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I don't think this FroYo release is what will be the mass OTA push they were talking about to come in the next couple weeks... while it is awesome on so many levels, there seem to be enough little bugs in need of a little extra polishing that this is more likely a final Beta than actual first release. Anyone else think so?
This is currently being released OTA to all Nexus Ones, you mean when they release it to other phones? I'm sure there will be some patches here and there as usual.
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I don't think this FroYo release is what will be the mass OTA push they were talking about to come in the next couple weeks... while it is awesome on so many levels, there seem to be enough little bugs in need of a little extra polishing that this is more likely a final Beta than actual first release. Anyone else think so?
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I don't know. . . remember how the G1 was released? lol
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This is currently being released OTA to all Nexus Ones, you mean when they release it to other phones? I'm sure there will be some patches here and there as usual.
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From my understanding, this has only been released OTA to Google employees and media review devices, and nobody else. I have yet to see any confirmation from Google they started OTA of FroYo, and a Google Android developer tweeted earlier a sarcastic sounding statement along the lines "Woke up, guess FroYo OTA started today?" and he is one of the top developers at Google.
So, I say just a thought, this isn't the OTA that will be released to the masses... of course could be totally wrong, but it doesn't feel nearly polished enough to be it.
I wouldn't be mad at all if what you are saying is true.. Cyanogen MOD for some reason just "feels" better than Froyo. Don't know why, this update is a little meh.. showing off Flash to friends will be fun of course.
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I don't know. . . remember how the G1 was released? lol
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What? When I got my G1, I checked out my roots (pun intended) and rocked RC29 for a week. I don't see any real difference between it and 2.2
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I wouldn't be mad at all if what you are saying is true.. Cyanogen MOD for some reason just "feels" better than Froyo. Don't know why, this update is a little meh.. showing off Flash to friends will be fun of course.
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Can you imagine Cyan, or Enom, or Modaco and FroYo! Oh I can't wait for that. There is a huge speed difference between this and stock 2.1 It is like putting a custom ROM on with a good kernel.
If you want to show off flash really well, youtube is great! There are some nice sites otherwise, of course, but I am really impressed with youtube... loads fast and is smooth.
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I don't think this FroYo release is what will be the mass OTA push they were talking about to come in the next couple weeks... while it is awesome on so many levels, there seem to be enough little bugs in need of a little extra polishing that this is more likely a final Beta than actual first release. Anyone else think so?
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Can you give a list of all these bugs/issues you are experiencing?
After playing with this build for the past 6 hours, I can't think of a single issue.
Must be an issue with your phone : P
I agree. My 3g seems worse so far & I can't seem to be able to get 'move app to SD card working
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Can you give a list of all these bugs/issues you are experiencing?
After playing with this build for the past 6 hours, I can't think of a single issue.
Must be an issue with your phone : P
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First off, it never re-downloaded my apps like so many other people say it did... and yes, I wiped properly, and I even re-flashed from a fresh download. I even went back to a 2.1, and it had my list of downloads(I also have back up setting turned on), come back to 2.2, won't do it... must hate my gmail account or something.
As well, it doesn't wake properly... taking me a couple pushes sometimes, perfect other times. And never had this issue before... also doesn't exist when I went back to 2.1 for a moment to test if I was nuts or not.
thirdly, reboot your phone and tell me how your widgets are doing (although this could be the widgets more than the base OS).
Thirdly, maybe related to the second issue, have had a fair number of odd slow downs and freezes here and there while doing nothing major.
Next up, noticed it is taking multiple presses at times to open apps, beyond "normal" in quantity and consistency. Could be part of the odd slow down.
Finally, there is a list of other issues people are talking about as well...
Like I said, it just seems to have enough little bugs in need of polishing that this isn't it. Nothing major, just seems that there are some small things.
And this isn't to knock it or any of that... just saying it is a thought of mine that this isn't what the mass market OTA will be... very, very, very close, but it is the final Beta IMHO, sort of thing.
Also, to emphasis, I wiped properly, flashed two different versions, and compared to ere27 as well to make sure I wasn't smoking crack.
