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What GPS settings do I have to use to get TomTom 6 or Route66 working?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
(T-Mobile Ameo)

pgerr said:
What GPS settings do I have to use to get TomTom 6 or Route66 working?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
(T-Mobile Ameo)
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set it to COM 5, and set to other bluetooth device.

gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.

hx4700spain said:
gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.
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i am going out to test the GPS now, will post later

please
gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.

hx4700spain said:
please
gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.
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3 mins on the first signal setup

ok thank you.
this is with tomtom or igo ?

hx4700spain said:
ok thank you.
this is with tomtom or igo ?
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this is with TomTom

in cold it takes three minutes?
but in hot?

hx4700spain said:
in cold it takes three minutes?
but in hot?
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That was in hot by the way, didn't try cold, should be quicker than 3 mins

in hot it is less time not than in cold that gps needs but time to find satellite for the first time not?

hx4700spain said:
in hot it is less time not than in cold that gps needs but time to find satellite for the first time not?
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sorry, when you say cold and hot, what do you mean?

in cold it means that it is the first time that takes satellite after a soft reset and in hot second or third time that takes satellite. how long in cold and hot?
thank you.

hx4700spain said:
in cold it means that it is the first time that takes satellite after a soft reset and in hot second or third time that takes satellite. how long in cold and hot?
thank you.
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oh, ok, so first time is about 3 mins, after is about 2 mins, but i must say i only tested once. And i can't test anymore now because my mini-sd is broken!!!! Can not format it in anyway, so until my new-mini sd comes, i won't be able to use TomTom, will let you guys know when i have more info.
Anyway, i also need to say, from the test i did, the signal doesn't seems very stable, it keep dropping out and reconnect it again....

time
i use totom 6.030 and I-go 2006 with update from jan 2007
in max 1-2 min location is fixed...
i install ALL cards on microdrive NOT in sd card
i have internal with this microsoft gps programm port 4 routed to port5 ..
regards

I have iGo 2006 without 2007 updates. In cold start it takes a lot of time, abt 2 min on Ameo. In my opinion, more then with HTC Tytn or Asus P525. I didn't measure it with a watch. And also because the GPS antenna is internal in Ameo it looks like the signal is less stable then when you have a GPS device connected to a phone via bluetooth.

Buch070 said:
I have iGo 2006 without 2007 updates. In cold start it takes a lot of time, abt 2 min on Ameo. In my opinion, more then with HTC Tytn or Asus P525. I didn't measure it with a watch. And also because the GPS antenna is internal in Ameo it looks like the signal is less stable then when you have a GPS device connected to a phone via bluetooth.
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I tend to agree with you...I'm using Advantage with iGo2007 and have the same feeling...the internal GPS is not quite stable and it's dramatically worse than used with Trinity. When I'm in desperate need for current location I prefer to use an external BT GPS than Athena's internal one.
It seems that it does not react properly, since the connetion seems to be OK.

Just a side note: the GPS receiver seems to be placed on the side bearing the HTC logo, not on the side with the Opera hardware button... I tried to use Tomtom in my car with the PDA upright (joystick at the bottom) and it didn't manage to get a fix... When I turn the PDA in landscape mode, with the HTC logo on the top, it works a lot better (cold fix in the car after 1 or two minutes).

zoharbl said:
I tend to agree with you...I'm using Advantage with iGo2007 and have the same feeling...the internal GPS is not quite stable and it's dramatically worse than used with Trinity. When I'm in desperate need for current location I prefer to use an external BT GPS than Athena's internal one.
It seems that it does not react properly, since the connetion seems to be OK.
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I don't find this. I have a TomTom mkII bluetooth as well as the Ameo. I find that the Ameo is often quicker to get a fix. TomTOm navigator 6 I find the slowest. friends tell me that Igo (with the 2007 maps) is much quicker at getting a fix.

apd said:
I don't find this. I have a TomTom mkII bluetooth as well as the Ameo. I find that the Ameo is often quicker to get a fix. TomTOm navigator 6 I find the slowest. friends tell me that Igo (with the 2007 maps) is much quicker at getting a fix.
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I find this hard to believe: I think the fix is made (or not) by the GPS chip itself, which gives the current position to the nav software every second. The time to fix should not depend on the software.

