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2 kernels for galaxy s froyo has recently intrigued me, namely [KERNEL][OC-UV-TINYRCU-BFQ-RAMZSWAP] Super Optimized Kernel (4_2 STABLE) (2010-10-19) by laststufo, and [KERNEL] SpeedMod Froyo 341MB RAM [K7 Test] [I1.2 Stable] by hardcore.
This is the speedmod kernel
and this is the super optimized kernel
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
So which one is better in your opinion? Do state your reasons.
-PS: I didn't really understood the meaning of Hz but now i kinda do thanks to Bos$. The 250/300/500 is not minimum clockspeed.
None of which. I prefer YA-OK, which gives me the most snappy feeling with a slight OC/UV that does not degrade system stability or battery life.
fraencko said:
None of which. I prefer YA-OK, which gives me the most snappy feeling with a slight OC/UV that does not degrade system stability or battery life.
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Same here, YA-OK, smooth, fast and stable,
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Same here, YA-OK, smooth, fast and stable,
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Same here, loving the Ya ok!!!
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artyte said:
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
So which one is better in your opinion? Do state your reasons.
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AFAIK, SpeedMod doesn't set the minimum clock speed like what you said. Read the thread for more info.
I would go for SpeedMod, haven't tried the other one yet.
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artyte said:
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
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I thnik you should read more about linux HZ parameter In this case HZ doesn't mean Hertz.
Great topic!
Guys tell me... Which one is better for better battery life?
YA-OK, SpeedMod or Super Optimized? (and best lag fix for stable and fast) all tweaks on?
artyte said:
2 kernels for galaxy s froyo has recently intrigued me, namely [KERNEL][OC-UV-TINYRCU-BFQ-RAMZSWAP] Super Optimized Kernel (4_2 STABLE) (2010-10-19) by laststufo, and [KERNEL] SpeedMod Froyo 341MB RAM [K7 Test] [I1.2 Stable] by hardcore.
This is the speedmod kernel
and this is the super optimized kernel
I know speedmod sets the minimum clock speed to 250/300/500 depending on which one you flash and includes some fixes from voodoo and also the ULK, while the super optimized kernel includes ramzswap which decreases ram usage virtually, while adding the same implementations such as voodoo fixes and ULK.
So which one is better in your opinion? Do state your reasons.
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i think you're getting the concept wrong about hardcore's hz lol
Raol3k said:
Great topic!
Guys tell me... Which one is better for better battery life?
YA-OK, SpeedMod or Super Optimized? (and best lag fix for stable and fast) all tweaks on?
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same question from me either...
guys pls put some light here..
Which one is better for using with Doc Froyo 8.0.1 ...
better in quadrant scores also...
thanks in advance..
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I thnik you should read more about linux HZ parameter In this case HZ doesn't mean Hertz.
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would you please explain this, then? it may be helpful to quite a few of us
alimur_r said:
same question from me either...
guys pls put some light here..
Which one is better for using with Doc Froyo 8.0.1 ...
better in quadrant scores also...
thanks in advance..
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well, here's mine for the day:
loads of emails, about 8 blutetooth phone calls, combination of 3g, wifi etc. i think the key is using superpower app which really makes a huge difference. mine is set to enable data every 30mins for 3 mins. also using BLN and noLED.
but most important is i've never had a crash or freeze with this combination of rom, kernel and baseband:
Samsung Galaxy S 8GB GT-i9000 (UK unbranded version), Class 10 16gb microSD
Baseband: ADJP3
Firmware: DocRomV8_Nude&Raw.ADJP5 (rev 4)
Kernel: zenkinz YA-OK build 30 OC 1.2ghz, Hardcore Tweaks, BLN ON, Overkill lagfix without binds, NoLED
Theme: JPA_V7_Androdena_Galassia_Proper_Optimised_AOSP_Ex tended_Circle
Battery App: SuperPower XDA (3 days unplugged)
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would you please explain this, then? it may be helpful to quite a few of us
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9301613&postcount=2305
tokyogtr said:
well, here's mine for the day:
Kernel: zenkinz YA-OK build 30 OC 1.2ghz, Hardcore Tweaks, BLN ON, Overkill lagfix without binds, NoLED
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Sorry.. could U state exactly which lagfix U used in ULF?
There's 2 overkills.. JFS and EXT4.
I used JFS overkill and has freezes twice and moved down to JFS advanced.
I don't really like ya-ok. Looks like a more basic version of super optimized kernel.
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I don't really like ya-ok. Looks like a more basic version of super optimized kernel.
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Don't just look, feel it
Thx to tokyo, it's my fav kernel now.
Probarly the best kernel out there
Came from SpeedMod kernel from Hardcore, which is also extremely well functioning (I1.2 stable verison). However, on my SGS, the YA-OK kernel is way faster and the feel of the phone is simply astonishing.
I'm on DOC's 7.6.2 (WXJPA) and with adv. ext4 lagfix + IOsched tweak. Phone is truly flying and finally faster than I can press the buttons - awesome!
Can't say much about battery for YA-OK, but with Hardcore's SpeedMod my SGS typically lasted 2 days (best 2,5 day). And that is push email (work and gmail), 3G on, no wifi, no gps, no bt.
Let's see how this YA-OK will do on battery? I'll report back later on...
So far - extremly well done work Zenkinz
teriemer said:
Can't say much about battery for YA-OK, but with Hardcore's SpeedMod my SGS typically lasted 2 days (best 2,5 day). And that is push email (work and gmail), 3G on, no wifi, no gps, no bt.
