hi,
I would like to know how often you recharge your Hero?
With moderate to low usage I'm recharging every day and I'm thinking that autonomie on my Hero is really very bad. Before I used Polaris and I had to recharge every 2 or 3 days.
I'm thinking that maybe my phone have manufacture default. On official web page they say that autonomy on standby is 440 hours, its like 15 days, mine keeps barely 1 day, wtf!!!
Even during night when I don't use it all and put on plane mode battery loses 20%.
whitealien
i recharge everyday with mild usage. gaming - usually keep it plugged in.
with moderate usage i recharge my GSM Hero every 2-3 days. by moderate i mean, like 1h Wifi, 2h mp3, 0.5h phone usage, 1.5h online activity over 3G.
Thats about it. And even if i multiply the usage above by two, it will last two days.
During flightmode inthe night, it loses about 5-10%.
so it seems something is sucking really bad on your battery!
Cheers,
Chaos42
I would say I charge mine every 2-3 days. I'm a relatively low user but wifi is on all of the time and I use it for browsing a bit in the evenings when I don't have my PC turned on. GPS, mobile web and bluetooth is off for the most part.
My wife has the same phone and her battery life is a little shorter than mine but she has the mobile web on and uses hers a bit more then me so I would guess around 1.5-2 days.
My battery is rated at 1350mAh which I think is standard.
I have to charge it every day.
Unplug it from charger at 0700 and by 2200 it has less than 10% battery.
But I have WiFi on for over twelve hours a day, mobile web on and quite a few things updating online!
Background apps may be draining your battery
Hi whitealian,
Check the application list to see which applications are running in the background. One of them may be draining your power.
You can check the task list using Estrongs File Explorer (start the app, then menu->Task Manager). There are plenty of other task managers, of course...
In my case, I think it was ShopSavvy that was running in the BG. Once I removed it the battery performance was much better. See this post.
You can also use one of the apps that turn on/off wifi based on location. A quick market search finds "Y5 - Battery Saver". Haven't tried it myself yet!
Good luck!
mobile.dev said:
Hi whitealian,
Check the application list to see which applications are running in the background. One of them may be draining your power.
You can check the task list using Estrongs File Explorer (start the app, then menu->Task Manager). There are plenty of other task managers, of course...
In my case, I think it was ShopSavvy that was running in the BG. Once I removed it the battery performance was much better. See this post.
You can also use one of the apps that turn on/off wifi based on location. A quick market search finds "Y5 - Battery Saver". Haven't tried it myself yet!
Good luck!
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Thanks for advice. I was not using ShopSavvy, but I had doubts that either I got faulty device or some app is draining battery.
I called customer service and they advice me to put phone in safe mode and test it for awhile. It extended a little my battery life, but still recharge every day. Next step was to reset to factory default. This is what I did yesterday and now I'm at the end of second day since last charge and I still have 40% left, what seems to be normal, but still a little to early to judge that everything is good.
I still don't know from where battery drain was coming. Probably from some app.
I'm putting my bet on NewsRob - google feed reader. It was the only app that was using network in background (apart from mail and tweeter sync).
too often. mostly once a day.
but when i'm at home im ususally plugging the as adaptor in either way, because i'm afraid to have to little battery left if i leave the house without a 100% battery level. (this can happen fast if you sync a lot of rss feeds, surf the net, have an exchange server connection and gmail push and so on...)
They really need to make better batteries. They should last 2-3 days on full force usage.
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
They really need to make better batteries. They should last 2-3 days on full force usage.
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I wish it could
I think once every 2 days, but at night I have the ''phonestuff'' turned of using it as an alarm clock only. I do use the mobile internet connection all day. Tried once without that and got almost 4 days out of one charge.
I agree they have to make better battery's but I don't think the hero's that bad.
I had a diamond wich I had to charge almost twice a day when data was on...
So for me the hero's a big improvement.
I too get 2 to 3 days use out of a charge. Got rid of standard HTC Twitter client and replaced with Twidroid Pro. Only have Gmail push synchronization on.
