[Q] couple questions from WM6.5 user(new at this) - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

Hello guys im thinking to switch to WM7 cause my stock TMobile WM6.5 is makin my battary drain so fast that i lose about 10-15% per hour with nothing working and i think it got bugged and i did couple of hard rests and nothing helped
1)how i change my OS system?
2)will i be able to get back to WM 6.5 after its done?
3)if i hard rest the phone with WM7 what will happen
4)what is the best version is out there? i dont want to get bricked or something is there diffrence between T-mo HD2 getting WM7 then the international?

1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478
2) you can flash WM6.5 at anytime
3) If you hard reset it with WP7, it's the same as WM6.5
4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180857

what u mean flash? like in the PC i can choose which OS i want like XP or Win7 on start up?

No, if you want WM6.5 you need to flash WM6.5 ROM and you will loose WP7, you can use only one OS.

then what is dual boot? i heard about it in here can i do it? like have WM 6.5 on normal and put WP7 on the SD card or its something else?

SnakeBites said:
then what is dual boot? i heard about it in here can i do it? like have WM 6.5 on normal and put WP7 on the SD card or its something else?
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The dual boot is for WP7/Android Only.
So you would need to start over any time you "flash" WP7 or WM 6.5. you can still use a live account to sync calendar and contacts on both so you want have to put them in every time.
you will need a live.com account and an activation key for WP7(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921309)
it will only take you a few minutes to go back or forth.

you also have the ability to "dual boot" WM6.5 and Android by installing an SD Android ROM to your SD card. This is usually done by downloading a file and putting the Android folder to the root of your SD card, tapping on Clrcad and then on HaRET (Check the instructions given by the Chef for your chosen build(ACA is good))
Voila you are dual booting and can check your battery.
I suspect you may need a new battery anyway

ok so there is no chance that WP7 would be like this??
and tthe battary is good cause when i put my phone off( disabling all wireless connection) battary drain get back to normal like when i had it new

SnakeBites said:
ok so there is no chance that WP7 would be like this??
and tthe battary is good cause when i put my phone off( disabling all wireless connection) battary drain get back to normal like when i had it new
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Nope, i dont think there is enough intrest in it, i personally would love for WP/WM combo but Androids have taken over the forum
there was talking a while back that magldr could get WP and WM booting together but only on 1024MB HD2s, (TMOUS) what we would need is WM running from SD card which then gets loaded in to RAM, intrestingly WM2003se used something similar but i think WM5+ needed non volitile storage.

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[Tutorial]Beginner Android setup