How slow is tomtom navigator 6 on the mda

I am wondering if it is a decent solution for satnav or if i need to front over for the full gps unit.
I am concerned that on either the dash or the mda it will be too slow.
Anyone using it? I dl a er.. trial version but it won't load without a gps locator installed - so i can't demo it. I don't like using cracked software, but i really don't want to shell out 300 for all of this just to find out it's barely usable and for 100 more i could get a 910.

Its fine on teh Wiz. There are versions that work on the Dash, but its much more of a PITA.

I use tomtom on my phone and i find that it is not so slow!!! Some times it is due to the gps unit i find! If it is not clear skies it take a little long to update on the phone, but i dont misses roads so that is the main thing i guess.

Yeah TomTom 6 works awesome on my MDA. Highly recommend.

h00ligan said:
I am wondering if it is a decent solution for satnav or if i need to front over for the full gps unit.
I am concerned that on either the dash or the mda it will be too slow.
Anyone using it? I dl a er.. trial version but it won't load without a gps locator installed - so i can't demo it. I don't like using cracked software, but i really don't want to shell out 300 for all of this just to find out it's barely usable and for 100 more i could get a 910.
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Takes a few seconds to start up but runs flawlessly once started.

Zzan said:
Takes a few seconds to start up but runs flawlessly once started.
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Ok just did some testing for you!!
At normall it works great
CPU set at 220, it works like a super sonic beast

im using TM6 on my MDA using i-Trek M6 GPS receiver and it's working great for me.

GPS problems

Hi all,
Ive recently got a Diamond and after doing a few tweaks & so on I love it, its an amazing phone. But Im having one problem with the GPS to work...
Ive got TomTom Navigator 7 installed and when im outside works fine, but when im in the house I can get a signal(unstandable) the problem is its the same when im in my car, i mean cmon if the GPS reciever in the Diamond isnt good enough to be used in a car!!!
Any ideas?? or is it something ill just have to live with & not use!
Thanks

try igo 8 works fine in the car for me.
i bet loads of people will say tomtom works for them though.

Sounds strange
alias666 said:
Hi all,
Ive recently got a Diamond and after doing a few tweaks & so on I love it, its an amazing phone. But Im having one problem with the GPS to work...
Ive got TomTom Navigator 7 installed and when im outside works fine, but when im in the house I can get a signal(unstandable) the problem is its the same when im in my car, i mean cmon if the GPS reciever in the Diamond isnt good enough to be used in a car!!!
Any ideas?? or is it something ill just have to live with & not use!
Thanks
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Sounds strange. I have tried TomTom 7 and iGO8 and both of them works fine. When I'm in my house i cannot find a GPS signal. But then when i go outside (and in a car) the signal works fine.
Are you sure there isn't any disturbances in your area? The Diamond GPS works fine - i have driven a distance of 200 miles without the GPS falling off.
But the GPS sometimes has problems to connect in some areas. So Try do drive a little bit around - and don't just test it at your home (if thats what you've done.)
And remember to update the program "Fast GPS".
/Brunkage

arr ok ill try it tommorow when i drive to preston and im also going to search for GPS before i get in my car and see if that helps.
I am running origional ROM though so could this be the reason?

On TheTouchBlog.com Ive seen a Juicys ROM for the Diamond review, where Google Maps are installed and he got signal from 7 satelites in a basement of a house. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE??

Have you installed IP Phone ?
Look for another version then it works, I don'r find the link at the moment but I had same problem.

yea, did some proper testing today and its ok if i find the satalites before i get in my car worked fine all day so im happy.
Once again the Diamond prevails!!!

