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How often do you recharge your Hero?

hi,
I would like to know how often you recharge your Hero?
With moderate to low usage I'm recharging every day and I'm thinking that autonomie on my Hero is really very bad. Before I used Polaris and I had to recharge every 2 or 3 days.
I'm thinking that maybe my phone have manufacture default. On official web page they say that autonomy on standby is 440 hours, its like 15 days, mine keeps barely 1 day, wtf!!!
Even during night when I don't use it all and put on plane mode battery loses 20%.
whitealien

i recharge everyday with mild usage. gaming - usually keep it plugged in.

with moderate usage i recharge my GSM Hero every 2-3 days. by moderate i mean, like 1h Wifi, 2h mp3, 0.5h phone usage, 1.5h online activity over 3G.
Thats about it. And even if i multiply the usage above by two, it will last two days.
During flightmode inthe night, it loses about 5-10%.
so it seems something is sucking really bad on your battery!
Cheers,
Chaos42

I would say I charge mine every 2-3 days. I'm a relatively low user but wifi is on all of the time and I use it for browsing a bit in the evenings when I don't have my PC turned on. GPS, mobile web and bluetooth is off for the most part.
My wife has the same phone and her battery life is a little shorter than mine but she has the mobile web on and uses hers a bit more then me so I would guess around 1.5-2 days.
My battery is rated at 1350mAh which I think is standard.

I have to charge it every day.
Unplug it from charger at 0700 and by 2200 it has less than 10% battery.
But I have WiFi on for over twelve hours a day, mobile web on and quite a few things updating online!

Background apps may be draining your battery
Hi whitealian,
Check the application list to see which applications are running in the background. One of them may be draining your power.
You can check the task list using Estrongs File Explorer (start the app, then menu->Task Manager). There are plenty of other task managers, of course...
In my case, I think it was ShopSavvy that was running in the BG. Once I removed it the battery performance was much better. See this post.
You can also use one of the apps that turn on/off wifi based on location. A quick market search finds "Y5 - Battery Saver". Haven't tried it myself yet!
Good luck!

mobile.dev said:
Hi whitealian,
Check the application list to see which applications are running in the background. One of them may be draining your power.
You can check the task list using Estrongs File Explorer (start the app, then menu->Task Manager). There are plenty of other task managers, of course...
In my case, I think it was ShopSavvy that was running in the BG. Once I removed it the battery performance was much better. See this post.
You can also use one of the apps that turn on/off wifi based on location. A quick market search finds "Y5 - Battery Saver". Haven't tried it myself yet!
Good luck!
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Thanks for advice. I was not using ShopSavvy, but I had doubts that either I got faulty device or some app is draining battery.
I called customer service and they advice me to put phone in safe mode and test it for awhile. It extended a little my battery life, but still recharge every day. Next step was to reset to factory default. This is what I did yesterday and now I'm at the end of second day since last charge and I still have 40% left, what seems to be normal, but still a little to early to judge that everything is good.
I still don't know from where battery drain was coming. Probably from some app.
I'm putting my bet on NewsRob - google feed reader. It was the only app that was using network in background (apart from mail and tweeter sync).

too often. mostly once a day.
but when i'm at home im ususally plugging the as adaptor in either way, because i'm afraid to have to little battery left if i leave the house without a 100% battery level. (this can happen fast if you sync a lot of rss feeds, surf the net, have an exchange server connection and gmail push and so on...)
They really need to make better batteries. They should last 2-3 days on full force usage.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
They really need to make better batteries. They should last 2-3 days on full force usage.
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I wish it could

I think once every 2 days, but at night I have the ''phonestuff'' turned of using it as an alarm clock only. I do use the mobile internet connection all day. Tried once without that and got almost 4 days out of one charge.
I agree they have to make better battery's but I don't think the hero's that bad.
I had a diamond wich I had to charge almost twice a day when data was on...
So for me the hero's a big improvement.

I too get 2 to 3 days use out of a charge. Got rid of standard HTC Twitter client and replaced with Twidroid Pro. Only have Gmail push synchronization on.

I am pretty sure you are aware if the standard HTC SMS app battery drain issue?
Someone pointed out that HTCs SMS app constantly drains the battery, because it stopps the phone from entering standby mode. You can replace it by going into Applications menu, open "Messages", "Clear defaults" and install HandCent. As soon as a new SMS comes in, it will ask you which app you want to handle SMS messages. Choose HandCent, make it default and you are set.
Gave me a huge battery performance boost.

every day. that is the only bad issue of my hero.

I charge mine daily when I go to bed as it's usually giving me the 15% warning about 24hrs after I last charged it.
The joys of smartphones

At least once a day.
I've got a desk stand so it sit's in that for a constant juicing up, when im in the car I put it on to charge.. At work its on USB charge.. Basically I just juice it whenever I can..
I dont think theres anything wrong with yours.. they just have bad battery life.
If you think thats bad try the fossil palm powered watches.. i have to take it off every couple of hours to charge it!

