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OTA Update and unRevoked

Newbie question - I had installed unRevoked last week on my stock EVO to try out the wi-fi tether app. My device does not seem to have recieved the update today. Shouldn't I be able to force it through Settings --> System Updates --> HTC Software update ??
Or does the fact that I have unRevoked block it?
I tried uninstalling unRevoked, but it still looks like I can't force the update?
Any ideas?

You will loose root if you apply it.
https://twitter.com/unrevoked
Worse yet if you accidentally apply twice you brick your phone.

Can't get the update?
Thanks - I was less worried about not being able to unRevoke - what has me worried is I can't seem to force the update and I haven't gotten any message that it's available?

I think it is a rollout update. Wait it out.

a question
I've been following the 'how to gain root access after OTA' thread and have a question, but they don't want people posting anything not DIRECTLY RELATED to hacking after OTA there anymore. So, I will try this question here. Here goes :
I have NOT done the 1.47.651 June 29 OTA update, I keep refusing it. My Evo is essentially stock (no rooting, no unrevoked, etc. ) I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA. also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked. Or do I need unrevoked2?
I've been to unrevoked Twitter page and unrevoked docu.wiki and see some information, (but not enough for someone new to Android like myself), and no way to ask/post questions directly. So, I am trying here. My main interest isn't even so much root, it's that I want to be able to tether via USB without having to use extra software like PDAnet.
Any help or a point in the right direction, much thanks.
Scott

scottspa74 said:
I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA.
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Yes.
scottspa74 said:
also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked.
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No.
scottspa74 said:
Or do I need unrevoked2?
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You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )

pdlboy said:
Yes.
No.
You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
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Thank you. You even broke it into separate questions. last clarification, I promise: with no OTA I CAN use unrevoked1 and that doesn't break 4G/not what's being blamed for breaking 4G?
I'm not too concerned with most of the root features, I just wanna be able to tether, so I'm thinking unrevoked1 would be good enough for me, (if It's not what's responsible for breaking 4G on non-updated devices)
Thanks again.

Hi all I'm new

Need help to root my evo4g so I can use roms ect.... plz help
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Go Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245 read, learn, execute.

Helpful Threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
First, read all of the threads above.
Then, after you find out what your firmware version is, read the threads below.
Also, make sure you use the search button, it's your friend. Welcome to XDA
1.47.651.1 ROOT method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Original Firmware ROOT method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004

Well since this is here, I'd like to throw in a question about root.
Does a simple root allow the user to uninstall applications?
Here's another one.
Does the latest OTA root method require a previous root.

Plancy said:
Well since this is here, I'd like to throw in a question about root.
Does a simple root allow the user to uninstall applications?
Here's another one.
Does the latest OTA root method require a previous root.
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Nice thread hijack...
A. If you're referring to unrEVOked(2) and the preinstalled sprint apps, then no, i don't think it does. Sprint apps are not in "user-land" and i believe require NAND unlock (full root) to uninstall.
B. No, you can do this with a stock phone with the OTA update installed.

I am new as well, I think this is my first post. I waited to get the White Evo and got an RSS Feed that people were getting them early.........then Best Buy called me so I will have my phone today, already have a folder at home called Android and bookmarks to certain things on here lol

Globetrahter said:
I am new as well, I think this is my first post. I waited to get the White Evo and got an RSS Feed that people were getting them early.........then Best Buy called me so I will have my phone today, already have a folder at home called Android and bookmarks to certain things on here lol
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Welcome new peeps just make sure you read thoroughly before doing anything to your phone make sure you fully understand all steps involved and everything will work out fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245

Chopper64 said:
Nice thread hijack...
A. If you're referring to unrEVOked(2) and the preinstalled sprint apps, then no, i don't think it does. Sprint apps are not in "user-land" and i believe require NAND unlock (full root) to uninstall.
B. No, you can do this with a stock phone with the OTA update installed.
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The answers could help the OP.
A. That blows.
B. Cool!

Sprint must be finally getting more phones in... noticed a good bit of newcomers lol

brownhornet said:
Sprint must be finally getting more phones in... noticed a good bit of newcomers lol
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Damnit, exclusivity is going out the window!! I'm gonna return my phone now.
D Sorry trying to come up with any negatives for my new Lovely Evoline...)

Thanks for the Link

[Q] Can a rooted DX still receive updates?

I'm sure this question is posted somewhere on here but I couldn't find it. This is my first post.
A friend of mine has a rooted Droid X with 2.1 right now. He wants to get updated to 2.2 but he doesn't want/need a new ROM or anything like that. The only reason he's rooted is so he can get free wifi hotspot.
What's the easiest/quickest way to get him updated to 2.2 (preferably without having to wipe)?

JugglingWJ said:
I'm sure this question is posted somewhere on here but I couldn't find it. This is my first post.
A friend of mine has a rooted Droid X with 2.1 right now. He wants to get updated to 2.2 but he doesn't want/need a new ROM or anything like that. The only reason he's rooted is so he can get free wifi hotspot.
What's the easiest/quickest way to get him updated to 2.2 (preferably without having to wipe)?
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He can do the 2.2 OTA update, but he'll lose root. Of course, you can find a handful of 2.2 rooting methods on this board, so no biggie.