Hey, since there is many requests for how to setup the android on you'r HD2, i was thinking "why dont i make one?" So here it is.
PS!!! My english is not the greatest.
First download this radio if you dont have it (recomended): 2.10.50.08_2
And install it, boot up you'r HD2. A stable ROM is also recomended.
Second download one of the builds from: Here
Third: Clear you'r SD card (Only if you have a low mb sd card) You dont really have to, but if you do, u might get some smoother speed.
Four: Extract the build you downloaded to you'r desktop on you computer and Copy the files inside the folder you extracted to. ALL files. and past them into you SD card. (VIA USB) once done, unplug you'r usb cable. (If u choosed the froyo build, just put the whole android folder to the root of you'r card)
Five: Disable the auto backlight in the WM first before you start android, Select file explorer on you'r HD2 (or simular programs) And go into you'r SD card Run clrcad (for the sound, If nothing happends, dont worry, dont supposed to) and run Haret. Then after the build has booted, plug you'r USB cable in you'r HD2 again (Android drains battery atm).
Six: Enjoy!
Note: If you'r screen turns black, turn off auto backlight. If it's still black, change radio. AND!!! This dont kills you'r winmo.
I'm non genius but i made this to help you guys.
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Cheers!
Hi,
Thanks for the info but I have done all that without the radio update. I'm running a stock vodafone ROM. I manage to get the haret launched and all the code scrolling but then the screen just fades to black and doen't finish the boot up... Is it the lack of the radio update doing this?? I'm not very clued in on this stuff.
Cheers!
FreddernLFC said:
Third: Clear you'r SD card (i did, dont know if it's recomended)
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No need to clear your SD card (I never did). It does make it easier to switch between builds, though, since you can just delete everything and copy over the next one you want to try.
chazzerchops said:
Is it the lack of the radio update doing this?? I'm not very clued in on this stuff.
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Yes, most likely. What you're reporting sounds like what other people had before they installed a compatible radio.
Just want to add:
1. depends on the build, you have to extract the content to SD based on the instruction. (for example, the Froyo build you have to extract all files to a folder named "android" at the root of SD)
2. Must disable the auto backlight in the WM first, else you will some times get the "black screen". If you look carefully or under strong light, you'll still see things on screen, there is just no back light.
2. Run clrcad before Haret to get the sound working.
Cheers Meptik
I am looking to update the radio version... it that like doing the full ROM thing, in that it will re-set everything to factory default? Or is the radio update not as 'back to square one' on the phone as doing the ROM?
chazzerchops said:
Cheers Meptik
I am looking to update the radio version... it that like doing the full ROM thing, in that it will re-set everything to factory default? Or is the radio update not as 'back to square one' on the phone as doing the ROM?
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Updating only the radio shouldn't reset your HD2 to factory default, unless perhaps if you flash it using a stock ROM Update Utility.
Use the radio that FreddernLFC links to from the first post; it includes a CustomRUU, which should flash the radio to your HD2 without restoring it to factory defaults.
Hmmm.. will have another look at it. Ran through the updater and 5mins into it it errored so had to go through the recover process. I'll try again later. Cheers
meptik said:
No need to clear your SD card (I never did). It does make it easier to switch between builds, though, since you can just delete everything and copy over the next one you want to try.
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Mine didn't work with stuff on my 8Gb card so I copied the whole card to my PC, reformatted the card, copied over the Android stuff and it then worked. I the copied all the back up stuff back and Android stopped working (tty error).
green screen
what do i do if i get a green screen...i ran haret..now i see a green screen
psn1819 said:
what do i do if i get a green screen...i ran haret..now i see a green screen
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Take out the battery and start up again, I've got many green screens, but after some tryes it went perfect
psn1819 said:
what do i do if i get a green screen...i ran haret..now i see a green screen
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You try again. Common issue.
Hi Everyone, just wanted to add a few things. i would recommend you turn off sense from the device, then power off the device, once it powers on again go straight to your file explorer and run the process. you should notice the cursor at the bottom blink at a slower pace, if its in hyper mode the system will crash. it has been helping me, hopes this helps to all
what is this hyper mode what causes it i had to down gade my radio to 2.10.50.26 to get rid of the super fast un usableness of the 2.12.50.xx but i did like my 2.12.50.xx radio wish there was a way to make it work with that radio
FreddernLFC said:
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Five: Disable the auto backlight in the WM first before you start android, Select file explorer on you'r HD2 (or simular programs) And go into you'r SD card Run clrcad (for the sound, If nothing happends, dont worry, dont supposed to) and run Haret. Then after the build has booted, plug you'r USB cable in you'r HD2 again (Android drains battery atm).
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how fast android drains battery ?
sev15 said:
what is this hyper mode what causes it i had to down gade my radio to 2.10.50.26 to get rid of the super fast un usableness of the 2.12.50.xx but i did like my 2.12.50.xx radio wish there was a way to make it work with that radio
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i assume u can carry on 2.12.50.xx ? dont need to downgrade .. as long as its a .50 radio it shld be fine and pretty new shld be alright .. am i right guys ?
i jus downloaded the desirrev4 build. so i just have to extract all files into the root storage card ? then run clrcad before haret and thats it ?
may i check , does this kills my existing wm rom ? how to switch back to my original wm ? i have read this is a kind of multi boot method . apologies for noob questions .. would appreciate if someone can advice. thanks !
pool7979 said:
i jus downloaded the desirrev4 build. so i just have to extract all files into the root storage card ? then run clrcad before haret and thats it ?
may i check , does this kills my existing wm rom ? how to switch back to my original wm ? i have read this is a kind of multi boot method . apologies for noob questions .. would appreciate if someone can advice. thanks !
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winmo still remains there but sometimes you might need to hard reset
just switch off the phone in android or take out the battery and reboot, you are on win mo again.
good luck
How long does it spend? Because I am waiting for a long time.
thihaz said:
winmo still remains there but sometimes you might need to hard reset
just switch off the phone in android or take out the battery and reboot, you are on win mo again.
good luck
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thanks man !!! cool .. i have just installed android .. but i choose the sense interface. i noticed our hard buttons are not suppose to work right ? and do we have to run clrd and haret everytime we wanna start android ?
on regards to installations of android software, they will be on storage card ?
for the bro above, my running of andoid was fast .. i think less than 5 mins .. after haret, i see many words scrolling .. very fast .. then the next moment , it loads into android and will ask u what interface u want .
vdesire v5 out

[Q] Please... Can somebody help me to 'get rid of' Android on my phone...?