I am pretty sure you are aware if the standard HTC SMS app battery drain issue?
Someone pointed out that HTCs SMS app constantly drains the battery, because it stopps the phone from entering standby mode. You can replace it by going into Applications menu, open "Messages", "Clear defaults" and install HandCent. As soon as a new SMS comes in, it will ask you which app you want to handle SMS messages. Choose HandCent, make it default and you are set.
Gave me a huge battery performance boost.
every day. that is the only bad issue of my hero.
I charge mine daily when I go to bed as it's usually giving me the 15% warning about 24hrs after I last charged it.
The joys of smartphones
At least once a day.
I've got a desk stand so it sit's in that for a constant juicing up, when im in the car I put it on to charge.. At work its on USB charge.. Basically I just juice it whenever I can..
I dont think theres anything wrong with yours.. they just have bad battery life.
If you think thats bad try the fossil palm powered watches.. i have to take it off every couple of hours to charge it!
Too often. Exchange, gmail, 1 additional pop3 inbox, facebook every 2hrs, twitter every 2hrs is enough for my phone to barelly hold a charge for a day. But when actually using the phone (music, calling), it doesn't hold even a day.
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I am pretty sure you are aware if the standard HTC SMS app battery drain issue?
Someone pointed out that HTCs SMS app constantly drains the battery, because it stopps the phone from entering standby mode. You can replace it by going into Applications menu, open "Messages", "Clear defaults" and install HandCent. As soon as a new SMS comes in, it will ask you which app you want to handle SMS messages. Choose HandCent, make it default and you are set.
Gave me a huge battery performance boost.
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Tried it. I installed Handcent, but when I want to want to make it default, the button is greyed out. What am I doing wrong?
klaus27 said:
I am pretty sure you are aware if the standard HTC SMS app battery drain issue?
Someone pointed out that HTCs SMS app constantly drains the battery, because it stopps the phone from entering standby mode. You can replace it by going into Applications menu, open "Messages", "Clear defaults" and install HandCent. As soon as a new SMS comes in, it will ask you which app you want to handle SMS messages. Choose HandCent, make it default and you are set.
Gave me a huge battery performance boost.
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That's a US only thing though, right? The European ones don't suffer with that issue AFAIK.
...Which I'm glad about as I sometimes have to charge my hero twice a day. Data is on all the time when I'm out and I'm a pretty heavy user of it. In terms of calls perhaps an hour a day, and not a huge number of texts (more than ten would be unusual). I do use the phone to listen to music quite often too.
I think the apps in the background thing is what needs to be checked. I use a news widget and Facebook and Weather and a travel one which I think adds up to a lot of refreshes. I'm thinking about making a Sense Profile (or whatever it's called) that has nothing on the homescreens at all for times when I might want to be a bit more frugal with battery life.
I do think it's somewhat ridiculous that the phone is capable of doing so many things but that if you have it do them it withers and dies. I would've thought the way to calculate battery life would be to have the phone doing the things that people will want to do with it and work from there. It seems that battery life is calculated by turning the phone into as dormant a state as possible and then tip toeing around it trying not to disturb it.
I get by though.
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That's a US only thing though, right? The European ones don't suffer with that issue AFAIK.
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Well, I cannot confirm that. I have a European one and mine drained the battery. I searched the net and with this trick I came from ~1 day to over 2 days with moderate usage and push enabled all the time.
tombond said:
Tried it. I installed Handcent, but when I want to want to make it default, the button is greyed out. What am I doing wrong?
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Well, have you cleared the default for message application?
You probably want to google it or just read over this posts:
http://www.phonenews.com/improving-sprint-htc-hero-battery-life-9720/
My battery went even better once I configured Locale to go into airplane mode during night time and stopping sync services during work time. I don't need push when I am at work (timescal set, no GPS), because there I have all my mailboxes open and directly connected.
Some more tipps to improve battery performance.
