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So, I'm due for an update soon and the Fascinate physically appears to be a perfect device for me. I've never had an Android before, but am very willing to get into rooting/hacking. That being said, I do like to keep relatively on top of updates and new technology/software... so my concern is the Fascinate getting updates.
From what I see, it appears that the Droid X, and for that matter, most of the Droid series gets a number of updates... prob more than expected. I mean, the Droid Eris even appeared to go way past it's initial version.
If Verizon tops out at LETS SAY 2.1 or they get 2.2 out eventually... is it worth getting this phone? I mean, am I better off painstakingly waiting for a similarly designed phoned to come out that we know will get updates? Or will the dev community support this phone enough to not need Verizon/Samsung's updates? And by that... I mean will we be able to get 2.2, 2.3.... through skillful community members?
Don't get one. Wait a few months for the dual core LTE phones to be released and stay away from Samsung.
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iTz Nicholas72 said:
Don't get one. Wait a few months for the dual core LTE phones to be released and stay away from Samsung.
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QFT. The Fascinate hardware is amazing, but its not worth it to waste an upgrade with so many great LTE phones coming so soon. HTC Thunderbolt, LG Revolution, Moto Droid Bionic, etc.
Yeah, the fascinate is a nice phone and, I am happy with it, but a bunch of new phones are coming out soon that are even better.
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Yeah, those look great... but I think it's worth nothing... I didn't plan on throwing down for a 4G/LTE data plan. I've never had a smartphone before (despite techy), and was perfectly happy with unlimited 3G.
Stay away from samsung, if you get one you will regret it in a few months when the kickass phones come out.
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I appreciate everyone's opinions, they do help... but I am concerned that everyone answering will be LTE adopters. I plan on going the $29.99 unlimited 3G data route, but do not plan on throwing down extra for LTE. Does that factor into this decision at all?
Buy it.. Our devs are rocking
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Hello I'm reading people talking about the new phones coming up, the lte, the 4g etc, my question is, with this nw phones will I have to pay the extra $10 for the 4g like sprint charges???? Cause in my area I don't think the 4g exist anyway I don't care about it thanks, hour hope you understand my question, my english no good
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I appreciate everyone's opinions, they do help... but I am concerned that everyone answering will be LTE adopters. I plan on going the $29.99 unlimited 3G data route, but do not plan on throwing down extra for LTE. Does that factor into this decision at all?
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I agree, the unlimited 3g is enough for me have wifi with 10mbpsspeed so I'm good.....
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I'm glad there appear to be a couple of people who understand my position.
I don't anticipate opting for LTE coverage, nor do I need it. I would assume these new LTE phones will work on both 3g and LTE, but am I forced to get an LTE plan if I get one of these phones? Also, I'd assume that these new phones will be higher than the $199 price point.
The slew of new phones won't be available for a couple months anyways, so if you're looking for something in the immediate future, the Fascinate has the best hardware available right now. OEM support is lacking, but our devs are making tremendous progress on porting 2.2 and 2.3
At this point, I don't think anyone knows what lte plans will cost or if they will be above and beyond a normal 3g plan. We can't even say they will be required yet. With so much unknown, and really much better phones on the way, the safe thing is to wait. Honestly, I can't see the fascinate getting more expensive.
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Despite the Froyo delays, i have been more than satisfied with this device. I also concur that our devs do indeed rock.
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Don't get one. Wait a few months for the dual core LTE phones to be released and stay away from Samsung.
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"Few months"? Thanks to Apple, the first dual-core (Bionic) isn't coming until June.
LTE will be a mixed blessing.
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"Few months"? Thanks to Apple, the first dual-core (Bionic) isn't coming until June.
LTE will be a mixed blessing.
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I feel like a few months, coming soon, Q1 2011 and first half 2011... really all mean mid year. My upgrade is January 21st, and I don't really know if I wanna wait that long. I have patience, if its warranted... but is it worth it to wait for one of these recently announced phones if I don't plan on getting LTE?
My main concern is updates to Android. I don't want to get a phone that will cease to be supported because the manufacturer sees opportunity to make more money elsewhere. While I like the form factor of the Fascinate more than any other current Verizon phone, am I better off just getting a Droid X or Droid 2.