As the headline says: I want to remove, or go back to WM, but without deleting everything and go back to scratch... I have some appointments that I want to save, and that I don't have anywhere else... (I can't find them now that Android is running...)
Please, please help me...
(Could the software make my appointments disappear?
Can somebody see if these software information is 'correct':
OS Version
5.2.23138
Manila version
2.5.20183025.0
ROM version
18.Sep.2010 WWE
Radio version
2.07.51.22_2
Protocol version
15.32.50.07U
Just reboot your phone.
reboot? as in turning it off and on? It doesn't work... And neither does taking the battery out.... Sorry, my english is very bad, so I don't know what reboot is, or how I do it... Thnx...
kjessa_83 said:
reboot? as in turning it off and on? It doesn't work... And neither does taking the battery out.... Sorry, my english is very bad, so I don't know what reboot is, or how I do it... Thnx...
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you've posted in four threads that you can't get back to windows. If you shut the phone down and power on again, its simply not believable that you can't get into windows. if you are using an auto bootloader, then it should at least briefly give you an option to boot into windows. so, are you using an autoboot program?
If you happened to install a rom that autoboots android, (I'm guessing, can't see any other reason why a reboot wouldn't work), try turning off your phone, taking out the sdcard, then booting it up.
I'm sorry, but I don't know what to do... There's so many things that doesn't work.. That's why I posted it so many places... I don't know if I am using an autoboot program or not.. I followed the instructions from Youtube that everybody were positive about. And no, I don't get the option to boot into windows when I reboot the phone..
Android boots from your SD card so justtake it out and reboot phone and android wont load up.
Once in there you can uninstall the autoboot or flash a new version of windows or whatever you need to do.
No, that didn't work either... I thought it was very strange, because I heard about people who switched between android and wm... So I don't know what's wrong...
kjessa_83 said:
No, that didn't work either... I thought it was very strange, because I heard about people who switched between android and wm... So I don't know what's wrong...
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If you take the SD card out like others had suggested and turn your phone off and on, Android won't boot as it runs off the SD card (for the time bing anyway).
No SD card = No Android
kjessa_83 said:
No, that didn't work either... I thought it was very strange, because I heard about people who switched between android and wm... So I don't know what's wrong...
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If after removing SD card and rebooting you still boot into Android, then you either :
1. have a NAND version of Android (not sure if that's even available now)
2. have an Android phone (top part of Evo looks like Leo)
Sorry, but my SDcard is on the table, and Android is still running... What have I done...?
like i said, you either have :
1. NAND version of Android (not sure if this is even available)
or 2. an actual Android phone (top part of Evo looks like Leo)
kjessa_83 said:
Sorry, but my SDcard is on the table, and Android is still running... What have I done...?
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Did the youtube video you watched, ask you to flash a new WM rom. Are you sure your not mistaking your new WM rom as android, as it possibly looks different to your original ROM (which if you havnt backed up your data, you've already lost those appointments)
I suggest you watch a video of andriod, and see if it looks the same as your phone.
If it does, and your phone is definetily a HD2 Leo, and Android is running, Do you know anybody that goes by the name of Cotulla?....lol.
MaxSense modification for sense is an Android like interface.
I have neither NAND version nor Android phone...
kjessa_83 said:
As the headline says: I want to remove, or go back to WM, but without deleting everything and go back to scratch... I have some appointments that I want to save, and that I don't have anywhere else... (I can't find them now that Android is running...)
Please, please help me...
(Could the software make my appointments disappear?
Can somebody see if these software information is 'correct':
OS Version
5.2.23138
Manila version
2.5.20183025.0
ROM version
18.Sep.2010 WWE
Radio version
2.07.51.22_2
Protocol version
15.32.50.07U
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Are these settings showing on your phone Under settings / about phone / software information?? If so you are in WM, not Android. And sorry to say you have lost your appointments, unless you backed them up using PIM backup or something similiar, which im guessing from this thread you didn't.
Just by looking at this Ive determined that the OP doesnt really know what he is doing at all. The software information that he posted indicates he flashed a custom WM rom (probably energy) and thinks its android.
kjessa_83: You are running a custom version of WM, NOT android!! If you want to go back to the original rom, I suggest you find the official rom, and flash that. Btw, if you cant tell the difference between WM and android, maybe you shouldnt be messing around with the phone...
The folder that I copied to my SDcard is called Android, so how come it's WM?
bobmarsh72 said:
Did the youtube video you watched, ask you to flash a new WM rom. Are you sure your not mistaking your new WM rom as android, as it possibly looks different to your original ROM (which if you havnt backed up your data, you've already lost those appointments)
I suggest you watch a video of andriod, and see if it looks the same as your phone.
If it does, and your phone is definetily a HD2 Leo, and Android is running, Do you know anybody that goes by the name of Cotulla?....lol.
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Cotulla? huh, why?
It's for sure that I don't know what I'm doing... But I thought that if I did what "autotradeking" did in his video, I wouldn't do anything wrong...??