Disable 3G - Set to "only 2G" in mobile network settings
Set display timeout to 30s or lower
Remove as many widgets from your homescreens as possible (I only have calendar)
use task killer app to check which apps are still running in the background and try to tweak their settings to not autoload or don't notify you on updates - and of course kill them
disable screen animations
uncheck WLAN for location checking
don't check your mailboxes too regular
disable vibration totally. disable haptic feedback for the keyboard as well
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So just got my incredible today, after the initial tooling around i charged it (was taking forever on my computer, anyone else have this issue?)
and now i took it off, and answered some texts and changed a couple settings but otherwise didn't touch it much. Like around a half hour later it is now at 88 percent..... seems a bit much.
only widgets that i have pulling from the internet are engadget, htc weather, and the facebook widget. Think it might just be the early status of the battery? anyone else have good reports or any battery life saving tips?
edit: also brightness is like at half, and gps/wifi/bluetooth are not on
Yeah, I have also noticed that it seems to take forever to charge it. I drained it from fully charged down to about 35% in less than 4 hours of moderate usage. I have had it plugged into my USB port for 2 hours and it is only back up to 52%.
Not so great.
I plugged it into the wall after a bit on my pc and it charged alot faster, must be just a pc charging issue, though it is disappointing.
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So just got my incredible today, after the initial tooling around i charged it (was taking forever on my computer, anyone else have this issue?)
and now i took it off, and answered some texts and changed a couple settings but otherwise didn't touch it much. Like around a half hour later it is now at 88 percent..... seems a bit much.
only widgets that i have pulling from the internet are engadget, htc weather, and the facebook widget. Think it might just be the early status of the battery? anyone else have good reports or any battery life saving tips?
edit: also brightness is like at half, and gps/wifi/bluetooth are not on
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Your PC USB doesn't supply as much power as the standalone charger. It will always take significantly longer to charge using the PC USB as opposed to the standalone charger.
Anyone know when the VZW extended battery is coming (2150mAh) and how heavy/large it'll be?
th3drow said:
So just got my incredible today, after the initial tooling around i charged it (was taking forever on my computer, anyone else have this issue?)
and now i took it off, and answered some texts and changed a couple settings but otherwise didn't touch it much. Like around a half hour later it is now at 88 percent..... seems a bit much.
only widgets that i have pulling from the internet are engadget, htc weather, and the facebook widget. Think it might just be the early status of the battery? anyone else have good reports or any battery life saving tips?
edit: also brightness is like at half, and gps/wifi/bluetooth are not on
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anything that pulls anything from the internet will eat your battery. personally i don't need to be that connected to tech, i run apps when i need them, turn off anything that pulls from the internet and update weather/email/and such when i need to.
if you want to be constantly connected to tech, its gonna come at a price. this is true with any smartphone. just be thankful you can have battery back-ups, haha. id' suggest picking up a spare
Ya i understand that, currently the only thing i have pulling from the internet at the moment is my weather, which does it once an hour,I took the other widgets off.
This morning i woke up, took it off the charger, took the alarms off and answered some texts adn i think checked the weather, like 15 minutes later it was at 90 percent, it went down like 3 percent within like a minute off the charger.....
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Ya i understand that, currently the only thing i have pulling from the internet at the moment is my weather, which does it once an hour,I took the other widgets off.
This morning i woke up, took it off the charger, took the alarms off and answered some texts adn i think checked the weather, like 15 minutes later it was at 90 percent, it went down like 3 percent within like a minute off the charger.....
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go to your sync settings and change the refresh time of your internet apps... stock setting is every 15 min.... I have mine set for every 4 hours... if you need info on the fly you can always manually sync it when you want it... my phone has been on for 10 hours and its only used 1 little bar since I set my settings this way... I do email refresh every 2 hours also like I did on my winmo phone
hmm when i go to accounts & sync i only have the backup assistant, google and weather. The only one that will let me change when it syncs is weather. I don't see where i can change how often it syncs my gmail/contacts/calender, or anything else. So i'm guessing you just cant change those
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hmm when i go to accounts & sync i only have the backup assistant, google and weather. The only one that will let me change when it syncs is weather. I don't see where i can change how often it syncs my gmail/contacts/calender, or anything else. So i'm guessing you just cant change those
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the google sync is your gmail which you can't change but it just pushed to your phone when you get an email... I dont use my gmail as my primary
click add account and it will give you a list of the auto sync apps... facebook... and facebook for htc sence(friend stream) , twitter, flickr
Wow, I was almost going to complain about being @ 35% battery 13 hours since a charge. Moderate use as well.