I have same problem, where can i find IP phone, and how will that help/ THANKS

GPS (Touch Pro) vs GPS (Xperia)

Do somebody know if there is any difference (in practical terms) in GPS implementation in both devices.
I've heard (unconfirmed) that Xperia could not use its GPS module without access to gsm network (it is capable only of aGPS) while Touch Pro could do both (aGPS as well as stand alone GPS).
Please let us know.
Thanx.

I haven't tested neither of them so I can't tell you about that, but what I can say is that the rumour you´ve heard (about only accessed to gsm network) is NOT true. aGPS is just like an ordinary GPS but with the assistance of the "a" (the gsm network) when and if available.

GPS
It makes sense. Thank you.

The Xperia has both network assisted gps and regular gps

the gps is in the qualcomm cpu same brand on both devices as i'm not wrong

Since both Pro and X1 use the same chipset for GPS, has anyone, who owned both, noticed any differences(or similarities) in the performance of X1?

Did someone test the fomous GPS lag issue in X1?

I have had a very positive experience with the xperia's gps.Outdoors (inside cars ofc) I can get a fresh gps fix within second. Indoors I usually get it in less than 2min but that prob depends on the building
cheers

Hi.
But what about the GPS lag issue of touch pro and Diamond?, you know, when you move (by car) and you stop then the arrow reaches you after some seconds (instead of stop in the moment), this is, the arrow is always 20m-60m behind you.

I can confirm that there is about one second of lag with the GPS while driving with a constant speed of ~80 km/h. Tested with the latest TomTom. This equates to about 20 m. I have yet to see a GPS receiver that doesnt have any lag though...

Thanks. Thats what I wanted to know

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Thanks. Thats what I wanted to know
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But have you seen any GPS that DOESN'T lag?
I am curious because the few I have seen, internal and external do lag also. I figure GPS by its nature HAS to lag, its the time it takes to get a signal off several satellites and triangulate your position from them.

Hi Alex.
Take a look to the diamod,s forum and touch pro forum and you will see what I am talking about. There are hundred of forum pages talking about it (in xda). I ve used gps devices since 10 years ago. With my latest devices (kaise, cruise) there wasnt that issue. But GPS lag in diamond make very hard to drive in a city. When theorically diamond shows you re in a cross really you are 50 meters passed and I loose many turns. Many people, me included, ve contacted with htc to report the issue and they say their people is trying to fix the problem.
Dani

Ah so "Its lag Jim but not as we know it!".
Fair enough, I hope the X1 doesn't suffer then but I have an external GPS for my Wizard anyway if it did.

hehe,
I ve an external gps bt too but I want to use the internal one. I am very sad about the diamond gps lag problem and I am going to sell it and buy a x1 if, and only if, gps lag isnt a problem with x1
ps: GPS performance is very important to me, did you notice it?

danielherrero said:
hehe,
I ve an external gps bt too but I want to use the internal one. I am very sad about the diamond gps lag problem and I am going to sell it and buy a x1 if, and only if, gps lag isnt a problem with x1
ps: GPS performance is very important to me, did you notice it?
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Of course, you're batman after all
Can't have you running into walls with the batmobile.

Well at least if you run into walls with the batmobile, the car isn't harmed.
Besides, if you followed GPS literally you would be driving on the sidewalk and through trees - at least according to Google Maps anyway.
That last few couple of meters of inaccuracy can be a real pain

Exactly!!. My bat-car hasnt windows to protect me against guns and rockets so I need to rely in the gps at 100%

By the way what gps software do you think is best for the Xperia ?

Alex Atkin UK said:
Well at least if you run into walls with the batmobile, the car isn't harmed.
Besides, if you followed GPS literally you would be driving on the sidewalk and through trees - at least according to Google Maps anyway.
That last few couple of meters of inaccuracy can be a real pain
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Well, at least you have an excuse!
"Officer, the GPS told me so, fine it! No, i'm not drunk. What's with the taser..."

