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Unlocked Hero on AT&T -- will I get updates?

So that's it-- will I get updates without hacking the phone since it's unlocked? I'm not really looking to hack, ROM, etc.
Also-- the locale I had to choose was definitely not the US. Philippines, Singapore and Thailand were my options... so far this hasn't caused me any problems. Does it matter?
Data & SMS/MMS are working great. I am in LOVE.
Finally, is there a way to disable the HTC theming? I love it the way it is but would like to get a better understanding of what is pure Android and what is the HTC theming?
Thanks and best regards,
THATCH

thatchman1 said:
So that's it-- will I get updates without hacking the phone since it's unlocked? I'm not really looking to hack, ROM, etc.
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I believe the Android phones currently on the market use an OTA (over the air) updating feature. Since AT&T does not have the Hero, they are not going to be providing updates. To get updated software/firmware, you would have to download and install a ROM, either from here or HTC's website.
Also-- the locale I had to choose was definitely not the US. Philippines, Singapore and Thailand were my options... so far this hasn't caused me any problems. Does it matter?
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If you are fine running a non-US locale, then more power to you. The first thing I did when I got my Hero was to install a custom ROM on it which included an application which let me set US as an locale.

martey said:
I believe the Android phones currently on the market use an OTA (over the air) updating feature. Since AT&T does not have the Hero, they are not going to be providing updates. To get updated software/firmware, you would have to download and install a ROM, either from here or HTC's website.
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Thus far, the GSM Hero has never received an OTA update, though the facility does exist. The update to 2.73 was delivered as an RUU that you needed to manually load onto the phone. I expect future updates to be delivered the same way.
Regards,
Dave

OTA Released (Root for manual update) - Flash on Market MAR18 (Leaked)

Motorola XOOM users on the Verizon Wireless network: starting tonight, a maintenance release is rolling out to you in phases, so watch for a notification on your device that will tell you when it’s ready for download. The update includes required enhancements to support Adobe® Flash® Player 10.2 (coming soon); it also includes a fix for a bug we identified with Daylight Savings time, so be sure to install it!
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No flash, just support for it... http://www.facebook.com/motorola
Update: Flash 10.2 announced release on market MAR18 http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2011/03/update-on-flash-player-10-2-for-mobile-devices.html
And, Flash leaked! http://www.multiupload.com/5FOUMVZI32
Manual OTA instructions via Koush (ROOT REQUIRED): http://www.koushikdutta.com/2011/03/manually-updating-your-rooted-xoom.html

well, maybe this will fix my wierd clock issue today... hmmm

At least this shows how quickly updates will come... I guess.

how will us with wifi only get this?

Any update is good news at this point I think. I wonder if there is any harm in updating, ie will it remove the ability to root and what not? I wish they would provide more details on what exactly the patch does. Also, it clearly says on the Verizon network, what about those not on it and are only on wifi?
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Sirchuk said:
Any update is good news at this point I think. I wonder if there is any harm in updating, ie will it remove the ability to root and what not? I wish they would provide more details on what exactly the patch does. Also, it clearly says on the Verizon network, what about those not on it and are only on wifi?
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MY droid always popped up updates even when I was only on wifi. I imagine we'll all get it or someone will post the update.zip anyway.

I'm curious if the Tegra 2 versions of flash (10.1) floating around will have something to interact with, and start functioning. They have with everything else. As soon as I get the OTA (no 3G), I have a folder full of them in my Dropbox.

AndyMan386 said:
how will us with wifi only get this?
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Through WiFi?

Droid-Life has some more details.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/1...tonight-includes-adobe-flash-10-2/#more-28145

Why cant people do more research?
Wifi only will get the update too...
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/1...olling-out-tonight-includes-adobe-flash-10-2/

Has anyone figured out how to force a check in on the Xoom?

Inphinitizeit said:
Has anyone figured out how to force a check in on the Xoom?
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Question of the day. No dialer :/

yesssssssssssss

Glad to see an update but there is nothing listed to get excited about except a possible problem with the upcoming daylight savings time switch. Who cares about the flash update since it does not actually include it. But this will be a good test run to see how the updates are sent out and applied.