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What? When I got my G1, I checked out my roots (pun intended) and rocked RC29 for a week. I don't see any real difference between it and 2.2
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My point was that Google's definition of polished isn't a completely bug free type environment. Granted, alot of that comes from the fact that they're still building the OS, so there's always new enhancements coming and such. I just wouldn't mind the occasional bug fix that brought nothing new, if you get what I'm trying to say.
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From my understanding, this has only been released OTA to Google employees and media review devices, and nobody else. I have yet to see any confirmation from Google they started OTA of FroYo, and a Google Android developer tweeted earlier a sarcastic sounding statement along the lines "Woke up, guess FroYo OTA started today?" and he is one of the top developers at Google.
So, I say just a thought, this isn't the OTA that will be released to the masses... of course could be totally wrong, but it doesn't feel nearly polished enough to be it.
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O Rly?
Google Confirms Froyo Launch: “The roll out to Nexus One devices has begun!”
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First off, it never re-downloaded my apps like so many other people say it did... and yes, I wiped properly, and I even re-flashed from a fresh download. I even went back to a 2.1, and it had my list of downloads(I also have back up setting turned on), come back to 2.2, won't do it... must hate my gmail account or something.
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Funny story... I didn't even know Android re-installed Apps until Vic Gundrota mentioned it during the I/O Keynote Day 2. I had to re-wind, I was like "what? since when??"
Perhaps it's something that doesn't work on rooted phones, but I have never have Android reinstall any apps, ever, including from my G1 days, and from hopping around Nexus One ROMs. When I left Sense UI for 2.2 today, it didn't reinstall apps either, so again my theory is that it doesn't work for rooted users...?
Otherwise, I have no idea, it's never worked for me. Titanium Backup FTW.
As well, it doesn't wake properly... taking me a couple pushes sometimes, perfect other times. And never had this issue before... also doesn't exist when I went back to 2.1 for a moment to test if I was nuts or not.
thirdly, reboot your phone and tell me how your widgets are doing (although this could be the widgets more than the base OS).
Thirdly, maybe related to the second issue, have had a fair number of odd slow downs and freezes here and there while doing nothing major.
Next up, noticed it is taking multiple presses at times to open apps, beyond "normal" in quantity and consistency. Could be part of the odd slow down.
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Hmm, haven't had any of these issues. That sucks
I don't know, this seems VERY polished to me. Coming from the Sense UI, which was of course a hacked port from 2 months ago (Desire source code only released just a few days ago), the scrolling etc is like night and day! Everything just flies and feels like butter.
Aside from SORELY missing my HTC Widgets, I am LOVING FroYo!
First, Android DOES reinstall apps, but only for some reason not when you root and flash a custom ROM, or if you flash a stock ROM after having run a rooted custom ROM. My N1 is stock... I had my original N1 replaced due to dust. When I received my replacement, I logged in and all my apps automatically redownloaded, along with my bookmarks, and saved Wifi networks.
Second, some widgets may not work properly because the devs haven't updated the programs yet. For example, I use SMS Unread Count, and the Gmail widget no longer works, whereas the Dialer and Messaging widgets do. I'm sure it'll be fixed once the devs update their apps.
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First, Android DOES reinstall apps, but only for some reason not when you root and flash a custom ROM, or if you flash a stock ROM after having run a rooted custom ROM. My N1 is stock... I had my original N1 replaced due to dust. When I received my replacement, I logged in and all my apps automatically redownloaded, along with my bookmarks, and saved Wifi networks.
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Ah no wonder!
That would explain why I was surprised when Vic said that was a feature of Android hahaha
So, what is this "stock rom" you speak of?
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Ah no wonder!
That would explain why I was surprised when Vic said that was a feature of Android hahaha
So, what is this "stock rom" you speak of?
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LOL... after constantly "chasing the dragon" with my G1, I decided to stay unrooted and stock with the N1. Unless something REALLY compelling was available for rooted phones, of course, which is certainly not the case thanks to built in tethering and upcoming Apps2SD.
Btw, I have to ask... and you can answer via PM if you prefer... how do you feel after having played with Froyo and Sense on the N1?
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LOL... after constantly "chasing the dragon" with my G1, I decided to stay unrooted and stock with the N1. Unless something REALLY compelling was available for rooted phones, of course, which is certainly not the case thanks to built in tethering and upcoming Apps2SD.
Btw, I have to ask... and you can answer via PM if you prefer... how do you feel after having played with Froyo and Sense on the N1?
