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Memory Enhancement

Is there something that will provide an enhancement to memory usage on a dinc that requires root. Like preventing apps from automatically running in background. Tired of using a task killer when memory gets down to very low levels.
Maybe a Rom that's efficient at doing this.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I think Autokiller is what you're looking for.

KGBxxx said:
Is there something that will provide an enhancement to memory usage on a dinc that requires root. Like preventing apps from automatically running in background. Tired of using a task killer when memory gets down to very low levels.
Maybe a Rom that's efficient at doing this.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I use Autostarts for this.

nstavr said:
I use Autostarts for this.
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+1 on autostarts. Instead of killing your apps, autostarts prevents them from starting.

And why do you need to kill these apps? Have they tried to injure you?
Seriously... you probably don't need to kill them unless one of them is acting up. The phone will free up memory as you need it.

Those look good. I'll try them out and see what works better.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
I haven't any of this, but maybe it will help you

I know the phone will free up memory as needed but I'm ocd about it and hate that at times it gets down below 40 and bogs the phone down. Tired of seeing apps start up by themselves. I used titanium to freeze apps but now don't remember what's frozen and what's installed on my system. Need something automatic and easier to maintain.
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K_flan that link is great. The guy understand where I'm coming from.
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KGBxxx said:
K_flan that link is great. The guy understand where I'm coming from.
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Awesome, I'm glad it may help... I just downloaded minfreemanager myself
Edit: only bad thing is changes are lost at reboot just using minfreemanager

KGBxxx said:
I know the phone will free up memory as needed but I'm ocd about it and hate that at times it gets down below 40 and bogs the phone down. Tired of seeing apps start up by themselves. I used titanium to freeze apps but now don't remember what's frozen and what's installed on my system. Need something automatic and easier to maintain.
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Autokiller does exactly what you are asking for...

App killers and battery life

I used to have advanced app killer and used to manually kill apps like crazy, but then I read that they actually hurt daily battery life. Do you guys still use them? It sucks to manually go into settings to stop apps. Discuss.
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og954 said:
I used to have advanced app killer and used to manually kill apps like crazy, but then I read that they actually hurt daily battery life. Do you guys still use them? It sucks to manually go into settings to stop apps. Discuss.
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They are counterproductive with the new versions of Android.
Use watch dog to monitor for "misbehaving apps"
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I have used Watchdog since I got my phone. It has twice alerted me that the browser was using extra cpus. It gives an option to kill the app right there so I did and everything was cool. Nice app.

1+ watchdog task killers were needed back in the day with 2.0 and below but android handles it pretty well nowadays

I only use it after boot up, but after that I only use it if I start getting lag.

Agreed. Avanced task killer and similar apps are rubish now days. Watchdog is Great because it alerts you about apps using top many resources.
New users and sales people tend to assume android uses ram like a computer does; the more free ram the beter. Android keeps certain apps available in ram so that its faster to open it you when needed. If the system requires more ram to function it will remove unused apps from memory.
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Thanks for the watchdog recommendation. I checked out the app in the market place and it looks pretty cool. So you guys use no app killers at all?
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i've with and without task killer, i always get longer battery life with, and have never had any issue's with using it.

No app killers period for me.

Amazing tip for RAM freeing (Requires ROOT)

Once ur device is Rooted, install system tuner pro, and disable some of the apps u have installed from play store, disable them from boot up, and use Ram booster pro when ever Ram get Full...
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Thank you for this.
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Hi,
But why do you want more free RAM? What's the point to having more free RAM?
With Android it is useless... You are happy with 500 Mb free RAM? Well, and about the multitasking?
You think your SIII will be faster, smoother or anything else with more free RAM? This is just the opposite
These kind of threads are....

More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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shaneel1491 said:
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
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Seriously you were just in the thread that discussed why more free RAM IS NOT BETTER. stop spreading ridiculous threads of misinformation please and thanks.

How can free Ram not be better??
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shaneel1491 said:
How can free Ram not be better??
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Google "how RAM management works in android"

If u do alot multitasking u should not have much free ram becuz all the apps running in backround. If u close backround apps to free some ram that means u just kill the ongoing multitasking ur phone is doing and next time u go back to ur previous app it has to be started again so it actually slowsdown ur phone when ur system actually needs more ram it kills the apps by it self... so no need for that much free ram :/
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But before, I used a Turbo downloader and every time I left the app and came back the download had failed, nw none of the apps are doing this any more...
This is just my way of being more efficient... If it doesn't work 4 u then that's fine, but it is awesome 4 me
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Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...

