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[ROM][WWE][Nov.17.2010] T WM w ANDROID COOKED IN! BlueTopia 1.0.3 by cmylxgo

ANDROID THE EASY WAY v3
My UltraLite ROM with the following Android Built In (Screens in Post 2):
Desire Sense - BlueTopia v1.0.3, by cmylxgo.
FAST, STABLE, COOL as Heck! Thank you cmylxgo for allowing me to cook your fantastic builds into my ROMs. If you like this version of Android, please take the time to thank cmylxgo in his thread.
Booting into Android is controlled by My Android AutoBoot MortScript.​
This ROM is for people who want to run Android on their HD2, but maybe don't know where to start. I've spent many hours getting this all working together and working out the bugs so you don't have to. Just run my AutoFlash file, Wait 20-25 minutes, and you will be running Android on your HD2. No worries about where to copy things, or what Radio works with what ROM.
IT JUST WORKS!!!
(As well as Android CAN work on an HD2)​
The Windows Portion of this ROM is based on latest T-Mobile 3.14 with almost everything removed, and Radio 2.15.50.14. Not really worth booting into WM as it's VERY stripped down, and it's just used to load Haret to get Android going.​
If you want to Flash this ROM, then change the Android build to another, you may, by replacing the Android Folders on your SD Card with your desired Build.​
Please read all below before starting. Warning, this will erase all your data and your current ROM. Please backup your DATA First! You can always flash back to your prefered ROM if you don't want to keep this.​
Watch the Videos or Follow the 7 Steps Below.​
Step 1. Download: Download all files listed here.
a. HardSPL3 Required. If you already have HardSPL3 flashed, you can skip this.​
b. Task29 provided by doloop.zip Required.​
c. AutoFlash SuperSport - BlueTopia 1.0.3 by cmylxgo - Radio - Hasterin Kernel 8.5.1 v3 Required.
Grab All 4 Parts. Sorry so LARGE!! It's the only way to include everything. MediaFire allows Multiple downloads at a time, so if you have a fast Connection, grab all 4 pieces at once. Mirrors at bottom of this post.​
Step 2. Unpack Files: Unzip Task 29 and HardSPL3.​
Step 3. Prepare SD Card: Clean old Android and any Android helper folders OFF SD Card ie: Android, Media, FilesToBeDeleted, etc. Recommended - For best results, backup your card, then re-format FAT32.​
Step 4. Insert SD Card: Be sure your SD Card is re-installed in your HD2 if not already.​
Step 5. HardSPL3: If needed, Flash HardSPL3: Run HSPL3_PKG.exe that you extracted earlier, or be sure you’ve already done it in the past. Follow the instructions found HERE if you don’t know how to install it. This will take about 3 mins.
Step 6. Task29: Run Task29 provided by doloop.exe that you extracted earlier. This should be done before ANY Flash, not only this one. If running Windows Vista or 7, you must Right Click and Run as Administrator. Be sure your phone is connected by USB before running and follow the instructions. It’s just like flashing a ROM. When it reaches 95%, press and HOLD the Volume Down button until it reboots into Bootloader Mode (Red, Green, Blue Screen). This will take about 2 mins.
Step 7. Flash My ROM: Be sure your SD Card is installed in your HD2, then Flash your phone with my ROM. Be sure your phone is connected by USB then enter Bootloader Mode (Red, Green, Blue Screen) by Holding Down the Volume Down button while turning on phone. Run the file "AutoFlash SuperSport - BlueTopia 1.0.3 by cmylxgo - Radio - Hasterin Kernel 8.5.1.part1.exe", the one with My Icon. Follow the Instructions until your phone Reboots. This will take about 9 1/2 mins. Windows will Automatically Reboot a couple more times. Please Wait for Android to start loading. Do NOT touch anything during this step.
Step 8. Wait while Android Starts: Android will now start initializing. You will see the Green hTC logo. Allow Android to set up the Data Space. This takes a LONG time! Be VERY Patient. Up to 10 mins the first time (Mine was 8 mins, Future boots after the first time boot quickly). It will sit on the HTC logo for a LONG time, then blank screen, then final boot. When you see the Slide Down to Unlock Screen, Android is running!!! Complete the Android Setup, then do a final Reboot to finish setting all the programs. To Reboot Android, press and hold the Red Hangup/Power button, then select Reboot, then Select Normal and OK.
That's It, Enjoy!
Installation Video:
How to Prepare for and then Flash My ROM with Android Included
To Play Larger, Click the Video During Playback to open in YouTube.
TIPS:
To Sync Android with your PC, you can use your Google Account, or HTC Sync. HTC Sync allows Photo and Music Sync along with APP Installations.
If you want to prevent the phone from booting into Android, press cancel when prompted just after phone starts up. It will be in WM on a white screen. You only have 6 seconds before AutoBooting into Android Happens.
To Flash another ROM, enter Bootloader - Hold down the Volume Down button while powering on your phone, then Flash your prefered ROM. You can run another Windows Mobile ROM and keep the Android Build on your SD Card if you prefer. Just flash another ROM, then browse your SD Card to the Android Folder, then run CLRCAD.exe, then haret.exe.
Installation Timing Table:
Start Flash
00:00
WM Flash Complete after
9 Minutes 20 Seconds
2 Reboots - LET THE PHONE DO THIS. DO NOT Manually Reboot your phone.
Moving Android to SD Card. Looks like nothing is happening, but it is. Be SURE to wait for this.
3 Minutes
Reboot to Green hTC - Also let the phone do this. DO NOT Manually Reboot the phone.
Green hTC Turns Off after (Important, This is where the Data File is being created, wait for this)
7 Minutes 30 Seconds
Droid Sound and Blue Logo after
30 Seconds
Android Lock Screen after
1 Minute 30 Seconds
DONE! Unlock and finish setting up accounts, etc... NOW you can Manually Reboot one more time.
This is how long everything takes on My HD2. Your's might be slightly different, but it should be within a minute or two for each step. Different SD Cards MIGHT effect the time taken. If something seems to be too long, give it an additional 1-2 minutes for each step, then try again.
Thanks to Scabes24 for this Mirror:
MegaUpload Mirror - http://www.megaupload.com/?f=E28BQS7N
Change boot time of AutoBoot (2 Second) (6 Second)
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Manilla ROM Upgrade.
This ROM is an upgrade for the ROM posted on the first page. This ROM will replace the ROM on the First post. If you have not flashed the ROM on the first page, you will not get Android with this Upgrade.
What this ROM will do:
This is a Fully Capable Sense ROM with extras included, Swype, IME Keyboard, etc. It's based off the latest T-Mobile v3.14 Release ROM. It does not include the Radio or Android. I HIGHLY recommend using THIS RADIO for use with Android.
You can also use this ROM if you want to run another Android Build. As long as you've installed the Android build into the 'Android' folder on your SD Card and CLRCAD.exe and haret.exe are both in that folder, it will boot as before.
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Grab BOTH parts and run the first part. After Flashing this ROM, do a Soft Reset, then wait for it to automatically reboot twice! It's now ready for Android.

