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Jumped the samsung ship

After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.

paid full price for a dx??

Okay?
It'll probably be out soon you know.. lots of Galaxy S phones are getting one way or another now. Were bound to get an official release soon. Good luck with the DX.
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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Hate to see you go. But thanks for the good wishes.

I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol

bomber889 said:
I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I did the same. Running gingerbread now. And to the op- how does a locked bootloader= support from motorola?
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bomber889 said:
I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I played with both the Fascinate and the Incredible while at best buy. The Fascinate just felt like a better phone to me when using both. I'm happy with my purchase. The Incredible is a great phone though, great dev community. Enjoy your phone!

The Incredible is a fantastic phone, with one fatal flaw: its absolutely terrible GPU. I had one after owning the Droid 1, right before the Fascinate came out, and while it was tempting to switch to the Fascinate in general once they announced its release date was inside my 30-day return period (better hardware specs all-around), the graphics performance was what absolutely cinched it.
I remember trying to run on the Incredible... I think it was Asphalt 5 (though this goes for plenty of other 3D-intensive games I can't specifically remember) and it was like playing a slideshow most of the time.
Meanwhile, the Droid 1, despite its almost half-speed CPU compared to the Incredible, was able to smoothly run any game I threw at it.

not me.
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley

cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley
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cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley
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Same here, the incredible was an option, but it is basically a redone droid eris. While decently powerful the fascinate was the better choice, even with 2.1.

Tnguy38 said:
After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.
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I totally respect your decision, but I imagine it will be one you regret. I think people forget that we have only been waiting for Froyo a little more than three months. The droid x waited this long also. Other phones have waited much longer for promised updates.
Btw: As someone already pointed out, you call a locked bootloader better support?
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Lol you impatient people.... i had froyo on my d1 as soon as it was ported. It wasn't that amazing. Good luck to you all
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tcub said:
Okay?
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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I second this. I got my Fascinate from Craigslist and will never again buy a phone on contract.
As far as Froyo, if the update is half-assed (Droid Eris style), I'll be installing a nice clean Froyo rom the friendly neighborhood developers again.

The Froyo upgrade for the Droid 1 was actually pretty amazing performance-wise, but that's neither here nor there.
And the Droid X took a bit over two months to get Froyo. We've already been waiting three and a half months.
So while the Fascinate is a great phone as-is, from an objective point of view, the upgrade wait is unjustified and I feel buyers have every right to be disappointed -- especially when the manufacturer just launched a phone running 2.3.

I think the incredible is just a tad more than a re done fascinate. That's a little bit of a understatement. The dev community is flying on that phone.
Edit: flacyn. You are exactly right. I will agree locked bootloader doesn't mean no support. Just no support from modders. And launching a gingerbread phone while your flagship line sits on eclair is dissapointing.
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Ill give u $50 4 ur fascinate since u dont want it.
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I'll go as high as $51 because it doesn't have froyo.
good day.

me personally i dont plan on playing many games on this things other than like angry birds.. so the only hardware thats appealing is the screen...

I meant to say the incredible is a tad bit more than a re done Eris. Lol my bad.
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Done with the dx!!

Okay I have a post on the market place but with no luck so I thought id bring it over here to my friends
Bid on it send me a pm. Looking for cash offers because im going to get the iphone 4 for vz.
Ya ya im getting the iphone let me hear it lol....
Also have a fascinate for sale also.
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$100 sold. Lol
As u can see I never got around to changing my att carrier avatar I use to have a iPhone. Nothen wrong with them if u plan on jailbreaking it if not prepared to be bored. Jailbreaking makes the phone pretty phone. Would never leave my Droid for it though.

Lol ill have to pass on that
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Done with the DX
I'll Slap $ 50.00 bucks on the table new for $ 149.99, about 5 or 6 mo neither Motorola Or Verizon could beyond. I WILL " Franken-phone " the 4.3" Boot the thing a dozen times to re possible. Get back to me & I'll see that peop Verbatim.
Dr X.

you won't be uber-happy with the iPhone 4- I have both (DroidX for persoanl, iPhone 4 for work) and the only thing good about the iPhone is the games- and the camera.
They haven't released an untethered Jailbreak for 4.2.1, which is a PITA if you jailbreak and need to reboot your phone.
Besides- the iPhone 5 will probably be released in September.

i'd wait for the new iPhone coming out June/July.
rumor mill says it will sport a dual core processor, with a much faster graphics processor (SGX543MP2) from Imagination Technologies.

Eh idk tho lol kinda want a 4 now
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how much for the fascinate?