Let's see how this YA-OK will do on battery? I'll report back later on...
So far - extremly well done work Zenkinz
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I'm using Speedmod K7-300Hz and with lagfix voodoo. (because of battery life)
There seems be a little laggy on my phone, I may think about other kernel, like YA-OK.
But battery lif is what I concern about.
Please let us know how about YA-OK on battery. Tks!
I've jumped to ya-ok, tried all the optimized kernels available. ya-ok feels the most smooth and balanced out, of course that's just me. you guys try it for yourself! lol
can't test battery yet until tomorrow
ps. shouldn't really post this in dev though.
tokyogtr said:
well, here's mine for the day:
loads of emails, about 8 blutetooth phone calls, combination of 3g, wifi etc. i think the key is using superpower app which really makes a huge difference. mine is set to enable data every 30mins for 3 mins. also using BLN and noLED.
but most important is i've never had a crash or freeze with this combination of rom, kernel and baseband:
Samsung Galaxy S 8GB GT-i9000 (UK unbranded version), Class 10 16gb microSD
Baseband: ADJP3
Firmware: DocRomV8_Nude&Raw.ADJP5 (rev 4)
Kernel: zenkinz YA-OK build 30 OC 1.2ghz, Hardcore Tweaks, BLN ON, Overkill lagfix without binds, NoLED
Theme: JPA_V7_Androdena_Galassia_Proper_Optimised_AOSP_Ex tended_Circle
Battery App: SuperPower XDA (3 days unplugged)
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awesome man....great..
thanks for the info...
everything explained by the screen shots..
Thanks again..
The poll needs YA-OK and Raspdeep's Mod...
At the moment im on YA-OK as it has similar overclocks to raspdeep with the tweak of color and sharpness
YA-OK is a winner for me at the moment
Hi guys!
Great devloppers do great things!
I want to open a discussion about all the SGS kernels!
Today,a lot of kernels are out, and it's really hard to say who is the better. So for a better choice, share your user experience!
SpeedMod
Project Vodoo
Super Optimized Kernel
DamianGTO Steam kernel
Tegrak Kernel
FuguMod
Personnaly i prefer Speedmod, but i just test Speedmod and vodoo. To me Speedmod is faster than vodoo, and the battery life is better. I love all the speedmod tweaks
Now it's your turn to give your feedback, give a mark, and compare!
! I don't want to create war between kernel dev, just compare and why not help dev with user experience !
PS: sorry for my bad english ^^
IMO Voodoo kernel is faster and more stable than hardcore's one, but speedmod has better battery life. It's only my opinion.
Tried SpeedMod, Voodoo and Super Optimized Kernel.
I love SpeedMod, as he say it is fast, stable, low battery drain, easy to use and thanks to Supercurio's Voodoo Sound Radio is also usable now.
i am using voodoo
Yeah Vodoo Sound is so cool
I've tried Voodoo and SpeedMod. SpeedMod seems to have better battery life.
Interesting thing - maybe just slightly off-topic, but I'm not allowed to post in dev section yet so... it's more a SpeedMod 13A vs SpeedMod 13B thing.
I'm on Doc's 9.6.6 ROM (JPY modem) and was using Speedmod 13A. Despite trying every method I found to fix it, GPS (lock and accuracy) was horrible. Today i changed to 13B and GPS performance is ok again. This seemed odd to me, as the only thing changed was the kernel. Anyone have some insight into this?
SuckerPunch
I use Sucker Punch, built off of Speedmod, the dev keeps it updated and build off of speedmod on a regular basis. I recommend giving it a try, especially if you are at all interested in OC and UV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930679
Hi.
I'm using speedmod also. I find it quite stable, good battery life and fast. Although I believe that most of the improvement came with 2.2.1.
What I love more in speedmod is actually credit of supercurio work... Which is the sound, it's so much better than with the stock kernel...
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GPS performance & various kernels (&settings)
Dr. Strange said:
I've tried Voodoo and SpeedMod. SpeedMod seems to have better battery life.
Interesting thing - maybe just slightly off-topic, but I'm not allowed to post in dev section yet so... it's more a SpeedMod 13A vs SpeedMod 13B thing.
I'm on Doc's 9.6.6 ROM (JPY modem) and was using Speedmod 13A. Despite trying every method I found to fix it, GPS (lock and accuracy) was horrible. Today i changed to 13B and GPS performance is ok again. This seemed odd to me, as the only thing changed was the kernel. Anyone have some insight into this?
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Played around with settings some more - enabling the lagfix for DATA_LOOP, CACHE_LOOP & DBDATA_LOOP (making all "=ext2" instead of "=false") destroys GPS performace for some reason. I only use default lagfix now, GPS is fine.
Will report back on this specific issue when I try Voodoo kernel. Very curious how SpeedMod compares to Voodoo on this criterion.
I love speedmod... Also mainly it is the only one that is able to change to warm colors. My default screen came with a slight blue tint. Now my Super AMOLED is beautiful again
I like SpeedMod for Great Sound -especially radio fm, low battery usage, and color temp. option.
IMO speedmod is the best! easier n i think more stable than others..
Speedmod ... with all the goodies of speed and battery life there is cifs and tun support
razor69300 said:
Hi guys!
Great devloppers do great things!
I want to open a discussion about all the SGS kernels!
Today,a lot of kernels are out, and it's really hard to say who is the better. So for a better choice, share your user experience!