Reserved for Future Use
Screen Shot of my Stripped Base ROM
Screen Shots of cmylxgo's BlueTopia 1.0.3

if i had just installed this on the 16th the other way is there any differances to flashing agin this way or just keep what i have?

2002blackedge said:
if i had just installed this on the 16th the other way is there any differences to flashing agin this way or just keep what i have?
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This particular build was not up yesterday. It's a new Android Build. If you like what you have, you can stay with it. Check out the Android Build Link above to decide what you want to do.
PS: For anyone who has not already downloaded this, Please wait! I'm uploading an update. Nothing major, so if you've already got it, it's fine. Just differences in how it copies the Android files over to SD and how it boots up. I'll post new links when complete.

i will probably reflash being that there was quite a bit more added to the android rom plus some fixes to things, how often will you be updating yours to keep up with the android rom? sorry for the noob question now but how would i go about reflashing after having ur other one installed, just reformat the sd card fat 32 and do it or do i need to use task 29 again?

2002blackedge said:
i will probably reflash being that there was quite a bit more added to the android rom plus some fixes to things, how often will you be updating yours to keep up with the android rom? sorry for the noob question now but how would i go about reflashing after having ur other one installed, just reformat the sd card fat 32 and do it or do i need to use task 29 again?
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Actually, if all you want to do is update the Android Build and you are happy with the Windows Mobile portion, you can just download the new Android Build from cmylxgo's thread and replace it on your SD Card. I recommend reformatting your SD Card, but you can just delete all the old Android folders if you want. Remember, you will loose all your Android settings, etc.
I have heard about a program called Titanium Backup that is supposed to backup/restore programs and settings, but I have not used it yet. Try a search for it if interested. It's also in the Android Marketplace, I believe.
PS: The ROM cooked into My Release today is BlueTopia 1.0.2. cmylxgo released BlackTopia 1.0.3 today. Be sure to get the one you want.

for the android folders that get deleated, in the root menu of the sd card is it just the folder that says android and then all the folders inside of it, or are there other folders in the root of the sd card?

YouTube Installation Video
I just uploaded an HD Quality video to YouTube with Instructions on how to Install this ROM. It's at the bottom of Post #1 or on the YouTube site HERE.
It may be a few minutes before it becomes live, and a couple more before it's HD Quality. I JUST uploaded it.

2002blackedge said:
for the android folders that get deleated, in the root menu of the sd card is it just the folder that says android and then all the folders inside of it, or are there other folders in the root of the sd card?
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Definately that folder and everything inside, but there may also be other folders.
On my SD Card, I would delete the Following
.android_secure
.footprints
Android
LOST.DIR
media
rosie_scroll
rssreader
Each build is a little different. Also depends on any apps installed.

mms
anyone get pic msg working i can send txt msg but not pic msg!!!

How long is the battery lifetime? About a day?

ihateu said:
anyone get pic msg working i can send txt msg but not pic msg!!!
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What Internet Provider are you with? Im on ATT, and I need to install a patch to get it working correctly... Not sure if it would help you or not. Once you install it, you can't uninstall it. You'd need to load Android again to remove it.
The developer of the Android Build says the patch is for anyone that's not strictly on T-Mobile, so I don't know who all it would help. You can get it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820696 attached to the first post at the bottom. It's called Topia.Series.NON-TMOUS.Patch.rar and installation instructions are also on the bottom of first post.
beenja said:
How long is the battery lifetime? About a day?
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If you are VERY conservative, it will go a day, 8-12 hours. But, the way I use it (Ride it like a Race Horse), I can kill the battery in a couple hours. Lot's of Email, Internet, Youtube, Games, etc... Android is a new toy for me, so I use it hard.

still having a pretty bad issue with the touch screen not working all the timo, have to keep locking and unlocing the phone until it comes back. any thoughts?

The problem i had was that after i did everything i think i interupted the last part of the syncronisation, so when it was in stock mode it didnt boot android. If u will ahve this problem just restart the last part of the instalation(Just run the "AutoFlash SuperSport Android BlueTopia 6" wich has the superman mark =) and dont interupt anything, Let it work and after a while it should boot android , It is working perfectly and is realy nice to have android. It kicks WM6.5 sence ass

2002blackedge said:
still having a pretty bad issue with the touch screen not working all the timo, have to keep locking and unlocing the phone until it comes back. any thoughts?
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I haven't run into that at all yet. I will keep my eyes open and if I run into a fix, I will share.
Samorau said:
hmm im having a little problem, after i done everything you said, i folowed the youtube guide, I got into stock android thingie but when it tries to boot android it says "failed to load file/storage card/android/zImage What is the problem :/?
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It sounds like files didn't finish copying to your SD Card.
After the Flash started, did you tell the phone to reset at any point during setup? The phone will do all the reboots for you until Android Starts. If you reset the phone at the wrong time, it might have prevented all the Android files from copying to your SD Card.
Try flashing again, and don't touch until the Android Lock Screen Appears.