Thinking 350+ shipping
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well i will bid $50 shipping included. its always nice to have a backup. As for ditching the dx for an iphone: i dont know quite why any thought like that would even come through your mind. Not saying the dx is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but an iphone? do you really want to be restricted like that in customization by the cell phone nazi steve jobs? well, its your choice...

most ppl upgrade not downgrade their fones...my ipod touch does everything that the iphone does..aside from being a good looking phone I've never been intrigued by the iphone
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I had an iPhone for 2 years, then I switched to Android, after the iPhone 4 came out I thought I was missing something. So, I went back to iPhone, it was a big mistake. I was missing Android almost instantly and I returned the iPhone the next day. I will never go back to iPhone. At least you will have a small bit of time to test the iPhone out, and if you dont like it you can return it, (I think you will be).

Verizon is offering a deal to buy back your smartphone bought during or after November with a $200 Visa gift card if you will purchase an iPhone at full retail.
That said, even though that seems like a bad deal still to me, it looks like the low ballers here could stand to be more generous.

I am currently tryign to decide which Droid to get, the Driod X or the Droid 2 Global. I cant make up my mind which one I like more. I am not waiting for the Droid Bionic in hopes the Droid X and Droid 2 will have the same life as the Droid 1.

PeteSeiler2010 said:
I am currently tryign to decide which Droid to get, the Driod X or the Droid 2 Global. I cant make up my mind which one I like more. I am not waiting for the Droid Bionic in hopes the Droid X and Droid 2 will have the same life as the Droid 1.
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Unless some serious bootloader work is done, it isn't looking like it.

I would get the bionic if I didn't already have my X.

infamous702 said:
most ppl upgrade not downgrade their fones...my ipod touch does everything that the iphone does..aside from being a good looking phone I've never been intrigued by the iphone
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Hey +1 on that lol got an iPod touch for music only lol besides iPhone 4 isn't LTE
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Not worried about lte lol
Just a front camera for video chats with my wife while I'm deployed.
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The only good that can come from the i[diot]Phone on verizon is the removal of people incapable of comprehending the android experience (how they get thru life is another tangent) & the more conceivable outcome: a potential price war. The likes of which can only hope to benefit users with more inexpensive phones & possibly better price points on things such as net fees. But not to get hopes up or anything, big business begets greedy MFs. Maybe they'll just continue to price fix...
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are we still bidding?

How come Droid X gets Gingerbread before Atrix?

This is absurd. How does an 8 month old phone gets Gingerbread before the latest Flagship phone?
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/961-droid-2-gingerbread-2-3-3-release-thread.html

Hopefully that's a good sign of things to come :/
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Because motorola has been working on longer than the atrix
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I'm sure Motorola will give us Gingerbread in time for Honycomb to come out for phones lol.

It does suck. I dont see why the atrix doesn't have it by now. The source has been out for a while. They should have developed it by now.
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jkurl said:
It does suck. I dont see why the atrix doesn't have it by now. The source has been out for a while. They should have developed it by now.
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If they lose Motoblur, they might have a shorter update cycle. But when did they ever consider what users want?

I would think that they would have to answer to droid x users before the atrix users
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Good things come to those who wait.
.............Maybe..............

Relax. It was obvius that an older phone was going to get the update earlier than a pionner dual core phone. The Atrix is a whole new technology that is not as standar as other phones... On the other hand, just passed one month from its originally launch, what do you expect Android 6.3.5? Atrix is not a Dev phone, is a company (In fact a dual company, Motorola and At&t) personalised phone. Relax folks, it will come in time.
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Relax. It was obvius that an older phone was going to get the update earlier than a pionner dual core phone. The Atrix is a whole new technology that is not as standar as other phones... On the other hand, just passed one month from its originally launch, what do you expect Android 6.3.5? Atrix is not a Dev phone, is a company (In fact a dual company, Motorola and At&t) personalised phone. Relax folks, it will come in time.
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Yeah, I think they said "by the end of 2011" so I hope everyone likes FROzen YOgurt. We have no idea how far they are in testing Gingerbread with a full MotoBlur overlay. The DX, D2, and even the upcoming Bionic only use the MotoBlur Applications Platform that they have been working on since the release of GB and is probably easier to update. I think the Atrix is the only phone running full MotoBlur with 2.2, correct me if I'm wrong. And it seems they're putting a lot of work into that still considering the latest 4.1.57 build. I'd say not anytime before Q4 for the Atrix.