SpeedMod
Project Vodoo
Super Optimized Kernel
DamianGTO Steam kernel
Tegrak Kernel
FuguMod
Personnaly i prefer Speedmod, but i just test Speedmod and vodoo. To me Speedmod is faster than vodoo, and the battery life is better. I love all the speedmod tweaks
Now it's your turn to give your feedback, give a mark, and compare!
! I don't want to create war between kernel dev, just compare and why not help dev with user experience !
PS: sorry for my bad english ^^
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G'day people, I've tried all of them except FuguMod, and from my tests running the stock firmware I9000XWJS3 voodoo was faster than SpeedMod but Tegrak was the fastest out of everything. Only thing with Tegrak is that it doesn't use ClockworkMod and has a market app to adjust it settings. plus it adds an extra boot menu at the beginning of every boot. its also not compatible with some apps and its version of root doesn't use Busybox which I've noticed causes some problems.
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G'day people, I've tried all of them except FuguMod, and from my tests running the stock firmware I9000XWJS3 voodoo was faster than SpeedMod but Tegrak was the fastest out of everything. Only thing with Tegrak is that it doesn't use ClockworkMod and has a market app to adjust it settings. plus it adds an extra boot menu at the beginning of every boot. its also not compatible with some apps and its version of root doesn't use Busybox which I've noticed causes some problems.
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For Bluephantom:
Wooow you tried all of them ^^
You are so brave lol. So accorded to you what kernel is the best?
Vodoo is really faster than Speedmod? I never noticed this. I find Vodoo not smoothy.
For ALL:
What do you want on kernel to be the best?
I like SpeedMod, regularly updated, stable and fast enough.
Speedmod for me
3 KERNELS
I guess there are just 3 different KERNELs for SGS, the others are just tweaks for Stupy's CWR,
appreciate all the work for Super curio, Lastufo and Stupy
There are no best kernels, just optimized settings,
I tuned my sgs so my hard died (mine was the only SGS bricked in this region), now i use stock ROm JPP (one of the universal best) and a modified kernel and have the same working speed as Darky Doc ROms have.
I've only tried SpeedMod and Voodoo, and for me Voodoo has a little extra oomph. Phone seems snappier and faster in general.
I'm with doc's 9.6.6 JS5 /JPY modem /Speedmod k13c kernel and my battery drain is kinda stressful Did anyone test different kernels with this rom?Which one has the lowest consumption? (I lose about 2& per hour idle/2g/no wifi or data)
Hello all!
Just upgraded my wife from the MyTouch 3G Slide to the G2 as she has to have a keyboard and we were on our 5th replacement Slide. So, as she is not the geek that I am, she will not be constantly flashing new ROMs and such. However, I am going to at least install the latest CM and I am looking for kernel suggestions. I already have root, s-off, new hboot, and all that, I'm just waiting for CM7 to finish downloading.
I started using Android with the G1 and constantly updating Radios, as well as ROMs and I currently use a Samsung Vibrant running a TeamWhiskey ROM. It's stable as anything, I like the theme, and CM7 still has some broken stuff on the Vibrant. I'm glad to see that Eugene recently picked up a G2 as he made some bad ass kernels and ROMs for the Vibrant.
So, let's here those kernel recommendations and why you recommend them.
Thanks!
Well am currently using mexdroidmod and their kernel is pretty awesome because its fast and stable. My best advice is to test the diffrent kernel and read through the tread, see what people say about it. All the kernels I have tried are all awesome so you should try them
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pershoot's kernel. great batt life and OCing
Umaro's kernel has been rock solid for me and has tons of features as well. You can OC all the way to 1.9 Ghz if you so please and it has smartass.
well considering your wife isn't much of a techie.. i say you should go with pershoots kernel because he's always releasing updates and i've never had a problem with any of them. the battery life is excellent if you use the right radio (.17 and .30 have been good to me), but you need to experiment with this though. the phone runs beautifully, just make sure you use superwipe+ to format/wipe so you don't end up with gps issues like many people have had, good luck!
I've run umaro, eugene, pershoot, flippy, pyro, etc etc... aaand I've decided that the provided kernel is pretty much good to go. yeah, there are some little trinkety things with a few of the above kernels that the standard CM7 kernel doesn't support... but honestly, they're worthless to a user who just wants to turn the phone on and have it work.
set her up with the stock kernel @ 245-1017 (I haven't found a reason yet to ditch the ondemand governor, it seems to work best with CM7) and a vanilla gingerbread launcher and she'll be blown away.. that's my $.02
Like said above, CM kernel is great. I've tried most or even all available kernels for CM and finaly decided to stick with original one. It's stable and supports OC (up to 1.5GHz) "out of box", so really, I see no single reason to use the other ones.
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AllWin said:
Like said above, CM kernel is great. I've tried most or even all available kernels for CM and finaly decided to stick with original one. It's stable and supports OC (up to 1.5GHz) "out of box", so really, I see no single reason to use the other ones.
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I'm also thinking about changing the kernal, but only for smartass. Does smartass offer that much of an increase on battery life or anything else? Also, when you OC, do you use SetCPU or just CyanogenMod Settings?
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I'm also thinking about changing the kernal, but only for smartass. Does smartass offer that much of an increase on battery life or anything else? Also, when you OC, do you use SetCPU or just CyanogenMod Settings?