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I love FroYo! Flash is amazing.
I can't wait to go into work and show my buds (iphone users) Hulu on my phone! Muwhahahahahahahahahah!!!
And wow, I can finally use Bluetooth now!
I will say though, the main reason I love Sense UI is because of the widgets. I find the whole icons-barfed-all-over-the-screen that Android (and iPhone OS) do *extremely* ugly. That and the stock/downloadable Android widgets are all different sizes, different colors, themes etc.... Disgusting!!!
The Sense UI widgets were elegant, consistent, all the same size, and best of all, extremely functional. I loved easily scrolling through the FriendStream/Twitter widgets; the beautiful weather widget with home screen animations; the stocks/agenda widgets... Just beautiful. A plethora of information at a glance, without even opening an app.
Now looking at the stock Android Twitter/Facebook widgets I'm forced to put on my home screens and seeing only 1 single update, having to press the left and right arrows, and both being different colors (and different colors than the black bar widgets)... Ugh...
After showing off FroYo for a few days, I will probably switch back.
Cyanogen 2.2 + HTC Sense Widgets would be my dream ROM
were we supposed to wipe even if our phone is not rooted? Because I did nit and everything works great but that would make me worry if I was supposed to have wiped.
As for 2.2 I had several bugs on 2.1 that made eclair seem not entirely stable I dont think google has quite the standard youre expecting, of course in my opinion you have every right to hold them to a high standard google themselves constantly takes aim at apple which is very solid software wise. Android to me though seems more capable if less polished, and i think that's better, plus android is young maybe after they get the major updates out of their system they will go back and polish it up. But flash and tether work great for me and ive had less if none of some of the bugs I had as of yesterday, im on top of the world so far!
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were we supposed to wipe even if our phone is not rooted? Because I did nit and everything works great but that would make me worry if I was supposed to have wiped.
As for 2.2 I had several bugs on 2.1 that made eclair seem not entirely stable I dont think google has quite the standard youre expecting, of course in my opinion you have every right to hold them to a high standard google themselves constantly takes aim at apple which is very solid software wise. Android to me though seems more capable if less polished, and i think that's better, plus android is young maybe after they get the major updates out of their system they will go back and polish it up. But flash and tether work great for me and ive had less if none of some of the bugs I had as of yesterday, im on top of the world so far!
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I didnt wipe either and all is well. And I agree about Android's awesome capabilities versus polish. But I still thinks it very polished, only less so than apple i guess, but ill take tether and flash any damn day!
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I love FroYo! Flash is amazing.
I can't wait to go into work and show my buds (iphone users) Hulu on my phone! Muwhahahahahahahahahah!!!
And wow, I can finally use Bluetooth now!
I will say though, the main reason I love Sense UI is because of the widgets. I find the whole icons-barfed-all-over-the-screen that Android (and iPhone OS) do *extremely* ugly. That and the stock/downloadable Android widgets are all different sizes, different colors, themes etc.... Disgusting!!!
The Sense UI widgets were elegant, consistent, all the same size, and best of all, extremely functional. I loved easily scrolling through the FriendStream/Twitter widgets; the beautiful weather widget with home screen animations; the stocks/agenda widgets... Just beautiful. A plethora of information at a glance, without even opening an app.
Now looking at the stock Android Twitter/Facebook widgets I'm forced to put on my home screens and seeing only 1 single update, having to press the left and right arrows, and both being different colors (and different colors than the black bar widgets)... Ugh...
After showing off FroYo for a few days, I will probably switch back.
Cyanogen 2.2 + HTC Sense Widgets would be my dream ROM
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Interesting comments. I was a fan of Sense when I had the G1... but it was just too damn slow. I'm sure it's hot on the N1... but I've been enjoying the stock ROM too much. May have to consider Sense if it becomes fully functional in the future...
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were we supposed to wipe even if our phone is not rooted? Because I did nit and everything works great but that would make me worry if I was supposed to have wiped.
As for 2.2 I had several bugs on 2.1 that made eclair seem not entirely stable I dont think google has quite the standard youre expecting, of course in my opinion you have every right to hold them to a high standard google themselves constantly takes aim at apple which is very solid software wise. Android to me though seems more capable if less polished, and i think that's better, plus android is young maybe after they get the major updates out of their system they will go back and polish it up. But flash and tether work great for me and ive had less if none of some of the bugs I had as of yesterday, im on top of the world so far!