I always wondered how hard would it be for them to just throw honey comb on the atrix. The specs are the same as the xoom. Personally I don't mind waiting a bit longer if when they release ginger bread or honey comb they support dual core. I mean all the next gen phones coming out will be dual core and half of them are running the nivida tegra 2

aszrael1266 said:
I always wondered how hard would it be for them to just throw honey comb on the atrix. The specs are the same as the xoom. Personally I don't mind waiting a bit longer if when they release ginger bread or honey comb they support dual core. I mean all the next gen phones coming out will be dual core and half of them are running the nivida tegra 2
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Honeycomb is only for tablets, Ice Cream is supposed to mix the two, so 2.4 will probably more or less be Honeycomb for phones.
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No matter what they release... it will probably suck. Moto Blur is worthless.
Dear Motorola Mobility,
Nice choice on hardware!
Feel free to continue making all the most worthless software in the world to drag down your phones... but please, make everyone's life easier and JUST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADERS so we can take your crappy software off!!!!!!!
P.S. No one wants to pay any money for your worthless laptop attachment. Who makes a trackpad that doesn't support scrolling anymore anyways?
Love,
Semi-Proud Atrix owner
If there was a Blur Atrix, and a 'Nexus' Atrix w/ unlocked bootloader and current software, it is hard to imagine any knowledgeable human buying the one with Blur.

plvaulter06 said:
No matter what they release... it will probably suck. Moto Blur is worthless.
Dear Motorola Mobility,
Nice choice on hardware!
Feel free to continue making all the most worthless software in the world to drag down your phones... but please, make everyone's life easier and JUST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADERS so we can take your crappy software off!!!!!!!
P.S. No one wants to pay any money for your worthless laptop attachment. Who makes a trackpad that doesn't support scrolling anymore anyways?
Love,
Semi-Proud Atrix owner
If there was a Blur Atrix, and a 'Nexus' Atrix w/ unlocked bootloader and current software, it is hard to imagine any knowledgeable human buying the one with Blur.
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Agreed. The Atrix should have been the Nexus S (Vanilla ROM of course)

Galaxy S or Droid X?

What should I get Verizon saaid I can switch....help! I have a DX right now...

Keep the X if you ever want an update
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tyvallely said:
What should I get Verizon saaid I can switch....help! I have a DX right now...
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Galaxy S isn't on Verizon. The variant the fascinate is. Being a former fascinate owner stick with the X. Even with the voodoo lagfix Droid x is far more stable. Sure the super amoled is nice as well a better gaming performance, but it's not worth the lag and hiccups from the fascinate.

If you want development, go with the fascinate.
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Get a dx
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seeing as recent events have been putting hackers into a corner, id say iphone

luigi90210 said:
seeing as recent events have been putting hackers into a corner, id say iphone
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Ha ha ha you're a joker you

cstrife999 said:
Ha ha ha you're a joker you
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no im actually quite serious
now i love android and i also hate the iphone with a bloody passion but in reality with locked bootloader on almost every new device made by the main manufactures(HTC, Motorola, and now samsung) makes it near impossible to make your phone yours and even with root access what can you really do that a jailbroken iphone cant?
i mean you dont have to use itunes and such but seriously it isnt hard to jailbreak an iphone and free it from itunes
in reality though the droid x will never be a droid 1, or a HTC Dream(G1) for that matter
EOL for the droid x is coming up and chances are that 2.3 is going to be the last OTA for the droid x and after that your stuck on 2.3 or what ever version manufactures leave you on until you buy a new device
at least the iphone will last 2 years before it stops getting updates

I picked up a DX on craigslist about a week ago to check out why people were leaving the Fascinate for it. I chose a Fascinate over the DX last fall and only regretted it until the first froyo leaks for it showed up.
In my opinion (grain of salt check) a froyoed Fascinate is a better phone than a froyoed DX. Development seems to be roughly the same in terms of quantity and the quality of development on the Fascinate feels better. My camera/camcorder works, bluetooth doesn't kill the battery, GPS is fixed.
I haven't played around yet with gingerbread (yeah, I'm waiting...) So I can't comment there. Sleigh it looks like fully functioning GB is right around the corner and there is a handicapped one out now for the Fascinate.
This is totally subjective, but the Fascinate is more comfortable to hold also. My DX is probably going to last another week before hitting "The 'bay".

Galaxy S II should be out in 1-2 months. Just wait and get that. Far better than either the Galaxy S or Droid X.

Wow I need to delete this thread because my dad is soooooooo gay and made me get a piece of **** phone. **** this is awesome.