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not at all pooping on any of the guys who swear by smartass/other governors, but the change in battery life is almost unnoticable for me.. the change in performance however can be pretty apparent.
here's my problem with "battery saving" governors:
in order to save battery, these governors are supposed to be more intelligent about which frequencies they select once a task is called... well, that's all well and dandy, but the problem is that the majority of battery-hogging apps (ie streaming music/video, gaming, browsing for a long time, being on the phone, etc) are still going to be battery hogs with or without a fancy governor. the governor isn't capable of making an app that needs a lot of processing power run well at a lower frequency, it can only try to be more selective about which frequencies it uses in order to attempt to save battery life.
additionally, most people use their phones like this: phone is idle (ie screen off), and a call arrives. call ends, phone is back to idle. texting a few people, back to idle. playing a game for 15 minutes, back to idle.
is it really logical to assume that these short bursts of activity are going to benefit at all from a fancy shmancy governor? I doubt it.
I still swear by ondemand or interactive (both work well for me) thru built-in settings if possible (ie cyanogen performance settings). second choice would be setcpu with no profiles (unless you're overclocking heavily, then you should at least have a temp warning profile). at this point, screen-off profiles don't do a damn bit of good, because pretty much every kernel we have for the vision is going to scale down during inactivity.
A lot of controversy and heated disagreements have developed around these subjects so out of respect for devs and members I decided to open this thread.
I have run every iteration of TW rom with stock kernel that has ever been released for this phone with the same results: after a few hours or days of heavy use the phone bogs down to almost a halt. In addition, performance was always less than remarkable.
There have been significant improvements in eh 09 and ei 20, either of these could be my daily driver, but the problem still persists.
Comradesven, imoseyo and djp952 have provided us with custom kernels that are full of the features we love: Bln, voodoo sound and color, voltage and oc options, flashlight, zram, etc.
It is my contention that these kernels + the memory optimizer+other tweaks take this phone from average and dull to snappy and exciting, performing better in every aspect but perhaps paying maybe a little price in battery life and in some cases stability.
I've been accused of giving uneducated and biased advice on the subject. I experiment with this stuff on a daily basis, and my opinions are based on my observations and my phone' s behaviour. Other than the phone testing way higher on any benchmark I ran I don't have any solid proof of what I'm saying
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, XIX,ec09 radio., 48heap,ondemand, cfq, Uv, zram96,mem opt
laureanop said:
A lot of controversy and heated disagreements have developed around these subjects so out of respect for devs and members I decided to open this thread.
I have run every iteration of TW rom with stock kernel that has ever been released for this phone with the same results: after a few hours or days of heavy use the phone bogs down to almost a halt. In addition, performance was always less than remarkable.
There have been significant improvements in eh 09 and ei 20, either of these could be my daily driver, but the problem still persists.
Comradesven, imoseyo and djp952 have provided us with custom kernels that are full of the features we love: Bln, voodoo sound and color, voltage and oc options, flashlight, zram, etc.
It is my contention that these kernels + the memory optimizer+other tweaks take this phone from average and dull to snappy and exciting, performing better in every aspect but perhaps paying maybe a little price in battery life and in some cases stability.
I've been accused of giving uneducated and biased advice on the subject. I experiment with this stuff on a daily basis, and my opinions are based on my observations and my phone' s behaviour. Other than the phone testing way higher on any benchmark I ran I don't have any solid proof of what I'm saying
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, XIX,ec09 radio., 48heap,ondemand, cfq, Uv, zram96,mem opt
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When your phone gets bogged down is all of your ram used? (I've personally never seen mine past 325 no matter how hard I try, because the default android task manager is doing it's job I assume.)
I have had zero problems while running this setup with TSM res:
-Latest imsoyen with recommended settings in setcpu, along with the default zram values
-Dalvik heap 64M (or higher)
-permissions file
-Im not running voodoo lagfix, however thats for reasons other than performance
Do a full data/cache/dalvik wipe before flashing all this, and don't flash anything extra like xix. Also don't change any settings in setcpu, and don't use any task killers. (manually using the samsung task killer shouldn't be necessary)
I'm not saying this will work, this is just my control group because I personally have had success with it. If you give it a go post the results and we can go from there.
Also, do you have any apps from the market that always run in the background? (like tasker or widgetlocker lockscreen)
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sendan said:
When your phone gets bogged down is all of your ram used? (I've personally never seen mine past 325 no matter how hard I try, because the default android task manager is doing it's job I assume.)
I have had zero problems while running this setup with TSM res:
-Latest imsoyen with recommended settings in setcpu, along with the default zram values
-Dalvik heap 64M (or higher)
-permissions file
-Im not running voodoo lagfix, however thats for reasons other than performance
Do a full data/cache/dalvik wipe before flashing all this, and don't flash anything extra like xix. Also don't change any settings in setcpu, and don't use any task killers. (manually using the samsung task killer shouldn't be necessary)
I'm not saying this will work, this is just my control group because I personally have had success with it. If you give it a go post the results and we can go from there.
Also, do you have any apps from the market that always run in the background? (like tasker or widgetlocker lockscreen)
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No, it gets bogged down right after ram usage exceeds 302-304mb. It's like the android low memory killer cannot keep up with the demand or doesn't act fast enough. I do run widget locker though.
Here' s what I'll do. I'll turn off the memory killer and widget locker. My heap is already 64mb. I'll set up the zram at the default value and run it until tomorrow.
