selected by long pressing, the selector graphics are too large and it gets cut off. It was working fine when phone was new, I cannot remember at which point it started messing up. Possibly after Oculus VR first changed the screen resolution to WQHD? I set it back to FHD for normal use, but problem persists.
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G930f
G930FXXU1DQD7 BTU firmware
phone not rooted
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Maybe found a clue.... this problem seems to occur everywhere, except in a few apps, namely Signal and FB Messenger and FB itself. I thought it might be only in Gapps, but it happens in a few apps that are not part of Gapps. I have seen other people had issues with the little on/off sliders for options in different menu screens under setting, but mine all look fine.

jivenene said:
Maybe found a clue.... this problem seems to occur everywhere, except in a few apps, namely Signal and FB Messenger and FB itself. I thought it might be only in Gapps, but it happens in a few apps that are not part of Gapps. I have seen other people had issues with the little on/off sliders for options in different menu screens under setting, but mine all look fine.
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I have those glitches as well apart from what i posted.
I read online its because of some app messing things up. I seriously don't want to reset and start testing this out one app at a time. It will take at least a few days to get back up to speed.
Thanks :crying: