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how can we get this on our free and clear 3000 plans?!?
my rep told me they could add it but of course he was wrong. now im sitting here with 450$ pda.
i tried over the phone and online. both said no. sooo my rep is going to put in a request with demo team but that will take a week or two.
anyways ides?

Sadly you can't. If anything you could possibly go into something like an everything data plus plan or something along that line, but since the phone is plan specific it will require that you do switch. The old free and clear plans are pointless on this phone or with any new smart phone for that matter.

Av, from what I understand, nobody will be allowed to add it to their plans until late July, and if you try to circumvent it and slip it through? Instant termination or either job or privileges. They're actively searching employee and indirect accounts for these.

Which one exactly is it, the $20 one?
My rep got it on for me, but I have the $0 plan.
As far as the phone goes, you should be good as long
as it wasn't an employee purchase or the Sprint account
under your name (social).

yeh its the 20$ one.
well anyways if an employee gets it on theres post it up.
the demo team will be in (my) store monday. hoping to god they will hook me up

Avalaunchmods said:
how can we get this on our free and clear 3000 plans?!?
my rep told me they could add it but of course he was wrong. now im sitting here with 450$ pda.
i tried over the phone and online. both said no. sooo my rep is going to put in a request with demo team but that will take a week or two.
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I'm a Sprint Rep for Best Buy and I have been led to believe that 3rd party or Concession plans will be allowed to swap esn's to the Evo as long as they purchase the device outright. If you activate it on a consumer plan and then ask your Rep to submit a request to have it converted to an employee plan, it will get denied.
If you paid full retail price for your Evo, please politely as your Rep to try again and explain exactly how you acquired the Evo. I can't make any garuntees that it will be swapped, but it's worth a shot.
Worst case scenario, you wait until Sprint gives the green light on Evo's for employees sometime in July. Either way, I can assure you that this device is worth the wait.
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To my knowledge, and from the memos we've received at Radioshack, NO ONE is allowed an Evo on an employee plan, regardless of method. That means RS, BB, even Sprint employees themselves are not allowed the phone. I assume the same reason why they never let employees have a phone involving a major launch: the more employees that buy, the fewer consumers can buy.
I'm sure it'll make a great alarm clock until Sprint releases the block on the device in July.

I'm currently using the Evo on a Advantage Club plan, but I have to pay the 10$ add on. So all in all its 30$ a month.

Well I'm on the $20 3000 free n clear plan. I called in on Friday night to try and activate my evo on my account, it was 5 minutes till 12:00am central time and the customer care rep that was helping me couldn't get my evo active. He then requested assistance from his manager do add the $10 premium data soc code on my account. I am now tremendously happy with my evo, it is an amazing device!
FYI just as a regular customer the premium data does have an additional cost of $10 but it is well worth it. As for the hotspot app works fine for now with out the $29.99 soc code add on. I went on my account online to see if I could view what the premium data soc code was but no luck, it comes up as premium data. Hope this helps someone else.

ajquadros said:
I'm currently using the Evo on a Advantage Club plan, but I have to pay the 10$ add on. So all in all its 30$ a month.
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Whoever the employee is that's attached to your plan? Expect them to get fired VERY soon. They're actively scanning all employee and Advantage plans for EVO ESNs.

hello guys, i'm also part of the free and clear 3000 plan and had a couple questions. My first question is does the $20 plan include roaming? I have been paying the $5 fee for the past 2 years and was curious if i actually need to pay it? Or is it already included and I'm just paying extra.
My second question is has anyone figured out an easier method of getting our accounts switched over to the newest plan for the HTC EVO 4G. Any way we can do an ESN Swap on the Sprint website?
I do not work at radioShack anymore and was wondering if anyone has asked for authentication to make sure they still work there.
Is it as easy as calling up and talking to the right person? They wouldnt transfer me to another line that would start questioning me about whether i still work there or not, would they?

hasseye said:
hello guys, i'm also part of the free and clear 3000 plan and had a couple questions. My first question is does the $20 plan include roaming? I have been paying the $5 fee for the past 2 years and was curious if i actually need to pay it? Or is it already included and I'm just paying extra.
My second question is has anyone figured out an easier method of getting our accounts switched over to the newest plan for the HTC EVO 4G. Any way we can do an ESN Swap on the Sprint website?
I do not work at radioShack anymore and was wondering if anyone has asked for authentication to make sure they still work there.
Is it as easy as calling up and talking to the right person? They wouldnt transfer me to another line that would start questioning me about whether i still work there or not, would they?
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You have to go through the channel that setup your account as you were a radioshack employee. I'm a Sprint employee and I have my Evo unl on the $0 plan...

[Q] Sprint Contract Cancellation

Anybody here had any dealings with Sprint Early Termination? I wonder if there is some sort of lemon clause or something. I'm on my 4th EVO in 4 months. Screen, USB, Volume Rocker, USB. They have replaced it under warranty each time, no charge. I guess i have a pretty good argument. This is a business phone/account so down time is money. Even if its only a couple hours each issue. Well you can bet that i'll give it a try. Hopefully the Nexus S will give me the nudge i need to call and raise hell. My 4th New EVO will be here Tuesday. At least i'll have a new phone to sell.. That's if you can keep the phone when you early terminate. Can you? I wonder if you can keep it if they let you out early... Like my situation. Hmmm Anybody had any dealings with either scenario? Thanks in advance!
ps. Please dont turn this thread in to an EVO is a great phone, why would you want to cancel thread. I know its a great phone.. When it works. I really want to get back to t-mobile. I had absolutely no issues with them in the past...Years of service. They are cheaper and their 4g is available in my area. Sprint is not, and has no plans to be any time soon. Thanks so much.