Anyway, do you have good reception where you are at? If it's ducking in and out of service, your battery will eat it quicker.
The following run in the background all day:
eBuddy
SipDroid
Advanced Task Killer (automatically set to kill apps)
Exchange/Active Sync
Gmail/Calendar/Contacts
Weather (set to 3 hrs)
Roughly 40 minutes of calling
For my settings:
WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS are all off.
Location Off
Privacy (My Location Off)
Brightness ~30% (Automatic off)\
Orientation disabled (likely has nothing to do with battery)
Haptic feedback off
All vibration settings off (drives me nuts anyway)
Audible selection/tones off
Screen timeout 1min
I have been an android user since almost day one and over the years those settings seem to yield the best results.
mycomputerisjunk said:
Wow, I was almost going to complain about being @ 35% battery 13 hours since a charge. Moderate use as well.
Anyway, do you have good reception where you are at? If it's ducking in and out of service, your battery will eat it quicker.
The following run in the background all day:
eBuddy
SipDroid
Advanced Task Killer (automatically set to kill apps)
Exchange/Active Sync
Gmail/Calendar/Contacts
Weather (set to 3 hrs)
Roughly 40 minutes of calling
For my settings:
WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS are all off.
Location Off
Privacy (My Location Off)
Brightness ~30% (Automatic off)\
Orientation disabled (likely has nothing to do with battery)
Haptic feedback off
All vibration settings off (drives me nuts anyway)
Audible selection/tones off
Screen timeout 1min
I have been an android user since almost day one and over the years those settings seem to yield the best results.
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I have been a Windows Mobile user for many years. I have been Android user for about 3 days. I have pretty good reception where I am at.
I think part of the reason I drained my batter so fast was that I have everything like GPS, bluetooth, and wifi turned on all the time. I turned off wifi today and it was a little better. I also have no idea how you close a program. There was always an obvious way to do that with WinMo but can't figure it out with Android. Do I have to have a task killer app?
What are eBuddy and SipDroid? You have a whole bunch of setting turned off. I can deal with WiFi off but bluetooth and GPS are two of the things I really like with this phone. I guess I don't really need the haptic feedback. Do you think that is significant?
I will try some of those out and look up those two apps.
i charged this god damn phone 2 times in a day.....what the F is wrong with it. i got GPS, wifi, and bt all turn off already. i even used task kill.
I also have no idea how you close a program. There was always an obvious way to do that with WinMo but can't figure it out with Android. Do I have to have a task killer app?
What are eBuddy and SipDroid? You have a whole bunch of setting turned off. I can deal with WiFi off but bluetooth and GPS are two of the things I really like with this phone. I guess I don't really need the haptic feedback. Do you think that is significant?
I will try some of those out and look up those two apps.
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the back arrow will exit most things, you can turn off all haptic feedback in the settings.
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Yeah, my settings were similiar to others posted here- 10 hours consuming 85 percent of the battery..But then again, today was my first full day, and everyone at work wanted to see the hyped phone. Maybe it will get better on monday? After playing with my friends droid, i definitely noticed how much lighter the incredible was. I've always hated those stupid extended batteries because of the bulkiness they add to the phone. The extended battery isnt out yet, is it? I'd love to see some reviews on that.
buy more chargers one for the office one for the car and of course one for home problem solved. until they make batteries that are more powerful.... battery life on any phone is going to be the same.
With Heavy usage I got about a 10 hour work day out of it (30% when I got home). My usage is below-
Atleast two hours of Last.fm,
Atleast two hours of web browsing with multiple tabs,
Ebuddy on in background,
Skype on in background,
1 Hour Voice,
Alot of texting.