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I feel like a few months, coming soon, Q1 2011 and first half 2011... really all mean mid year. My upgrade is January 21st, and I don't really know if I wanna wait that long. I have patience, if its warranted... but is it worth it to wait for one of these recently announced phones if I don't plan on getting LTE?
My main concern is updates to Android. I don't want to get a phone that will cease to be supported because the manufacturer sees opportunity to make more money elsewhere. While I like the form factor of the Fascinate more than any other current Verizon phone, am I better off just getting a Droid X or Droid 2.
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Or an iPhone 4.
Unless you really against it like many here. Then DX D2G would better suit you.
Fascinate is really nice machine but lack of oem support. Unless you don't mind replacing it when or if something does happen to it while flashing dev version of froyo/gb then go ahead grab one.
Personally would suggest an iPhone to first time smartphone users. It has great support guaranteed updates annually. More solid user experience it has more and better apps compared to Android.
Despite many claims.
Non-jailbroken iPhone > unrooted Android device.
Jailbroken iPhone = rooted Android device.
I have nothing against Apple/IOS or Google/Android. Above is all based on personal experiences (iPhone 3/3GS. Droid 1/Fascinate). and by no means to start another Apple vs Android mouth fight.
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After owning this phone along with the moto droid and droid x and htc incredible and eris i would say get the iphone 4 its better.
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First an foremost, i understand where.yor coming from about the 4G. My opinion on the fascinate is that its an amazing phone. Best phone i've owned. I've had the x, the inc, the og droid, and iphones. I love this phone. Fast smooth. Camera is amazing. The only drawback os customer service and.the upgrades. But when you root samsungs customer service goes out the window anyways. And the rate our devs are going who needs verizons updates. Now the question is what devs will stay around when the new lte phones come out in the main factor. Cause without devs you wont have updates. Im staying with sf as long as the devs continue to work as hard as they are to produce these amazing updates. Just my two cents.
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First an foremost, i understand where.yor coming from about the 4G. My opinion on the fascinate is that its an amazing phone. Best phone i've owned. I've had the x, the inc, the og droid, and iphones. I love this phone. Fast smooth. Camera is amazing. The only drawback os customer service and.the upgrades. But when you root samsungs customer service goes out the window anyways. And the rate our devs are going who needs verizons updates. Now the question is what devs will stay around when the new lte phones come out in the main factor. Cause without devs you wont have updates. Im staying with sf as long as the devs continue to work as hard as they are to produce these amazing updates. Just my two cents.
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I see that this community is really churning out some great roms, in fact, I found XDA because of all the talk about it on other forums I frequent. That being said, I see A LOT of roms and kernels for 2.1 What is the typical timeframe for ports of newer Android versions? I've read other phones getting ported to 2.1, 2.2... without the carrier even releasing it. I know this phone has only been out since November, but are we on track for 2.2? Or at this point, is the dev community already behind.
I swear, that the main thing I'm looking for is supported updates. I know iOS has that, but other than that... I like everything about Android.
I think if the Samsung Galaxy S 2 comes out for Verizon, I'll get that one. But if not, I think I'm getting the Samsung Charge, or Iphone 5. What phone are you most excited about?
iPhone
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sgs2, I hate apple so undecided on iphone 5
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None. I'm stuck on the two year contract. I don't know how you are not?
SGSII definitely. I'm avaliable for an upgrade anytime til my contract ends November.
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Nothing from Samsung, that's for sure.
I actually really like this phone once its de-bloated and de-crapified. Actually its probably my favorite phone I've ever had. (that includes numerous smart phones and platforms going back to the nokia 3650 on symbian os). Im going to stick around with it until there's something amazing released.
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do you know if its coming to verizon?
I'll get the SGSII, IF and only if it doesn't have anything locking it down and preventing custom ROMs/Kernels. Otherwise, I'll find something else.
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I'll get the SGSII, IF and only if it doesn't have anything locking it down and preventing custom ROMs/Kernels. Otherwise, I'll find something else.