I installed the previous build of this ROM and love it - using the 0.6 version of BlueTopia. I have a few minor issues, but nothing serious. Is there any compelling reason to update to the new Android build? I ask becuase I have all my settings etc and dont really want to start over just for the sake of installing an update.
T-Mobile USA HD2

Samorau said:
Problem fixed =)
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Can you please repost the question and what you did to fix it, just for others benefit? Thank you! Just in case anyone else is having the same problem...

jasonatr0n said:
I installed the previous build of this ROM and love it - using the 0.6 version of BlueTopia. I have a few minor issues, but nothing serious. Is there any compelling reason to update to the new Android build? I ask becuase I have all my settings etc and dont really want to start over just for the sake of installing an update.
T-Mobile USA HD2
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I think if it's working for you and you are happy, stick with it. The updates are mostly theme updates and fixes for things that don't work. If yours works I'd leave it. 0.6 is still a GREAT build.

touch screen
I'm having same issue with touch screen haven't been able to get mines working for hrs now how are u getting yours to come back
BTW mine is on the lock screen that u have to slide down

I would recommend removing the battery and reboot. See if it clears up. If not, might need to start from Task29.
Sent from my HD2 using Android BlueTopia & XDA app.

WP7 Install on HD2 T-Mobile Version TIPS

My Guide to Installing Windows Phone 7 on HTC HD2 TMOUS(T-Mobile US) edition
I’m sure there are lots of guides out there and I am noting other threads and give ALL CREDITS to where credit is do. I CLAIM NOTHING BUT UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESSES AND THE PAINS OTHERS HAVE ALREADY ENDURED TO GET THIS WORKING.
Most of the directions were pretty straight forward but just felt that they didn’t highlight things that you needed to know. I found that this knowledge and method of doing things made it easy and the best chance for you to get it working the first time around.
I USED THE INSTALL GUIDE FOR XBmod-Yuki located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246040 to actually walk through the install. Below is simply the consolidated knowledge I learned from countless hours of research in the forums and the REAL work done by others. I am hoping this post helps to eliminate the constant posting of the same issues where the answers are often buried within pages of postings. This is not from an expert but from someone who spent days trying to get WP7 on the HD2 because I wanted to use it.
MicroSD TIPS
First off: REMOVE MicroSD MEMORY CARD. Simply put you don’t need it till you update to MANGO (build 7720 of WP7 software) using Zune. All it does is cause hundreds of forum postings about why people can’t get it working.
Secondly, NOT ALL MicroSD MEMORY CARDS ARE EQUAL. After much research in the forums and all the problems I had with trying to get this working, I can honestly say that I still do not know that there is a single source of the problem. What I can say is that MicroSD MEMORY CARDS that work get easier to find as you update. We could go on for hours about this topic and people will say all sorts of things but this is what I found to work for me. FOLLOW RULE #1 from above then stick with quality brands with at least a Class 4 rating (the number in the small circle on the card). People recommend SanDisk above all else, other cards do work.
Third, the use of a MicroSD card with WP7 OS will lock the card and encrypt it. You CANNOT use this card with anything else until it is unlocked. TONS of guides on this but there are three methods to it.
• Using some form of disk destruction or partitioning software such as KillDisk to remove the lock
• Using your phone to unlock by side loading an app on your phone and booting into WP7 after Hard Reset and unlocking. I USED this method after many hours trying other things and not understanding how this worked, therefore I will elaborate on this more in just a bit.
• Using a special Nokia phone/camera that does low-level formatting of any media inserted. There’s a list of devices that are known to work in the forum.
Expansion notes of using phone to unlock:
You can put WP7 on your phone without a memory card in it at all. DO THIS FIRST. Once you get WP7 up and running you can use Zune to update your phone to where it tells you have the latest release (NOT MANGO YET), the build is 7392 (NODO) update. Google this to find build number or I will edit it in eventually. Side load the unlock app as outlined in the install guide. Once you have this you must understand the way the process works. WP7 encrypts and preps any MicroSD card at time of first boot. With that said you MUST USE the same WP7 ROM to get this to work. So if you locked your card using the XBmod-Yuki ROM then you have to use it to unlock it. I tried HD2O ROM and then went back and realized the card was not only locked to WP7, it was locked to that build. I was successful at flashing the XBmod-Yuki release back into place after flashing the HD2O and was able to use the MicroSD and unlock if I needed to. Which I did since I used like 10 cards before figuring out Rules #1 and #2 of MicroSDs.
THE TRICK TO SUCCESS:
After having the same WP7 ROM you locked your MicroSD with installed and updated to NODO, the unlock app installed, you can simply do a HARD RESET.
What is a “HARD RESET”: Simply put either use WP7 – Settings -> About -> Reset or using the Vol up and down where you it counting in MAGldr, 1,2,3,4,5,6. When you hold the Volume Up and Down it will present you with a white screen and you simply press Volume Down twice to do the same thing that using the menu item in WP7 does. The great thing is that first time you boot into WP7 it doesn’t seem to care about the memory card much. You can run the unlock app and then do a battery pull and remove the card. At this point Windows on your PC will see the card and you will be able to format it. If you have more than one card simply insert the next card and use the Volume button reset method. It will make you go through the initial WP7 setup screens each time but heck you unlock the card without much effort. I found this method to be the most useful and easy method.
Remember you will need to HARD RESET after each memory card change including once you are done unlocking all the cards you locked trying to get this working and have the card you will be using.
Remember your MicroSD card must be inserted before WP7 boots. Easiest way I know of was to simply pull the battery out when done unlocking or before HARD RESETTING.
INSTALLATION NOTES/OUTLINE FROM FORUM POST REFENCED ABOVE WITH CHANGES THAT I SAW SINCE THEIR WRITINGS
1. READ READ READ the Install Guide and follow the guidelines above
2. HARD SPL v2.08, when using the install tool simply select the one with .HSPL at the end NOT .0000, the HSPL means HARDened. This simply allows you to be sure you can get the tricolor boot screen (get to by holding Volume Down) no matter what you do to the phone. The Tricolor screen allows you to fix most damage that I saw.
3. Radio – Just simply use LEO_RADIO_2.15.50.14, it supports all HD2 versions so it doesn’t matter if you have TMOUS or EU edition of the phone. The rest of the radios listed are older and for the general user are not useful for this process.
4. MAGldr 1.13 is the NEWEST VERSION for the boot loader. Install this. Why, because it allows your phone to actually load WP7. You can use it for Android too if you wish to dual boot but I don’t cover that as you won’t be using these notes if you are that advanced with things.
5. Windows Mobile 6.5 Stock ROM, I honestly have no idea why you use this but I can follow directions and so should you. Install it and move on.
6. Zune, just simply install it, you will need it to update. MAKE SURE IT IS CLOSED AT ALL TIMES OTHERWISE. If not it will interfere with installing using other methods.
7. WP7 Update CAB Sender. You will need this. It is a very simple program to use. Whatever CAB files you stick the folder with the .bat file it will install on the phone. Be sure you pay close attention to adding and removing CABs from the folder as they are needed.
8. To Get to MANGO you must do the HD2-7720fix and the DeviceProvisioning.CAB steps (#11 and 12 from post #4 of the install guide), Zune will take you directly to MANGO 7720 instead of 7712 which I am assuming changed since the guide was made. No need to complete the #14 step from what I can see since Zune seems to be able to install RTM version of 7720 automatically. This may change at some point where as long as you got 7392 update and a working MicroSD you don’t need the fix part or the device provisioning cab but I could be wrong. I just did steps #11 and #12 and got MANGO to shop up as the update.
9. HARD RESET IS YOUR FRIEND, it cures most issues with MicroSD issues, including lockups, freezing and crashing.
I hope this helps you get your WP7 loaded the first time. READ READ READ the install guide fully and before each step be sure you know what you are to do and you will be successful.
If can sticky this or reuse it eslewhere to aid in the install guides please do so. PLEASE "THANKS" ME SO I MIGHT GROW IN RECOGNITION AND HELP FURTHER!