[Q] HELP PLs I can't INsTAll AnDRoid On my HD2!

I can't install android on my hd2 I already installed HSLP3 2.08 also running energy rom
manilla version 2.5.20191914.0
radio 2.12.50.02_2
OS version 5.2.23148
Ive tried so many android builds some times when i run it the little android white letters appear as it should but there shrunk and appear at the left top cornerof my phon ive only been able to run it twice and android worked bt after a reboot it went back to the htc screen for hours and never was able to get it started pls someone pls help me ive been trying to slove this proble for weeks bt haven't been able to solve it please some help me!
format your sd card then try again. or flash different rom like chuckydroid or vbnrom.
ive tried that too no results
hello
iabf said:
ive tried that too no results
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energy rom is just fine, try 2.12.50.xxx radio, donwload the android build you want and unzip to desktop on pc, grab android folder and place on root of your sd...... you cant always use the android bootloader on this WM rom unless you edit the startup on android build...... on WM go to start>tools>file explorer> make sure keypads lights are on and hit CLRCAD first, then hit HARET and just let it go all the way, some builds take longer on first boot cuz data.img is being created so wait bout 5-10-15 min ........ dont forget to turn off auto backlights on WM before doing all this.. good luck...
Maybe a change back to HSPL2 would help..
Do you happen do have extended battery?
ive done tha many times bt it just goes into these really small letters at the left top corner of tha phone it doesn't load up like other android boots ive seen and it goes to htc screen what culd it bcuz it never loads up after hours
hello
iabf said:
ive done tha many times bt it just goes into these really small letters at the left top corner of tha phone it doesn't load up like other android boots ive seen and it goes to htc screen what culd it bcuz it never loads up after hours
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ok, start all over again.... download and do task29, reinstall your energy rom upgrade radio again, apply settings i gave you and try to boot again..... let me know how it goes
What type of sd card are you using, try a different sd card... That eliminates the sd card as the culprit.
I have the original 16gb sd card that comes with the phon and im sure its not corrupted bcuz it works great
can u explain a little better what kenel and linux is or if i hve to update tha too i really dont undestand what that really is?
matutemhn said:
energy rom is just fine, try 2.12.50.xxx radio, donwload the android build you want and unzip to desktop on pc, grab android folder and place on root of your sd...... you cant always use the android bootloader on this WM rom unless you edit the startup on android build...... on WM go to start>tools>file explorer> make sure keypads lights are on and hit CLRCAD first, then hit HARET and just let it go all the way, some builds take longer on first boot cuz data.img is being created so wait bout 5-10-15 min ........ dont forget to turn off auto backlights on WM before doing all this.. good luck...
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Hey Ill be installing android soon when I get back my phone from warranty, and I dont know what auto backlights are(my motherlanguage isnt english) and how to turn them off?
Can you tell me?
Also explain if it is a hd2 with 320mb ram
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
OK i got Mdeejay_FroYo_HD_v._3.7 to work on my phon but it sais it cannot connet to the internet does anybody know what files i should change or how can i fix this? pls help
InterNet ExpLorer dont work on android how can i fix this?
i got Mdeejay_FroYo_HD_v._3.7 to work on my hd2 but everytime i trie to go to the internet it says there is no connection avaliable how can i fix this ploblem pls someone help?
This is what i did
I flashed the newest hard spl i think it is number 3.0 and changed the radio to 2.12.50 and after i put energy rom on it what will upgrade my ram to 570 or something. I am very happy with that rom very fast and stable. Now im using FroyoStone Sense - V3.2][Kernel: linux_on_wince_htc 2.6.32.15] from darkstone.
Im sorry for all the winmo 6.5 hardcore users. I tweaked and played with it for a time now. But now im using froyo from my sd card (very fast and stable) I want nothing else. I hope there will be a rom soon so i can cook a android rom on my hd2 leo. I think the biggest reason for me is the amount of good quality apps.
Peace out.

[Q] Problem about my HTC HD2 ???