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Nope.. you don't need to wipe if you were unrooted and stock.
How much smoother is ics than honeycomb?
1) Is portrait mode lag gone(A lot laggier on portrait than landscape on honeycomb)
2) Is the browser as smooth as the ipad's now?
3) Scrolling between pages on the homescreen still laggy or smooth?
I didn't use the ics much so I don't remember how the portrait lag is but yes. The rom was smoother and it is still in beta. When ics is a finished product it will blow honeycomb out of the water
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It isnt iPad smooth but ICS removed a lot of the lag.
I wonder if they fixed the HDMI audio issue with ICS?
Please?
Obvious troll is obvious.
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I don't think it's fixed yet, but soon.
And regarding the Honeycomb lag...ICS is supper smooth...iPad smooth as far as I'm concerned. Super fast and smooth.
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I don't think it's fixed yet, but soon.
And regarding the Honeycomb lag...ICS is supper smooth...iPad smooth as far as I'm concerned. Super fast and smooth.
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I agree. The nightly rom is super fast and smooth. It takes only 30 seconds to open my xoom now where in Morey rom it took more than 3 minutes!!
I hope the final Tiamat Ics rom will be a champion.
I'm pretty shocked at just how big of a jump ICS was on my Xoom... I'm on a Xyboard now (unfortunately) so it's gonna be a while before I have ICS It's also likely gonna be a long time before I even can get root, I've already tried every method I could find, I'm just not experienced enough to figure out exploits on my own...
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I'm pretty shocked at just how big of a jump ICS was on my Xoom... I'm on a Xyboard now (unfortunately) so it's gonna be a while before I have ICS It's also likely gonna be a long time before I even can get root, I've already tried every method I could find, I'm just not experienced enough to figure out exploits on my own...
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Having had a xoom and made the Jump to the Xyboard, is there a "must have it" difference over the xoom?
Bought my 4G xoom, then weeks later the Xyboard comes out... Tech blues
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Having had a xoom and made the Jump to the Xyboard, is there a "must have it" difference over the xoom?
Bought my 4G xoom, then weeks later the Xyboard comes out... Tech blues
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he got one by mistake insurance sent him xyboard instead although I'm sure he preferred keeping his xoom
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I just tried to restore my Honeycomb backup to be on a more "complete" ROM until ICS is more complete, but found I could NOT stand the lag. Latest EOS nightly is leaps and bounds better than honeycomb. Maybe its my Gnex that makes my honeycomb Xoom feel slow.
Even this beta release of ics has made me love the Xoom, I liked it with honeycomb but its a whole new level with ics
The Xoom feels like a brand new tablet with Ice Cream Sandwich. It definitely makes me happier than my experiences with Honeycomb and the browser.
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The Xoom feels like a brand new tablet with Ice Cream Sandwich. It definitely makes me happier than my experiences with Honeycomb and the browser.
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This ^
Although I don't think ICS is finished for tablets.
A lot of the swipe gestures that you think will work don't
And the UI is a different experience each app
Can anyone tell me if battery life improved at all on is? Not that its bad, now, I'm just curious and I use the camera so I don't want to put it on my xoom yet
I have noticed that the keyboard lag in Javascript forms is gone in ICS
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Can anyone tell me if battery life improved at all on is? Not that its bad, now, I'm just curious and I use the camera so I don't want to put it on my xoom yet
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The only ICS build I had bad battery life with was one of the first straight AOSP ones to show up here on XDA. Been using EOS nightlies for a week or so now and have been getting the same great battery life I've always gotten from my Xoom.
No battery issues here either. As of Nightly build 17, it will not connect to a wireless AP with a hidden SSID.
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... it will not connect to a wireless AP with a hidden SSID.
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I had this issue with Tiamat ROM so not sure if it is ICS...
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No battery issues here either. As of Nightly build 17, it will not connect to a wireless AP with a hidden SSID.
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This is an Android thing.
The problem with having hidden SSIDs in your known network list is that you have to query to see if the network is there every single time you scan, which sucks down battery like a pig. The Google engineers decided early on not to support hidden for this reason.