Too often. Exchange, gmail, 1 additional pop3 inbox, facebook every 2hrs, twitter every 2hrs is enough for my phone to barelly hold a charge for a day. But when actually using the phone (music, calling), it doesn't hold even a day.

klaus27 said:
I am pretty sure you are aware if the standard HTC SMS app battery drain issue?
Someone pointed out that HTCs SMS app constantly drains the battery, because it stopps the phone from entering standby mode. You can replace it by going into Applications menu, open "Messages", "Clear defaults" and install HandCent. As soon as a new SMS comes in, it will ask you which app you want to handle SMS messages. Choose HandCent, make it default and you are set.
Gave me a huge battery performance boost.
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Tried it. I installed Handcent, but when I want to want to make it default, the button is greyed out. What am I doing wrong?

klaus27 said:
I am pretty sure you are aware if the standard HTC SMS app battery drain issue?
Someone pointed out that HTCs SMS app constantly drains the battery, because it stopps the phone from entering standby mode. You can replace it by going into Applications menu, open "Messages", "Clear defaults" and install HandCent. As soon as a new SMS comes in, it will ask you which app you want to handle SMS messages. Choose HandCent, make it default and you are set.
Gave me a huge battery performance boost.
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That's a US only thing though, right? The European ones don't suffer with that issue AFAIK.
...Which I'm glad about as I sometimes have to charge my hero twice a day. Data is on all the time when I'm out and I'm a pretty heavy user of it. In terms of calls perhaps an hour a day, and not a huge number of texts (more than ten would be unusual). I do use the phone to listen to music quite often too.
I think the apps in the background thing is what needs to be checked. I use a news widget and Facebook and Weather and a travel one which I think adds up to a lot of refreshes. I'm thinking about making a Sense Profile (or whatever it's called) that has nothing on the homescreens at all for times when I might want to be a bit more frugal with battery life.
I do think it's somewhat ridiculous that the phone is capable of doing so many things but that if you have it do them it withers and dies. I would've thought the way to calculate battery life would be to have the phone doing the things that people will want to do with it and work from there. It seems that battery life is calculated by turning the phone into as dormant a state as possible and then tip toeing around it trying not to disturb it.
I get by though.

tatwamasi said:
That's a US only thing though, right? The European ones don't suffer with that issue AFAIK.
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Well, I cannot confirm that. I have a European one and mine drained the battery. I searched the net and with this trick I came from ~1 day to over 2 days with moderate usage and push enabled all the time.
tombond said:
Tried it. I installed Handcent, but when I want to want to make it default, the button is greyed out. What am I doing wrong?
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Well, have you cleared the default for message application?
You probably want to google it or just read over this posts:
http://www.phonenews.com/improving-sprint-htc-hero-battery-life-9720/
My battery went even better once I configured Locale to go into airplane mode during night time and stopping sync services during work time. I don't need push when I am at work (timescal set, no GPS), because there I have all my mailboxes open and directly connected.

Some more tipps to improve battery performance.
Disable 3G - Set to "only 2G" in mobile network settings
Set display timeout to 30s or lower
Remove as many widgets from your homescreens as possible (I only have calendar)
use task killer app to check which apps are still running in the background and try to tweak their settings to not autoload or don't notify you on updates - and of course kill them
disable screen animations
uncheck WLAN for location checking
don't check your mailboxes too regular
disable vibration totally. disable haptic feedback for the keyboard as well

Expelling the Evo poor battery life myth!

Today I decided to do a real world test of the Evo's battery life. I used my phone the way I would normally use it on an other day. As for the phone itself, I am running the rom from the OTA update. The only changes that have been made is that I am using unrevoked root method so that I can use the Overclock Widget (marketplace) to turn the processor freq down to 245000 when the screen is off. I also use Advanced Task Killer to turn off apps that I am not using. I had bluetooth and gps turned on throughout the entirety of this test, wifi was on for about 3.5 hours. During this test I played a game for a short period of time, did some light web browsing, and had several phone conversations that totalled a little more than 2 hours. With doing all this, my battery lasted for a little more than 11 hours. That being said, under normal use the Evo should definitely last you throughout a full day.

Thanks for the info. I got my Evo yesterday and haven't been able to put it to through extreme testing yet

No problem. just kind of got tired of hearing how poor the battery life was. Even before using the overclock widget I was still getting decent battery life, but the overclock widget just put it over the top. To add to that, I don't normally talk for 2 hrs. on my phone during a normal day, so really a lot of that 29% battery drain from phone use wouldn't be there. The only thing I didn't use today was 4g (which I don't normally use unless I'm on the phone and need to use data).

Not sure what this proves or "dispells". When people (myself included until making some friendstream changes) are getting 6 hours out of a charge with light use, that is a real problem. You must not have friendstream syncing...if you did and did everything you just wrote about, your phone would be dead in 3 hours tops. Thanks for the info., but once again, people are havnig real issues with the battery...it's not made up.

admorris said:
Not sure what this proves or "dispells". When people (myself included until making some friendstream changes) are getting 6 hours out of a charge with light use, that is a real problem. You must not have friendstream syncing...if you did and did everything you just wrote about, your phone would be dead in 3 hours tops. Thanks for the info., but once again, people are havnig real issues with the battery...it's not made up.
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If you are experiencing poor battery life then it is most likely attributed to not managing your apps properly (friendstream included). For example, without advanced task killer you will get a drastically different amount of battery life than if you have it. Then add to that, the way you configure advanced task killer can add a large amount of battery life compared to having advanced task killer without it being configured properly. Even with friendstream running you should still be able to get a decent amount of battery life (I am aware that it does use more juice), try having your facebook sync less often.

mysterioustko said:
If you are experiencing poor battery life then it is most likely attributed to not managing your apps properly (friendstream included). For example, without advanced task killer you will get a drastically different amount of battery life than if you have it. Then add to that, the way you configure advanced task killer can add a large amount of battery life compared to having advanced task killer without it being configured properly. Even with friendstream running you should still be able to get a decent amount of battery life (I am aware that it does use more juice), try having your facebook sync less often.
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I totally agree I've been using my evo and been fine, I only really have it connected to power when I have it tethering. Besides that it lasts me not all day but while I'm at work (which is the most important part) I get a good 9-10 hours out of it before I really need to charge. It should also be noted that I use locale to switch BT and wifi off when I'm not in an area to take advantage of them.

I think some people have bad batterys/evo's, it's not just a matter of running the right programs or killing tasks

mrono said:
I think some people have bad batterys/evo's, it's not just a matter of running the right programs or killing tasks
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While that is possible I think the majority of the problem rests with the user's mismanagement of apps. I have seen way to many posts from people declaring the battery life to be so horrible, only to make a few changes and then turn around and say how much better it got. If that person had a bad battery then the battery would still have been bad, it wouldn't just start being good. That said, it is very possible that there are people with bad batteries. I just think that most of the people have good batteries and bad phone management.

I did pretty much the same thing. I have the O/C widget to set the frequency to 245000 when the screen is off and also have Advance Task Manager configured to close apps I'm not using. Helps out a lot and I usually get around 12~14 hours on a charge.

mysterioustko said:
If you are experiencing poor battery life then it is most likely attributed to not managing your apps properly (friendstream included). For example, without advanced task killer you will get a drastically different amount of battery life than if you have it. Then add to that, the way you configure advanced task killer can add a large amount of battery life compared to having advanced task killer without it being configured properly. Even with friendstream running you should still be able to get a decent amount of battery life (I am aware that it does use more juice), try having your facebook sync less often.
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While I completely understand what you are saying, I can't really agree that b/c someone is not getting a full day out of their phone it is b/c of poor app management. While deleting facebook for sense, then reinstalling with only contacts synced fixed everything for me, the fact that you have to go through the phone with a fine tooth comb to get it to run more than 6 hours at a time is pretty silly. While doing that stuff is fine for me and most on this forum, it will undoubtedly turn a lot of non-techie people off from this phone...especially with Sprint doing their new 30 day full refund policy.
It's all good though, just plugged my phone in after 19 hours...playing with it most of the day.

I use advanced task killer and turned off sync for apps I dont use. At 65% used pandora (in 4g for about an hour), browsed several sites, made phone calls, text, emailed. All the normal stuff. Took my phone off the charger 15 hours ago.
Prior to using advanced task killer I would be to about 18% right now. So for those saying that task managers kill more battery power my phone seems to do the exact opposite.

rutter9 said:
I use advanced task killer and turned off sync for apps I dont use. At 65% used pandora (in 4g for about an hour), browsed several sites, made phone calls, text, emailed. All the normal stuff. Took my phone off the charger 15 hours ago.
Prior to using advanced task killer I would be to about 18% right now. So for those saying that task managers kill more battery power my phone seems to do the exact opposite.
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Task killers really only help if you have an app that would normally be giving you higher than usual wake time (the calendar comes to mind). At the start of every boot I always make sure to kill everything so only essential apps and those I use are running. I don't use any kind of auto kill.
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It is no longer recommended that a task killer be used. It may result in poor phone performance.

After i rooted with Toasts method, installed OMJ's rom removing all of the sprintware and added the OverClockWidget to tweak the processor, i was able to go a full 32 hours without charging. i had gps and bluetooth on the whole time and wifi on for several hours. i made calls, sent texts, took pictures, basically normal usage.

Just to add to all this. Bad battery isnt just a HTC Evo problem. Go read the forums of almost every android phone released and they all report the same things (in the beginning). Someone that has had a android phone in the past probably hasnt said much about battery. There are so many things you can do to increase battery.
1. manage your apps. Exit them instead of leaving them running (press back button until the app closes, or some apps you can Menu> exit) Pressing home doesnt close the app, it only takes you to the homescreen. Also change the sync times of all your apps/widgets. If you dont use gmail or google calendar, then uncheck the "sync" in Menu>accounts & sync> google. One last thing use a task manager (not recommended by some devs) I use it to end tasks of apps that use data, or ones that i use maybe once a day or once a week, i dont need them cached for quick returning, so i end the task all together. I ignore apps so they dont end that i use very frequently or ones that dont use data or run in the background.
2. Calibrate your battery once like so.. Charge your phone to 100% and then use your phone like normal until its so dead it shuts off by itself. Dont plug it into the computer or wall charger in that time. Then once it shuts off, plug the phone into a wall charger and charge it till its 100% again. After that, plug and play as much as you want.
3. Buy a car charger, usb cord for the comp, and maybe another wall charger. Buy an extra battery or extended battery. Doing the above and adding these to them, youll have a huge increase in battery.
I have an htc hero and i can get well over 12 hours of use by just watching what syncs and what uses data. And i use my phone alot, and wake it up a ton to check for notifications.
I use a friends Evo so im not new to the device and I understand its a different phone.
Stock htc phones come with a lot of stuff preinstalled and widgets. When signing into them with your accounts the sync times are usually pretty high, some like every 15mins. Watch what you are doing with the phone and youll have normal battery life.

i avg 18 -19 hours per charge so im very happy

aaaaah ok now I know who is the idiot Dylan here. Thanks. What a dumbass know-it-all.

