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[Q] How to move apps/games to SD card?

I've been trying to figure out how to transfer some files over to the SD; but when I go to settings, I never get the option to move to sd card. I tried two "App2SD" type apps and it's the same result. None of my apps have the option; the same ones on my Evo will transfer to the SD card. I'm using the microSD slot on the tablet itself. I get the notification when I insert it and the icon stays while it's in it. The card works fine in the Evo. Any ideas?

preyed said:
I've been trying to figure out how to transfer some files over to the SD; but when I go to settings, I never get the option to move to sd card. I tried two "App2SD" type apps and it's the same result. None of my apps have the option; the same ones on my Evo will transfer to the SD card. I'm using the microSD slot on the tablet itself. I get the notification when I insert it and the icon stays while it's in it. The card works fine in the Evo. Any ideas?
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From my understanding, honeycomb doesn't support apps2sd. Unfortunately.

The TF's internal storage isn't partitioned in the same way your EVO is - you have practically all the internal memory available for apps. Hence, A2SD isn't strictly required.
Regards,
Dave

So is the only way is to hook up the microsd and put the files our self?

Questions about Nexus 4 File Transfers and Internal Storage Structure

1) i noticed that even though the nexus 4 don't have an Sd card slot and only internal storage, the internal storage is emulated as an external sd card. i found this when using espxe and also es file explorer to browse through the folders. so is this true, the internal storage on the nexus 4 is emulated as external sd card? is this true for all android devices too?
2) when i play my usb to to transfer files. it really did not matter which folder i put my files into cause all the apps read from the location and it'll scan all the folders in that location for the files anyway? for example even if i put a pdf inside the adobe reader folder or if i put it outside of the adobe folder, it'll still find it. so this means all android app reads from one top level folder?
again these are my speculations and i want to learn more about it, if anyone knows anything about this or knows any good links to sites that can explain these stuff to me, please link me. google's device support page only talks about very basic stuff, like how to use touch keyboard lol...

yes its emulated as external so is on samsung s2 and the micro sd card is usb storage.
the media scanner will look for new media after each transfer,
developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html

unable to transfer files to Nexus 4
jinjin12 - I just recently got my Nexus 4. what steps are you taking to trasnfer files onto the phone?
I can see the phone as a drive and I can browse the directories, but I am unable to actually transfer any files. I get some error about incorrect format and my only option is "ship" or Cancel, both obviously kills the transfer.
Once I get home I can show you the actually error dialogue.
I would appreciate your input.
Thanks.
ct13
jinjin12 said:
1) i noticed that even though the nexus 4 don't have an Sd card slot and only internal storage, the internal storage is emulated as an external sd card. i found this when using espxe and also es file explorer to browse through the folders. so is this true, the internal storage on the nexus 4 is emulated as external sd card? is this true for all android devices too?
2) when i play my usb to to transfer files. it really did not matter which folder i put my files into cause all the apps read from the location and it'll scan all the folders in that location for the files anyway? for example even if i put a pdf inside the adobe reader folder or if i put it outside of the adobe folder, it'll still find it. so this means all android app reads from one top level folder?
again these are my speculations and i want to learn more about it, if anyone knows anything about this or knows any good links to sites that can explain these stuff to me, please link me. google's device support page only talks about very basic stuff, like how to use touch keyboard lol...
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SD card as internal.

I have a 128 gb class 10 SD card. If I use it as internal can I still copy my 45gb of music through my computer?
Also what happened to the move to SD card option for apps?
I've also notice with Google play music you can't select SD card as storage for offline music.
I was pretty excited about this feature but I'm a little disappointed.
Maybe if I explore it a bit more I'll figure it out.

Spacemonkie4207 said:
I have a 128 gb class 10 SD card. If I use it as internal can I still copy my 45gb of music through my computer?
Also what happened to the move to SD card option for apps?
I've also notice with Google play music you can't select SD card as storage for offline music.
I was pretty excited about this feature but I'm a little disappointed.
Maybe if I explore it a bit more I'll figure it out.
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If you connect your Play (with adaptive storage active) to a computer via usb the computer cannot seem to veiw anything on the phone. So you can't copy anything to the phone. Not very good really.
If you go settings, apps and then select an app you then select storage of that app and you have the option to move the app from there. That said not all apps have the storage option including Google Play Music. I do find that MM manages storage between internal and the sd card very well when adaptive storage is used. It's not perfect though. My next phone will be bigger than 16gb which is silly in this day and age. Relying on cloud storage is all well and good but can be useless in some rural locations (UK) with no data service signal.
I'm a little disappointed but on the whole I've got past the limited storage of a 16gb phone. Note to self - don't EVER buy a 16gb phone again. The music thing I get round by using Google Music and Spotify. You can copy music to your phone via such as Solid Explorer and move music from your cloud service (Drive, dropbox etc) to your phone. Solid Explorer and others can see folders and files on your phone.