Free RAM on android systems is wasted ram.
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shaneel1491 said:
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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Ok, and...?
Android doesn't work like your computer (with Windows I presume) it's the opposite
You "would need lots of free RAM", it's for you not that the system needs
You have 150 apps with 100 mb of free RAM and now 380 mb of free RAM with you "tip", other than number of free RAM you see in System Tuner, What has changed???
Just the apps you use regularly/often are killed and when you open them they put so much time after like a reboot because they are not kept in memory...

viking37 said:
Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:

LiquidNarwhal said:
Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:
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Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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nodstuff said:
Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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Hi,
Ah ah ah I agree with you LOL!
I remember the thread about the CPU temp... , yes here it's the same...
A thread about RAM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802932 and there are others in this style

nodstuff said:
Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day

LET ANDROID MANAGE HER MEMORY
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Have a nice day LOL...

watsa said:
There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day
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I love a good quote!
Its so true though.
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When browsing the web and playing games on the S3 you'll often find a crash. This is because the device has low memory. Deleting apps that use this resource will help by not wasting the memory ie the RAM.
I think its fair to say that the S3 demonstrates that low ram is a reality. I wish people would stop trying to defend the phone by saying low RAM is wasted. Get over it. It is real. The S3 cannot multitask like the S2 because the ROM is packed full of ****e running which is using up the RAM.
Thanks to the OP for posting this.

and aside from what many people have said on how memory works in android,
take a look at settings > application manager > running > then click the bottom "show cached processes"
for those who like to use 3rd party memory managers they will included these cached processes in killing.
they may kill unnecessary processes but along with it those apps that you always use.
now after killing those cached processes, you will see the system caching a new list of apps and many of them are not the ones you use.
thus memory managers/task killers are just spending cpu cycles in turn battery power killing tasks/apps that you always use and when the system detects the free memory it will load apps into cache and usually those apps aren't the one you use.
thus kills the purpose of those task killers/memory managers of freeing memory since the system will just load apps into memory and cache them.

Program Like Backgrounder for Android?

i'm new to android. on IOS there is a cydia app called "backgrounder". i loved it because it let me redefine multitasking rules for certain programs. for example, for most programs, i made it so that the OS kills the program anytime i exit using the home button. now is there such a program for android that would let em do this? i don't want to have to manually kill app everytime, i want to make the OS do it by itself for the programs i specify.
google searches say no, but i'm still optimistic so if anyone knows, please reply.

Android does a great job of managing running applications, there is no need to kill them. If you do the app will just have to reload your battery life would go down. Also the nexus 4 has 2gb of ram. That will easily handle multitasking
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I have a question. Why? This isn't an iPhone. You have 2 GB RAM. Let the OS do it's thing. If you're really worried about it, use an app like Auto Memory Manager to make the OS more agressive.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.

estallings15 said:
I have a question. Why? This isn't an iPhone. You have 2 GB RAM. Let the OS do it's thing. If you're really worried about it, use an app like Auto Memory Manager to make the OS more agressive.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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not all apps in background are inactive though, some are actively running in the background and using resources/wasting battery life. i should not be worried about this?

You can do it straight on the phone under the development options in settings. You have to go into settings first and then phone info and tap on the build number until the tells you that you're a developer now. Then go into developer options and scroll down to apps. From there you can set it to do what you want.
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jinjin12 said:
not all apps in background are inactive though, some are actively running in the background and using resources/wasting battery life. i should not be worried about this?
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Using more ram doesn't drain battery. Most multitasked apps that aren't services don't even waste battery since they are put into hibernate
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hey dude checkout gemini app manager lets u turnoff autorun on those background apps!
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Is this normal RAM usage?

Hello,
I just got my T-Mobile G2 a couple of days ago. I don't have a lot of experience yet but I'm curious if this is the normal RAM usage vs availability. If so do you have any problems running high end games, apps, etc? I am presently on 4.4.2. I have used Titanium Backup to freeze a lot of system apps. This just seems like it could be an issue. I also use Greenify to hibernate some apps as well. Any thoughts on this?
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I would love to get an expert answer on this. I recently changed it PAC Man Rom and now it appears I have even less available memory. I'm not noticing any lag or anything but it just bugs me. I added up everything cached and running and it totalled like 364mb not even half a gig of ram. This phone has 2GB of ram. So I dunno just seems weird to me. I guess as long as it's not all laggy then that's what matters.
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Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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What good is the RAM if you don't use it?

XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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I guess my confusion is what happens if I've got 400 mb of ram and I go to play GTA San Andreas... Lol. Will it pull it off? Guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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Yeah, the more RAM used the better. I'm using PA3.99RC2 with a kernel (I forget where I got it; just says d800 custom 5 cm) that doesn't use enough RAM. I always have 700-800MB free. I don't know what sysctl changes I can make to increase RAM use. I hope my phone isn't using a swap on its slow mobile phone NAND .

You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.

coowkeee said:
You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.
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I have Greenify. But nevertheless I played Riptide GP2 earlier with full graphics. Smooth as butter. Good enough for me. :thumbup:
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