When I was on my Fourth Evo in three months, I called and told them that their customer service sucked and that T-Mobile customer service was way better. Told them that I was seriously rethinking my choices in switching to Sprint. After about 30 minutes of putting down the customer service rep's supervisor, they transfered me to someone higher up who told me that they would cancel my service.
That wasn't my objective, my objective was getting a credit because I was traveling about 30 miles to the store where I purchased my phone to get replacements. That was a 45 minute trip each way, plus waiting in the store for an average of 45 minutes. That's 2 hours and 15 minutes with no compensation. In the end, I ended getting a 100 dollar credit and was put on a employers discount plan.

I sometimes wonder whether there's some kind of check box or something in our account information that tells customer service who won't take any crap. They used to kick me around, but they've treated me like a VIP ever since I reported Sprint to the Better Business Bureau and the States Attorneys General of both California (where I live) and Kansas (where Sprint does).
This dates back to when the Treo 600 was Sprint's flagship phone. I bought one when they were brand new and exactly a year and a week later it quit connecting to the network. Sprint told me that they couldn't fix a phone that was out of warranty (even for a fee) and I'd have to send it to Palm. Palm insisted (correctly) that they were under contractual obligation which prevented them from fixing Sprint phones and I'd have to take it to Sprint. Neither company would budge so I was stuck with a broken phone which was still one of Sprints flagship products.
Now I didn't think it was right that an expensive device like a year-old Treo 600 could be considered disposable, so I complained to the organizations I mentioned above and it wasn't long before I was contacted by a representative from Sprint's "Executive & Regulatory Services" who was eager to help me. Too bad it was before Verizon coined the phrase 'cause I would have loved to ask them "Can you hear me now?"
Anyway, I got a new Treo 650 (when they were still vaporware), a generous credit, and a guarantee that Sprint had addressed the "misunderstanding" and it wouldn't happen to other customers. And like I said, I've been treated like a VIP when I call Sprint ever since.
Apparently they don't forget who they can kick around and who they can't.
Pete

PGRtoo said:
I sometimes wonder whether there's some kind of check box or something in our account information that tells customer service who won't take any crap. They used to kick me around, but they've treated me like a VIP ever since I reported Sprint to the Better Business Bureau and the States Attorneys General of both California (where I live) and Kansas (where Sprint does).
This dates back to when the Treo 600 was Sprint's flagship phone. I bought one when they were brand new and exactly a year and a week later it quit connecting to the network. Sprint told me that they couldn't fix a phone that was out of warranty (even for a fee) and I'd have to send it to Palm. Palm insisted (correctly) that they were under contractual obligation which prevented them from fixing Sprint phones and I'd have to take it to Sprint. Neither company would budge so I was stuck with a broken phone which was still one of Sprints flagship products.
Now I didn't think it was right that an expensive device like a year-old Treo 600 could be considered disposable, so I complained to the organizations I mentioned above and it wasn't long before I was contacted by a representative from Sprint's "Executive & Regulatory Services" who was eager to help me. Too bad it was before Verizon coined the phrase 'cause I would have loved to ask them "Can you hear me now?"
Anyway, I got a new Treo 650 (when they were still vaporware), a generous credit, and a guarantee that Sprint had addressed the "misunderstanding" and it wouldn't happen to other customers. And like I said, I've been treated like a VIP when I call Sprint ever since.
Apparently they don't forget who they can kick around and who they can't.
Pete
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It's not cause you reported them to the BBB but because Sprint made a fundamental change in their business operations once CEO Dan Hesse was brought on board. The very first thing he did was overhaul the customer service departments. Sprint from 2006 is not the Sprint of today.
I think it's only fair to give them credit.

I had went through 5 hero's (dust under screen, buttons,ect) When I got my 5th with speaker problems they told me that I had to buy a new phone because they only give out 5 replacements max. After 1 week of calling over and over talking to a mess of different people and complaining they bumped my upgrade eligibility up by 8 months and now sitting with my EVO. Thank you sprint.

As long as your contract is settled if they want you to pay the ETF or not, you can keep the Evo. If you owe anything it'd be black listed and wouldn't be able to be used on sprint's network.
Even if you pay the ETF you can probably still come out ahead selling the Evo on ebay.
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Anybody here had any dealings with Sprint Early Termination? I wonder if there is some sort of lemon clause or something. I'm on my 4th EVO in 4 months. Screen, USB, Volume Rocker, USB. They have replaced it under warranty each time, no charge. I guess i have a pretty good argument. This is a business phone/account so down time is money. Even if its only a couple hours each issue. Well you can bet that i'll give it a try. Hopefully the Nexus S will give me the nudge i need to call and raise hell. My 4th New EVO will be here Tuesday. At least i'll have a new phone to sell.. That's if you can keep the phone when you early terminate. Can you? I wonder if you can keep it if they let you out early... Like my situation. Hmmm Anybody had any dealings with either scenario? Thanks in advance!
ps. Please dont turn this thread in to an EVO is a great phone, why would you want to cancel thread. I know its a great phone.. When it works. I really want to get back to t-mobile. I had absolutely no issues with them in the past...Years of service. They are cheaper and their 4g is available in my area. Sprint is not, and has no plans to be any time soon. Thanks so much.
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atoy74 said:
It's not cause you reported them to the BBB but because Sprint made a fundamental change in their business operations once CEO Dan Hesse was brought on board. The very first thing he did was overhaul the customer service departments. Sprint from 2006 is not the Sprint of today.
I think it's only fair to give them credit.
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Fair enough.
But the event I described came to it's conclusion in October of 2004.
Pete

The car business are not the only companies with an official lemon law however, it also covers RVs, Boats and wheelchairs, so I think your EVO might not make the cut. I have had two cars at my dealership bought back.
Consumer protection legislation typically labels vehicles as "lemons" if the same problem recurs despite multiple repair attempts (such as three times in a row over a short period, where previous attempts have not fixed the problem) or where defects have caused a new vehicle to be out of service for a prolonged period (typically thirty days or longer) for repairs{/I]
So even if their was one for the EVO, it would most likely not apply to your situation.
That being said, I have had 3 EVOs replaced for the Screen separating, I find it quite nice that sprint keeps repairing phones, because realistically it cost them for every phone they give away for free because of it being defective. As for T-mo being cheaper, I highly doubt it.
What I see here is someone who does not have 4G in their area and wants to go back to T-mo for HSPA. Thats called "Buyers Remorse" and BBB and Sprint both frown on that.
For the record, I sat in a Union meeting with 5 of my coworkers, 4 on T-mo Galaxy S, 1 on Verizon Droid and me on Sprint. We all did speed test. They got between 0.5Mbps and 1.5Mbps while I was getting 4.5Mbps. Don't believe the hype.
If 4G hasn't gotten to you yet, you have my sympathy because I understand paying $10 extra on your plan (regardless of what it is for) can be frustrating, but Plan for Plan unless your getting some special discount, Sprint is the cheapest unlimited Phone/Text/Data plan.

I don't see how your problem is related to Sprint and the service they provide. You contracted with Sprint to provide you with a cell phone service, which they have provided. Your problem is with the build quality of your HTC phone.
I doubt they would terminate your contract without a fee unless the problem was related to Sprint's service. They have provided you with free replacements and I believe at best you could get a different phone from them, but they have not failed in their contract obligations in any way.

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I don't see how your problem is related to Sprint and the service they provide. You contracted with Sprint to provide you with a cell phone service, which they have provided. Your problem is with the build quality of your HTC phone.
I doubt they would terminate your contract without a fee unless the problem was related to Sprint's service. They have provided you with free replacements and I believe at best you could get a different phone from them, but they have not failed in their contract obligations in any way.
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As a former mobile CSR, I'm going to have to agree with this post. How is it that you guys are having so many problems with your phones anyway? I buy smartphones on Craigslist and I have a drawer-full of them. OP is having more problems with just the EVO than I've had with any phone at any time combined. (This includes two EVOs and one Epic.)
If your wireless provider has replaced your mobile phone multiple times without charge, you probably should be thankful.
And to answer your questions OP, there's no such thing as a lemon clause. If you cancel, you keep the phone unless you're in your carrier's 'buyer's remorse' period - which you are not.

The only time Ive seen it happen it had to with rreception or billing issues
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nukedukem said:
I don't see how your problem is related to Sprint and the service they provide. You contracted with Sprint to provide you with a cell phone service, which they have provided. Your problem is with the build quality of your HTC phone.
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Can't say about yours, but my Evo says Sprint in the upper right corner and it doesn't go away when I turn off the phone.
Please note that I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just making a couple observations.
Pete

I like turtles
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nukedukem said:
I don't see how your problem is related to Sprint and the service they provide. You contracted with Sprint to provide you with a cell phone service, which they have provided. Your problem is with the build quality of your HTC phone.
I doubt they would terminate your contract without a fee unless the problem was related to Sprint's service. They have provided you with free replacements and I believe at best you could get a different phone from them, but they have not failed in their contract obligations in any way.
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illogic6 said:
As a former mobile CSR, I'm going to have to agree with this post. How is it that you guys are having so many problems with your phones anyway? I buy smartphones on Craigslist and I have a drawer-full of them. OP is having more problems with just the EVO than I've had with any phone at any time combined. (This includes two EVOs and one Epic.)
If your wireless provider has replaced your mobile phone multiple times without charge, you probably should be thankful.
And to answer your questions OP, there's no such thing as a lemon clause. If you cancel, you keep the phone unless you're in your carrier's 'buyer's remorse' period - which you are not.
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So if i buy an accord from a dealership, and have problems, i would have to take it up with honda japan to get my issue resolved? The dealership is not responsible for taking care of my problems? Why, because their duty was to sell me the car, and that is done, so no more obligation to me? Wow, you guys are a bright pair. lol. That is the most ridiculous thing i've heard in a while....toddlers included.
Oh and i've had about 20 different phones in my life and this is the very first one i've ever had replaced.
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As long as your contract is settled if they want you to pay the ETF or not, you can keep the Evo. If you owe anything it'd be black listed and wouldn't be able to be used on sprint's network.
Even if you pay the ETF you can probably still come out ahead selling the Evo on ebay.
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Say Sprint says... Sorry Mr. Nugzo that you have had so many problems with the EVO we sold you. We will waive the ETF for you and wish you luck with your next carrier. I wonder if they would require the phone to be returned, i did already pay $200 that went towards the phone. I wouldn't mind giving the phone up if they refunded the $200 as well. After all they have already agreed that their merchandise has caused my problems. Of course they didn't do it on purpose, but that is irrelevant. I guess i'm kinda asking this in the wrong place. Majority of the people reading this are current sprint customers, so they havent been presented with this exact scenario, just looking for similar scenarios i guess. Anyway i'll have the answer soon enough. When i get it, i'll let every one know how it went down. Thanks everyone for contributing.

The United States is the only country where a SERVICE PROVIDER also sells the phone for customer convenience. I wonder how you all would feel if they stopped all this and you had to buy your phones from the MAKER directly. No more calling Sprint because you don't like a phone HTC built, not Sprint. No problems with TMo right? I forgot, they have different phone makers /sarcasm
I also have never had nor needed a replacement with any phone I've ever owned. I wonder what some of you guys are really doing to your devices.
By the way you will not have your ETF waived because of phone replacements, especially when your brand new working phone you're waiting for is... well, working. How many months do you have left on your contract?
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nugzo said:
So if i buy an accord from a dealership, and have problems, i would have to take it up with honda japan to get my issue resolved? The dealership is not responsible for taking care of my problems? Why, because their duty was to sell me the car, and that is done, so no more obligation to me? Wow, you guys are a bright pair. lol. That is the most ridiculous thing i've heard in a while....toddlers included.
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There's no need to be a douche bag. You asked a question and we answered it for you. Even if you don't completely understand the nature of the business, you don't need to insult those that do.

DirtyShroomz said:
The United States is the only country where a SERVICE PROVIDER also sells the phone for customer convenience. I wonder how you all would feel if they stopped all this and you had to buy your phones from the MAKER directly. No more calling Sprint because you don't like a phone HTC built, not Sprint. No problems with TMo right? I forgot, they have different phone makers /sarcasm
I also have never had nor needed a replacement with any phone I've ever owned. I wonder what some of you guys are really doing to your devices.
By the way you will not have your ETF waived because of phone replacements, especially when your brand new working phone you're waiting for is... well, working. How many months do you have left on your contract?
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I disagree. Sprint sold me the phone, thet are responsible for it. This is a business account, not a personal account, so everytime my phone is down i am potentially losing money.. Most of the time big business like sprint will do the right thing in a situation like this. Oh and i got this email the other day, after he called and woke me up at 7:00am lol Asked for me email.
"My name is Andre ****** Sprint business account manager and I wanted to make sure you were aware of some of the advantages and perks you are privy to for having a business account with Sprint Nextel."
Maybe i will just contact him about it and see what he says. If its like Time Warners business Reps, they arent worth having.

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I disagree. Sprint sold me the phone, thet are responsible for it. This is a business account, not a personal account, so everytime my phone is down i am potentially losing money.. Most of the time big business like sprint will do the right thing in a situation like this. Oh and i got this email the other day, after he called and woke me up at 7:00am lol Asked for me email.
"My name is Andre ****** Sprint business account manager and I wanted to make sure you were aware of some of the advantages and perks you are privy to for having a business account with Sprint Nextel."
Maybe i will just contact him about it and see what he says. If its like Time Warners business Reps, they arent worth having.
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This kind of mindset is bad for everyone. Sprint didn't build the phone, HTC did, you need to learn and realize that. Sprint sells you the ability to use the phone HTC made; make calls, browse the web, send texts, etc. If you don't like your phone don't buy an HTC product, but Sprint replacing your phone is them keeping up with the contract. You think HTC phones on TMo or ATT or Verizon are somehow made better? No, it's the same company making them.
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This kind of mindset is bad for everyone. Sprint didn't build the phone, HTC did, you need to learn and realize that. Sprint sells you the ability to use the phone HTC made; make calls, browse the web, send texts, etc. If you don't like your phone don't buy an HTC product, but Sprint replacing your phone is them keeping up with the contract. You think HTC phones on TMo or ATT or Verizon are somehow made better? No, it's the same company making them.
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This type of mindset is bad for everyone? lol ok. I think your ignorance is bad for everyone. Sprint sold me the phone, not HTC. You honestly think sprint should not warranty the item they sold me? I never said a thing about any phone being made better on a different carrier. I did say though that i've had over 20 phones in my life and this is honestly the first i've ever had to replace. I haven't done anything any different with this phone than i have with the others. i paid sprint $200 bucks plus signed a contract for a phone and service. You cant use the service without the phone right? Why in the world would you think they aren't responsible? Sprint is making a profit selling phones as well as selling service. I am not having problems with the service they sold me, but i am with the phone THEY sold me. Again, HTC didn't sell me the phone. Sprint warrantied the phone for 1 year, so they are responsible for it, plain and simple. Thats why they replaced it with every issue i had. They never referred me to HTC to handle it, and they wont, not while its under their (sprint) warranty.

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i never said a thing about any phone being made better on a different carrier. I did say though that i've had over 20 phones in my life and this is honestly the first i've ever had to replace. I haven't done anything any different with this phone than i have with the others. i paid sprint $200 bucks plus signed a contract for a phone and service. You cant use the service without the phone right? Why in the world would you think they aren't responsible? Sprint is making a profit selling phones as well as selling service. I am not having problems with the service they sold me, but i am with the phone THEY sold me. HTC didn't sell me the phone. Sprint warrantied the phone for 1 year, so they are responsible for it, plain and simple. Thats why they replaced it with every issue i had. They never referred me to HTC to handle it, and they wont, not while its under their (sprint) warranty.
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The phone's one year warranty isn't from Sprint, it's from HTC. Sprint is simply choosing, in your case, to deal with the manufacturer's warranty themselves so that you do not have to. This is contrary to the information that I have. I work at a retail store that sells Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile phones. In the event that a customer walks in and requires service as covered by the manufacturer's warranty for a Sprint phone I have been instructed to refer the customer directly to the manufacturer and not to Sprint. For T-Mobile and AT&T I have specific AT&T and T-Mobile phone numbers to give to the customer since AT&T and T-Mobile do handle manufacturer's warranty replacements for their customers.
If Sprint is still willing to handle manufacturer warranty replacements/repairs for you, then by all means I encourage you to continue to take advantage of that! I have no experience with manufacturer warranty replacements with Sprint (EVO is my first Sprint phone) but I can say from experience that AT&T always handled those replacements much faster than the manufacturer of the phone would have (typically with overnight delivery of the replacement phone BEFORE I sent the defective one back). I'm simply clarifying the case here and, potentially, warning you that Sprint may have changed their policy regarding the service of phones under the manufacturer's warranty since this information I've been given from my work only came out a few weeks ago.

$10 monthly charge... (Not for 4g)

It's funny, until sprint started in with BS explainations for the charge I had no problem at all with it. I was told when I bought the Epic that the charge was a network charge for 4g. And that was at a sprint store.
As a matter of fact, I was totally cool with it! And cool with it knowing it'd probably be a year minimum until I had the service because I live in a small town about 150 miles from Denver.
When it wasn't cool with me is when they started saying crap like this: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/53633;
What do you guys think? I'm pretty annoyed by it at this point.

Wasn't it the senator from WV that said "if you're gonna get raped, maybe you should just lay back and enjoy it?"
I like to think of the $10 bull$hit fee as that. Even though it's complete and utter BS, they tacked it on, and if you want one of the power phones, you'll just have to deal with it, so you might as well just pay up and enjoy the awesome phone.

quit *****ing.... its obvious its to build a network that needs to be paid off... you dont want that $10 fee get a different phone

setox said:
quit *****ing.... its obvious its to build a network that needs to be paid off... you dont want that $10 fee get a different phone
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I'm not *****ing FYI. I don't like people that I pay almost $200 a month for almost 8 years piping smoke up my ass.
But then if you'd have actually read the post and the provided link you'd have probably understood that..

jirafabo said:
Wasn't it the senator from WV that said "if you're gonna get raped, maybe you should just lay back and enjoy it?"
I like to think of the $10 bull$hit fee as that. Even though it's complete and utter BS, they tacked it on, and if you want one of the power phones, you'll just have to deal with it, so you might as well just pay up and enjoy the awesome phone.
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I agree %100 with ya. I think they need to call it what it is, like the rep I bought my phone from did.

i was just talking to my friend about this yesterday, Im under his family plan and its crap the **** they are charging for. Between the two of us its 120 each a month. and like 4g we are not able to use it, now if that 10 bucks was being used to expand the network so I could use it, I would be fine with it. But the link says its not for the network...what BS

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever read...
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I just came from sprint after being away from them for a year with the ass raping big red. Trust me when i say that sprint's plans are way better then a lot of carriers out there. The only reason i left them a year ago is because of service in my area wasn't the best but i have moved and have 5 bars. Anywho, it is only costing my wife and i 129.99 (2 smart phones) a month for 1500 minutes then unlimited everything else plus the $10.00 4g charge (which is labeled that way on my bill and explained to me by every rep in person and on the phone that way.) my verizon bill for 1 smart phone and 1 multi-media phone was 170.00 a month for 1400 minutes.
So if you want to ***** about 10 a month and being ass raped then get a pay by the minute phone and don't buy the latest and greatest thing. This is the problem with our society is that we just want to ***** rather then find a solution. Also, nothing is free and a new technology network needs to be paid for. Prolly when you renew contract after 2 years you won't have to pay anymore and the network will be everywhere 3g is as all phones will prolly be 4g.
So again. STOP *****ING

I think you guys are missing the point... the point is that Sprint is lying about the $10 charge not being for 4g access... If anyone were to call Sprint and ask them about it they will feed you the same BS line they fed me... "its because of the HD content the Epic and Evo recieve , that's its constantly updating and that's its a charge to cover all that extra data"... Which we all know to be pure crap... Now you must ask yourself... "why doesn't Sprint just fess up and say yeah it is for 4g access"... Well let me tell you, if they were to announce that it is for 4g access then they would have to bring 4G access to all markets... Which they have no control over because if you did some research you would find that Sprint 4G isn't really Sprint's... Their entire 4g network belongs to Clearwire, a wireless competitor. Which is why there has been so much controversy over it... in fact a class action lawsuit has already been filed and is widely published on the web... just google Sprint 4g Class Action Lawsuit... Now I've been a loyal Sprint customer for the past 10 years and quite frankly I would be completely fine with paying the $10 if they would just admit to what it is really for and not insult the intelligence of their customers saying that its for the "Premium Content" for the Epic and Evo knowing full well that the exact same content can be found on the Hero or any other non-4g device.
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They really are dude. I spelled it out in the OP so I don't get it.
I've never even considered another carrier. I love sprint's service. As a matter of fact. My wife stil has verizon and I refuse to switch. I've been with them for years and won't do it. So between us we pay almost $400 to verizon and sprint. And we constantly argue which is better,even thoughshe knows sprint is! So I'm a fanboy lol

I dislike being lied to and I dislike being called 'whiny' or '*****y' or being told to 'shut up' when I am merely expressing an opinion. It was my understanding that I was free to post my opinion on these boards. This is the second time this has come up and I am going to re post what I said in the last thread:
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Tell me what law sprint violated. They didn't violate any. Your only argument is that you deserve a good phone. If you can't do better than that you should just let this discussion drop. The fact is that in a competative market companies can charge what they want and we as consumers can chose to pay or go somewhere else. Well if the issue was that important to you go somewhere else. Of course you will still pay more than you pay at sprint.
The other things you cited are also abuses of the courts and the taxpayers. It doesn't make this particular abuse any better. Like I said you have made it clear that you knew about the fee prior to purchasing your phone yet purchased it anyway. What law do you think should allow the government to intervene and change the agreement you made. Would that be the law of fairness? Or how about the law of I deserve a top of the line phone? I am being sarcastic here but would truly like to hear what law sprint has violated. So far no one has been able to answer this. Even the attorney for the case says he is investigating to see if sprint violated any laws.
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Actually, recently Verizon as well as many other carriers were sued successfully due to their policies of ETFs being a violation of consumers rights even though those signing up knew about the ETFs. The issue was that someone who had a month left on their contract had to pay the same fee as someone who was canceling a month into the plan and thus was a violation of their rights.
Now I'm going to pull a sly little trick:
The issue was that someone who had a month left on their contract had to pay the same fee to cancel their contract as someone who was canceling a month into the plan and thus was a violation of their rights.
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Watch this!
The issue was that someone who had no 4g coverage had to pay the same fee to use 4g as someone who had 4g coverage and thus was a violation of their rights.
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Oh gosh! By changing just the words of the type of fee its the same circumstance!
Also, part of the reason I'm on Sprint is that my area gets terrible cell reception in general and other cell carriers have actually allowed me to cancel service without incurring an ETF because I could not use the service for which I was paying. I knew I was signing up for a cellular service and they would charge me but because I could not use their service they allowed me to get out of my contract. Again, same situation.
Even if we look at the fact they say its for the extra data you're going to use, I'm paying for unlimited data. So lets go to an analogy: I go to a buffet. I'm a small guy, so they know I probably won't eat a lot. A fat guy comes in behind me so they believe he will eat more than me so they charge him an addition fee to eat at the buffet even though the fee covers "all you can eat." That is a violation of consumer rights.
I understand that Sprint is cheaper but paying $10 a month basically because I chose to buy a better phone is absurd.
In addition, if Sprint were in the process of rolling out coverage to where I live, or even where I will be moving in 8 months, I'd pay. I'd pay oh-so-willingly. I'd be unhappy that they were lying about what the charge was for, but I would pay. But they're not. So I'm being lied to and I'm paying for YOUR service, so I have every god damned right to be ****ing angry about it.