Im in good service area like 3 bars usually. This morning i took off the charger, played a 3 or 4 minute youtube video and it took it down to 90 percent, seems a bit much to me.
Android Central's forums have a possible solution: Menu-Settings-Wireless and Networks-Mobile Networks (the second one)-Enable always-on mobile...
Uncheck that. Can't post a link, but it's at
forum(dot)androidcentral(dot)com/droid-incredible/10987-battery-life-not-lasting-your-fix-here.html
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Android Central's forums have a possible solution: Menu-Settings-Wireless and Networks-Mobile Networks (the second one)-Enable always-on mobile...
Uncheck that. Can't post a link, but it's at
forum(dot)androidcentral(dot)com/droid-incredible/10987-battery-life-not-lasting-your-fix-here.html
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It was also discussed there that doing the *228 Option 1 to reprogram helped a few people with battery life as well.
Please forgive me if this is a duplicate thread, I searched and only found folks complaining of other things with battery, not the length of life. Feel free to move this if it belongs in another forum.
I was one of the early recipients so I've been using the Incredible for a week already. Here are my findings on battery life and opening to further suggestions to stretch this out some more.
I am using the standard battery that came with the phone. I have a wall charger at my desk at work and a car charger in my car, all in addition to the charger on my night-stand. Fortunately these carried over from my Omnia2 since they are Micro USB. However, I have to use these constantly.
I have been using a smartphone for quite a few years and this one is by far the best yet... however, it also bleeds the battery dry like any other smartphone. I am also a power user, Exchange connection for work calendar and mail, Gmail, internet use and Facebook app. I also use the camera a lot, which yields impressive photos for a phone.
Average day for me; if I unplug the charger at about 7:00am as I leave for work and do not plug it into anything for power, the battery bar turns orange at about 2:30-3:00PM. I use Advanced Task Manager to kill things I don't use and have removed apps I had installed but use minimally which start up on their own (Skype, Photoshop Mobile... etc.). I also keep an eye on the running services to ensure the minimum is running at any given time.
Before I used Advanced Task Manager I was getting to about noon before the battery bar turned orange.
With occasional use of wall and car charger I can get through a full day before I get to red and the "plug into power" warning message. This past weekend I bled it to the point that it turned off on it's own, which was about 10:00PM
I typically have 2+ bars of 3G in my area, at home I have a signal extender so I have full strength signal, if that is off I have 1 bar of 1x.
Anyone have additional tips or tricks on how to milk even more battery life out of my Incredible phone? I expected lackluster battery performance but would love to get through a day without having to keep a charger on me.
NOEAOMD
Try this - seems to be best trick with little or no effect on usability:
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks (2nd one down)-
Uncheck 'Enable always-on mobile data'. Does not affect my push Exchange, and dramatically helps battery life.
Credit is due to one of the users at androidforums.com.
That battery life sounds about right. Keep in mind that having all of that stuff syncing in the background is going to kill your battery life. Also, ATK could be hurting your battery life in general. You clearly have something that it's helping with, but if you're just killing every background process your phone will use more power reinitializing those programs than it would have just keeping them in RAM. In general, if something's not using any CPU time, it's better to leave it running.
My old phone was the touch pro 2. the battery equipped with it has a 1500 mah. The battery is slightly thicker but cover easily closes still and i can now enjoy my phone almost lasting the entire day p
also my friend works a tmobile and supposedly the HD2 also uses the same battery but with a higher rating. They throw them out after awhile and he said he will get me a few of them for free cant wait )
I had a similar issue...
I was having a similar issue where my Incredible wouldn't make it through the day without charging, and I found that Google Maps was eating the lion's share of my battery. I tried using Advanced Task Killer to stop it, but it didn't show up in the list of tasks, but if I checked my battery usage, it was always the task using the most energy (not just by a little...it would typically be responsible for 70-95%). I had turned the Locator feature on within Maps just to see how it worked, but even with it disabled the task would still be running. The only way I was able to rid myself of the process was to reboot Android. My battery life has improved drastically since then.