You should be able to set the "Storage Location" in the Downloading section of Google Music's settings screen. Perhaps setting your SD card as internal memory removes your ability to select it though.

Spacemonkie4207 said:
I have a 128 gb class 10 SD card. If I use it as internal can I still copy my 45gb of music through my computer?
Also what happened to the move to SD card option for apps?
I've also notice with Google play music you can't select SD card as storage for offline music.
I was pretty excited about this feature but I'm a little disappointed.
Maybe if I explore it a bit more I'll figure it out.
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Move to SD card option is gone with MM.
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K.khiladi said:
Move to SD card option is gone with MM.
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Can I use my card as internal but somehow copy my music to it?

Chaotic-Entropy said:
You should be able to set the "Storage Location" in the Downloading section of Google Music's settings screen. Perhaps setting your SD card as internal memory removes your ability to select it though.
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Yeah it does, option is gone with sd card as internal. Hopefully they fix it.

Spacemonkie4207 said:
Can I use my card as internal but somehow copy my music to it?
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The move to SD card option won't be back now until Google wants that and that doesn't seem happening.
You can't do anything with your card once it's formatted as internal storage. The system will automatically decide what to do.
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K.khiladi said:
The move to SD card option won't be back now until Google wants that and that doesn't seem happening.
You can't do anything with your card once it's formatted as internal storage. The system will automatically decide what to do.
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I've heard it can kill the SD card very quickly because of cache and number of reads and writes. How much truth is there to this?

Anyone else is having problems formatting his sd card as internal storage in marshmallow? my phone gets stuck at 30% formatting and never finishes, and i tried factory resetting. Formatting as portable storage works just fine.
any ideas?

Just wondering... Which size? I would assume that there could be a max size per partition...

Spacemonkie4207 said:
I've heard it can kill the SD card very quickly because of cache and number of reads and writes. How much truth is there to this?
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Not much, the card might be worn out quicker but your still looking at 3 to 5 years with heavy writes and by that time you will probably have changed phone.

dreinulldrei said:
Just wondering... Which size? I would assume that there could be a max size per partition...
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64 gb, but i've heard people with other devices that managed to make it work with 128gb cards
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About the adoptable storage in Android M and its work description (basing on analysis of upstream AOSP M code i did some time ago; note that there may be little differences depending on changes done by phone vendors for different devices).
There are 2 possible states of external storage (SD card in particular), the second one being available only if it is enabled in device configuration before build:
- portable - only accessible with Storage Access Framework and file browser in Settings app; most of the media apps won't see media files stored on external storage, as media scanner is disabled for this type of storage
- internal - external storage is wiped and encrypted with the same key as the very device (so factory reset will cause data loss, as then encryption key is changed, and after moving the storage to other device it content will be unavailable); this one has two substates
- - data not migrated: apps data and user data is being kept on internal storage; only internal storage is visible via MTP; if I remember correctly, external storage can be used only for moving apps installation on it in this case
- - data migrated: apps data and user data is moved to external storage and it replaces internal storage for user and app data storing; only external storage is visible via MTP (internal storage is used only for keeping system files and apps installations in this case); I would recommend not formatting SD card this way if it has lower capacity than internal storage.
About the issue of never ending formatting as internal: as the data is fully wiped from the card, new filesystem is created, and there is an overhead for encryption, this operation is time consuming. By default there is quite short timeout set for the operation, and if it is hit, formatting as internal will be aborted (leaving card in broken state). I suggest getting very fast card for this use (especially if it has high capacity), so for 128G the ones that people get to work were most probably ones with around 90+MB/s R/W performance.

Spacemonkie4207 said:
Can I use my card as internal but somehow copy my music to it?
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Yes. I was wrong earlier in this post. If you plug your phone into computer then from drop down menu on phone select MTP rather than charge only, you can then see all files on sd card. You should be able to copy files across as usual. Seems to work on mine with adaptive storage enabled. You can only see files on the sd card and not internal memory.

I have bought a 64gb sd card with 90MB/s read and 80 MB/s write. I hope it works now.

I formatted my SD card as internal but ran out of space. Although storage showed I had 50+ GB free I couldn't install anything.
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You can move some apps to sd card which will free up some space on internal. Not all apps give you the option though. I reverted back from adaptive storage.