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I agree %100 with ya. I think they need to call it what it is, like the rep I bought my phone from did.
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They can't just call it what it is, because then there would be a bunch of butthurt people trying to sue them because they cannot use the service they are paying for. Its a lot easier for everyone to understand that its for the 4g, but for corporate to stick to the line that its for the high end devices features. Its obvious its for the 4g service, and even then you have people complaining and calling for class action lawsuits against sprint. I am sure that the Sprint's legal team have figured out that they are safer describing at a corporate level that the fee is for the high end phone and not the high end service. And I am also sure that Sprint has made it known to employees to describe the fee as a 4g charge, so that if any customer complains to corporate, they can just pass it off as some misinformed store employee.

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They can't just call it what it is, because then there would be a bunch of butthurt people trying to sue them because they cannot use the service they are paying for. Its a lot easier for everyone to understand that its for the 4g, but for corporate to stick to the line that its for the high end devices features. Its obvious its for the 4g service, and even then you have people complaining and calling for class action lawsuits against sprint.
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People like you are so hilarious. You're only real arguments are name-calling and immaturity. You present no evidence except opinion and childish insults.

kenvan19 said:
People like you are so hilarious. You're only real arguments are name-calling and immaturity. You present no evidence except opinion and childish insults.
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Wut? I didn't call anyone a name, and nothing I said was immature unless you really want to nitpick my word choice. Would it make you cry less if I changed "butthurt" to "offended"?

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They can't just call it what it is, because then there would be a bunch of butthurt people trying to sue them because they cannot use the service they are paying for. Its a lot easier for everyone to understand that its for the 4g, but for corporate to stick to the line that its for the high end devices features. Its obvious its for the 4g service, and even then you have people complaining and calling for class action lawsuits against sprint. I am sure that the Sprint's legal team have figured out that they are safer describing at a corporate level that the fee is for the high end phone and not the high end service. And I am also sure that Sprint has made it known to employees to describe the fee as a 4g charge, so that if any customer complains to corporate, they can just pass it off as some misinformed store employee.
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Actually no they do not in any way describe it as a charge for 4g, in fact if you were to call customer service they will tell you exactly what was told to me in my previous post, and then if you decided to call them on it they will simply tell you that in order to have that device active on the account you MUST have that particular billing code.... And to even further prove my point, the next day I got a automated call survey about my interaction with customer service... When I rated it low, I received a call afew hours later from a Customer Satisfaction rep and when I explained my issue, guess what she told me.... thats right.... the EXACT same thing.. "Oh, you are getting that charge because the Evo and Epic are cutting edge devices and because of that fact they are constantly connecting to the web and updating apps and what not" at which point I did a facepalm and promptly disconnected the call.

Did you read my post? I clearly explained that Corporate will always stick to the line that its for a high end device, most likely because of some stupid legal issue. The employees at the stores however ALWAYS tell you its for the 4g service. I have spoken to at least half a dozen when I was buying my phone, and EVERY ONE of them described it as a 4g fee.
Also, this is how its described on my online bill.
Premium Data (required for this device)
$10.00
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Then you are lucky to have such honest sales reps in your area... My sales rep didn't even tell me about the charge and I had to find out on my bill... and thus the reason for my frustrating call to Customer Service

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Then you are lucky to have such honest sales reps in your area... My sales rep didn't even tell me about the charge and I had to find out on my bill... and thus the reason for my frustrating call to Customer Service
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Jesus, thats pretty ****ty. I would have been pissed too.

No doubt! And the problem is that it's a your word against his if you complained about it. That really sucks. I'm glad because the reps here are really cool.

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Jesus, thats pretty ****ty. I would have been pissed too.
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And if you are curious about the legal issue as to why they cannot call the charge 4g access or whatever, it's because Sprint has no control over where they can offer 4g access... Their entire 4g network is piggybacking off of Clearwire and for people in areas like myself with 0 Clearwire presence within a 300 mile radius... We are pretty much SOL. So by calling it "Premium Data" and linking it to the phone they can charge anyone with the device... vs calling it 4g Access then people can call up and say "I have no 4g in my area so take it off until it is active here"

Get out of your Verizon contract

It's possible to break out of your Verizon Wireless contract in the next 60 days without paying an early termination fee because they're increasing the "regulatory fee" they charge customers from $.13 to $.16. This is what is known as a "materially adverse change of contract" and by standard contract law, it renders the contract void if one of the parties doesn't like the change.
More information at Fatwallet and consumerist.com.
Hope this helps

Yes thanks. I read that on phandroid yesterday, have been thinking about it.

mailaliasgar said:
It's possible to break out of your Verizon Wireless contract in the next 60 days without paying an early termination fee because they're increasing the "regulatory fee" they charge customers from $.13 to $.16. This is what is known as a "materially adverse change of contract" and by standard contract law, it renders the contract void if one of the parties doesn't like the change.
More information at Fatwallet and consumerist.com.
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So a few questions if anyone has gone this route in the past:
What is the process to follow to do this? Do you just walk in and ask to be let out of your contract?
Are there any negative consequences if you decide in the future to go back to Verizon?
If you break the contract, can you remain with VZW until you purchase another phone/plan from someone else (Sprint)?