Cann't wait for the update to start

ZanshinG1 said:
Question of the day. No dialer :/
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You can force a check by rebooting. Not the best method, but it works.

Why do unlocked xooms need to get relocked?
I understand why you need to be on stock boot.img but i don't understand why you need to have the device relocked to get the update.
It makes no sense.

ZanshinG1 said:
You can force a check by rebooting. Not the best method, but it works.
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According to the system update tab this didn't happen in 3 reboots since the announcement. Still last check at 5:20. Really want to see if any of the 10.1 Tegra versions work after this. I've been frantic to have Flash lately (PlayOn/Netflix).
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morbos said:
According to the system update tab this didn't happen in 3 reboots since the announcement. Still last check at 5:20. Really want to see if any of the 10.1 Tegra versions work after this. I've been frantic to have Flash lately (PlayOn/Netflix).
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It might have a minimum time between checkins. Mine said 9:20am, then showed current time for last checkin when I rebooted.

So would it be fair to say that those of us who have rooted should wait until this update is released to see if in fact we really do need to revert back to stock/locked condition? Because I'd really be pissed if we had to lose all of the data on our Xooms just for this update, when very few of us have actually changed anything with the boot.img, etc. I mean back when I first rooted my N1 but before I flashed custom ROMs, I never had to wipe back to stock to receive OTA updates, so why would that be the case here??

Xoom UK ics

Does anyone know if and when motorola is going to release ics for UK xoom's..?? I've searched the web and asked Motorola and nothing.???
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The UK is scheduled for the ICS update 2ND quarter 2012
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does anyone think its worth flashing a US rom just to get this update?

Stillkrazy said:
does anyone think its worth flashing a US rom just to get this update?
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very much so.

Yep - I bought a Xoom with ICS already on and its great!

Geeba said:
Yep - I bought a Xoom with ICS already on and its great!
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Really!? where was that from. I only got mine a week ago but had 3.2 on it, i've since rooted and have CM9 on it but wondering where yours was from?

Stillkrazy said:
does anyone think its worth flashing a US rom just to get this update?
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Yes the best thing I ever did it's a really decent machine now

Got tired of waiting, so I've flashed the USA firmware of ics... Wow.. Is all I can say...! Like have a new device..!
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matt4321 said:
Really!? where was that from. I only got mine a week ago but had 3.2 on it, i've since rooted and have CM9 on it but wondering where yours was from?
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Off my boss at work! - I guess it has the US ICS on it... but its really nice.

Any problems...
Are there any downsides to using a US rom?
For example:
Keyboard Layouts
Access to Apps from the Play Store
Access to other content from the Play Store
Other regonalization issues
On the flip sides, apart from the benefits of ICS itself, what would I gain from switching to a US rom as a UK user?
That's a pretty generic question, sorry, but I'd love ICS and would wait, but if there's no downsides I'll get it now.
Thanks

imorital said:
Are there any downsides to using a US rom?
For example:
Keyboard Layouts
Access to Apps from the Play Store
Access to other content from the Play Store
Other regonalization issues
On the flip sides, apart from the benefits of ICS itself, what would I gain from switching to a US rom as a UK user?
That's a pretty generic question, sorry, but I'd love ICS and would wait, but if there's no downsides I'll get it now.
Thanks
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Made the same switch myself and glad i did
keyboard layouts - pretty much the same apart from the £ and $
Play Store - Not had any issues myself and the prices comes up in £
being on a US rom means your going to get ota updates quicker than the uk

I briefly installed the US ROM, but quickly changed to team EOS due to the US locale annoying me!
- US Keyboard Layout
- US date format
- US English spelling (Damn annoying with autocorrect!)
I also need to occasionally write in German, so the lack of other languages (except Spanish IIRC) was also a problem for me!