All arguments about whether it's a valid means of securing a network aside, you can hack it in by modifying the supplicant conf, but it will impact battery.
Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
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Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
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they seek attention...thats all.
ICS is a dream,well put there sir.
the only true problem is the screen responsiveness but i can live with that as it is the first release.
its super fast,super smooth,at last i have a working browser that loads in the speed of light even the most bad written web pages full of ads which of course i have disabled with adfree and generally its ten times better than any laptop and netbook.
hardware keyboard is so responsive,no lag at all as in the terrible hc and apps load like hell.
i am in love with my tablet at last and yes,now i see why tablets are the future.
with HC i had my tablet closed like for a month....
Some of more "simple" people in this world get more hyped up the longer they wait for something, in the end, there is no way they would be happy with what they end up with, so much so they can't even see the good stuff anymore.
Im in love
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I never waited for ICS on my TF. I've already had ICS on my phone for a while. I knew what it was going to be like.
After getting ICS today on my TF, I can objectively say that it's nothing to get your panties wet about, and it never was. It's a minor update at best.
Your tablet must have been really badly optimized and cluttered with junk if updating to ICS made it "work like a dream".
If you notice that much of a difference in performance, the problem wasn't the OS. It was you.
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The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
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The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
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thank you (raising hand at the same time)
I must say that I initially was disappointed. I expected a lot of user interface changes and a heap of new functions. But got disappointed when it looked just like before.
But annoying lags are gone, I discover small improvements all the time and I am beginning to really appreciate this update.
My favourite new feature so far is app folders on the desktop.
LWP is useless so the ones getting a slower device because of it is just getting what they deserve. Bling should be on your girlfriends fingers, not on your tablet.
i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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I read somewhere that ICS is supposed to be a major upgrade for phones Android 2.X. Android 3.X is for tablets only. Android 4 is a merge of these two strategies, therefor the changes are bigger for phones than tablets.
I think the article summed up that ICS is a way to bring the Honeycomb upgrade to phones.
+1 ICS is greeeat...
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Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
Dream Indeed
I have been aboard the android train since my Galaxy s.
Used to run darky's roms then switched to paulforde's 4.2. This already made me feel ICS really is a major update.
Got my EEpad about 3 months ago. And switched to GnuFabio's Revolver rom, which I loved. Yesterday I flashed the Full WW ICS after only wiping cache and Dalvik, booted into ICS, booted into recovery and the installed the update over it. And I must say, this is my best Android experience so far. Especially during swiping through screens I always noticed quite a few frames were being dropped. And occasional keyboard lag.. also sometimes the memory management seemed to play tricks on me from time to time.
But so far this really is feeling like a dream even though my device is running stock and used to run @1.4Ghz. I am loving this !
I'm really digging ICS as well. At first I found it a bit clunky and did have trouble with the screen responsiveness but after a few hours of use it seemed fade away and is now snappier than ever.
My only complaint is with the browser and the backwards step they took removing the ability to change the default User Agent permanently. Same thing with Chrome Beta. Why make a fancy browser only to have it display stuff meant for a 3-5 inch display? I'm not too upset as I'm sure it will be one of the first things they fix in the next major update(s) to ICS.
Maybe i had low expectations, but this update has really impressed me; noticeably faster, not blindingly so, but faster nonetheless eg. the 'recent apps' button - before you'd have a 1-2 delay, now it's instant.
The browser is massively improved, no more blocky rendering when scrolling through xda, no typing lag, no random crashes, much more stable. Other little things you keep noticing: drag 'n drop files in the files manager; ctrl+shift+arrows to select words etc.
Sure, there's nothing earth shattering about ICS - but for me, the transformer now works like I always imagined it should work.
I love ICS also on my tf101!!
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I'm happy with the Update. The Tablet feels more responsive now.
I agree its working great.
Can actually use the stock browser now with xda lol
Only 1 bug so far... changing to panorama mode kills the camera.. no biggie
Another happy customer here. 2 random reboots. But its running how it should
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i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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yes i totally agree. ICS is what HC should have been.... Well at least were finally here..I'm loving my TF even more
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Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
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chrome is nothing to write home about....not as fast as opera. i was really looking for it to replace Opera but i guess not. Everything else is much faster now on ICS
Hi all,
I discovered the Antutu benchmark performance testing app, as I was looking into some lagging i've been experiencing when switching between apps. I've even tried improving performance using SetCPU, but i'm still not completely impressed with this tablet compared with a gen 2 iPad I had previously.