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Supercurio has been posting numerous Tweets on his Twitter bout that, seems that there's not too much to worry about that
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This mod will be getting a Thunderbolt when his contract with ATTmobile is up.
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Supercurio has been posting numerous Tweets on his Twitter bout that, seems that there's not too much to worry about that
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Yeah, didn't see those when I posted that. Just need to make sure that VZW doesn't request that the bootloader be locked and Samsung follow through with it.
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Nothing from Samsung, that's for sure.
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What she said! F' Samsung! I've had all 3 omnia's and now the Fascinate and am sick of having to wait for updates whilest others bask in the update glory!
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Yeah, didn't see those when I posted that. Just need to make sure that VZW doesn't request that the bootloader be locked and Samsung follow through with it.
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Saw this posted on twitter ... Wayne and company are generally a solid source.
http://www.gizmoninja.com/2011/04/15/samsung-will-not-lock-its-bootloaders/
So will unlocked bootloaders win out over slower software updates? For me personally I say yes.
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I actually really like this phone once its de-bloated and de-crapified. Actually its probably my favorite phone I've ever had. (that includes numerous smart phones and platforms going back to the nokia 3650 on symbian os). Im going to stick around with it until there's something amazing released.
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I'm probably going to do the same, I'm hoping that it can get me til sometime in december of 2012 so i can leave verizon...though my contract is "up" in march of 2012 my girlfriend's line doesn't end until 12/23/2012
I just jumped ship from the Fascinate to the Thunderbolt a few days ago. Rooted and have been experimenting.
After getting a sense of the Thunderbolt and putting it side by side with the Fascinate, its not as dominant as I would have expected. The Fascinate's SAMOLED screen is just substantially better than the Thunderbolt's S-LCD. Its not even close really. Also, the latest gen Snapdragon + Adreno 205....doesn't seem as snappy as the Fascinate SoC. Fascinate definitely has better graphics. Very subtle stutters on the Thunderbolt after testing a few ROMs and Kernels. Also, its certainly a matter of opinion, but the Thunderbolt is just a tad too big compared with the Fascinate. They have the power button on top like an iPhone, and the way I would naturally grip the phone puts the power button barely out of reach of my index finger. I have to do a very small phone adjust in my hand to allow my index finger to get on top of the power button, but the Fascinate's 4 inch screen is about as large as I would imagine it could get for it to require no movement of the phone in the palm while operating it, which is preferable I think.
On the other hand - Verizon's LTE network is stupid fast. NYC with its saturated 3G networks -- the LTE network is like coming up for air after nearly drowning. Its rock solid everywhere I've been, almost like ubiquitous WiFi. When you really think about it, even the best Dual-Core Cortex A9 phones on ATT can't really touch a Cortex A8 experience on WiFi. The network makes an enormous difference and that can't be stressed enough.
The Thunderbolt is sexier than the Fascinate with its screen off. I don't really care about the kickstand, but the feel and heft is a welcome change from the Fascinate. Although not a graphics beast, it is by no means a slouch. The UI is very snappy, and I'll be very curious once CM7/AOSP gets released.
Thats the final thing about the Thunderbolt that I think is worth mentioning. The Thunderbolt forum is buzzing. Lots of devs, people are gearing up for CM7 nightlies/crackflashing. Not to say this forum wasn't Fantastic, but the Thunderbolt, and HTC in general, seem to have a slightly more robust community. I'm not at all upset with my decision to switch, but the Fascinate is by NO MEANS old hardware right now, in fact using the Thunderbolt makes me appreciate how good Samsung was on the hardware side.
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Saw this posted on twitter ... Wayne and company are generally a solid source.
http://www.gizmoninja.com/2011/04/15/samsung-will-not-lock-its-bootloaders/
So will unlocked bootloaders win out over slower software updates? For me personally I say yes.
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I agree, and with an unlocked bootloader and a whole SLEW of awesome devs that I know are gonna jump on this beast of a phone and with Sammy leaking source code and updates like EB01/EC01 for free beta testing, we don't need official OTA updates. I WILL BE GETTING THE GALAXY S 2!