I have been running the US ROM since HC 3.1 - not had any issues really
I thought the UK language keyboard stuff was in ICS now? if not then I havent noticed an issue at all - market is still all english anyway - it doesn't go on ROM region for the apps

So at the risk of being stupid...
So at the risk of being stupid... I'm guessing it's possible to switch back should I hit any locale issues?
The way I read it if I flash to a US Rom, I should be able to flash to the UK variant when it is released (should I decide to bother).
Assuming I do go ahead:
1. If I stay on the US Rom will OTA updates work?
2. Similarly, if I can then switch to UK ICS, should OTA updates continue to work for this too?
Apologies for the newbie posts, I have been reading the boards for a long time, but what I've remembered in my addled brain has left me somewhat confused.
TIA.

imorital said:
So at the risk of being stupid... I'm guessing it's possible to switch back should I hit any locale issues?
The way I read it if I flash to a US Rom, I should be able to flash to the UK variant when it is released (should I decide to bother).
Assuming I do go ahead:
1. If I stay on the US Rom will OTA updates work?
2. Similarly, if I can then switch to UK ICS, should OTA updates continue to work for this too?
Apologies for the newbie posts, I have been reading the boards for a long time, but what I've remembered in my addled brain has left me somewhat confused.
TIA.
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Yep
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Hmmm yeah mine updated to 4.0.4 last night... not had any issues... never even noticed the keyboard layout...

what is the difference between us/uk roms? WiFi/3G roms?

market enabler
imorital said:
Are there any downsides to using a US rom?
For example:
Keyboard Layouts
Access to Apps from the Play Store
Access to other content from the Play Store
Other regonalization issues
On the flip sides, apart from the benefits of ICS itself, what would I gain from switching to a US rom as a UK user?
That's a pretty generic question, sorry, but I'd love ICS and would wait, but if there's no downsides I'll get it now.
Thanks
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I haven't tried putting us firmware on but if there are region issues in the marketplace then market enabler should sort it out.

neblap said:
The UK is scheduled for the ICS update 2ND quarter 2012
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Now in Q3, still no update. I have been avoiding it but flashing is becoming a very attractive option for us newbies, thanks Motorola for letting us inexpierenced users tamper with our devices just for an update

m14dmx said:
Now in Q3, still no update. I have been avoiding it but flashing is becoming a very attractive option for us newbies, thanks Motorola for letting us inexpierenced users tamper with our devices just for an update
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You should definately unlock your boot loader and flash the US image, I did mine last week and it was easy, got sick of waiting for Moto to release UK ICS
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New hangouts app (lag free)

Just got the new version of hangouts. The update includes a lot of things I don't care about but it is also lag free on my note 4.
love it!!! You can download it here if you want to try it out
https://docs.google.com/a/freitas-f...tZjPJiezNWdaTGNuSmtlNVk/edit?usp=docslist_api
FIXED LINK, PUBLIC NOW.
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Hmm, didn't even notice the update.
Thanks all the same.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
Just got the new version of hangouts. The update includes a lot of things I don't care about but it is also lag free on my note 4.
love it!!! You can download it here if you want to try it out https://docs.google.com/a/freitas-f...tZjPJiezNWdaTGNuSmtlNVk/edit?usp=docslist_api
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make it public plz, it's requesting permission

Same here. Had to request permission

My bad. Here is the public link https://docs.google.com/a/freitas-f...tZjPJiezNWdaTGNuSmtlNVk/edit?usp=docslist_api
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masri1987 said:
make it public plz, it's requesting permission
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Fixed it. My bad.
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yesssss i got this earlier today and i'm so happy i can finally run the latest hangouts without any damn lag on this phone.
now that OTA is rolling out, and we must avoid it like the plague if we're interested in root...lol

Thanks! Anyone know whats up with that OTA? I did it, but no Android L.

Yeah I know. No OTA... I have a feeling root won't take much longer...
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Thanks so much for the heads up on this. So much better now.

rgvsdigitalpimp said:
Thanks! Anyone know whats up with that OTA? I did it, but no Android L.
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There will be no Lollipop for US carriers until months after the international phones get it. There is a lot of back and forth between carriers and Samsung...this has always been the case and always will be. Whenever you see talks of a model getting an OS update and release date, it is ALWAYS the international version and then you may see "speculation" as to when "some" of the US carriers will start rolling it out.