Apps like Spotify don't save music data to "adopted" SD card. Google Music seems to have similar issue. I keep my music content on the SD card - do that is a bit of an issue for me that Google "hates" my SD card .
Maybe this issue will be resolved in future android/app updates.

One thing - Change your storage for pictures taken through camera to SD card
Also move songs that you download to SD card as they get stored to internal storage.
Dont format your SD card if you want to see the data in your SD card on pc and file managers.
Let the apps install on internal.
Try to move every other data to SD card periodically.
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habskilla said:
I formatted my SD card as internal but ran out of space. Although storage showed I had 50+ GB free I couldn't install anything.
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Thats bonkers, i thought the whole point of adopted storage was you just ended up with one bigger lump of memory.

transfering apps to the SD card

Can someone check the ability to transfer apps to the SD card? I have a Verizon S7 Edge, when I transfer an app to the SD card it says it moves but nothing seems to happen. The amount to storage on the card doesn't change and no new files are created. I have tried this with Audible and Strava.

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Can someone check the ability to transfer apps to the SD card? I have a Verizon S7 Edge, when I transfer an app to the SD card it says it moves but nothing seems to happen. The amount to storage on the card doesn't change and no new files are created. I have tried this with Audible and Strava.
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Yes, seems to be broken for me as well, it says to move and also shows it being on the external sd in the application manager afterwards, but the taken storage is the same on internal and external. It did create the subfolder in Android/obb for me on the external sd, but it was empty. I also tried to move the file within the folder by hand into the folder on the external, but the game simply wouldn't load afterwards (tried it with Implosion), just stayed on a black screen after the first starting screen.

Ok, found the problem, when you move the app from internal storage to external sd from within settings - > applications, it moves parts of the app from the internal data folder to the Android folder on the internal sd, what is pretty pointless...
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You could enable Adoptable Storage so that some of your external SD card will be used for internal memory: http://www.modaco.com/news/android/heres-how-to-configure-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/

I know, but even while i have a class 10 card, i don't want the speed impact when putting all on the sd, also I'd like to use the internal storage to its full potential and just put some certain apps to the external sd, but thanks anyways.
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Samsung disabled the adaptive storage option. Here is the response I got from Samsung on the app data issue. I looks like they know the data isn't moving.
"I have checked our resources and found that whenever an app is moved to the SD card, only the app and the dependencies of the application for the Operating System to identify the app on the SD card are only moved. Data associated with the app is not moved to the SD card.
Let’s hope that our future updates should allow the user to move the apps data to the SD card along with the app.
I would have surely helped you if there was any other option to move the apps data to the SD card.
I appreciate your time in writing to us. "

Argh, how annoying is this? My s7 is doing exactly the same. Nothing is actually being transferred to the sd card with their move to sd tool! I'm glad I bought a 64gb card especially (not) grrr!

Just had a thought. Has anyone tried this with an encrypted SD card? Maybe that's why....

Any custom ROM which allow to use SD card completely?

Hello Guys,
my P8 is currently running out of memory. I have inserted a 64GB SD Card and I've already set the main memory path to SD Card BUT as of an update has been released for any of my apps, the app will be moved back from external memory to internal.
I also recognized the external storage cannot be used completely as internal storage.
To be honest, my P8 is currently so slow, it doesn't make fun to use this phone any more Also no way to free up some internal space.

jigg3 said:
Also no way to free up some internal space.
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What else have you tried so far to free up space?
Certain apps (especially music, video & photo ones) can accumulate a lot of unnecessary cache (& sometimes data), so clearing this up can help a lot - you can use the inbuilt 'Phone Manager' for this or a third-party cleaning app. For cleaning app data, you may want to be more careful, checking each one individually before deciding to clean (ask if in doubt).
Also, in the 'Phone Manager' app > Storage > Storage manager, you can view what kinds of files are taking up the most space in the internal storage. Then decide to move whatever is possible to the external card - using something like the free ES File Explorer app you can move all camera-taken photos+videos (plus other photos+videos if present), music, personal documents & probably everything in the Download folder to the external card.
Some more & related tips in this article to free up space: Five Ways to Free Up Space on Your Android Device
If space is still a problem after doing all the above, consider doing what it says in this article, including using the external card as adoptable storage (you may want to get a faster card for the latter though): How to Set Up a New SD Card in Android for Extra Storage
Another related article: How do I free up space on my Android phone?
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Check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/general/enabling-storage-adoption-marshmallow-t3318300/page1