Dx by a mile. Bigger screen, better camera, you will get manufacturer updates. Anyways, wait for the bionic or get a thunderbolt.
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DX or HTC Thunderbolt

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Dx by a mile. Bigger screen, better camera, you will get manufacturer updates. Anyways, wait for the bionic or get a thunderbolt.
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Although I agree with most of that as I also suggested droid X. Fasinate has a far better camera. People think more MP equals better. In this case it doesn't. Of every phone I have ever owned Fascinate has the best camera.

I dont think you guys understood could only get the samsung......but now i have a working dx

Droid 3> Or <X?

Anyone play around with the droid 3 or upgrade from the X to it? I am thinking of using my upgrade on it.. I miss having a keyboard. I was waiting for the bionic but who knows when if it will come out, plus there's no keyboard..4G really isn't relevant for where I live yet.

Idk still wait for the bionic but if you don't need the 4g then the others seem more apealing. But if you get the bionic there will be plenty of new stuff for it, no doubt they will realease honeycomb for it if its popular enough.
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Wait, people are still considering buying a Motorola phone when HTC is unlocking all their bootloaders and Samsung has been making it easy to do so as well?
Motorola as a nerd smartphone manufacturer is DEAD.

Roland Deschain said:
Wait, people are still considering buying a Motorola phone when HTC is unlocking all their bootloaders and Samsung has been making it easy to do so as well?
Motorola as a nerd smartphone manufacturer is DEAD.
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Xoom + DX = bluetooth tether for free without root. Also works with D1, D2, D2G, D2R2D2, and DPro. Probably will work with D3 and Bionic. Oh, and bluetooth tether with these Moto phones also will work with a Samsung Tab 10.1, and probably any other Honeycomb tablet. Regular adhoc Wifi hotspot doesn't work. Thanks Moto

You should be able to do that with any other Bluetooth Android phone, too. However, Bluetooth data transfer rates are ridiculous...you probably don't notice on 3G, but if you go to LTE, you'll see horrible performance doing that.

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Idk still wait for the bionic but if you don't need the 4g then the others seem more apealing. But if you get the bionic there will be plenty of new stuff for it, no doubt they will realease honeycomb for it if its popular enough.
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For information sake, honeycomb isn't going to be released on phones, it is only for tablets, you will have to wait for ice cream sandwich.

Keith, I love you, lol, amazing points
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Sry c3rbus, meaning no offense, I was referring to whatever the next android idk will be
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The D3 is a nice phone but Im holding out til the Bionic hits.
I've got 4G where I live already and want 4G for video chatting.
4G will provide a smoother Video chat experience when compared to a 3G connection.

Got a buddy of mine with the D3 and I was comparing it to an X2 and I would take the D3 over the X2 if I had to get a phone right now this minute. But its sounds more and more like the BIONIC is going to be the device to have. LTE and pretty much the same as the D3 in every other way. The D3 I think is a little late to the party at this point. It should have come out shortly before the but LTE push to hold people over but now I am afraid its going to get swept under the rug.
Then like some of the other posts said the Samsung devices are really frickin nice right now and that SuperAMOLED is incredible to look at.

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Got a buddy of mine with the D3 and I was comparing it to an X2 and I would take the D3 over the X2 if I had to get a phone right now this minute. But its sounds more and more like the BIONIC is going to be the device to have. LTE and pretty much the same as the D3 in every other way. The D3 I think is a little late to the party at this point. It should have come out shortly before the but LTE push to hold people over but now I am afraid its going to get swept under the rug.
Then like some of the other posts said the Samsung devices are really frickin nice right now and that SuperAMOLED is incredible to look at.
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How does the screen on the Droid 3 look as compared to the Droid X2?
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From what I noticed they are the same when it came down to quality. So size is the biggest difference I saw and the X2 wins there.
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On topic:
I would wait another couple of weeks for the bionic or any news of a SGSII. The Bionic has a home splash now at Verizon, and we all have thought for a while that August would be the right time anyways. Judge for your self from there, as the Bionic is rummored to be a slightly different beast. (probably a 3g phone vs. 4g Flagship type thing)
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Wait, people are still considering buying a Motorola phone when HTC is unlocking all their bootloaders and Samsung has been making it easy to do so as well?
Motorola as a nerd smartphone manufacturer is DEAD.
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Not Necessary. Look at the Atrix, I have some faith left for open boot loaders on future phones. Also, I love moto build quality and style. If you don't like moto phones, and the thread is asking specifically of a moto device, inside a thread for a moto device, you should probably take a long and hard look at your priorities.

Yeah besides some issues with my last DROID X Motorola has been rock solid hardware and great for reception and to me lately quality beats easy rooting. I have my X and three OG DROIDS my wife and sister are due to upgrade in november so we will see what's hot then but Motorola will still be the first phones I look at.
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