Hi
the new Hd20 (v1.22) cannot see any wi-fi (both wpa2 protected and unlocked).
Can you tell me how you got it to work ? I see that most of the posts are from
outside the US (probably using the EU version of HD2). I have the TMOUS version
and in the US.
thx
z

Very nice work. I have been planning to get my hands back on my HD2 that I had given away to my dad a few months back, and have been trying to read up on all that is there to know about having WP7 on the HD2 and I have to say that this is the best post out there that I have come across.
Thanks a bunch !

Hi,
Would you consider changing the format of your tutorial? As in... varying fonts, using paragraph spacing, bold where applicable, and maybe indentations? Right now, it looks information, but a giant mass of words with no visual separation.

anseio said:
Hi,
Would you consider changing the format of your tutorial? As in... varying fonts, using paragraph spacing, bold where applicable, and maybe indentations? Right now, it looks information, but a giant mass of words with no visual separation.
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^ I agree with this.
Very useful info, but would be easier to follow if formatted for better organization.

waiting for 1 day the T-Mobile HD2 can use the full 1024ROM, even don't need the extend card....may it be ?
"At current moment LEO1024 supported, but only 512 megabytes of NAND is used. "

bount said:
waiting for 1 day the T-Mobile HD2 can use the full 1024ROM, even don't need the extend card....may it be ?
"At current moment LEO1024 supported, but only 512 megabytes of NAND is used. "
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Not sure what you mean by this comment.

I'm testing to see if I can replicate this issue, I do not have this issue as far as I can tell.

I revised my post, is it better or do you have suggestions to make this better? Is there a better place for my notes to go? i.e. different post or thread? Referenced in a STICKY? I am happy to help however I can.

That is so much easier to read now. Thanks for making it pretty!!!

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waiting for 1 day the T-Mobile HD2 can use the full 1024ROM, even don't need the extend card....may it be ?
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azon21 said:
Not sure what you mean by this comment.
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The USA T-Mobile HD2 has 1GB ROM and 576 MB RAM, whereas the Asian and European versions have 448 MB RAM (576 MB of RAM enabled by Special Radio) and 512 MB ROM. NAND is the internal flashable memory here, or the ROM in the phone. bount is wondering if the full 1GB of ROM can be used on the USA T-Mobile, rather than using the SD card. A more likely scenario might be having Windows Phone 7 and Windows Mobile on partitions in the 1GB of ROM, and Android on the SD card..............

Awesome this post is awesome........
Sir make a new post where we can get dual boot process WM7.5 & Android
Thanks in Advanceeeeeeee

SOHOM said:
Awesome this post is awesome........
Sir make a new post where we can get dual boot process WM7.5 & Android
Thanks in Advanceeeeeeee
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You can find all the information you are seeking on dual booting in this thread. I hope you find the information you need in that thread.

URGENT - Root Certificate Expiring + Fix

You may not know the root certificate needed for your webOS device is going to expire 23 July, 2013...
This certificate is needed for setting up a profile, backup/restore, App Catalog access and any other HP cloud services that webOS devices depend on.
The fix is announced and is coming today!!!!!
http://www.webosnation.com/hp-issue...-ensure-continued-access-webos-cloud-services

Pro Tips:
If your device has been dormant, make sure you update the date and time before attempting the App Catalog Update. This is valid up until July 22, 2013.
JULY 23, 2013 & LATER: You will need to set your date back to July 22, 2013 to connect to HP's servers and get the update.
The update is available through Software Manager as an update to the HP App Catalog application. I found it easier to open the App Catalog and search for new apps. There is an Update available for download/install under the name App Catalog Update with HP listed as the publisher/developer. It seems to install better this way. I tried 3 different devices: TouchPad, Veer and Pre 2. In the end, the method I describe (set date/use App Catalog and not Software Manager) was the one that woked on Pre 2 which was the most stubborn of the 3.
If you get stuck: reboot, make sure your date and time are current (up to 22-07-13) or is set to July 22nd (use from 23-07-13 and beyond). Then get the Update from the App Catalog itself.
New activations from 23-07-13 onward are supposed to be able to get through First Use and then auto-update the certificate...

How does one review the root certificate on the device?
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Use Internalz Pro to navigate to and open:
/etc/ssl/certs/trustedcerts/PalmWebOS.pem
Or use WOSQI to pull a copy from that location...

Didn't receive the update notification on both my Pre+ and my Pre3 (o2 germany), so I had to install the update manually via "HP Catalog Update" App in the App Catalog.
On my Touchpad, when I try to install "HP Catalog Update", I get an error...
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Manually check your certificate (as shown above). Some are reporting that they have the new cert even after the fail message...

I use an unlocked UK Pre3 which recently received the update. I also have a spare AT&T Pre3 activated only once previously to network unlock. Due to the silly Palm/HP single-profile-device policy and some minor application incompatibilities, when I activated the AT&T Pre3 using the same webOS profile and then returned to the UK model, some apps were screwed etc. and I had to re-setup a few. Although not a major headache, I assume the same would happen if I reactivate the AT&T Pre3 to get the certificate update.
Is there a better way?
Can my AT&T model get the update from the HP server without it trying to restore the config from my UK model?
If not, on reactivating my UK model, can I use Save/Restore to revert with ease and let it re-upload that config to the HP servers?
Any other suggestions? I would appreciate your advice.
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Either use the Bypass Activation method and get the update via App Catalog after some further manipulations under Impostah... http://www.webosnation.com/bypass-activation-webos-2-x
-OR-
Just create/use a second email account to use as a backup profile for your spare Pre 3.
Of the two, a second profile is by far the easiest and best method for a backup. If it moves up to being your daily driver, you can always switch it over to your primary profile.

HP TouchPad Root Certificate fix for WebOS cloud services
Hey thanks for putting together the thread. I made a little video to help users become aware of the problem and fix it. We may also need a thread about this in the TouchPad General section so more people will hear about it.
HP TouchPad Root Certificate fix for WebOS cloud services
HP TouchPad Root Certificate fix for WebOS cloud services(Important)
The Problem:
A vital "root certificate" on webOS devices is due to expire on July 23, 2013. This certificate gives Touchpad users access to HPs cloud services for the App catalogue and Backing up the device. When the "root certificate" expires users will no longer have access to the App catalogue and backed up data. Furthermore HPs online WebOS support is expected to disappear altogether by the end of the year. So it’s recommended to backup your personal data and essential Touchpad software to your PC now.
Read the full WebOS Survival Kit Guide Here:
The solution:
Getting a free App catalog update will fix the "root certificate" problem as long as you downloaded it before July,23,2013. If you are hearing about this after July,23,2013, then you will need to first set the date to June,23,2013. To do this boot into WebOS and go to settings/Date & Time, toggle off the "Network Time". Now adjust the date accordingly and download the Update, once complete comeback and Toggle on the "Network Time" button back to on.
To get the update in WebOS go to Downloads/HP App Catalog. Open the app Catalog and select the categories tab at the bottom. Next click on the “new” tab at the top and Scroll down the page till you see “App Catalog Update”. Now install the update and your Touchpad support will continue to work in a post WebOS world.
Note*This update requires webOS 2.1+ to be installed. Devices with older versions will need to run the WebOS Doctor first, the latest version is 3.0.5.
Additional threads and info:
HP to issue root certificate fix, ensure continued access to webOS cloud services
The webOS Survival Kit: everything you need to know should webOS doomsday come
Read the full WebOS Survival Kit Guide Here:
Recommended downloads:
webOS Quick Installer
WebOS doctor

Special Thanks to wMarck90 for finding this link...
Here is the official HP help page for updating your critical Root Certificate.
https://developer.palm.com/support/applicationupdate

Remember: if it seems like it failed, this might be a false negative which has been happening to many users.
Don't Panic. Just verify the certificate.
If you have the Internalz Pro file manager (http://forums.webosnation.com/canuck-coding/256518-internalz-pro-v1-5-0-a.html) you can use it to navigate to the certificate and open it to read the expiry date...
If you have WOSQI - a.k.a. webOS Quick Install - (http://forums.webosnation.com/canuck-coding/274461-webos-quick-install-v4-5-0-a.html) you can use it to pull a copy of the certificate to your computer for examination...
Here (again) is the relevant location to navigate to/pull from. /etc/ssl/certs/trustedcerts/PalmWebOS.pem
Your New Certificate should look like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
If your certificate did not update, go to the HP help page and follow the instructions again.
https://developer.palm.com/support/applicationupdate

I'm having a heck of a time getting this done, hopefully someone can help me out here. I have tried running the install from HP App Catalog but it fails. When I try browsing to the cert location with Internalz Pro I don't even have the directory that I need to look in. I get as far as \etc and that's it. There is no ssl directory in there.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
*UPDATE*
I got it! Apparently the date you set the Touchpad to makes a difference. I figured anything before the end date would work so I just clicked the year and set it to 2012. The update just kept failing, it wouldn't even download. I kept looking around for a fix and I found the official HP document and it recommends setting the date to 7/1/13. I did that and the update from the app store worked. Go figure.
This still doesn't explain why I can't find the directory with the certificate file but the updated succeeded so that's all I care about.

EDIT: Never mind. After 3 reboots, it took. Thanks for the info, guys.

I had a hell of a time trying to fix this problem. i ended up fixing it by connecting with wosqi in the command line, copied the package form /media/internal/downloads/ pulled it from the phone and installed it with wosqi.

I get "Install Failed" every single time I try this. Multiple reboots, erasing data, nothing helps. Change date, download app catalog, update failed. I've tried different dates too. Has anyone had this problem and found a fix?

horn34 said:
I get "Install Failed" every single time I try this. Multiple reboots, erasing data, nothing helps. Change date, download app catalog, update failed. I've tried different dates too. Has anyone had this problem and found a fix?
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You didn't mention turning off network time before rolling back the date???
Have you tried manually verifying the certificate? Many users are getting a false "Fail" message...
If you have the Internalz Pro file manager (http://forums.webosnation.com/canuck-coding/256518-internalz-pro-v1-5-0-a.html) you can use it to navigate to the certificate and open it to read the expiry date...
If you have WOSQI - a.k.a. webOS Quick Install - (http://forums.webosnation.com/canuck-coding/274461-webos-quick-install-v4-5-0-a.html) you can use it to pull a copy of the certificate to your computer for examination...
Here is the relevant location to navigate to/pull from. /etc/ssl/certs/trustedcerts/PalmWebOS.pem
Your New Certificate should look like this:
If your certificate did not update, go to the HP help page and follow the instructions again. I believe that setting the date exactly to July 1st 2013 is critical due to reports on other threads. That specific date might be a trigger to HP servers. Another user reported that after changing the date to July 1st, 2013 he turned network time back on and that allowed a successful update (TouchPad).
https://developer.palm.com/support/applicationupdate

Everything on the HTC 8XT Obtained in 3 days...