GPS application for Android?

Ok, I am still waiting for HTC desire to come to my door. At the moment I am just wondering what GPS application available for Android (I mean like Garmin or Tomtom thing??) As I understand both Garmin and Tomtom are still unavailable. I know the phone should come with Google map? As I understand it google map require internet connection not just GPS? the thing is I dont have internet connection with my phone plan. I only use wifi or hotspot. So I need GPS application that can work just by using the built-in GPS? Besides the internet package here downunder in Aussie is pretty limited...too low capacity. I wish they have unlimited connection.

best ones are Copilot and Navigon

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best ones are Copilot and Navigon
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Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??

kuailan said:
Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??
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Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.

In China, KLD（凯立德） and Gaode（高德） have published NAV software based on android OS, and it run smoothly.

Aura is very nice indeed, but it wont be available soon.
I asked this to Sygic and they said that iPhone version will be available FIRST.
Then Android ...
Now you can wait for a year or two
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Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.
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Navigon
The trial version works great.
Once activated with a bought key it stops working.
Wierd.

I have CoPilot and Sygic on my Desire and both work fine.
I was not so impressed with Navigon.
I have iGO on my diamond and it beats all three of them qua quality, but must say Aura looks good.

i've just finished to install Igo Amigo for my Desire, and is working so good . For Europe (for me, I've been in many countries) is the best...for America, i think another one like tomtom you should choose.

If anyone is planning on using the hacked-to-work-outside-US Google navigation ("Maps brut"), I wouldn't bother. I've used it and decided it was no replacement for a proper paid GPS application. Turn by turn voice cues are erratic and often late or not-present, and for some reason the next road to be taken is always "unknown". I missed turns twice because of the lack of cues.
I used Google navigation for a 2 1/2 hour journey, in that time the phone went from 2/3 battery to severe battery warnings and red indicator. This was with an old, non-official car charger plugged in! I strongly suspect that the frequency of the screen update and the use of 3G are probably culprits, not to mention the frequent re-routing as I missed turns.
My old WinMo phone used to run CoPilot 7 and would do substantially better with no in-car charging.
What is the battery life like with the £20 CoPilot? Is a proper in-car charger a must for journeys > 3h?

I had some issues on copilot 7 WM with mapping. The maps were quite old and sometimes the routing was very odd. On test routes where I knew where I was going it would sometimes take me off in what I knew to be a longer way round by far. I'm sure there will be much newer maps on version 8.
The Navigon I find is very good but only annoying thing I find is landscape view. Between the bars on the software and the taskbar on the handset, the map only uses about half the available screen which is disappointing.
If anyone knows if it is possible to view more fullscreen please correct me.

Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.

fergusstrachan said:
Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.
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I'm not a cyclist, but shouldn't ANY of them do as long as you stick to the roads? I don't know of any that have off-road capability...

Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...

fergusstrachan said:
Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...
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I'm pretty sure you can tell CoPilot to ignore certain roads...

Co-pilot has a walking and a cycling mode. Haven't tried them out yet though.

Tom Tom release?
TomTom 6 om my Diamond was phenomenal, and was by far the most customisable for me. (downloading voices, maps, POI, speed cams etc). I know that TomTom are releasing a ver for Android soon, but does anyone know what the current developments are? Just waiting on my DESIRE now, and am ready to go!! If not anytime soon, I might have to settle with CoPilot, as it has Australia Maps, and South Africa maps (worldcup). How good is CoPilot is though Australia? Anyone know? And do I need an Internet connection to run it?

the best I tried so far and worked brilliantly even in Cyprus is sygic 10 mobile maps!

Navigon gets my vote.
Clear maps, works smooth.

I really like Navigon, look cool...except dont think there is NO map for Australia? Can anyone suggest anything that has Australian map?? I also want something that does not need internet connection?? (Google map is free but need internet) just plain GPS.