I think some people are getting poor battery life because intermittent signal. I know this was the case for me. When I go to a friends house that I barely have signal, the phone constantly tries to find signal or goes into roaming. It would drain the battery fast. When I was in good signal area it seemed to last quite a while. Just saying that it is more than just running apps that cause poor battery.

Also if you will not use the internet turn off the mobile network, put the widget in your screen. You can receive calls but the internet is off.

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I think some people are getting poor battery life because intermittent signal. I know this was the case for me. When I go to a friends house that I barely have signal, the phone constantly tries to find signal or goes into roaming. It would drain the battery fast. When I was in good signal area it seemed to last quite a while. Just saying that it is more than just running apps that cause poor battery.
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You make a very good point. Weak/no signal areas will drain your battery (as with any phone) very quickly due to the phone constantly scanning for signal. Not really much you can due about that other than turning your phone radio off or switching carriers lol. One thing I've read in the Dev forum that may help you is to change your prl to the Alltell/Verizon prl. Some people have reported that this works well in low signal areas.

Answers on battery life.

I've been seeing a lot of posts on crap battery life around here, and I was chasing my tail about some of them as well, following a lot of misinformation even by senior members. I think I have a good handle on it now, and picked up most of these tips from these forums, so I'm not taking credit for these ideas, just collecting them in one place. Some of my suggestions assume you have root and Rom Manager (see the Tips and Tricks sticky thread on how to get them).
1. If your battery drains in less than a day on standby, you probably have a bad flash of the JI6 modem (either from the OTA update or from a ROM). Flash the JI2 modem from here "www dot teamwhiskey dot com/home/downloads". If the flash fixes it, you may try going back to JI6 if you want, and it may stay fixed. I went back to JI2 and didn't bother going back to JI6, but it has worked for others. With JI2 and 3G on I get just over 24 hours in normal usage.
2. The #2 battery drain on standby is 3G. I turned it off (Settings/Wireless/Mobile networks/Network mode/GSM only) and my phone lasted for 40 hours on Edge with light usage (few phone calls, messaging, quite a lot of web surfing, 2 hours of podcasts). Didn't even feel too slow (I get 140kbps on edge). Can anybody suggest a really good widget for turning 3G on/off? I use the 2G-3G OnOff widget by Curvefish. It's not one-click, it's just a shortcut to Mobile Network Settings, but it works. Note that sometimes it takes a while for the data connection to re-establish after you see the 3G or E icon.
2.5. WiFi always on is a huge battery saver! It keeps 3g off. I can easily get 3+ days with light usage on my home wifi. Settings/Wireless and Network/Wifi Settings/Menu/Advanced/Wifi Sleep Policy/Never.
3. Don't need a task killer. I wasted all my time killing tasks trying to chase down my crappy battery usage, but since I fixed my modem and turned off 3G I know that the 3-5% CPU usage at idle does not hurt my battery. Taskiller for me was actually hitting the CPU constantly, lightly but for no reason, so I got pissed and uninstalled it.
4. Install a CPU usage monitor like Usage Timelines. It sits in the notification bar, very easy on the battery, but tells you if you have a rogue app pegging your CPU and draining your battery. These are the only apps you should be worried about killing. Astro File Manager has a task manager that shows CPU usage for each app, so you can kill the rogue one. I shoot for about 5% cpu usage at idle (at 200mhz - at 100mhz it would be a bit higher).
5. The app Autostarts lets you disable any app from starting on boot or other events like connectivity changes. This is not strictly necessary unless you have a lot of crap apps installed on your phone and they like to start themselves and waste CPU time behind your back.
6. If your battery reads less than 100% as soon as you unplug it from the charger fully charged, or your battery meter sits at 100% for a long time after you unplug it, you can recalibrate your battery meter. To recalibrate: 1) charge your battery to full, 2) unplug, 3) reboot into Clockwork Recovery and 4) Wipe battery stats.
7. There is No Such Thing as "battery reconditioning" (for all intents and purposes). The above procedure only RECALIBRATES you battery METER to read on a more linear scale between full and empty. It DOES NOT make your battery last longer, period. Whoever tells you that is a moron. If your battery is dying in 6 hours, doing any amount of calibration will not make it last longer (I've tried).
8. I wouldn't be too worried about undervolting, overclocking, kernel tricks and superawesomefast ROMS. The CPU drain at idle is so minuscule (as long as you don't have rogue apps) that those things make precious little difference. Like I said, the biggest drain is 3G and other radios. Having said that, I run Bionix 1.9 with the JAC kernel. It drained my battery in half a day at idle until I flashed the JI2 modem. With JI2 it suddenly started lasting over 24 hours, and once I turned off 3G, over 40 hours. I like this ROM and see no need to switch, it's very smooth. But you should be able to get similar battery life on a stock Vibrant.
9. I have GPS on, WiFi never sleep, auto-brightness, and a few widgets on like Weather and friend updates. I have no fancy settings, literally just turning off 3G (or wifi on, which is the same) got me 2-3 days. So I wouldn't waste time fooling around with magic settings (other than wifi never sleep), battery saver apps, etc.
10. If your screen is on all the time and you're playing games nonstop, you're draining your battery quicker than any of the things I mentioned above, so you probably don't care. In that case an optimized ROM/kernel is probably your best bet, especially JIT in Froyo. You can probably save on screen brightness as well.
If you guys have any other tips I'd be glad to add them to the list, but I hope this gives you an understanding of where your battery life is going. Basically: bad modem, 3G, or rogue apps.
Also, I hope this will put an end to trolls calling people whiners for complaining about battery life and saying unproductive **** like "you're a whiner" or "the Galaxy S is just a battery hog, live with it". It's not, you don't have to live with it, nobody should have to, here are your solutions.
Good luck.

A few things I do to help with battery life is:
Disable Audible touch tones
Disable Audible selection
Disable Haptic feedback
Disable SD card notifications
Set animations to NO animations
Uninstall media hub if you dont use it
Disable auto brightness adjustment
Disable power saving mode
I disable the last 2 and just swipe the notification bar to adjust brightness. Granted these items really only work when using the phone but I can go about 2 days of normal use without a charge believe it or not.

yeah disabling 3g has always been the best option for people really, really concerned with battery life.
But it's kinda hard to tell people not to use 3g on their brand new 3g capable devices.

You may want to add how to test if you battery is bad. If you use you phone repeatedly while it its plugged in you risk overheating and damaging your battery. Signs that unitas is the case are very quick drain and long (7 hours) charge times. You can easily test and see if your battery its damaged. Remove it from your phone and place on flat surface (e.g. Counter top) try spinning the battery. If it rotates easily and quickly you battery is bulging, this is a sign of damage. Time for a new battery.
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Answer to #2-
Use APNDroid. Comes with a widget.

Thanks to the OP and other contributors in this thread.
I flashed a ROM with the ji6 modem and battery life has been noticeably ****ty since. Example - this morning I unplugged my phone at 7:30 am. 100% charged. It's 10:21 am and my phone is at 75%
In the last 3 hours I browsed the web for 10 minutes while having my coffee and a smoke before heading out to work. Blue tooth was on for my drive, and I've sent 2 text messages. Aside from that my phone has been on stand-by since I unplugged it 3 hours ago.
I'm going to try to flash back to ji2 tonight as the battery usage was definitely better. Will also look into the 3G thing.
Thanks again.

You forgot to mention the two DRM and one downloader services that run resident on JI6.
These were the cause of my reduced battery life after I upgraded. Killing & removing these processes restored my battery life back to normal

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Use APNDroid. Comes with a widget.
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I just tried this - switching 3G off works fine, but switching 3G back on didn't work for me. I had to re-boot to get 3G back so this is a no-go in my case.

I know how to kill the processes for the DRM and downloader but how do I remove them?

OP thank you for putting together the list. But I've never seen the point of doing all this. Its like getting a lamborghini and only driving 40mph because it you don't want to waste gas, whats the point? Either get a second wall charger to charge at work or a car charger. Heck even get a second battery if you are out for a long period of time.

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Its like getting a lamborghini and only driving 40mph because it you don't want to waste gas, whats the point?
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You don't need to disable 3g.
The point of my post is to avoid people wasting their time with tweaks that have little to no effect on battery life. I'm telling people that they're wasting time killing apps and optimizing cpu usage and twiddling their settings when the radio drains most of their battery on standby anyway.
Meaning no matter what changes you make, you can only hope to improve your battery life by a tiny amount, because any other effect is overshadowed by 3G.
Put another way, you will NEVER get battery life much longer than a day if you're on 3g, so you're wasting your energy trying all kinds of tricks.

blink55184 said:
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Use APNDroid. Comes with a widget.
smutek said:
I just tried this - switching 3G off works fine, but switching 3G back on didn't work for me. I had to re-boot to get 3G back so this is a no-go in my case.
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For me the widget did nothing. But it seems like it's not even supposed to turn the 3G radio off, but ALL APN network traffic. Did I miss something? It won't save battery power as long as the 3G radio is on.
I went back to the 2G-3G OnOff widget by Curvefish. It's not one-click, it's just a shortcut to Mobile Network Settings, but it works. Note that sometimes it takes a while for the data connection to re-establish after you see the 3G or E icon.

Back to my Moto Startac
While i understand the idea behind this thread, your conclusion is simple.
If you use the phone as a smartphone, it will eat up your battery no matter what.
I personally go through two batteries and some a day. (they cost about 12 bucks in ebay, and they work just fine)
The price for saving battery is not using the phone, and having a 400 bucks phone just for show off is just silly at least.
If you have a phone like this is to use it. At least you can change the battery not like some other devices......

I understand that task killer is useless, but do any of you use Autokiller (memory manager) ?

That's kind of a redundant question because even if you do not use the app, your phone is still performing the functions. The app just adjusts the settings. But to answer your question, using a memory optimization tool such as AutoKiller is 1000% more efficient than using a Task Killer. I don't think it effects battery much, but works wonders on performance.

There's no 3g-off widget because apparently in Android there's no way to do that through a direct command. I also use the Curvefish widget, and you are absolutely right about turning off 3g to save battery. I normally do so when I'm asleep or if I'm sitting at my desk next to a computer (why do I need fast data on my phone when I have my computer right here?).
The other thing I would recommend is AutoStarts. There are way too many apps that open themselves up at bizarre and inappropriate times. Autostarts is an easy and painless way to see which apps do this and keep them from opening.

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While i understand the idea behind this thread, your conclusion is simple.
If you use the phone as a smartphone, it will eat up your battery no matter what.
I personally go through two batteries and some a day. (they cost about 12 bucks in ebay, and they work just fine)
The price for saving battery is not using the phone, and having a 400 bucks phone just for show off is just silly at least.
If you have a phone like this is to use it. At least you can change the battery not like some other devices......
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Great battery life comes to people who hardly use their phones. Guess I need to get a netbook. Will prolly get a netbook or 3g laptop + skype and ETF my phone soon. These battery woes are show-stopping.
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Losing 4% an hour on standby when you're not using the phone is unacceptable. Samsung screwed something up with the JI6 update. Most people think it's because of the stupid Media Hub. I think they are right.
People are not complaining about the poor battery life from using the phone. They are complaining about the slow battery drain even when they are not using it. ~4% an hour adds up fast. Vibrant is supposed to have 450 hour (18 days) stand-by time. That's what is rated. But people are getting 24 hour (1 day) stand-by time after JI6.

Yellow C6 said:
Losing 4% an hour on standby when you're not using the phone is unacceptable. Samsung screwed something up with the JI6 update. Most people think it's because of the stupid Media Hub. I think they are right.
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I'm not ready to sign off on this idea. For me simply flashing JI2 over JI6 fixed it. For some people flashing JI6 back over still left the problem fixed. I still have those processes running on JI2 and my battery life is fine.
The other reason I'm not ready to recommend wiping out those DRM processes is that apparently it stops the bundled Avatar movie from playing, and might affect other things that users may get pissed about. I've read that killing the downloader process people are talking about kills the market. So I really wish those people advocating that solution would figure their **** out and provide exact steps for the fix (right now their posts are really vague like "kill the processes that are named something like this" and not well tested; in all my research I didn't find the exact name of the "downloader" process).

Is it possible to flash the ji2 modem without root? Wishful thinking, I suppose..

DHD and its battery

What a fantastic phone. I've really never had anything so quick and so useable.
But the battery life is a disaster. I'm hard-pressed to get a day's use out of the thing - menaing hours of daylight - and that often includes short charge times connected to a computer.
The phone is so good that I've been prepared to try workarounds. I've ordered a couple of spares batteries - genuine ones. I've ordered the 1300 Mugen to see if that improves things.
I've ordered exprernal battery backs from New Trent - through Amazon.
Frankly, I'm going to be looking for some kind of backpack to lug it all around!!
I take or make about a dozen short calls per day. I check my emails about a dozen times a day - delete a lot, forrward a lot and reply to some - so that is the kind of use I am giving.
I'd like at least to be able to get up in the morning and find that the phone hasn't completely discharged overnight.
What's the heads-up on this?

Hi,
Depending on how long you've had the phone, your battery should get better.
Have you tried Juice Defender? Its very good.
Whilst I am working I switch to 2G only, Data & Sync are off. And I turn them back on when I want to check them. This increases battery life duration.

No I haven't tried juice defender. I'll give it a go. Thanks
I've had the phone for just over a week and it has already gone through several charge cycles. I would have expected it to have reached peak performance by now.
One of my new HTC spares seems to perform even more poorly - alhtough it is still very new.
I haven't tried the other one yet.

Once you have broken through the "Honeymoon" period you will notice better battery performance.
I've had my DHD since launch & my usage is not dissimilar to yours, maybe a little music or radio too. I get atleast a full day.
If your battery is being drained unusually quick, try installing Current Widget and enable logging with running applications, that way you can see what is using your battery.

lejars1 said:
No I haven't tried juice defender. I'll give it a go. Thanks
I've had the phone for just over a week and it has already gone through several charge cycles. I would have expected it to have reached peak performance by now.
One of my new HTC spares seems to perform even more poorly - alhtough it is still very new.
I haven't tried the other one yet.
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A new battery needs some time to "reach peak performance" as you put it. In other words, it needs to calibrate or be calibrated, there are some tutorials on the subject in the DHD forums

andyharney said:
If your battery is being drained unusually quick, try installing Current Widget and enable logging with running applications, that way you can see what is using your battery.
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+1 to CurrentWidget, it's very handy. Also, you could try using Watchdog Lite to see if your CPU load is being used excessively and see what programs are running in the background. Have you checked things like Auto-Sync, USB Debugging? Who's your carrier too, have you got a lot of bloatware?

Ta.
My carrier is Orange.fr (worse luck).
I don't think that I have any bloatware. I'm using both maildroid and profimail to decide which one I want to use.
I'm not using a live wall paper. I have turned down the brightness to about 35%.
I use bedtime - alarm.
Only Total recall - a call recorder running in the background but it only pops up with phone calls.
And now juice defender.
No autosync. no usb debugger.
I have to say that I am not sure what to do about all the services.
Frankly it is a real pain having to take this amount of trouble with the phone just because the battery is not adequate. Luckily, the phone is so good that it is worth the hassle - just.
I'll try current widget as well.
I'm using Battery Doctor at the moment

Email apps are configured only to operate manually

check this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
I've had this phone for 2 months now, I use it pretty much the way you do (including some facebook and a few sms's) and I get more than 2 days out of it!!
Follow this guide, and if you re can, flash the Leedroid ROM.
You will not believe the difference in performance and battery.