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TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, XIX,ec09 radio., 48heap,ondemand, cfq, Uv, zram96,mem opt
Alright well mine does not get bogged down when at those ram values, however I did end up turning widget locker off because of weird lag issues. Would make sense if it's caused by an app.
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I'm gonna run the settings on my Sig for a day.
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, ,ec09 radio., 64heap,smartassv2,deadline, zram,no Uv, no oc
I also think that there are stability issues running all the other stuff rather than just the kernel. I pulled off adrenaline shot, vm heap, auto memory killer, and any other apps. My phone is now stable and although lag is still present, I prefer a stable phone to random reboots or freezes..
Sent by way of the GB delivery truck..
I tried to run res 1.0 completely stock this weekend but still got random boots. Guess it might be phone/other appear dependent.
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I tried to run res 1.0 completely stock this weekend but still got random boots. Guess it might be phone/other appear dependent.
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This is so hard to troubleshoot. I thought it was kernel related because I didn't start getting them till TKSGB 10-12(PWGB back then). But now you're reporting getting them on stock as well.
For me they don't appear to happen often, the only way I catch them is by checking the timers on CPU spy.
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, ,ec09 radio., 64heap,smartassv2,deadline, Uv, zram,, no Uv, no oc
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For those of you that wanna install the latest adrenaline tweaks v12, beware that it makes drastic changes to the low memory killer values. While the phone will run tip top it kills apps left and right. I got rid of it immediately
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, ,ec09 radio., 64heap,smartassv2,deadline, Uv, zram,, no Uv, no oc
A trend I have noticed is quite a few folks are having lag and rebots on pwgb and tsm1.0 no matter which kernel or setup. I find it interesting nobody is reporting these issues on ei20 geewiz? I wonder what's different in dj's rom/kernel?
@Sendan. You were correct sir. Widget Locker was creating mayhem when ram got past the 302 mark. I purposely tried to jam up the phone while running a logcat and it turns out widget locker was making calls every millisecond. When running OS monitor it didn't seem that WL was causing any issues.
So basically I've been running without memory optimizer for a day with no issues. The ram usage now gets into the 315-320 range and is able to recover with minimal lag, not enough to warrant the use of akmo./me hanging my head down in shame
So now I'm oc again and trying to figure out what the best zram value is. Phone is running great
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, ,ec09 radio., 64heap,smartassv2,deadline, Uv, zram,, no Uv, no oc
I'm wondering which other apps would cause the same issues
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TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, ,ec09 radio., 64heap,smartassv2,deadline, Uv, zram,, no Uv, no oc
laureanop said:
@Sendan. You were correct sir. Widget Locker was creating mayhem when ram got past the 302 mark. I purposely tried to jam up the phone while running a logcat and it turns out widget locker was making calls every millisecond. When running OS monitor it didn't seem that WL was causing any issues.
So basically I've been running without memory optimizer for a day with no issues. The ram usage now gets into the 315-320 range and is able to recover with minimal lag, not enough to warrant the use of akmo./me hanging my head down in shame
So now I'm oc again and trying to figure out what the best zram value is. Phone is running great
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, lagfix, ,ec09 radio., 64heap,smartassv2,deadline, Uv, zram,, no Uv, no oc
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Nice thats good. As for other apps that may cause problems....widget locker uses an extremely large amount of ram, it might just be as simple as our phones specs aren't meant to run apps like that. I remember having the lag issues with cyanogenmod so it's definitely not exclusive to TSM Res.
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Nice thats good. As for other apps that may cause problems....widget locker uses an extremely large amount of ram, it might just be as simple as our phones specs aren't meant to run apps like that. I remember having the lag issues with cyanogenmod so it's definitely not exclusive to TSM Res.
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Thats exactly why I never used tho apps...widget locker and akmo seem to use up more ram then they do any good.
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PWGB actually never had any reboots for me no matter what kernel. But I like the TW launch and other tsm goodies in res 1.0
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Droidstyle
PWGB actually never had any reboots for me no matter what kernel. But I like the TW launch and other tsm goodies in res 1.0
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I never had any re boots on PWGB until TKSGB 1012. I reverted back to 1006 and the reboots were gone. I've had them on tsm res no matter what kernel config I used
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Nemeth27 said:
Droidstyle
PWGB actually never had any reboots for me no matter what kernel. But I like the TW launch and other tsm goodies in res 1.0
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I never had reboots on pwgb w/ tks 1006 kernal... 10/12 is when the reboots started for me just as laurenop posted. I tried akmo and widget locker and it seemed to do more harm than good. I never posted because these damn fascinates all react differently... the only main issue I had on pwgb was browser always shutting down and lag. converting the 1006 tks kernal back to rfs fixed the lag for me, but not for others. The same stuff goes on with every rom including mtd...Im starting to think it's more of a device issue than the rom/kernal combo because so many fascinates will respnd differently to the exact same setup...
i know this comment is a little late, since it seems you all have came to a answer on some slow down issues. But always remember to include apps as a cause for slow down, all apps are not created equal.
It drives me nuts when people say, I have tried every kernel, rom combination possible and it still acts this way. Or when they say I have loaded this on a few phones and mines the only one acting this way. Most of the "its the same" ends at Loading the rom and kernel, once you hand a phone over to its owner, and they install apps thats where it ends. Unless you can say you have the exact same apps as the other person, you can not say its the same.
This is the general rule I do, if i get some major issues, I go to stock, stock kernel and ROM, and Gapps and thats ALL, now I agree running a complete barebones system will suck, but if you have no extra apps installed and your still having slow downs, then you can blame it on the kernel or the rom.