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That is a great question. I bought a used Fascinate to hold me over, and to learn the Android system. I am hoping that later in the year I can get something with dual core and LTE. But I also don't want to give up battery life. So this may not be possible.
I like Android, but have a bad opinion of Samsung compared to my previous multiple HTC WinMo devices.
So I want:
For the OS: Android, likely not Microsoft, never Apple.
Manufacturer: HTC, maybe Moto, Samsung is low on the list.
Carrier: Verizon...........period.. What I need it for, other choices fail.
Dual core would be nice, but not at the expensive of a lot of battery life.
I want LTE. Not badly, but there is not much reason to throw away a 2 year contract and not get it.
The Thunderbolt is almost it, and may BE it, for me. Maybe I really don't want dual core just yet anyway. The new SGS II is probably nice, but I'm sure I would be returning in to Verizon as it would have the same hardware weaknesses that I see in the Fascinate.
So I'm waiting it out for now to see what else comes along. Until I smash this P.O.S. Fascinate against the ground and I'm forced to decide.
It's going to be really tough for me to buy another Samsung phone. The internal guts of the Fascinate are awesome (which is why I bought it), but the lack of support and poorly written code is a real let-down. I'm definitely going to explore other phone manufacturers and carriers to see how things compare. If another network suits my daily needs, I'll definitely switch... possibly to T-Mobile given their upcoming line-up of phones. I'm not excited about the possible AT&T merger, but I definitely won't be locking myself into any contracts in the near future. Android progresses way too quickly to get locked into anything longer than 1 year - and those contracts are going away.
As much as most would hate to hear it, if the iPhone had Google Navigation, a universal micro-USB port and maybe removable internal storage + battery... I would consider it. I doubt those things would ever happen, so no iPhone for me. An MIUI-compatible Android would be much better anyways.
Galaxy S2. Samsung is improving. I mean, GB is rolling out to the i9000 before any other phone. Their hardware is superior. With the Galaxy S2, it's EXT4. AND, the bootloader is gonna be open. It seems that they ARE listening to the consumers. Though I'm angry that we still don't have 2.2, I blame Verizon for that more than Samsung.
Interesting. Still NO LTE?! :-/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...he-Atrix-2-photos-leak-specs-revealed_id22280
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So, 3 megapixels is a worthy upgrade?
Don't get your hopes up over leaked information. Nothing is official until it comes straight from the source.
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Don't get your hopes up over leaked information. Nothing is official until it comes straight from the source.
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I doubt, (even if it will exist) it will become the "Atrix 2". The Atrix has been out only 7 months (maybe 6?) and it's essentially the same phone with an extra 3 megapixels :/. What would be the point of this phone as a successor?
Atrix Upgrade
The new phone with have a faster 1.2 or 1.5 ghz processor, a larger 4.3 or 4.5" screen, curved edges on the screen, and better camera, and higher video rate.
I dont think this is the time to upgrade since its been announced that quad core phones as fast as 2.5 ghz will be released by xmas. So if you do upgrade now you will be upgrading again shortly. The android market is moving very fast.
Also Gingerbread is running nicely and I am happy with my phone.
Bigger screen, faster processor are upgrades I want. But I would also like my next phone to have a FM radio receiver. The Atrix has one but it does not work. The other exotic upgrade I would like to have is a built in TV receiver. A company in S Korea released a phone with a TV receiver in it but I have not seen it yet. That would certainly be an exotic upgrade and it could be a while before one is released here in the USA.
I also look forward to Ice Cream Sandwich but wil wait for the OTA release of that which officially be in November.
Not even an upgrade to be worthy as the ATRIX successor. More pixels, higher clocked chip, most likely a larger screen....ill pass and stay with my current oc'd ATRIX
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No LTE for what I'm sure will be Motorola's new "flagship" phone like the original Atrix was.... fail. After experiencing Motoblur, in all its glory, Im going Nexus route when the Prime comes out... pure Google experience appeals to me more than webtop or fingerprint scanner, neither of which I even use any more.