Hello there
I bought htc hd2 second hand with windows 6.5 installed on it, but i did not like it so i followed some tutorial here in how to install android. i did that and i never been happier, however i was surprised when i run out of buttery and my device shutdown then recharge it and turn it on there was windows again and i had to do all the process again to lunch android system which drove me crazy because all the app's i already downloaded and installed on SD card were not working any more ...
So i have a few questions hopefully someone can help:
1. Is there any way i can uninstall windows from my HTC HD2 permanently and replace it with Android ?
2. If not How can i help my app's from getting lost?
3. what is the best way to back up my files and data before doing any thing new to my device?
4. since i am new to this system can any one explain to me what is the different between android, mglader and nand ? and what is latest version of Android?
You´ve installed SD Android? If so, you don´t need to install it every time your phone reboots. Just go into your android folder on SD card and run clrcard and than Haret. After that your phone will boot Android. So your data probabaly weren´t erased.
And for fourth question: Android is operating system, just like WM. For HD2 there are two types of Android - for SD and NAND. SD keeps your WM in phone. You don´t do anything to the phone, so you don´t loose warranty. But is little less responsive. This version I reccommend for those, who aren´t sure if they want Android 100%.
Than there is NAND which replace WM on internal memory. It´s more risky ´cause you need to install HSPL and different loader (MAGLDR or cLK) and there is possibility that you will brick your phone. And if sending phone to service in warranty time, you should restore the previous state - install normal SPL and WM instead of android. So it´s up to you which metod you choose
Thank you very much, you do not know how much that was helpful and i think i will go with the risky option but you still haven't answered my 3rd question about back up my data ??
Don.Meero said:
Thank you very much, you do not know how much that was helpful and i think i will go with the risky option but you still haven't answered my 3rd question about back up my data ??
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Titanium backup from Android market.
Search the forums for the HD2 toolkit. It makes installing Nand Android quite simple. I think you will find that you get better performance and battery life with the Nand version of android as opposed to the SD version.
Thank you guys
Thank you Guys i never been happier with my HTC HD2 working with NAND Android it's awesome
Thanks Thanks Thanks

[Q][Solved] Dual boot WinMo6.5 and Android

Hello everybody !
First off, I apologize for my bad english !
I only have a little question : is it possible to install both WinMob6.5 and Android in NAND, or is it required to install Android on SD card ?
I searched all around the board, but I didn't find any satisfying answer (maybe I didn't search very well)
Thanks for reading!
If you want to keep Windows Mobile, and have Android, you'll need to run Android from SD. You can only have one OS on NAND at a time.
Sent from phone
You can not run 2 OS from NAND, so its not possible.
Tanks for your anserws, I will run Android from my SD !
Hi all, I have a smiliar issue regarding WM 6.5 and Android.
I haven't got a clue about flashing the ROM or rooting the phone but my SPL version when I bought the HD2 was already 3.03. I installed Gingerbread 2.3 on the SD Card and it was all running fine but if I power off or reboot my phone it switches back to WM 6.5 which I don't want to happen.
Is there a way to prevent it or have I done something wrong/missed a step?
Thanks for any help.
You can use a WinMo bootloader, like this one. If you are not interested in flashing Windows Phone 7 or NAND Android, it's the best option.
You can prevent switches almost completely (no winmo, but 3 seconds of magldr) by installing magldr, but I don't think that you want it. It doesn't have any sense when you just want to have SD Android.
ANichols24 said:
Hi all, I have a smiliar issue regarding WM 6.5 and Android.
I haven't got a clue about flashing the ROM or rooting the phone but my SPL version when I bought the HD2 was already 3.03. I installed Gingerbread 2.3 on the SD Card and it was all running fine but if I power off or reboot my phone it switches back to WM 6.5 which I don't want to happen.
Is there a way to prevent it or have I done something wrong/missed a step?
Thanks for any help.
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There are two ways to run android:
- SD card
- flashing android in NAND
if you choose the first option, you have to start android from your SD card.
when you reboot your phone, WM will start. i believe you chose this option.
the second one replaces WM completely! (there are ways to change it back if you dont wanna have this anymore)
if you start your phone, android will boot instead of WM.
there are different ROMs for the 2 options you have. just have a look in the forums:
SD ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
NAND ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
just follow this tutorial if you wanna replace WM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
there is a big FAQ thread for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905841
Good luck, its not that hard.
prexx
Thanks for your help guys. I've watched the video and it seems fairly straight forward to install the NAND Android as I want WM gone completely.
Very much appreciated to a newbie at this sort of thing!

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