Best rooting method
Ok. Thanks for the quick response! What's the easiest way to root 2.2? I'm really new to all this (if you can't already tell).

mortodestructo said:
He can do the 2.2 OTA update, but he'll lose root. Of course, you can find a handful of 2.2 rooting methods on this board, so no biggie.
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Ok. Thanks for the quick response! What's the easiest way to root 2.2? I'm really new to all this (if you can't already tell).

JugglingWJ said:
Ok. Thanks for the quick response! What's the easiest way to root 2.2? I'm really new to all this (if you can't already tell).
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I followed these instructions. Not sure if they're the easiest, but I can confirm that they work. Helped a couple of friends root after OTA with these steps, as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7872088&postcount=1

Easier
Even easier than that, go check the Droid 2 forum for the 1-click root by DarkOnion and Faceless... the 1 click method works for both the D2 and the DX.

Shadowlore said:
Even easier than that, go check the Droid 2 forum for the 1-click root by DarkOnion and Faceless... the 1 click method works for both the D2 and the DX.
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link to that forum?

[Q] Bell 2.3?

I'm very sorry for what is probably the 1000th post about this but I have searched and searched and haven't found a conclusive answer. I have two questions.
Question #1: Does rooting possibly mess up the OTA update system?
Question #2: Is gingerbread out yet from Bell? I have even called them and they don't know what gingerbread is. (great)
Thanks guys.

1. I don't think so. I was rooted and got a Bell OTA update without issue.
2. Not yet. In the next month or two we should get something according to a leaked internal e-mail.

Mman14 said:
I'm very sorry for what is probably the 1000th post about this but I have searched and searched and haven't found a conclusive answer. I have two questions.
Question #1: Does rooting possibly mess up the OTA update system?
Question #2: Is gingerbread out yet from Bell? I have even called them and they don't know what gingerbread is. (great)
Thanks guys.
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1: No, after rooting, you can still do OTA Updates. But after doing an OTA Update, you will have to root again.
2: Not officially released on Bell yet. No word on when the official release date will be.

A Root Exploit Idea

Now I have never actually created an exploit for rooting a device, but I had an idea about one, as I have a general gist about it. I don't know if this is what RazorClaw did, but surely something can be done with Asus App Backup? Seeing as it has read and write access to apps, is there the potential to add a backup that will install root in some way?
Just an idea... really want to root my sbkv2 b70!

habylab said:
Just an idea... really want to root my sbkv2 b70!
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Just wondering.... why not use the existing root options that are available for SBKv2 devices?

Ciela said:
Just wondering.... why not use the existing root options that are available for SBKv2 devices?
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First of all, RazorClaw is the only option for SBKv2, and it was fixed in the latest update.
To the OP:
RazorClaw was used to invoke root user access, then remount /system as rw, and add Superuser, plus the matching su binary.

fonix232 said:
First of all, RazorClaw is the only option for SBKv2, and it was fixed in the latest update.
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First of all, you can downgrade your firmware, and still use RazorClaw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417006
Second of all, the OP has not stated that he is running the latest update, just that he has an SBKv2 model

Sorry for the confusion! I am on the latest firmware!
Thanks for the tips on how razorclaw worked, really helpful. What are the chances of something similar happening in the near future. Also, thank you for that link I will give it a try now.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium

habylab said:
What are the chances of something similar happening in the near future
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I would say it is pretty likely that Asus will continue to close root exploits as they are discovered. Especially so for ones that can be done via an installed app, as malicious apps can (and have in the past) make use of this with ill intent

That's fine, as I am sure I wouldn't update as quickly next time. I only did because it was on 3.1 and I had just got it and noticed huge lag on keyboard and device. Wanted to make sure it was updated, but didn't realise it was an Apple style mouse game of closing exploits!

Ok guys that method linked worked perfectly! Now I just need to know how to install CWM. I get a android with a caution exclamation mark. Any help appreciated!

Ciela said:
First of all, you can downgrade your firmware, and still use RazorClaw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417006
Second of all, the OP has not stated that he is running the latest update, just that he has an SBKv2 model
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1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.

fonix232 said:
1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
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1) Nothing rude was intended. Sorry if you read into something that wasn't there
2) Hardly my fault

habylab said:
Ok guys that method linked worked perfectly! Now I just need to know how to install CWM. I get a android with a caution exclamation mark. Any help appreciated!
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go to the market and find 'recovery installer'.
it will install CWM for you.

fonix232 said:
1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
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1) Nothing rude was intended. Sorry if you read into something that wasn't there
2) Hardly my fault
3) Funny that RazorClaw is still what he used to do it then..
Like you said yourself, no need to be rude
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Now now guys... I used RazorClaw in the end as I didn't know before I could downgrade. And thank you, installed recovery and installing Revolver!