Hi. I got my desire HD back in November and struggled to get 12 hours from it. So last week I rooted it and installed setCPU, set it to 768mhz I think and now I get 24 hours from battery!
That's my advice anyways
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Thank you for all the interest I am receiving with this.
I've installed current widget. As I reactivate the screen display back on it shows me a discharge of about 2Ma - very good.
With the screen on and no activity the discharge is about 257 Ma - very bad and it doesn't take much to get this up to over 350Ma - disastrous.
I've been considering rooting it but I have asked this initial question and don't have an answer as yet:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970565

If you install Watchdog Lite from the Market you can see what is using your CPU and how much percentage of it is Idle. It could be possible that even though you are closing apps, they are still running in the background, especially with those on screen figures of 350, there's definitely something wrong there. For example, I have a game called iMobsters that even though I close it it runs in the background afterwards for at least an hour using up an average of 35% CPU which of course will run the battery down.
I'm Orange from UK and there was quite a bit of bloatware which was the main reason for me to root my phone. I'm unsure on your software version though. However if you follow the guide to root it as normal without downgrading, you'll know if you need to downgrade as Visionary+ won't be able to root it otherwise.
Rooting does help to uninstall apps you don't use too using Titanium Backup, for example, I uninstalled Friend Stream, News, Stocks, Twitter, Orange Services which all run in the background usually and run down battery.
Without playing too many games, I can get two days use out of mine now.

Yes, maybe I should bite the bullet on the rooting. Is it undoable?
There is a lot of advice about it on this forum. Which is the best set of instructions to look for and after that which is the best ROM?

Also, I can't find Watchdog Lite on the Market. Doesn't seem to be there. Do you have a link?

Thread closed....please read the sticky roll up as there's an existing,well documented Battery thread.
Regards,
M_T_M
The happy Mod

Battery Obsession

What is wrong with almost everyone's obsession regarding battery life??
Oh my gosh I'm so tired of hearing everyone saying: I have switched everything off now and still only get 2 days of use.. Why??
If you want a weeks worth of battery life get 1" non-touch black & white screen phone.
If you want a awesome phone get a Galaxy Note, switch everything on, sync your social networks and mail every 10 minutes. Browse the web on the awesome 5.3" screen, play games and enjoy the phone to the full. So what if you need to charge it every 12hours.

Pikkie86 said:
What is wrong with almost everyone's obsession regarding battery life??
Oh my gosh I'm so tired of hearing everyone saying: I have switched everything off now and still only get 2 days of use.. Why??
If you want a weeks worth of battery life get 1" non-touch black & white screen phone.
If you want a awesome phone get a Galaxy Note, switch everything on, sync your social networks and mail every 10 minutes. Browse the web on the awesome 5.3" screen, play games and enjoy the phone to the full. So what if you need to charge it every 12hours.
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2days hahahaha he said 2 days hahahahahahaha
1charge per 12 hours with 4.5-6 hours screen on for surfing and videos 2 hours music to work and back and if not music it is 720 video Dr.House and all the time wifi or 3g on!!! oh and 3-4 hours on a area with 0-2 signal and only G
life battery rocks!!!
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2 days 10 hours with light usage (1 hour screen on time, automatic brightness, few 5 minute calls, about 20 notes, apps updating and some browsing over wifi) and still have 70% left.
It depends on the user. It surely has the juice to cope with heavy use. I couldn't be more happy

Bassarnis said:
2 days 10 hours with light usage (1 hour screen on time, automatic brightness, few 5 minute calls, about 20 notes, apps updating and some browsing over wifi) and still have 70% left.
It depends on the user. It surely has the juice to cope with heavy use. I couldn't be more happy
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Cheater you Charged it for sure with a usb and forgot
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Braxos said:
Cheater you Charged it for sure with a usb and forgot
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No cheats here, just light usage

bassarnis, be a pal and tell us how the hell you managed that. even with light usage i'd be lucky to get 15+ hrs.

kebong said:
bassarnis, be a pal and tell us how the hell you managed that. even with light usage i'd be lucky to get 15+ hrs.
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Roger that, entering good guy Greg mode.
First of all, the fist charges are important. Once i bought it, i updated it to latest 2.3.6 OTA and started using it till it shut itself off. Then charged it to full while off. Repeated this circle 5-6 times, maybe more. I haven't rooted the device yet. Its 100% stock running KK5. (Europe)
As i am in places where there is wifi available, i switched data off. In wireless and network options, i use "GSM only" mode. I left auto synch, auto brightness and gps on.
Widgets. I use the stock weather, stock digital clock, battery solo widget, stock task killer, stock news and weather, stock calendar. All those spread across 6 homescreens with 39 other app shortcuts on a black/silver background.
About the light usage. 5-6 times a day, i switch wifi on for synching. I read my mail and check my Facebook messages. Once i am done doing whatever i wanted to do that requires internet (update any app that requires updating etc.), i switch wifi off.
Lastly, before going to sleep, i close all active apps using the stock task killing widget and clear the ram. Overnight, i lose 2% battery.

Now that's what I call a battery obsession!
I just use my device as I see fit, and top up charge when I can - I have a Micro USB cable on my keyring, which means I've always got a charging cable on me.
Regards,
Dave
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Bassarnis said:
Roger that, entering good guy Greg mode.
First of all, the fist charges are important. Once i bought it, i updated it to latest 2.3.6 OTA and started using it till it shut itself off. Then charged it to full while off. Repeated this circle 5-6 times, maybe more. I haven't rooted the device yet. Its 100% stock running KK5. (Europe)
As i am in places where there is wifi available, i switched data off. In wireless and network options, i use "GSM only" mode. I left auto synch, auto brightness and gps on.
Widgets. I use the stock weather, stock digital clock, battery solo widget, stock task killer, stock news and weather, stock calendar. All those spread across 6 homescreens with 39 other app shortcuts on a black/silver background.
About the light usage. 5-6 times a day, i switch wifi on for synching. I read my mail and check my Facebook messages. Once i am done doing whatever i wanted to do that requires internet (update any app that requires updating etc.), i switch wifi off.
Lastly, before going to sleep, i close all active apps using the stock task killing widget and clear the ram. Overnight, i lose 2% battery.
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I see things like this and I cringe... It's a smartphone. It shouldn't need all this garbage done to it to get good battery life. It shouldn't need toggling, everything should be on, push notifications should be used, and it should still get good battery life

Yumunum said:
I see things like this and I cringe... It's a smartphone. It shouldn't need all this garbage done to it to get good battery life. It shouldn't need toggling, everything should be on, push notifications should be used, and it should still get good battery life
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YEAH! i should be able to have wifi always on without it using any battery. thats right. screw the laws of thermodynamics, it should run for weeks even! having to toggle a button is just way too much work for me!