Okay, I picked one of these meh HTC 8XT units up from Sprint. I've done some coverage for this at the general Diagnostic dial codes page, but I've handed them money, to try some stuff once I get it developer unlocked... have to return it before Wednesday at 6PM EST (18:00 -500Z) to waive the $35 restocking fee. After that I still have 14 days from Monday when this post originally was made, but I'll probably need donations to keep it a bit longer. I'm hoping some of this will apply to the HTC 8X and 8S, but there aren't any guarantees.
I first tested these dial codes without any updates, so this may change very soon.
It seems there are THREE apps that have been mapped to the dialer menu: CSDiag, DiagnosticTool_Sprint, and HFA
##DIAG# launches HTC Function Test (CSDiag 1.01.01g)
##PST# launches Service Tools (DiagnosticTool_Sprint)
##DATA# launches Service Tools as well...
##786# does too....
##522# launches then crashes....
##72786# launches Service tools.
##6343# launches DiagnosticTool (the same page that gets launched from the DiagnosticTool tile)
##33284# launches EmbeddedTool (Diag and FieldTrial)
##611 launches, but prompts a search for an app in the store, but no results. When no is pressed, it just shows a sample page.
##737425# launches the DiagnosticTool again...
##43424# the same happens as above...
##873283# launches the prl (what Sprint calls Network Profile) update procedure. (app is called HFA)
##MFG# launches EmbeddedTool (DiagnosticTool_Sprint)
Both apps are installed to the app list.
I'll just start with some pictures to start....
EDIT: All of the accessible diagnostic pages were saved in a zip, due to the vast number of screenshots.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Any hints on what to do next?
I've got some drivers to list too.
Normal (MTP Mode)
USB\VID_0BB4&PID_F0CA&REV_0100&MI_00 - Windows Phone
USB\VID_0BB4&PID_F0CA&REV_0100&MI_01 - HTCPO881
##MFG# -> Diag -> DM Mode
USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0BFF&REV_0100&MI_00
USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0BFF&REV_0100&MI_01
USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0BFF&REV_0100&MI_02
USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0BFF&REV_0100&MI_03
(All DM Mode Drivers are unrecognized, but they will take the generic WinUSB driver when manually "updating" the drivers)
Disassembly video!
CODENAME:
HTC Tiara

Power+VolDown+CameraFull=flashing mode
USB\VID_0BB4&PID_00CE&REV_0000
Windows 8 just installed Windows Mobile Device Manager and the HTC USB SYNC mode driver!
Power+VolUP apparently is Qualcomm MSM mode.
USB\VID_045E&PID_062A&REV_0000
No driver is getting installed.
Photos are on the way...once I can strip the EXIF data off if it.

List of apps that shipped with this phone.
HTC Converter
HTC Flashlight
HTC
HTC Burst
HTC Camera
Make More Space
Photo Enhancer
Check out "DiagnosticTool_Sprint" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=e69a2877-59b8-43ed-898d-554fbc4b8b2b
Check out "activate your device" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=c7095f7f-263f-408c-afab-eccdb03ef4c6
Check out "attentive phone" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=59fba4ce-c8d6-df11-a844-00237de2db9e
Check out "Beats Audio" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=54b4b23e-c2cd-4433-9c34-17a4105d1679
Check out "hearing aids" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=39a21410-f59b-43b0-826e-356c211d4fa8
Check out "HTC Fetch" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=d762309e-ef1e-4967-9025-86bed588fa16
Check out "privacy alert" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=276bcc31-4365-45cf-ba0d-6199d288a688
Check out "Sprint Music Plus" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=8b30dccf-6fd1-482f-ae0a-b76b98978095
Check out "Sprint TV and Movies" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=ce3b4564-8555-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
Check out "Visual Voicemail" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=ee89621f-ffc6-4701-9bce-c0ffa0661861
Check out "Scout" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=d9deb87b-7c01-469c-abeb-416614fb6742
List of apps that have updates, but need to be manually triggered:
Sprint TV+Movies
DiagnosticTool_Sprint
HTC Fetch
Sprint Music Plus
Visual Voicemail
activate your device

We will probably need the XAPs. Can you install the standard-capabilities version of the webserver and go check the Windows folder and its subfolders for .XAP files? If you can't find any, we will probably need a ROM dump (do we have one already?)

GoodDayToDie said:
We will probably need the XAPs. Can you install the standard-capabilities version of the webserver and go check the Windows folder and its subfolders for .XAP files? If you can't find any, we will probably need a ROM dump (do we have one already?)
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That's probably going to be the first thing I'll try. It'd be convenient if someone could reversion your webserver to generate a txt file that is similar to 'more' output or something similar to that; show all the files that are available from the directory that also shows the sub directories simultaneously, e.g. File tree. My command/dos skills are a tad rusty, so I'm not sure if I'm thinking if its either more or dir.

Hello there sneaky little files...
Code:
<Setting Name="841.05.06_0_PartnerImmediateDialStrings" Value="##634#;##778#;##786#;##3424#;##3282#;##522#;##72786#;##6343#;##33284#;##611#;##737425#;##43424#;##873283#" />
<Setting Name="841.05.07_0_PartnerNonImmediateDialStrings" Value="##634;##778;##786;##3424;##3282;##522;##72786;##6343;##33284;##611;##737425;##43424;##873283" />
<Setting Name="841.05.08_0_PartnerAppProvisioningFilePath" Value="C:\Programs\CommonFiles\Provisioning\OEM\DiagnosticTool_Sprint_01.provxml" />

GoodDayToDie said:
We will probably need the XAPs. Can you install the standard-capabilities version of the webserver and go check the Windows folder and its subfolders for .XAP files? If you can't find any, we will probably need a ROM dump (do we have one already?)
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That's a no for both. I couldn't find any xaps anywhere, and couldn't find anything worth looking at in the 2 hours I had spent looking.

moved to post 3

thals1992 said:
That's a no for both. I couldn't find any xaps anywhere, and couldn't find anything worth looking at in the 2 hours I had spent looking.
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thals1992 said:
Hello there sneaky little files...
Code:
<Setting Name="841.05.06_0_PartnerImmediateDialStrings" Value="##634#;##778#;##786#;##3424#;##3282#;##522#;##72786#;##6343#;##33284#;##611#;##737425#;##43424#;##873283#" />
<Setting Name="841.05.07_0_PartnerNonImmediateDialStrings" Value="##634;##778;##786;##3424;##3282;##522;##72786;##6343;##33284;##611;##737425;##43424;##873283" />
<Setting Name="841.05.08_0_PartnerAppProvisioningFilePath" Value="C:\Programs\CommonFiles\Provisioning\OEM\DiagnosticTool_Sprint_01.provxml" />
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if you want I can upload HTC 8x xaps.
I download them from a thread in xda but I don't remember where was it !
if You want please reply to this post to upload them for you