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i know this comment is a little late, since it seems you all have came to a answer on some slow down issues. But always remember to include apps as a cause for slow down, all apps are not created equal.
It drives me nuts when people say, I have tried every kernel, rom combination possible and it still acts this way. Or when they say I have loaded this on a few phones and mines the only one acting this way. Most of the "its the same" ends at Loading the rom and kernel, once you hand a phone over to its owner, and they install apps thats where it ends. Unless you can say you have the exact same apps as the other person, you can not say its the same.
This is the general rule I do, if i get some major issues, I go to stock, stock kernel and ROM, and Gapps and thats ALL, now I agree running a complete barebones system will suck, but if you have no extra apps installed and your still having slow downs, then you can blame it on the kernel or the rom.
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I see what you're saying, but there's only a handful of apps that would cause significant issues. Problems that are common to a lot of users are usually Rom or kernel related
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laureanop said:
I see what you're saying, but there's only a handful of apps that would cause significant issues. Problems that are common to a lot of users are usually Rom or kernel related
TSM Resurrection 1.0,TKSGB10-27 bleedingedge, , ,ec09 radio., 80 heap,ondemand, cfq, zram,, no Uv,200-1200
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I agree but the easiest way to know if it is a ROM or Kernel issue is remove all the other factors out of it.
Just like when troubleshooting issues in windows, one of the best things in the world is safemode or just removing all the startup items and services.
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Q&A is in Post 2
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Hi Everyone, Arrow here and this is my guide to find what is the best aosp setup for your evo or android. It is true when people say "every phone is different." However there is an average of people that get similar results. At the moment people have different interest such as some people want performance and some want to improve their battery life. Of course certain people want both but only some get both.
*Remember what i put here is an average and may be different on your evo*
AOSP GB ROM'S: Ok so to start off, these are aosp roms still being updated as of now.
CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) - The most famous aosp rom out there, all or almost all other aosp roms are based off of this rom. This rom has a stable rom and experimental nightly builds. Anyone will tell you that you can't go wrong by choosing this rom. and believe me you will enjoy it.
CyanogenMod 7 Thread
Miui - This rom has the longest battery life and is very customizable. This rom is based off of CM7 and is an excelent rom. However unlike CM7 this rom does not have 4g so if you are willing to sacrifice 4g then believe me this is your rom.
Miui Thread
Gingerbread Evo Deck - Ok so although CM7 is amazing decks gb rom has said to be the exact same thing but giving off better battery life. other then that it is pretty much the same thing with some minor tweaks and some bloat ware removed.
Gingerbread-Evo-Deck's Thread
Xplod E4G - Team Nocturnal designed this rom and it is pretty much CM7 with the Sony Launcher + their apps. This rom will give your phone a nice cool feel that other people don't have. If you like a lot of eye candy then get this rom because it is CM7 just with a different look and feel.
Team Nocturnals Xplod E4G RLS1.2
teh roxxorz said:
using Xplod: there's a 50/50 chance the new tiamat kernels [4.0.7+] may not boot, in that case, they should use 3.3.7.
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ICS(mod7) - Team Blaze designed this rom and you can consider this rom like Xplod E4G, a rom just like CM7 with some minor tweaks but with a different look and feel. None the less this rom has something very special this is the closest rom to being like ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich). I 100% support this rom because they are doing the best they can to make this rom look and run as smooth as ICS. so if you want to look like your ahead of the game definitely get this rom.
ICS(mod7) Thread
AOSP GB Kernels: These are three kernels that i know of, if you know of more please let me know and i will add them.
Tiamat 4.1.0 - This is the latest kernel made by Tiamat and this is the only aosp kernel still being updated. This kernel on average gives people great performance but lacks on battery life. The main Governor for this kernel is SmartassV2 which is a balanced governor, good to turn on your phone and good to use on a normal day to day bases. For this kernel i do recommend using this governor. It does have SBC and Non-SBC kernels. *Side Note* (Some people say Tiamat 3.3.7 works better for them and is also known as the LEE Kernel because it was awesome like Bruce Lee and looks like Lee backwards [337])
Tiamat Website I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
Savaged-Zen - This kernel is no longer being updated, however it is still amazing this kernel seems to be Tiamat's competition. Where Tiamat lacks on battery Savaged-Zen does not. However it's performance is not as good as Tiamat. This Kernel comes in two version BFS (Brain F***ed Scheduler) and CFS (Completely Fair Scheduler). BFS is said to give better performance and CFS is the normal kernel. This kernel only comes with SBC however you may download "SVZ Manager" which will allow you to turn SBC on or off. The main governor for this kernel i believe is on demand However i use smartass and a lot of people us InteractiveX.
Savaged-Zen CFS sbc I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
Savaged-Zen BFS sbc in attachments (At The Bottom)
SVZ Manager I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
GoDm0de - This Kernel was made by toastcfh and is no longer being updated. It is non-sbc and in my opinion definitely the best non-sbc kernel. This Kernel has insane battery life and a pretty good performance. If you do not want to use an sbc kernel i recommend for you to 100% use this kernel. The Governor for this kernel is set on on demand (i think) however i got the best battery/performance using Interactive.
GoDm0dE Kernel I also put the Zips in the Attachment (At The Bottom)
AOSP ICS ROM'S:
ICS rom by: the_Plattypus and it is still in Alpha testing. however the development for this rom is moving really fast so hopefully a beta will come soon.