My tablet stacked up OK in the test, but the standard performance of a couple of the Samsung tablets and an HTC phone (I think) was quite a bit better. This was a bit of a shock, as I understood that this tablet was supposed to be a pretty solid performer.
Does anyone have thoughts on this? Are my expectations unrealistic? Is there something I should do?
At the moment the tablet is rooted and running Apex Launcher.
Thanks!
fearofbirds said:
Hi all,
I discovered the Antutu benchmark performance testing app, as I was looking into some lagging i've been experiencing when switching between apps. I've even tried improving performance using SetCPU, but i'm still not completely impressed with this tablet compared with a gen 2 iPad I had previously.
My tablet stacked up OK in the test, but the standard performance of a couple of the Samsung tablets and an HTC phone (I think) was quite a bit better. This was a bit of a shock, as I understood that this tablet was supposed to be a pretty solid performer.
Does anyone have thoughts on this? Are my expectations unrealistic? Is there something I should do?
At the moment the tablet is rooted and running Apex Launcher.
Thanks!
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Both Samsung and HTC are known to be cheating in benchmarks and HTC is still doing it. That said, I don't care about benchmarks. I know what the hardware is capable of and I where hoping for some custom roms to advantage of, but things are moving slow and I may have been a bit too optimistic. One thing I am very happy about compared to my ipad is ram. My ipad keeps killing apps and have to reload when I return. Even having two tabs open in safari and trying to copy/paste between them is a big hassle. I am very happy with mine and have no problems, except marking text is broken at least in chrome (if you drag to extend your selection, it will drop to next line, making it almost impossible to mark the multiple words you want).
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Both Samsung and HTC are known to be cheating in benchmarks and HTC is still doing it. That said, I don't care about benchmarks. I know what the hardware is capable of and I where hoping for some custom roms to advantage of, but things are moving slow and I may have been a bit too optimistic. One thing I am very happy about compared to my ipad is ram. My ipad keeps killing apps and have to reload when I return. Even having two tabs open in safari and trying to copy/paste between them is a big hassle. I am very happy with mine and have no problems, except marking text is broken at least in chrome (if you drag to extend your selection, it will drop to next line, making it almost impossible to mark the multiple words you want).
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Hmm... OK. THanks for the thoughts. I guess it might be that the niggling problems with the z2 are going to be sorted out with software updates by Sony as time progresses - hopefully that is the case.
And i'm really not completely sure of how custom ROMs work and whether they would help, but if that is a prospect i'd definitely take advantage of. For interest, which custom ROM that may soon come out would you recommend? And why?
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Hmm... OK. THanks for the thoughts. I guess it might be that the niggling problems with the z2 are going to be sorted out with software updates by Sony as time progresses - hopefully that is the case.
And i'm really not completely sure of how custom ROMs work and whether they would help, but if that is a prospect i'd definitely take advantage of. For interest, which custom ROM that may soon come out would you recommend? And why?
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I must be lucky, because I don't experience any of the those touch problem people report. Maybe Sony's have used parts from more suppliers and only parts from a specific supplier experience the problem. I don't know, I just hope for everybody and that it get sorted out.
It is difficult to recommend any rom, when there are none. This is my first Android tablet and I have no experience with the rom situation. However on my phones I have been using carbon rom with great success. It is based on Cyanogenmod, but has additional functionality from other roms. Especially I like the expanded desktop (immersive/fullscreen) functionality and slim-shortcuts to different settings including toggling expanded desktop. I am not using it at the moment though, because I have updated my Htc One m7 to latest Sense 6 rom (or rather a custom rom based on original Sense 6 rom) and whatever HTC have done, it is working, I have never had such a speedy rom. I also like the makeover HTC did with Sense6, so I think I will stay with it, although I used to dislike Sense.
This may be helpful to our devs to resolve the sluggish video performance in NOOK HD / HD+ (TI OMAP Chip):
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/galaxy-nexus-gets-new-life-with-updated-gpu-drivers/
The current video driver used makes demonstrates the sluggishness in video performance as shown here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-hd/help/nook-hd-embarrassingly-slow-t2837028/post54587754#post54587754
Once updated, the Nook HD / HD+ should be able to demonstrate smooth video performance as the Amazon Kindle Fire 8.9, which uses the same TI OMAP Chip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hUW6KARo8Y4#t=1164
Is this compatible with CM11?