Sure, go ahead and attach them to your post. I just sat back down to work on it again.

thals1992 said:
Hello there sneaky little files...
Code:
<Setting Name="841.05.06_0_PartnerImmediateDialStrings" Value="##634#;##778#;##786#;##3424#;##3282#;##522#;##72786#;##6343#;##33284#;##611#;##737425#;##43424#;##873283#" />
<Setting Name="841.05.07_0_PartnerNonImmediateDialStrings" Value="##634;##778;##786;##3424;##3282;##522;##72786;##6343;##33284;##611;##737425;##43424;##873283" />
<Setting Name="841.05.08_0_PartnerAppProvisioningFilePath" Value="C:\Programs\CommonFiles\Provisioning\OEM\DiagnosticTool_Sprint_01.provxml" />
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Code:
C:\Programs\CommonFiles\Provisioning\OEM\DiagnosticTool_Sprint_01.provxml
Download this file. It contains path to XAP.

OK I'm going to go to upload xap files in 7 parts !!!
maybe you know i'm from iran and iran internet is most likely a ****
Part 1:
http://d-h.st/TzA
Part 2:
http://d-h.st/KnR
Part 3:
http://d-h.st/EdQ
Part 4:
http://d-h.st/SQO
Part 5:
http://d-h.st/Zvz
-------------------------------------
Final Edit :
Part 6:
http://d-h.st/N3t
Part 7:
http://d-h.st/Fbg

-W_O_L_F- said:
Code:
C:\Programs\CommonFiles\Provisioning\OEM\DiagnosticTool_Sprint_01.provxml
Download this file. It contains path to XAP.
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can access that with the Webserver. The second biggest challenge with this is that it doesn't have a rom for it yet..... But I have some app-ids that make it a little more helpful. I've got a complete list to post soon, which will be forwarded to whomever made the SysApp Updater.

thals1992 said:
Unfortunately, I don't think I can access that with the Webserver. The second biggest challenge with this is that it doesn't have a rom for it yet..... But I have some app-ids that make it a little more helpful. I've got a complete list to post soon, which will be forwarded to whomever made the SysApp Updater.
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I updated my post and put Part 6 and 7 .
excuse me for my low speed net.
for Bold part of quote. do you mean you can't find official htc rom ?
check this two links :
http://www.fshare.vn/file/JBGVWXGXU4/
http://www.fshare.vn/file/TEWJCLCVT8/
I think these links are for HTC 8x but I think there's no difference between wp8 nbh files.
I will search for 8XT and 8S Roms for you and I will provide links even I find any link .

Pretty much... There hasn't been a HTC WP8 rom that's been leaked for US models. I know in the HTC 8X forum there are two roms available, but they both were European roms that were leaked. I have no clue about the HTC 8S, but bing doesn't come up with any results on the 8XT.
EDIT: looks like the ones that @ngame had linked to are asian and european roms
I'm sure HTC still uses the same format nbh that they have been using with their other WP8 devices.

thals1992 said:
Pretty much... There hasn't been a HTC WP8 rom that's been leaked for US models. I know in the HTC 8X forum there are two roms available, but they both were European roms that were leaked. I have no clue about the HTC 8S, but bing doesn't come up with any results on the 8XT.
EDIT: looks like the ones that @ngame had linked to are asian and european roms
I'm sure HTC still uses the same format nbh that they have been using with their other WP8 devices.
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@thals1992
I think the best work is download this leaked nbh and try to extract it.
maybe we can get more files . I'm not sure these xaps are full package of them or not .
These files are provided from a topic who said can unlock the htc 8x bootloader and get a Super CID and he take some screenshots that shows he can directly access to system files ! maybe he didn't find all xaps but if we can extract one rom we can access to all files and maybe can find a solution to cook unofficial roms at least like Samsung Ativ S (that it only Interop Unlock your phone)
Regards .

Updating OP with disassembly video!
EDIT: added the alternative name to the OP as well.
Insert any four letter curse word here.....
I have to go to work tonght, so I'll only have ~ 6 hours to work on it tommorrow, and that's if I don't have any time to mess with it tonight after work.
I'm hoping someone will see this and possibly donate a bit of money for this.

I have already decompiled the dlls from the 8x XAPs...most of them have the capabilities we need...and there are some interesting XAML pages in there...but I couldn't test it because I don't have a HTC
Sent from my RM-821_eu_euro2_248 using Tapatalk

I have a TMO branded 8x. (currently in for service). The only files I ever could get to load via dial codes is CSDDiag. I do have a dump of the xaps from an engineering 8x I found on the DFT forums. It is most definitely the old version of it. I tried every single AppID I could find in there, but nothing exciting launched...only CSDDiag and the standard pre-installed xaps worked.
I have been waiting patiently for someone to see if they can download a copy of CSDDiag onto their ativ S via the Microsoft store Proxy trick (Unlike the Samsung xap, the HTC one is listed as published, and you can click the "install" link if you go directly to it in the Windows store).
I will try and install the sprint tool into my 8x and see if it lets me do anything special. (when I get it back).

Habib.Mouissat said:
I have already decompiled the dlls from the 8x XAPs...most of them have the capabilities we need...and there are some interesting XAML pages in there...but I couldn't test it because I don't have a HTC
Sent from my RM-821_eu_euro2_248 using Tapatalk
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I can test on my 8S everything just say.
compu829 said:
I have a TMO branded 8x. (currently in for service). The only files I ever could get to load via dial codes is CSDDiag. I do have a dump of the xaps from an engineering 8x I found on the DFT forums. It is most definitely the old version of it. I tried every single AppID I could find in there, but nothing exciting launched...only CSDDiag and the standard pre-installed xaps worked.
I have been waiting patiently for someone to see if they can download a copy of CSDDiag onto their ativ S via the Microsoft store Proxy trick (Unlike the Samsung xap, the HTC one is listed as published, and you can click the "install" link if you go directly to it in the Windows store).
I will try and install the sprint tool into my 8x and see if it lets me do anything special. (when I get it back).
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I tried all codes on my 8S and only show CSDDiag like you said. I already installed sprint tool on my 8S by windows phone store and only got window with MEID(hex), MEID(dex), imei, sim id and version. Nothing special.