I'm not saying this will solve your issue, but it's something to look at.
Check this thread on androidforums:
http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-incredible/72539-i-found-fixed-htc-incredible-battery-bug.html
I think the problem is battery Uptime vs Awake time. If they are the same then the battery drains like crazy.
I ended up turning phone off completely, charging, then killing the Calendar process (but I have read killing any process will do) after boot with Astro File Manager.
I am currently at 19 hours 42 minutes Uptime, with 7 hours 12 minutes Awake time (Phone was awake all night apparently and I ended up killing my last processes: Mint, Firewallet, Fianancisto as well as Calendar which showed up in the list again).
And I have GPS, location, syncing on and set to 4 hours for most everything (except for Gmail Contacts and Calendar which I turned off).
Anyway, hope this helps someone.
EDIT: Oh, and I have 60% battery (6 green bars). I'm not using any battery apps or any task manager apps apart from Astro File Manager to kill processes.
carlbettag said:
Try this - seems to be best trick with little or no effect on usability:
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks (2nd one down)-
Uncheck 'Enable always-on mobile data'. Does not affect my push Exchange, and dramatically helps battery life.
Credit is due to one of the users at androidforums.com.
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So far this has done the most good. You are right it doesn't really delay my Exchange much. I notice a few seconds more of a delay when I am at my desk but I will never have something so critical that a few seconds will matter.
carlbettag said:
Try this - seems to be best trick with little or no effect on usability:
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks (2nd one down)-
Uncheck 'Enable always-on mobile data'. Does not affect my push Exchange, and dramatically helps battery life.
Credit is due to one of the users at androidforums.com.
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would this effect google voice?
I am also curious to know what all is effected by disabling that setting...
i disabled it and my google voice works fine, my weather widgets work fine, my dictionary.com widget works fine all updating themselves.... i'm not sure what it changed
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would this effect google voice?
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My Facebook app only refreshes when I open it or manually, Skype IM shows me offline most of the time. Otherwise, just longer battery life.
For what it's worth, I disabled all of the htc widgets and sense (installed helix launcher 2) and I can get through pretty much an entire day on a single charge. Took phone off the charger around 7am and it's just now red at about 10pm.
I thought you couldnt disable sense on this phone.
Thanks!
theoneownz said:
My old phone was the touch pro 2. the battery equipped with it has a 1500 mah. The battery is slightly thicker but cover easily closes still and i can now enjoy my phone almost lasting the entire day p
also my friend works a tmobile and supposedly the HD2 also uses the same battery but with a higher rating. They throw them out after awhile and he said he will get me a few of them for free cant wait )
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Might I say- THIS IS BRILLIANT! Yes, the TP2 bat fits just fine and gives a bit more time on the life of the Incredible... good find!
My Imagio 1500 mAh and 1750 mAh batts also work fine in the Incredible .
Calibob2001 said:
Might I say- THIS IS BRILLIANT! Yes, the TP2 bat fits just fine and gives a bit more time on the life of the Incredible... good find!
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Np man I knew it would help someone :0p I knew i wasnt the only one to swap over lol
We got two Incredibles on Wednesday. The Boss Lady's went through the "select language, etc" drill described in the user's guide on first startup after charging. Mine went straight to the Home screen without any setup options. So I did a hard reset and was walked through the setup.
We left them both on chargers during the night.
Yesterday, after two hours off the charger and doing NOTHING, mine had used up more than a third of the battery.
Boss Lady's was still pegged.
After four hours, still doing bupkiss, mine started begging for the charger. I put it on a car charger. Also fired up Advanced Task Manager (the only app I installed on it), and killed off every app in its list. Some of them, like HTC Checkin and People, just would not die or would restart immediately.
Since we were travelling, Boss Lady spent the trip setting up contacts, texting, checking the weather, and hitting the interwebs.
After a six-hour drive, Boss Lady using hers and mine on the charger, her battery was still nearly topped off. Mine would start begging for the charger five minutes after being disconnected.