EVO 4g Ice Cream Sandwich from source
ICS-evo-deck: This Rom is by kushdeck, After testing out Decks ICS Pre-Alpha 4 & 7 rom i conclude that although it is a alpha it can easily be used as a day to day rom. extremely fast and very snappy. only thing that i found not working was the camera. (Now on Alpha5)
[ROM][ICS][1-11-12][WIP] ics-deck-evo [alpha5]
All Decks ICS Pre-Alphas
All Decks ICS Gapps
AOSP ICS Kernels:
Jaredthegreat ICS - jared has the most advanced ics rom which is in beta 2 but does not have a working camera to check this rom go here:
[ROM's] -ICS- 4.0.1-4.0.3>[AOSP]<--~B.2.0~
Will post them when they are released!!!
Rom Manager/Kernel Manager:
Rom Manager: This is an app from the android market and is extremely useful for pretty much anything. you can back up your rom, you may go into boot loader and you can check if certain roms such as "CM7 Nightlies" have been updated. However people do prefer Amon Ra for flashing, which is another plus of Rom Manager it allows you to flash alternative recovery, which will flash Amon Ra for you.
Kernel Manager: This app was working before but has stopped now, however if it does start working again what it had was pretty much all the kernels that you needed for any rom. this app would allow you to flash a new kernel immediately by going to the kernel you want to flash.
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Q&A:
Q: What is SBC?
A: SBC stands for super battery charger. SBC is trickle charging, It stops your battery from dropping from 100% to 90% right when you take it off the charger. Some say that it harms your battery but i haven't seen any harm and plus it only costs $5 to get a new battery on Amazon.
Q: How to set up and flash your roms and kernels?
A: well my friend "Crossrocker" made a guide for this with everything you need. so just click to go to his thread. [GUIDE||Oct/23]Best AOSP(CM7|Decks|MIUI) configuration.
Q: What is the difference between governors?
A: This Thread by "RJackson" explains it all:SetCPU governors (explained)
But if you're too lazy to click it here they are:
As explaind by RJackson:
ondemand - Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed. - SetCPU website
conservative - Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery. - SetCPU website
performance - Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking. - SetCPU website
powersave - Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times. - SetCPU website
userspace
A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor. - SetCPU website
Interactive - The 'interactive' governor has a different approach. Instead of sampling the cpu
at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming
out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire
within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer
fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.
If the cpu was not 100% busy, then the governor evaluates the cpu load over the
last 'min_sample_rate' (default 50000 uS) to determine the cpu speed to ramp down
to.
As explained by MDJ:
SMARTASS GOVERNOR - is based on the concept of the interactive governor.
I have always agreed that in theory the way interactive works - by taking over the idle loop - is very attractive. I have never managed to tweak it so it would behave decently in real life. Smartass is a complete rewrite of the code plus more. I think its a success. Performance is on par with the "old" minmax and I think smartass is a bit more responsive. Battery life is hard to quantify precisely but it does spend much more time at the lower frequencies.
Smartass will also cap the max frequency when sleeping to 245Mhz (or if your min frequency is higher than 245 - why?! - it will cap it to your min frequency). Lets take for example the 998/245 kernel, it will sleep at 245. No need for sleep profiles any more![/QUOTE]
As explained by teh roxxorz:
Lagfree - like the performance governor. It will scale the cpu to higher frequencies when needed, but not to 100% like performance, so you'll get a lil better battery out of it
SmartassV2 - A smarter smartass governor. Code was re-managed/removed to make it more optimized, and have better scaling performances
InteractiveX - a better interactive governor I believe; low scale cpu settings, for texting, browsing, ect, nothing intensive. I wouldn't use it for emulators, ect.
Q: Do you need PRL/Profile/Radio updates? Do you need to go back to sense based to do these still?
A: No you don't have to go back to sense to do these and you don't have to do these because Rom's will come with what you need. None the less if you would like to update your radios here is a thread by "Calkulin" where he keeps the latest radios updated: [ Radios ][ 9-5 ] All EVO Radio, WiMAX, PRI, NV & HBoot versions
Q: Does HDMI mirroring work on these roms?
A: As of this moment Miui and CM7 both have HDMI mirroring working, and sense all the other ones are cm7 with some tweaks they as well have HDMI working however from what i have read the only one that has not had problems with HDMI is Decks Gingerbread Rom
Q: Are all other major features (4G (except for Miui), bluetooth, front & rear camera, GPS, apps such as Netflix, Skype, Google Voice, Sprint Visual voicemail) all working at least as well as on a Sense or stock ROM?
A: Yes everything is working, however on CM7 and i presume on some others you also have to flash a gps fix which you can get from this thread: [GUIDE||Oct/23]Best AOSP(CM7|Decks|MIUI) configuration. and the Voicemail seems to have some issues for some people but works flawlessly on Decks with it's gapps + Voicemail which you may also get from this thread: [GUIDE||Oct/23]Best AOSP(CM7|Decks|MIUI) configuration.
Q:My wifi is connecting/disconnecting after a second, what should i do?
A: This answer was given to me by "teh roxxorz." This has nothing to do with your rom or kernel, do this:
Back up everything into Titanium Backup
Boot into recovery
wipe cache, Dalvik, and pretty much everything
reflash your rom,kernel and gapps (or if you would like to check out some other roms and kernels just click on the link in my sig)
once you've set up your phone download Titanium Backup from the market
in titanium backup restore all your apps ONLY!!! (don't get apps w/ data - only get apps, and do not get system data)
after this your wifi should be working just fine
Q: I am having wake issues?