[Guide] How to set up fastboot/adb to be used in system wide command prompt Windows

I see a lot of tools for installing fastboot/adb easily on your PC but I havent found any updated how-to's that show you how to install it manually using Google newest fastboot/adb binary they release separately from the SDK tools. So i wanted to fix that! We will be adding their locations as Environmental paths in cmd. This all will be shown on Windows 10
To start off, download the fastboot/adb bianarys from the xda article below (writen by Mishaal Rahman back in January)
XDA Article with fastboot links
- Extract the fastboot/adb binary fold "platform-tools" to a out of the way folder (I recommend a folder named "Android" in the root of the C drive like so C:\Android\)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
- Goto Control Panel> System and Security > System
- Under "Computer name, domain, and workgroup settings" click "Change settings"
- From this new window go to the "Advanced" tab then at the bottom click "Environment Variables"
- In the new window under the "System Variables" section, double click "Path"
- In this window click "New" and put in the location of your platform-tools folder we extracted and put aside earlier
- (Example: Mine looks like C:\Android\platform-tools)
- Press enter and it should be the newest entry at the bottom.
- Click okay and REBOOT YOUR PC
- Now you have to latest fastboot/adb binary installed system wide!
Test this by just pressing the windows key and type cmd. in the command line type "fastboot" This should return you with all the other available fastboot commands.
Feel free to ask any questions!

thanks , thats very helpful

I've installed everthing(whole sdk, tools, and all) on Linux. Is this article to be updated on that? I got tired of all the extra work that windows requires for setup, and I do everything thru Ubuntu now.

reggjoo said:
I've installed everthing(whole sdk, tools, and all) on Linux. Is this article to be updated on that? I got tired of all the extra work that windows requires for setup, and I do everything thru Ubuntu now.
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I'm not sure what you're asking

eqbirvin said:
I'm not sure what you're asking
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I'm asking can you put in instructions for Linux setup for adb+fastboot, since a lot of people on xda use Linux, instead of Windows.

Thanks its working fine in my windows.

Hi,
Kind of a shameless plug here (mods, please remove my post if it truly is nothing but a shameless plug), but I actually made a video guide following almost the same steps mentioned in OP.
Here's the video:
Feel free (dear OP) to put this up on your first post as well, if you'd like to
Good luck with setting them up!

reggjoo said:
I'm asking can you put in instructions for Linux setup for adb+fastboot, since a lot of people on xda use Linux, instead of Windows.
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websearch should suffice for an XDAer (e.g. to stuff like https://wiki.lineageos.org/adb_fastboot_guide.html#on-linux ), esp for choice since can be distro-dependent (could be "sudo apt-get install android-sdk-platform-tools" on Ubuntu & derivatives). HTH

Good work.
Thank you.

That is alot of work when just dropping the needed files in the main Windows directory will do the same thing without the instability of variables.

zelendel said:
That is alot of work when just dropping the needed files in the main Windows directory will do the same thing without the instability of variables.
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There is a risk that any files placed into the main Windows directory will be lost when Windows is upgraded, because the way a Windows 10 upgrade works these days is to effectively create a new Windows installation. The previous main Windows directory is renamed 'Windows.old' before being deleted automatically after 30 days.
So far, there have been 3 new upgrade versions of Windows 10 since the RTM was launched in July 2015 (1507):
November 2015 (1511)
July 2016 (1607)
March 2017 (1703)

m00head said:
There is a risk that any files placed into the main Windows directory will be lost when Windows is upgraded, because the way a Windows 10 upgrade works these days is to effectively create a new Windows installation. The previous main Windows directory is renamed 'Windows.old' before being deleted automatically after 30 days.
So far, there have been 3 new upgrade versions of Windows 10 since the RTM was launched in July 2015 (1507):
November 2015 (1511)
July 2016 (1607)
March 2017 (1703)
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Ahhh yes I forgot about that as windows 10 isn't used anywhere I use a pc that has windows on it.
Another reason to use Linux when dealing with Android.

zelendel said:
That is alot of work when just dropping the needed files in the main Windows directory will do the same thing without the instability of variables.
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Its not too much work i just wrote every step i could out for simplicity sake.

eqbirvin said:
Its not too much work i just wrote every step i could out for simplicity sake.
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Your instructions were as they should have been. Detailed. If you so it this way, this is the way it should be done.
I just never recommend messing with the variables in a windows system. They can be temperamental at best. I also forgot about the windows 10 update setup (even though having to recopy the dlls to the windows directory a few times a year is not to bad if you think about it.)

zelendel said:
Your instructions were as they should have been. Detailed. If you so it this way, this is the way it should be done.
I just never recommend messing with the variables in a windows system. They can be temperamental at best. I also forgot about the windows 10 update setup (even though having to recopy the dlls to the windows directory a few times a year is not to bad if you think about it.)
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That's understandable!
I haven't had to many issues as long as I maintain the Android work space.
It's definitely not that hard only a few times a year. But I'm on the technical builds so the updates to windows 10 roll in almost weekly right now.
Come to think of it it might not be bad to add your point and method to the OP

if i type fastboot i get this message
C:\Users\samuel>fastboot
'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
what should i do?

[email protected] said:
if i type fastboot i get this message
C:\Users\samuel>fastboot
'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
what should i do?
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Does that happen after you have done the installation? Make sure you reboot afterward

eqbirvin said:
- Under "Computer name, domain, and workgroup settings" click "Change settings"
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- From this new window go to the "Advanced" tab then at the bottom click "Environment Variables"
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There is a quicker way to get straight to the "Advanced" tab on the "System Properties" dialog - simply choose "Advanced system settings" in the left hand column of the previous screen (System) instead of "Change settings".
Also, you can quickly get to the previous screen (System) without going via Control Panel, by pressing Windows key + [Pause/Break] keys together.

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zelendel said:
That is alot of work when just dropping the needed files in the main Windows directory will do the same thing without the instability of variables.
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What instability?