I'm also curious about this...seems like it could fix a lot of the odd slugishness we see...
Thanks!
Definitely curious. Wanting to know what it would take to make a kernel that incorporates this even though I don't know how to do these things.
Goggles2114 said:
Definitely curious. Wanting to know what it would take to make a kernel that incorporates this even though I don't know how to do these things.
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Just a thought that if the cm maintainers do bring L to the nooks, and if that required newer video driver, then they would or else there would be no L on the nooks. Otherwise, I'm not so sure they would spend the time to do so if it required too much work.
Course, there's always the thought of someone else doing it.
Bumping to show that I'm really interested
Going to look into it now. Syncing slowly but surely.
We have no cm-12 branch for these devices yet. ( or ever )
Not sure who's maintaining it these days. I'm going to look into the commits and see what can be used here. :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
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Going to look into it now. Syncing slowly but surely.
We have no cm-12 branch for these devices yet. ( or ever )
Not sure who's maintaining it these days. I'm going to look into the commits and see what can be used here. :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
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Holy crap, where have you been?
And hurray for Linux Mint!
Sent from my Nook HD+
Busy with work and such, then had a baby a month ago. I'm up every few hours at night anyways so figured I might as well look into this.
About an hour into the build, it will probably finish but I noticed I'm missing some build patches to make things work, so it likely won't boot.
Using the HD more often lately, its smoother and more convenient, also the HD+ is setup playing lullaby tracks 24/7 so I just leave it be.
Just moved and between jobs and school, so maybe we'll see some lollipop love for this old gem of a tablet.
And yes mint 17 really improved cinnamon monumentally. Its been amazing so far.
killersloth said:
Busy with work and such, then had a baby a month ago. I'm up every few hours at night anyways so figured I might as well look into this.
About an hour into the build, it will probably finish but I noticed I'm missing some build patches to make things work, so it likely won't boot.
Using the HD more often lately, its smoother and more convenient, also the HD+ is setup playing lullaby tracks 24/7 so I just leave it be.
Just moved and between jobs and school, so maybe we'll see some lollipop love for this old gem of a tablet.
And yes mint 17 really improved cinnamon monumentally. Its been amazing so far.
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Hey man, nice to see you back here and congrats on your new baby! As for Lollipop, it definitely would be nice.
Mike T
Might have been better off trying to build off cm12 staging branch, not sure though, throwing errors about everything. I'll diff some things tomorrow possibly, see if I can at least get a nook build to finish, even if it won't boot.
No reason to anticipate a successful build though, it was looking pretty bad lol.
killersloth said:
Busy with work and such, then had a baby a month ago. I'm up every few hours at night anyways so figured I might as well look into this.
About an hour into the build, it will probably finish but I noticed I'm missing some build patches to make things work, so it likely won't boot.
Using the HD more often lately, its smoother and more convenient, also the HD+ is setup playing lullaby tracks 24/7 so I just leave it be.
Just moved and between jobs and school, so maybe we'll see some lollipop love for this old gem of a tablet.
And yes mint 17 really improved cinnamon monumentally. Its been amazing so far.
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Congratulations! Must be hard the dad's life
By the way, I tried the new slimkat. Head there, I think that there are some archives that the guy uploaded that might prove resourceful (I think I saw some "drivers" "OMAP" folders inside these archives. Also, the rom has a polished look, and I think we can infer that optimizations and updates to the graphic drivers are there). Dunno, certainly worth a try
Going to look into a few places I was directed to for some useful commits. Also digging through omapzoom I saw some things that could be useful to us. Going to have some coffee and do some reading about it now
killersloth said:
Might have been better off trying to build off cm12 staging branch, not sure though, throwing errors about everything. I'll diff some things tomorrow possibly, see if I can at least get a nook build to finish, even if it won't boot.
No reason to anticipate a successful build though, it was looking pretty bad lol.
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Hey ks, I posted this in another thread. Thought you might have some interest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57255892&postcount=16
Take care,
Mike T