KennyG123 said:
There will be no Lollipop for US carriers until months after the international phones get it. There is a lot of back and forth between carriers and Samsung...this has always been the case and always will be. Whenever you see talks of a model getting an OS update and release date, it is ALWAYS the international version and then you may see "speculation" as to when "some" of the US carriers will start rolling it out.
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Didn't the Verizon S4 get a couple updates first? Not just U.S. first, but first first?

Hangouts is finally usable lol i remember when i first had s4 it got so bad sometimes
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twolasrnames said:
Didn't the Verizon S4 get a couple updates first? Not just U.S. first, but first first?
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No. They are still on 4.4.2. Most others are 4.4.4.

KennyG123 said:
No. They are still on 4.4.2. Most others are 4.4.4.
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I'm not talking about the 4.4.4 update, I'm talking other updates, 4.3, and I think the update that fixed moving apps to the SD card.
Plus, the 4.4.4 update is kind of pointless for the S4 right? Didn't Samsung make all the fixes in that update in the 4.4.2 update?

Awesome update, thanks for posting!

twolasrnames said:
I'm not talking about the 4.4.4 update, I'm talking other updates, 4.3, and I think the update that fixed moving apps to the SD card.
Plus, the 4.4.4 update is kind of pointless for the S4 right? Didn't Samsung make all the fixes in that update in the 4.4.2 update?
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That is not correct. The international S4 got 4.3 2 weeks before Verizon and the only reason 4.3 was rushed to all devices was because it added Galaxy Gear compatibility. Sammy and US carriers wanted to make sure everyone bought phone and watch combos for the holidays. Verizon was the first US carrier to release... And I am sure all for monetary reasons. They had to release bug fixes soon after.

As of yesterday my lag free hangouts are now back to being laggy, not as bad but it's there again back to textra I go.

Official Samsung TouchWiz Home on the Google Play Store not compatible

I'm trying to understand why the Official Samsung TouchWiz Home app on the Google Play Store is not compatible with my S8+. The following article mentions that there is a new update available:
http://www.androidauthority.com/touchwiz-home-update-lag-galaxy-s8-783442/
Is this a region specific issue? Is anyone in Canada able to do the update?

Title101 said:
I'm trying to understand why the Official Samsung TouchWiz Home app on the Google Play Store is not compatible with my S8+. The following article mentions that there is a new update available:
http://www.androidauthority.com/touchwiz-home-update-lag-galaxy-s8-783442/
Is this a region specific issue? Is anyone in Canada able to do the update?
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I have updated it now but no changes
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Title101 said:
I'm trying to understand why the Official Samsung TouchWiz Home app on the Google Play Store is not compatible with my S8+. The following article mentions that there is a new update available:
http://www.androidauthority.com/touchwiz-home-update-lag-galaxy-s8-783442/
Is this a region specific issue? Is anyone in Canada able to do the update?
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In this case you can always use alternative site to download app
http://mobile.softpedia.com/apk/touchwiz-home/6.1.09.2/

Windforce0511 said:
In this case you can always use alternative site to download app
http://mobile.softpedia.com/apk/touchwiz-home/6.1.09.2/
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Thanks for the suggestion, that is always an option. TouchWiz Home is currently behind two versions on my device. I should be getting the June security update soon. I will check to see if it gets updated then. In the mean time, I was hoping someone from Canada could confirm if they have the same issue that I have.

I'm in the same boat. Also says not compatible.
US here

Title101 said:
Thanks for the suggestion, that is always an option. TouchWiz Home is currently behind two versions on my device. I should be getting the June security update soon. I will check to see if it gets updated then. In the mean time, I was hoping someone from Canada could confirm if they have the same issue that I have.
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You won't get it with June update. Btw I can download it through play store using Galaxy S6 and S8 Port rom.

Mine says the same on the play store, pretty messed up. On the latest version of TW home they have fixed the horrible lag when opening and closing the swipe up or down app drawer. everything seems to run just a little bit smoother.
heres the latest apk for those who are looking for it.

The update came in and it's working now. I wonder if Samsung may have been staggering the updates or there was some kind of delay caused by the play store.

For some reason, shortly after I did the update it went back to not being compatible and it has been that way since. It appears to still be the same version that I currently have but I wonder what will happen when the next update comes.