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Quick question about the screen of the G2 / Desire S compared to the super amoled of the Galaxy S? I have the I9000 and I pretty amazed of the quality of the blacks... How is it with the G2's super LCD?
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Looks better then AMOLED on my nexus IMO. Very clear and bright and not too bad in direct sunlight. I Haven't really played with the S-AMOLED because I hate Samsung phones.
The colors of the vibrant to me were more....well...vibrant I guess, especially the blacks which were really deep.
The G2 has a superb screen, very bright and cheerful. I like it.
Well the insanely deep black levels on the vibrant are because of properties of the SAMOLED. Black pixels are actually shut off on that screen. The G2 has a regular old (super) TFT-LCD. It has a higher pixel density than the vibrant since both have the same resolution but the G2 screen is lightly smaller. It has a very slight yellowish tint to it, but you only really notice it if you compare it against a more white screen, like say, my G1. Other then that it's a great screen and it's very readable in sunlight IMO.
That would explain why the clash between colors on the vibrant was more pronounced.
Also, choice of wallpaper on the phone tends to help too.
daft.71 said:
Quick question about the screen of the G2 / Desire S compared to the super amoled of the Galaxy S? I have the I9000 and I pretty amazed of the quality of the blacks... How is it with the G2's super LCD?
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I prefer the G2's screen to any AMOLED screen I've yet seen. The colors look far more natural than the garish colors of the AMOLED. Having said that, the blacks on the G2 are a very, very dark blue like on any LCD, but that's only noticeable if you're watching a movie or playing a game in the dark. In normal light or even dim light the blacks will be black.
The Nexus One had awesome contrast and looked great indoors. It makes you wish for big AMOLED TV sitting in your living room, but the N1's screen wasn't that great in the sun. The G2 is readable in full sunlight. To me, this feature is more important.
Yes I agree with the previous post about the pixel density. You can easily see the individual pixels on galaxy phones. It makes text look not so sharp. Also many of the galaxy s led screen Ive seen(work at a wal-mart cellphone kiosk) are tinted blue. White is always a light blue.
I prefer the G2 screen in the end.
super amoled on my vibrant looks way better than the g2 both in doors and out. No comparison. I also thing my g2 screen looks way better than my nexus one screen too. Both in doors and out. I personally don't like how over saturated colors look on the n1. Outdoors the g2 bests the n1 by a long shot.
Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, my main concern is - How are the black levels gonna be? I absolutely LOVE SuperAMOLED - Mainly, the blacks - I LOVE THEM and I'm sure many other users do. I don't know if the LG's black levels are gonna be as good or better? Does anything know that?
I have a choice to jump from the Gnex to the Nex4 but if the screen's black levels aren't as good - I probably won't.
What's your opinion about the screen?
Go look at a One X, it'll be similar to that (which is SO much better than the GNex screen - IPS ftw!!)
Yeah but the black levels
It definitely won't be as good. The question is, will it be good enough.
The apparent high end screen on my laptop has a rubbish black level. So I'm also hoping the Nexus 10 has good blacks, so I can use that for media instead.
But did you look at the Htc One X screen, or atleast youtube it?
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Yeah I've used the One X a lot of times and I'm not impressed at all. The color reproduction is good but the black levels don't amaze me, at all. I feel that my nexus' screen is much better than the OneX (Just my opinion, don't pounce on me)
With AMOLED, the blacks are black because the led's are switched off, it doesn't try make the colour "Black".
LCD screens do not do this. So blacks will be grey, but colours and viewing angles WILL be better. Another thing, AMOLED is a battery drain with anything other than the colour black.
OLED screens will always have darker blacks than LCDs. That's just due to the nature of how each type of screen technology works.
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
arzbhatia said:
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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But your question meant that you don't. If you know this, then you should know about LCD too...
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I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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They will probably be as good as any IPS LCD on the market. LG makes very good smartphone displays, including iPhone 4/4S/5 displays.
Just look at the present ips screen on the LG top model phones, i'm sure the nexus 4 will be similar.
The blacks will not be the same as others mentioned but it's a tradeoff. Super amoleds have good contrast and blacks but the ips lcd's I've seen had better color accuracy and sharper images. I like amoleds but the whites and other colors aren't that good and the brightness isn't high enough for my taste. I look forward to seeing the n4 up close
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I have mixed feelings as well regarding the screen of the new Nexus 4. I also own a Galaxy Nexus, and aside from the black levels, there is another area where the AMOLED screens shine: motion handling. LCDs tend to blur images in fast motion, motion resolution isn't usually very good. This is very noticeable when watching action films or sports, for example.
However, AMOLED screens are very fast thus their motion handling is on par (or even better than) with plasmas, which gives you crisp and clear images even when moving (blur ocurring depending on the shooting conditions but that's a whole different story).
So, to summarize the differences between the screens:
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will be slightly clearer, the pentile matrix used in the AMOLED screen makes it slightly more "blurry", although due to its high pixel density that's usually hard to see.
- The screen of the Galaxy Nexus has perfect blacks, the screen of the Nexus 4 doesn't. The point is, will its blacks be "black enough" even for multimedia? "Black enough" is very subjective...
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will probably handle motion worse than the Galaxy Nexus one. The point again will be if it handles motion well enough.
It seems that the screen of the Nexus 4 is slightly better for reading and web browsing but slightly worse for multimedia. I only have a Galaxy Nexus (no access to HTC One X, etc) so anyway I can't really compare.
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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eksasol said:
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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The Nexus 4 will have better viewing angles than the AMOLED.
Sunlight will probably be better too. Colours will be more realistic, and battery life will be lower apart from on a black screen.
I don't like the oversaturated colors of amoled screens, and true colors are important in my work, so I much prefer a good IPS screen. Too bad about the blacks though.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
I would have to say my biggest concern is how the screen will perform in the direct sunlight. Of the phones I've had the gnex does best in direct sunlight. Very easily readable and use able in direct sunlight. All my other phones have been washed out in the sun. They where some form of lcd's, but not any of the newer generation super performing lcd's that are out now. The HTC Rezound I had was the best LCD screen I've owned. Amazing picture but suffered in the sun.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
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I think that's either black crush like the original note had or the black spots which nearly all amoled screens get because of the way they are produced.
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Everyone who's owned a SIII knows the screen is completly useless when it comes to the sun being shined at it. Cannot see anything. What about the S4? Same issue? Just curious about to buy one
Also how's the screen for you all? =)
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I haven't found it too bad, I have found the auto brightness to adjust really well. It hasn't been too sunny here though
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Shoulon said:
Everyone who's owned a SIII knows the screen is completly useless when it comes to the sun being shined at it. Cannot see anything. What about the S4? Same issue? Just curious about to buy one
Also how's the screen for you all? =)
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I don't have an S4 yet but a report by displaymate a couple of days ago showed that when you have auto brightness turned on the AMOLED screen is just as bright as the brightest LCDs out there (around 475 nits). Of course you can't set this amount of brightness manually since you would overheat your phone and cause screen burn in if you did. That is why Samsung only allows this for when you have on auto brightness. Since as soon as you go back indoors it will lower the brightness back down.
Long time S3 user (launch) and just picked up the S4 yesterday. The screen, in terms of quality, offers a noticeable improvement over the S3. I migrated everything over from one phone to the other and there's no mistaking which is which. The total difference, however, is less than the difference we saw going in the S2->S3 IMO.
In bright light, unfortunately, they're basically the same as far as I can tell. The auto-brightness setting seems more conservative on the S4 (possibly to help with thermal issues), but I haven't had a chance to crank it up all the way out in the sun.
If screen brightness matters a lot to you, I urge you to take a look at the EVO. The LCD screen on that is much improved, extremely bright as usually, and the blacks are getting considerably blacker (see anantech review). I myself played with it for a half hour but quickly jumped back on the S4 since it fits me better.
I've owned every galaxy phone since the galaxy epic. (Sprint qwerty phone) AMOLED screens are great despite no anti glare features.
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Screen is great until your moving grey on a black background and then you have weird purple smears going on. Not sure if it's a faulty display or just 'how it's meant to be'
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The screen is stunning! Extremely sharp with smooth text and eye popping colours, its basically like Apple's Retina display on iP5 but with AMOLED benefits on top.
In sunlight it fares well from my experience, better than S3, IMO, its a lot less reflective.
Stunning!
6 Stars.
I am currently using Galaxy Nexus, its screen brightness is kind of average nowadays.... Just OK indoors and barely visible outdoors (but feels fine to me)
I tried to switch to Galaxy Note II last fall but hated its screen low brightness, it felt for me like a mirror, reflecting all that light from lamps indoors. Also, I hated fingerprints on it which were visible with the screen on.
I have just read a lot of reviews about SGS 4, that the screen brightness is even lower and it is impossible to see anything outdoors and perhaps it has the same problems of reflecting lights that I hated with Note 2.
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand what I mean
Was already prepared to buy SGS 4 Nexus edition but now I am really concerned about the screen
Probably going to wait for the next motorola devices
There are brighter screens out there but it's a lot better than some say. Unfortunately the auto brightness doesn't work too well which effects some people's opinion a little too easily I suspect despite the fact it's a software issue which will undoubtedly be improved.
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Can anyone please tell me how Galaxy s4 screen handles Sunligh is it same as S^3
It's not that great, I have not comparted it to S3 but it is sometimes hard to see what's on the screen (it was better on my fake S3 from China). The most annoying thing is if you have autobrightness turned on and you get a call while outside, it takes about 3 seconds to increase the brightness (if you take the phone out of your pocket) of the screen for you to see who is calling.
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It's not that great, I have not comparted it to S3 but it is sometimes hard to see what's on the screen (it was better on my fake S3 from China). The most annoying thing is if you have autobrightness turned on and you get a call while outside, it takes about 3 seconds to increase the brightness (if you take the phone out of your pocket) of the screen for you to see who is calling.
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I'm always using a anti glare screen protector, it improves around 70% in the minimum brightness! I guess is not a bad idea to have one on
leeomendes said:
I'm always using a anti glare screen protector, it improves around 70% in the minimum brightness! I guess is not a bad idea to have one on
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yes but you are from London its not sunny there
cihanleanne said:
yes but you are from London its not sunny there
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Read again. I am from Brazil living in London, already tested the same screen protector there, of course is not the same effect but is much better than without it.
cihanleanne said:
Can anyone please tell me how Galaxy s4 screen handles Sunligh is it same as S^3
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Better then s3 for sure since it has a higher ppi
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Tbh I've never had any problems with visibility in sunlight. The smudges shine, but that's the case with any phone. AMOLED is by nature pretty good in sunlight, it's nothing you should worry about.
Definitely an improvement over S3, at least with auto brightness on. You can see what you're doing even in strong sunshine.
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Tbh I've never had any problems with visibility in sunlight. The smudges shine, but that's the case with any phone. AMOLED is by nature pretty good in sunlight, it's nothing you should worry about.
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Amoled is NOT 'good by nature' in sunlight. LCDs however are because when the sun shines straight onto it they show their reflective side (as opposed to their blocking/filtering side during normal operations) and you can still read/see what you're doing. That way LCDs are NOT pretty but they're readable. NO Amoled I know of is very readable in the same conditions. Again, this is with the screen in direct sunlight on a nice and sunny day.
What did get better, when compared to the S3, is: screen is brighter and the colour scheme for email changed from dark (which makes things worse in sunlight) to a brighter scheme
As for those matte screen protectors: worst thing EVER on a high res display
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Better then s3 for sure since it has a higher ppi
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I love that logic! Thanks for making me smile
ok just bought 2 HTC Ones tried S4 and it was no good under sunlight HTC one handled it much better and i wanted to help HTC by buying from them dont want that company to go down
your opnion, alright ^^ for me is still better with the screen protector than without it. of course u cant buy the **** ones... my one is perfect, still a awesome screen for me
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Amoled is NOT 'good by nature' in sunlight. LCDs however are because when the sun shines straight onto it they show their reflective side (as opposed to their blocking/filtering side during normal operations) and you can still read/see what you're doing. That way LCDs are NOT pretty but they're readable. NO Amoled I know of is very readable in the same conditions. Again, this is with the screen in direct sunlight on a nice and sunny day.
What did get better, when compared to the S3, is: screen is brighter and the colour scheme for email changed from dark (which makes things worse in sunlight) to a brighter scheme
As for those matte screen protectors: worst thing EVER on a high res display
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Oh really? Sorry about that then, I need to get my facts straight. I wonder where I got that idea.
But anyway, personally I've had no troubles with my screen in sunlight. Then again I do live in a nordic country so sunlight isn't as bright.
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Oh really? Sorry about that then, I need to get my facts straight. I wonder where I got that idea.
But anyway, personally I've had no troubles with my screen in sunlight. Then again I do live in a nordic country so sunlight isn't as bright.
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I hear what you're saying and, no hard feelings, but here in Autralia I was forced to go back inside on a number of occasions (although this was with an S3) because I could not read ANYTHING on my screen. If you think about it, Amoled produces light.....how is that going to stack up against the light produced by the sun....not too well. A LCD or TFT display has a backlight and some sort of 'layer' that blocks/filters the backlight. Even in direct sunlight this is readable because that 'layer' is clearly visible and becomes reflective. To be honest it's more black and white at that point but it works. Of course the dark S3 theme din't help. I would imagine in environments that are not as bright the S3 and (even more so) the S4 would work without issues even in direct sunlight.
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leeomendes said:
your opnion, alright ^^ for me is still better with the screen protector than without it. of course u cant buy the **** ones... my one is perfect, still a awesome screen for me
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Whatever works for you. I'm just saying that all the 'matte' and 'anti-glare' protectors I had just made the image fuzzy due to the....well...rough(?) surface of the protector. They used to be fine in the old QVGA days but now I find them reducing the sharpness of the image.