Last night about eleven PM, Boss Lady's bettery was still at about 75%. Mine still begging for the charger. Put mine on the charger overnight. (Hers charged for about 30 min this morning). Two hours after taking mine off the charger, and again doing nothing, battery was half gone.
Oh, and during all this, the battery was VERY warm while charging and would immediately warm up considerably when the screen was on.
I checked the battery timers on both phones. Boss Lady's up timer was somthing like 12 hours, awake timer showed less than 7 min.
My timers both showed the same time and were updating in tandem.
I called support, described the Incredible Shrinking Battery. A new Incredible is on its way to my house.
Boss Lady's is still "bone stock" (no special settings) and her battery is chuggin right along...
th3drow said:
I thought you couldnt disable sense on this phone.
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Im running GDE because helix2 kept force closing on me but same result. My battery now only runs down if I'm actively using the phone. With sense running it was burning through the battery. Huge improvement.
I was also able to replicate every sense widget but one and that being the contacts widget.
The way to do it is just set helix or GDE or whatever as your default and then restart the phone. As long as you don't manually launch sense after that it will stay turned off.
The reason people think you can't disable sense is that they didn't include some aspects of vanilla android. The messaging program and browser and a few other things aren't there and the artwork for others like the notification bar. You won't have access to the HTC widgets but you will still be able to use the HTC apps.
Anyway long story short. My battery life is MUCH improved with sense disabled.
carlbettag said:
Try this - seems to be best trick with little or no effect on usability:
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks (2nd one down)-
Uncheck 'Enable always-on mobile data'. Does not affect my push Exchange, and dramatically helps battery life.
Credit is due to one of the users at androidforums.com.
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THIS SOLUTION WORKS FANTASTICALLY! I am still at 90% when I used to be 35% by this point in the day. Thank you so much.
Try this - seems to be best trick with little or no effect on usability:
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks (2nd one down)-
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I don't think this is 100% accurate. When you disable this setting, you disable data services after your phone goes to sleep (turning off the display). It does not happen right away, but after I put my phone to sleep and wait a few minutes Gmail and ActiveSync don't push notifications to the phone. If the phone comes out of sleep for some reason (text message, phone call, etc).. Then the notifications works again, because it reconnects to the data network. I have also used K9's push feature, which also stops working after the phone is sleeping for a few minutes.
Also, when you turn off the always-on mobile connection setting the data symbols (3G/1X) go away in sleep. If you wake your phone, you can actually see the data symbols are gone but eventually return.
Today I decided to do a real world test of the Evo's battery life. I used my phone the way I would normally use it on an other day. As for the phone itself, I am running the rom from the OTA update. The only changes that have been made is that I am using unrevoked root method so that I can use the Overclock Widget (marketplace) to turn the processor freq down to 245000 when the screen is off. I also use Advanced Task Killer to turn off apps that I am not using. I had bluetooth and gps turned on throughout the entirety of this test, wifi was on for about 3.5 hours. During this test I played a game for a short period of time, did some light web browsing, and had several phone conversations that totalled a little more than 2 hours. With doing all this, my battery lasted for a little more than 11 hours. That being said, under normal use the Evo should definitely last you throughout a full day.
Thanks for the info. I got my Evo yesterday and haven't been able to put it to through extreme testing yet
No problem. just kind of got tired of hearing how poor the battery life was. Even before using the overclock widget I was still getting decent battery life, but the overclock widget just put it over the top. To add to that, I don't normally talk for 2 hrs. on my phone during a normal day, so really a lot of that 29% battery drain from phone use wouldn't be there. The only thing I didn't use today was 4g (which I don't normally use unless I'm on the phone and need to use data).
Not sure what this proves or "dispells". When people (myself included until making some friendstream changes) are getting 6 hours out of a charge with light use, that is a real problem. You must not have friendstream syncing...if you did and did everything you just wrote about, your phone would be dead in 3 hours tops. Thanks for the info., but once again, people are havnig real issues with the battery...it's not made up.