Dumb question. but if you do this can you sighn up for another 2 year contract for the discount on a new phone.
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Jmatch said:
Dumb question. but if you do this can you sighn up for another 2 year contract for the discount on a new phone.
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Breaking the ETF does not entitle you to an upgrade on your equipment. So basically you would have to start a new line of service if you do not have an upgrade. This means losing your current mobile number, and possibly paying additional activation fees/pro-ration on your next bill. If you do not care about losing your current mobile number, I say go for it.
The primary benefit I see in this is if you are already planning on switching carriers, and are currently under contract.

Monthly bill with verizion is getting too much for me especially since a lot of my family members are wishing to get smartphones.
This will be useful for me as I do not wish to pay 600 dollar to end the contract of 4 phones.

I did this yesterday. It took five minutes and was probably the easiest call I had with Verizon ever. I'm glad I don't have to give them another cent. I was told I wouldn't be able to continue paying month by month on the line but I'm not sure about signing another agreement. I wouldn't be surprised if they denied you.
Anyone want to buy a Fascinate?

Smeed said:
I did this yesterday. It took five minutes and was probably the easiest call I had with Verizon ever. I'm glad I don't have to give them another cent. I was told I wouldn't be able to continue paying month by month on the line but I'm not sure about signing another agreement. I wouldn't be surprised if they denied you.
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Could you shed some lights on your conversation? eg how you started and what did they say?
Thanks

I called and went straight to retention (I can't remember if I called the usual customer support number or the 1-888 number on the bill but either way it shouldn't matter). A woman picked up and I said I'd like to cancel my cell service because of the increase in the Regulatory Charge. She asked if they were indeed raising the price so I read the "Notice of Change To Regulatory Charge" from my bill. She asked when I received notice of this and I told her it was on my current bill. She asked if there was anyone else I'd rather just transfer the line to, I said no. Somehow I ended up reading her the bold part from the second paragraph below. She asked me if I was planning on taking the number to a different carrier, I said yes. She told me the ETF would show up on my bill with a credit, the line was being disconnected (I assume at the end of the current billing cycle) and that I'd be unable to continue paying month by month on that line because of how I was canceling.
I don't recall her even talking to a supervisor. I had the following copied straight from the user agreement just in case though.
An hour later I left the Sprint store with my number, a $125 credit for leaving verizon and an HTC Evo 3D.
What Charges Are Set by Verizon Wireless?
You agree to pay all access, usage and other charges that you or the user of your wireless device incurred. For Postpay Service, our charges also include Federal Universal Service, Regulatory and Administrative Charges, and we may also include other charges related to our governmental costs. We set these charges; they aren't taxes, they aren't required by law, they are kept by us in whole or in part, and the amounts and what they pay for may change.
Can Verizon Wireless Change This Agreement or My Service?
We may change prices or any other term of your Service or this agreement at any time,but we'll provide notice first, including written notice if you have Postpay Service. If you use your Service after the change takes effect, that means you're accepting the change. If you're a Postpay customer and a change to your Plan or this agreement has a material adverse effect on you, you can cancel the line of Service that has been affected within 60 days of receiving the notice with no early termination fee.

anyone tried this and been able to open a new account with verizon for a new phone?
also, if I do that, any way I can keep my same number for an extra fee?
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jordanzink said:
anyone tried this and been able to open a new account with verizon for a new phone?
also, if I do that, any way I can keep my same number for an extra fee?
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I highly doubt you could. Think about it: You're canceling your account completely due to the increase. Then you try to open a new account?
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You could do this in a very roundabout way, particularly if you're not the primary line on a family plan.
If it's just you, they will make you wait at least 45 (that's what Sprint does) days (VZ could be 60 or even 75, I can't remember) days before you can sign up with them again.
If you want to save some $ and wait it out (when you come back in, you wouldn't be on unlimited, though), you could port your #(s) off to a prepaid carrier (Net10, TracFone, etc) and let it sit there while the waiting period runs out.
If you're planning on staying with Verizon, it's totally not worth it. If you've been looking to jump to Sprint (cheaper) or AT&T/T-Moble (LAWL), then it's a great time to do so.

Yeah, the only reason you should even consider doing this is if you'd been thinking about switching to Sprint at the end of your contract anyways (for the savings).
'Cause if you think Verizon is bad, just wait until you try AT&T or T-Mobile.

Looks like I am switching to sprint. OK to wait 2 weeks to do this, or will it be too late by then?
Evo 3d or epic 4g... Decisions, decisions...

PhoenixPath said:
Looks like I am switching to sprint. OK to wait 2 weeks to do this, or will it be too late by then?
Evo 3d or epic 4g... Decisions, decisions...
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I believe you have 60 days, though I don't know the start day of that 60 day period. I think I read July 1st somewhere...
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PhoenixPath said:
Evo 3d or epic 4g... Decisions, decisions...
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No competition there: the Epic 4G was meant to compete with the original Evo 4G and is thoroughly outclassed by the Evo 3D (single-core 1ghz vs. dual-core 1.2ghz, 512mb vs 1gb RAM, etc.).
The Nexus S 4G, while still a 1ghz single-core/512mb RAM device, is much newer, has some extras like NFC, and is a pure Google phone (read: instant updates) so it would be a far better second option.