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No LTE for what I'm sure will be Motorola's new "flagship" phone like the original Atrix was.... fail. After experiencing Motoblur, in all its glory, Im going Nexus route when the Prime comes out... pure Google experience appeals to me more than webtop or fingerprint scanner, neither of which I even use any more.
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I agree with you 100% I am definitely getting the next Google phone.
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No LTE for what I'm sure will be Motorola's new "flagship" phone like the original Atrix was.... fail. After experiencing Motoblur, in all its glory, Im going Nexus route when the Prime comes out... pure Google experience appeals to me more than webtop or fingerprint scanner, neither of which I even use any more.
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I don't see a 8mp camera as an upgrade. Just because its 3 more mp doesn't mean it's better picture quality, actually it's usually worse.
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I shared my thoughts on the Atrix 2 here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-2-upgraded-with-lte-photos
Why is there a 4G icon with signal blips? AT&T and Moto use the "H+" for HSPA+. Maybe this thing will have LTE after all is said and done. It is most definitely discouraging to hear "no LTE," though.
I didn't see a fingerprint sensor... so if I'm correct and there isn't one, that would mean the only upgrade is the camera. No wonder Google bought Motorola Mobility, I wouldn't want a company like that representing the Android brand :/
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I doubt, (even if it will exist) it will become the "Atrix 2". The Atrix has been out only 7 months (maybe 6?) and it's essentially the same phone with an extra 3 megapixels :/. What would be the point of this phone as a successor?
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If the processor specs are for real than they actually aren't close to same...
Have you guys seen what motorola does over on Verizon for its droids? DROID 1 DROID 2 and DROID 3 are all incremental updates. DROID x to DROID x2 as well. Why wouldn't Moto make a slightly different phone and call it new? Every phone manufacturer does this from Htc to Motorola to Apple.
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All you have to do is look at nvidia's "Roadmap" of the tegra chips to see whats happening with them and what their plans are. Here is a link so you can see for yourselves, http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/02/teg...-chip-worlds-first-quadcore-mobile-processor/ Anyway looking like you upgrade in 2012 than 2013 etc considering according to their roadmap they have new stuff coming every year up to 2014. Regardless though if it is a supposed "Atrix 2" seems sorta pointless considering what we can already do with a rooted unlock Atrix granted not like your layman would know any different.
Is it just me. Or is there no fingerprint reader?
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Unless AT&T gets friendlier with its data limits (even soft caps) LTE doesn't excite me that much...
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This is what im growing tired of, lol the atrix isnt even old, yet they are gonna release number 2 this year, lol with a slight increase in specs, ..
too many damn phones out..lol cant even keep up, unless you have deep pockets,,
I have a infuse and atrix. those will keep me busy through the new year.. hell even my old dinc still has plenty of horsepower left.. even though its migrated to my 13 yr old for games, lol
Atrix 2 probably lacks unlocked bootloader. Pass.
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The Atrix was a pretty big leap in terms of mobile technology when it came out and is still extremely competitive with other Dual Core phones especially with the custom ROM's.
My thoughts should be that the Atrix 2 should be released when it makes another big jump in terms of technology, not miniscule upgrades.
Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
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Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Well I guess it really depends on where you are. USA is Q3.
Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM are Eval and planning.
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Uuh... i think you're looking a little too far south on that list. The one YOU'RE looking at says:
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Further details to follow
Look a little further up the list, and you see:
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Rollouts begin Q3 2012
So i guess it's already in development for the US market, but still planning for other locale's. Guess it doesn't really matter anyhow... i'm sure we'll have a much nicer version of CM9 LONG before Motorola gets around to making an effort.
Looks like I will continue to use the atrix for a long time! Which is great because the new moto devices wont work with my docks.
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I'll still be using and doing work on mine
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Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I will ^_^
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Ok well that's 2 people.
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Ok well that's 2 people.
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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Not to mention that it helps resell value a little bit for those who will be unloading their phones. Selling a Gingerbread phone when ICS is widespread would be a much tougher sell.
this is awesome, im stoked!!! I hope they fix the fingerprint stuff and fix the battery....get me some JUICE!!!!