Yumunum said:
I see things like this and I cringe... It's a smartphone. It shouldn't need all this garbage done to it to get good battery life. It shouldn't need toggling, everything should be on, push notifications should be used, and it should still get good battery life
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I partly agree with you. But we lack the battery technology to do all that. Not having enough signal coverage alone is enough to drain your battery. In some ways, you adjust yourself so as to keep using the phone for longer periods of time.
I must disagree with the fact that all the above i mentioned are garbage though. I am happy that i figured out a combination that will save me huge amounts of battery. I can still do all the heavy use i need, when i need it. With smart-phones there are options in settings to let you do just that. No-one forces you to do all that, just as no-one forces me to leave everything on.
Having lost 30% battery in 2+ days, means that theoretically if i kept using it like that i would get 7 days of one charge. For example, i know when i will receive an email, from who and when he/she expects me to reply. I hardly get any emails that require immediate response. If someone expects me to reply instantly, they send an sms, or call. Both of the options work fine using gsm only mode.
I also don't find important being logged in facebook 24/7. I 'll log when i have a break, before sleeping and when i wake up. Need to check the weather before leaving for work? Tap on wifi, wait 2 secs for it to connect, click refresh on the widget, done. It doesn't take more than 10 seconds.
I don't rush to turn off wifi or anything. I just use the battery juice and the phone's cpu on demand. The note is indeed a smart-phone, but with all it's features it is reaching laptop territory. I find that treating it as a laptop works better for my needs. Then again, thats just me. If your lifestyle demands all of the note's features on 24/7, then by all means leave them on. There are external 18000 mAh battery packs you can grab.

I'm running Cassies's Lite ROM and I can get between 5 hours and one week on a single charge. Just do everybody a favor and understand that this thing can go into sleep state for days.
If I leave it alone, nothing playing or syncing on the background I lose about 1-2% in 8 hours, so this could go on for days, even a week if you don't touch it.
Of course if the screen is on for only 15 minutes on 2 days, you're not going to have much power used.
During calls screen is off, yesterday I did a 1 hour call and lost less than 10% battery. So you can make several calls on 2 days and lose litlle charge.
If you play a 3D game with screen on at full brightnees, you'll deplete the battery in 5 hours.
It's no difficult to understand. battery life depends on what you do with the thing. Whenever the screen is on, it will consume power. How much depends on the brightness level and the color of the pixels displayed.
Syncing facebook / twitter / e-mail through 3G takes a lot of power too, specially when you're on a low signal area.

Anybody noticed the difference charging the phone while off versus charging it while on.
It looks to me charging while off makes the phone battery last much longer
it also takes much longer time to charge

ChromJ said:
Anybody noticed the difference charging the phone while off versus charging it while on.
It looks to me charging while off makes the phone battery last much longer
it also takes much longer time to charge
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Yes thats a fact, it also happens with my girlfriend's galaxy s2.. With my note the other day, found out that even plugged by usb to the pc with intensive using, wasn't enough to charge the battery % and actually it was decreasing..

William Haven said:
Yes thats a fact, it also happens with my girlfriend's galaxy s2.. With my note the other day, found out that even plugged by usb to the pc with intensive using, wasn't enough to charge the battery % and actually it was decreasing..
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My old iPhone 4 did that . I was downloading an app while having it plugged in into the wall outlet, and the battery just started going down (600+ meg download).
The note is a sloooowww charging device, that's for sure.

i always get over 2 days life out of mine. i never use wifi and i have gps on all the time. But what i do is i have the screen to auto and i use the stock task manager widget. With applications i always use the back button instead of home which 90% of the time closes the app. As a browser i use opera mobile as this has an exit button too. keeping running apps to a minimum seems to help my battery las well.

I'm getting amazing battery life.
And still going strong 11hrs with somewhat light usage and it's nowhere near 50% battery yet hehehe
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i can get around 5 hours display time, wich is faaaaar better than sgs2. During the night the power consumption is 1% per 5 hours with wireless off or 1%/hour with wireless on. I'm on Rocket rom v12 which rocks!
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Yumunum said:
I see things like this and I cringe... It's a smartphone. It shouldn't need all this garbage done to it to get good battery life. It shouldn't need toggling, everything should be on, push notifications should be used, and it should still get good battery life
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I'm getting 3.5 days on a charge with moderate use.
I have 4 email accounts that are polled every 60 minutes.
I make a few calls a day and use the browser a little.
What seems to help is doing a force stop on apps that I'm not using like AP Mobile and Yahoo Finance.
Also, I am runnning KL7.

With light usage, few sync's a few calls ((4-5 min) some texts and notes and few minutes of gaming.. I get a around with 16+ hours of usage easily. I'm happy with the battery and the Note can definitely get on with a more aggressive battery usage...