A: Here is a Guide made by JBabey[FIX] Wake Issue (Android OS) - Combination of Radio/PRI/NV/Wimax/GPS !Solved!
Q: Can i make my 3g speed faster?
A: Yes, This answer was given to me by teh roxxorz:
You need to flash a sprint sense rom. I emphasize sprint because it won't work on the sense 3.5 roms, as they're all ports of other non sprint roms.
1. Flash sense rom
2. Obtain your msl, download msl reader from market, use it, write it down
3. type in ##3282# , input your msl (you can get this from the app msl reader)
4. Click edit mode > advanced
5. Scroll down to HHTD proxy port and address
6. Change the proxy port to 0 and proxychange the address to 0.0.0.
Q: How can I fix my GPS?
A: This answer was given to me by teh roxxorz:
- flash a sense rom
- open up the dialer
- Type ##GPSCLRX# or ##4772579#
- Your enter your MSL at the prompt
- Your phone will soon reboot > done
Q: Is there a guide like this but for sense roms?
A: Yes if you are looking for a sense guide rather than aosp then check out this thread by tropicalbrit
Q: What is your setup at the moment?
A: Rom - Decks 4.0.3 Pre-Alpha 7 ICS Rom
Kernel - Stock
Governor - Conservative
CPU Max/Min Frequency - 729/128
IncrediControl (app) - (-100) [I get to (-100) by first doing (-75) and leaving it there for 3 days and then I do another (-25)]
Car-o-Dope (CoD) setup
Nice setup. Thanks
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Nice setup. Thanks
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and thank you for such a quick reply ^_^
Not too bad. Good thing on steering them to tiamat. Lemme know if you need anything.
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Not too bad. Good thing on steering them to tiamat. Lemme know if you need anything.
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lol i was about to message you to check out this thread, but actually i do need something. do you happen to know a description of: lagfree, smartassV2, and interactiveX? or at least where i can get one?
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lol i was about to message you to check out this thread, but actually i do need something. do you happen to know a description of: lagfree, smartassV2, and interactiveX? or at least where i can get one?
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Lagfree - like the performance governor. It will scale the cpu to higher frequencies when needed, but not to 100% like performance, so you'll get a lil better battery out of it
SmartassV2 - A smarter smartass governor. Code was re-managed/removed to make it more optimized, and have better scaling performances
InteractiveX - a better interactive governor I believe; low scale cpu settings, for texting, browsing, ect, nothing intensive. I wouldn't use it for emulators, ect.
Also, you should also disclose to people using Xplod: there's a 50/50 chance the new tiamat kernels [4.0.7+] may not boot, in that case, they should use 3.3.7.
And any reason you were gona message me?
teh roxxorz said:
Lagfree - like the performance governor. It will scale the cpu to higher frequencies when needed, but not to 100% like performance, so you'll get a lil better battery out of it
SmartassV2 - A smarter smartass governor. Code was re-managed/removed to make it more optimized, and have better scaling performances
InteractiveX - a better interactive governor I believe; low scale cpu settings, for texting, browsing, ect, nothing intensive. I wouldn't use it for emulators, ect.
Also, you should also disclose to people using Xplod: there's a 50/50 chance the new tiamat kernels [4.0.7+] may not boot, in that case, they should use 3.3.7.
And any reason you were gona message me?
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pretty much so you can check it out and see if it was good, you seem to post everywhere i do and you seem to know a lot.
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pretty much so you can check it out and see if it was good, you seem to post everywhere i do and you seem to know a lot.
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Maybe there's a case of a stalker?! [kidding]
Though glad I could help. And thank you.
teh roxxorz said:
Maybe there's a case of a stalker?! [kidding]
Though glad I could help. And thank you.
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No problem ^_^
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No problem ^_^
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Tis all good.
has anyone tried that ICS(mod7) rom?
Helpful threads for the win, thanks mr arrow
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Nice helpful thread , I like that you attached the kernels seeing that a lot of people these days are always asking for links to them.
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Nice helpful thread , I like that you attached the kernels seeing that a lot of people these days are always asking for links to them.
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thank you, and yea it was a pain for me to find them just to attach them lol
Toney Starks said:
Helpful threads for the win, thanks mr arrow
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no problem ^_^
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no problem ^_^
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You could have asked I keep all of them just incase.
Edit: I quoted the wrong post lol.
I was talking about the kernels.
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has anyone tried that ICS(mod7) rom?
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i actually did, it runs really smooth and i believe atm everything is working. if there is anything wrong with it, then it was something cm7 did because it is the same thing with a few tweaks and a different look.
linsalata28 said:
You could have asked I keep all of them just incase.
Edit: I quoted the wrong post lol.
I was talking about the kernels.
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oh lol i was like huh , and well now i know lol
Hi,
Thanks for guide... I am considering changing from
my stock rooted ROM, so very timely for me!
Some features that you don't mention or summarize
that may help me and others.
PRL/Profile/Radio updates? I believe you need to
go back to sense based to do these still? [yuk]
HDMI mirroring?
Are all other major features (4G (except for Miui),
bluetooth, front & rear camera, GPS, apps such as
Netflix, Skype, Google Voice, Sprint Visual voicemail)
all working at least as well as on a Sense or stock ROM?
Thanks in Advance,
Peter