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Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I agree. By the time Q3 kicks in, Quad core phones would be rolling out. Also, remember the Milestone debacle in regards to the Gingerbread roll out which was pushed further and further away. By the time it was released, the update was crap and slowed pretty much the phone down. I sold mine a few months prior to the GB update.
MOD/ROM Devs will either take another 2-4 extra months of tweaking or move on to better things. When Atrix was newly released it took around a few months for a decent ROM to come out. Another few months right after the bootloader was unlocked. Plus, it still depends on HOW MANY Devs will be producing Roms by then.
Understand also that, there are some Atrix owners that are wary of modding their phone. An average Joe wouldnt want to mess with it.
We are only but a handful of modders that are willing to take a leap of faith in phone customization. I got coworkers who own Android phones and are NOT interested in regards to roms/mods.
Currently, im in a dilemma of either switching to a Gnex or wait for the Quad. Only time will tell....
There are some other countries in the world except USA and Canada And in many of them carriers do not subsidize phones and even don't have contracts with fixed monthly payments. For example, I may pay nothing for several months if I only use wifi and accept incoming calls.
So I don't have a reason to buy something else. I think I will do it when a phone 4 cores, 2gb ram, micro sd slot, changeable battery, HDMI, NFC, LTE, unlockable bootloader appears. I don't believe this kind of phone with fully working CM7/9 will appear in Q3. Otherwise it doesn't worth buying, atrix remains one of the most powerful phones with great community support
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Motorola should be crazy
i understand now, motorola very bad corparation and can't sale phones international
I'll be using mine until another quad core google (made by Google) phone comes out. Or if I choose to by the Asus padfone with the money I spent on my prime. I do have experience with rooting unlocking flashing etc I fully modded my backflip. So I don't agree with your average Joe statement. I just refuse to do that for this amazing piece of hardware until stable ics comes out 100% stable working everything. Which means that this ics update IS worth waiting for.JS
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i might have missed something but i didn't see canada listed anywhere.
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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Many people don't updgrade just because they can. I just had to pry my wife's fingers off her Nokia E71 to get her a free Atrix last month. I am going to leave it stock and locked. While I may be using a different phone a year from now she will still have the Atrix which means I will still have access to the lapdock! It will be nice to have ICS..
I love my Atrix and I'm happy about news.
I think I will use till it will break. I don't see any point upgrading even to Tegra 3 or whatever. For phone even Atrix hardware is overkill (for near future).
If you want get highest score in benchmarks, sure then you should upgrade phone alomst every other month...
I gotta agree the atrix is really good even tho newer devices are better they arent that much better than its worth an upgrade.......I preffer wating until there is a quad core phone with battery life that doesn't suck.Also 1Gb of RAM is pretty much the norm now and with about 100 apps on my device im reaching that limit already.Also who cares about the cores dual core phones right now aren't really doing much unless they're on ICS which actually takes advantage of both cores and even then most apps aren't optimized for dualcore so what is the point of four cores....??? there are advantages but still its just funny why take hardware so far instead make better software to utilize what you already have look at apple they dont even have dualcore iphones yet their devices are super smooth and this is coming from me and I hate apple so much.
My main piint is atrix with ICS means that neither att or manufactures will get my money until they got something that really stands out with good hardware and good software and i know most phone are still gonna be on gingerbread probably until this years end....
I really do not know what to say
Xoom is Motorola's first dual-core tablet
Atrix is Motorola's first dual-core mobile phone
Motorola upgraded attitude gap is too great
I can not imagine when Xoom has been upgraded to 4.1 when the Atrix is still 2.3
Even if it is the CPU of Xoom's CPU and Atrix slightly different
But I believe the difference is not large
So, I think this is Motorola's responsibility
Atrix will be my last one Motorola mobile phone
After I purchased the Nexus series
I am buying the next Nexus phone. I am never buying another Motorola product.
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
I am buying the next Nexus phone. I am never buying another Motorola product.
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Same as me
In my opinion one of Motorola's core users should play with the user of the machine
Is not just used to use as a phone user
Play with the user of the machine will continue to buy new phone
But the use of mobile phone users will not
They have changed the frequency of the new mobile phone often low
And when they buy a new phone just to see the appearance of good or bad
Motorola to give up the core users of the playing machines
Just taking to one of my friends about Motorola.