Does anyone know if this took effect? I know it was scheduled for July 1st, but verizon may have found a way around it does anyone have the facts?

If I could somehow use this to get an upgrade without using my new every two upgrade, that'd be awesome. But I doubt it.
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I just got off the phone with Verizon and they said I could not cancel without paying the ETF fee. Any ideas?
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plantroller said:
I just got off the phone with Verizon and they said I could not cancel without paying the ETF fee. Any ideas?
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Did you ask to speak with a manager? Did you read the article from OP? They give plenty of pointers in the consumerist article.....
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WTF? VZW unlimited plan at Dollar General

Calling vzw right now. How in the hell are they charging me a lot more for a lot less? $50 unlimited everything!!

That's pretty bad I'm gonna do a little more research and bring it to verizon in hand!
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Let me know what you find out.
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85gallon said:
Calling vzw right now. How in the hell are they charging me a lot more for a lot less? $50 unlimited everything!!
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I actually called once about this and the CSR I got told me that the unlimited web was only at 2X speeds. Now if he was lying to me is another issue....

Did you see the sale online 79 dollars for the spectrum but only for new customers the loyal customers have to pay 199 whata buncha bs!
I almost switched to sprint because of this!
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Talking to these people is like talking to a brick wall. I finally got to the point of constantly asking for a supervisor. Of course they were all busy. They are supposed to call me back but I am not holding my breath.
They told me I could transfer to a prepaid and port my number but I would have to pay the ETF of $199. I laughed and said do it. I'll be saving $60/month. Contract is not up until December. I'll save $480 by switching and it will cost me $199. Sign me up now!!!!
Then they got prepaid sales on the phone.....That is when the bull**** started!!!
First they told me my phone was not compatible. Couldn't tell me why, just that it wasn't compatible. It just wouldn't work.
You see, that Verizon is different.....It is prepaid. That's different. LOL. Scmucks.
I asked them who I currently make my check out to. They said Verizon. I asked who I would be paying on the new plan. They said Verizon. Then the customer service script reader said "But it is different!"
When I pushed them on why it wouldn't work, all they would say is that it wouldn't.
I started pushing for a supervisor and mentioned my picture of the offer of service for $50. There is not a single asterisk on it. It is pretty plain.
Well I may call them again since they haven't called me back. Maybe be an asshat and make a customer service rep have a bad day and cuss about evil customers.
Hell. I am bored and have never been to small claims. That would be fun to do. J/K..... Maybe......

Do those plans really have unlimited data ?

I'm so fed up with Verizon. I thought they wouldn't be bad but they seem to be getting worse and worse. I had Alltel and they were great. Verizon isn't as good. Now I'm just using T-Mobile prepaid because it's cheap since I can't afford my Verizon phone bill.

85gallon said:
Talking to these people is like talking to a brick wall. I finally got to the point of constantly asking for a supervisor. Of course they were all busy. They are supposed to call me back but I am not holding my breath.
They told me I could transfer to a prepaid and port my number but I would have to pay the ETF of $199. I laughed and said do it. I'll be saving $60/month. Contract is not up until December. I'll save $480 by switching and it will cost me $199. Sign me up now!!!!
Then they got prepaid sales on the phone.....That is when the bull**** started!!!
First they told me my phone was not compatible. Couldn't tell me why, just that it wasn't compatible. It just wouldn't work.
You see, that Verizon is different.....It is prepaid. That's different. LOL. Scmucks.
I asked them who I currently make my check out to. They said Verizon. I asked who I would be paying on the new plan. They said Verizon. Then the customer service script reader said "But it is different!"
When I pushed them on why it wouldn't work, all they would say is that it wouldn't.
I started pushing for a supervisor and mentioned my picture of the offer of service for $50. There is not a single asterisk on it. It is pretty plain.
Well I may call them again since they haven't called me back. Maybe be an asshat and make a customer service rep have a bad day and cuss about evil customers.
Hell. I am bored and have never been to small claims. That would be fun to do. J/K..... Maybe......
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I used to work at Verizon and also Sprint (non-corporate stores). The Sprint one was run like a corporate store and looked exactly the same as one, but the Verizon store was owned by my then-boss who was a ****.
What OP is seeing is probably Verizon's $50 a month prepaid, which only works with Blackberries and ****ty prepaid phones. I agree it's bull****. I think the people that go to Verizon and pay their ridiculous rates either have no choice due to where they live or just don't think about it. Their prices are RIDICULOUS. I was on Sprint while I worked at Verizon.

I'm pretty sure that $50 plan is only for select feature-phones, no smartphones at all. This was unveiled a year back in fact.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/04/...open-for-business-50-unlimited-prepaid-plans/

nerdydesi said:
I'm pretty sure that $50 plan is only for select feature-phones, no smartphones at all. This was unveiled a year back in fact.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/04/...open-for-business-50-unlimited-prepaid-plans/
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So basically they give unlimited web on basic phones only knowing that people won't really use much bandwidth on those. Plus the phones pictured don't even have 3G radios, I only see a 1X signal indicator.
I wanted to try to opt out of data since I can pick up wifi pretty much everywhere except when driving, but Verizon forces you to either pay $30 a month or not use a smartphone. There are times when mobile data is nice, but I could live without it. I'll probably be moving to Page Plus after my contract is up since instead of an upgrade credit, I will now have an upgrade fee if I stay with Verizon. Apparently loyal customers are a burden now at Verizon, they give new customers better deals on phones and don't really help out loyal customers anymore.