Never again buying Motorola.
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271908128 said:
Same as me
In my opinion one of Motorola's core users should play with the user of the machine
Is not just used to use as a phone user
Play with the user of the machine will continue to buy new phone
But the use of mobile phone users will not
They have changed the frequency of the new mobile phone often low
And when they buy a new phone just to see the appearance of good or bad
Motorola to give up the core users of the playing machines
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Was that english?
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getyroks said:
Was that english?
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My mother tongue is not English
me too,this is the last motorola phone i buy,very disapointed
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It's pretty simple, if you want constant updates then get a Nexus phone.
The fact that no Tegra 2 phone has ICS would suggest that the problem lies with nvidia. Even the Galaxy s2 variants that use Tegra 2 don't have ICS yet. Before buying my next phone, I'll make sure it can be unlocked and it doesn't use nvidia. Motorola should actually get better with the releases since its now owned by Google.
me too am also buying the next nexus phone(maybe it will be motorola no one knows)??
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My next phone will be a Nexus or Samsung Galaxy S4.
No more Motorola phones. If my Atrix is dead before my contract ends, I am gonna get a Galaxy S3.
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I am buying the next Nexus phone. I am never buying another Motorola product.
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This
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yeahmann said:
The fact that no Tegra 2 phone has ICS would suggest that the problem lies with nvidia. Even the Galaxy s2 variants that use Tegra 2 don't have ICS yet. Before buying my next phone, I'll make sure it can be unlocked and it doesn't use nvidia. Motorola should actually get better with the releases since its now owned by Google.
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Why would the problem be with nvidia if a tablet like the acer a500 which runs on tegra 2, has been officially updated to ics?
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Why would the problem be with nvidia if a tablet like the acer a500 which runs on tegra 2, has been officially updated to ics?
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Because it's not the same Tegra 2.
I really thought Google would come up with some sort of solution to fragmentation at this years I/O, but they didn't, and I was a little dissapointed.
Instead, they released the new OS early, and are giving it to people with nexus devices first (and the Xoom for whatever reason). And I think they are doing it this way as a way to make consumers switch over to nexus devices out of anger and dissapointment, and to force other phone manufacturers hands at making their versions of the operating system simpler, so their customers get the updates quicker.
The reason why people get the new updates so late is because every other manufacturer has to add their "skin" over the OS, and that takes time and a lot of testing, and that is what Google is trying to stop
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I really thought Google would come up with some sort of solution to fragmentation at this years I/O, but they didn't, and I was a little dissapointed.
Instead, they released the new OS early, and are giving it to people with nexus devices first (and the Xoom for whatever reason). And I think they are doing it this way as a way to make consumers switch over to nexus devices out of anger and dissapointment, and to force other phone manufacturers hands at making their versions of the operating system simpler, so their customers get the updates quicker.
The reason why people get the new updates so late is because every other manufacturer has to add their "skin" over the OS, and that takes time and a lot of testing, and that is what Google is trying to stop
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Did you see Droid razr's ics?
It's stock ics with small simple edits however it took Motorola ages to release it
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soudy1994 said:
Did you see Droid razr's ics?
It's stock ics with small simple edits however it took Motorola ages to release it
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Yeah I saw it, what really takes manufacturers this long to release updates? I know changing the code for specific devices is hard, but it shouldn't take 5-6 months
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Yeah I saw it, what really takes manufacturers this long to release updates? I know changing the code for specific devices is hard, but it shouldn't take 5-6 months
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Bureaucratic development and testing procedures.
I pledged never again to buy a Motorola product after this. When the Atrix first came out, I loved it. Then the locked bootloader eventually killed development. I wish I could count how many devs abandoned the first dual core phone because of the bootloader. Design gears and dagr8 come to mind.
Unfortunately, my girlfriend is stuck with her Atrix until january, and I'm getting her the Xperia Ion. Sad that I'm choosing Sony over Motorola, but they forced us in that direction.
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