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Not sure what this proves or "dispells". When people (myself included until making some friendstream changes) are getting 6 hours out of a charge with light use, that is a real problem. You must not have friendstream syncing...if you did and did everything you just wrote about, your phone would be dead in 3 hours tops. Thanks for the info., but once again, people are havnig real issues with the battery...it's not made up.
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If you are experiencing poor battery life then it is most likely attributed to not managing your apps properly (friendstream included). For example, without advanced task killer you will get a drastically different amount of battery life than if you have it. Then add to that, the way you configure advanced task killer can add a large amount of battery life compared to having advanced task killer without it being configured properly. Even with friendstream running you should still be able to get a decent amount of battery life (I am aware that it does use more juice), try having your facebook sync less often.
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If you are experiencing poor battery life then it is most likely attributed to not managing your apps properly (friendstream included). For example, without advanced task killer you will get a drastically different amount of battery life than if you have it. Then add to that, the way you configure advanced task killer can add a large amount of battery life compared to having advanced task killer without it being configured properly. Even with friendstream running you should still be able to get a decent amount of battery life (I am aware that it does use more juice), try having your facebook sync less often.
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I totally agree I've been using my evo and been fine, I only really have it connected to power when I have it tethering. Besides that it lasts me not all day but while I'm at work (which is the most important part) I get a good 9-10 hours out of it before I really need to charge. It should also be noted that I use locale to switch BT and wifi off when I'm not in an area to take advantage of them.
I think some people have bad batterys/evo's, it's not just a matter of running the right programs or killing tasks
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I think some people have bad batterys/evo's, it's not just a matter of running the right programs or killing tasks
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While that is possible I think the majority of the problem rests with the user's mismanagement of apps. I have seen way to many posts from people declaring the battery life to be so horrible, only to make a few changes and then turn around and say how much better it got. If that person had a bad battery then the battery would still have been bad, it wouldn't just start being good. That said, it is very possible that there are people with bad batteries. I just think that most of the people have good batteries and bad phone management.
I did pretty much the same thing. I have the O/C widget to set the frequency to 245000 when the screen is off and also have Advance Task Manager configured to close apps I'm not using. Helps out a lot and I usually get around 12~14 hours on a charge.
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If you are experiencing poor battery life then it is most likely attributed to not managing your apps properly (friendstream included). For example, without advanced task killer you will get a drastically different amount of battery life than if you have it. Then add to that, the way you configure advanced task killer can add a large amount of battery life compared to having advanced task killer without it being configured properly. Even with friendstream running you should still be able to get a decent amount of battery life (I am aware that it does use more juice), try having your facebook sync less often.
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While I completely understand what you are saying, I can't really agree that b/c someone is not getting a full day out of their phone it is b/c of poor app management. While deleting facebook for sense, then reinstalling with only contacts synced fixed everything for me, the fact that you have to go through the phone with a fine tooth comb to get it to run more than 6 hours at a time is pretty silly. While doing that stuff is fine for me and most on this forum, it will undoubtedly turn a lot of non-techie people off from this phone...especially with Sprint doing their new 30 day full refund policy.
It's all good though, just plugged my phone in after 19 hours...playing with it most of the day.
I use advanced task killer and turned off sync for apps I dont use. At 65% used pandora (in 4g for about an hour), browsed several sites, made phone calls, text, emailed. All the normal stuff. Took my phone off the charger 15 hours ago.
Prior to using advanced task killer I would be to about 18% right now. So for those saying that task managers kill more battery power my phone seems to do the exact opposite.
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I use advanced task killer and turned off sync for apps I dont use. At 65% used pandora (in 4g for about an hour), browsed several sites, made phone calls, text, emailed. All the normal stuff. Took my phone off the charger 15 hours ago.
Prior to using advanced task killer I would be to about 18% right now. So for those saying that task managers kill more battery power my phone seems to do the exact opposite.
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Task killers really only help if you have an app that would normally be giving you higher than usual wake time (the calendar comes to mind). At the start of every boot I always make sure to kill everything so only essential apps and those I use are running. I don't use any kind of auto kill.
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It is no longer recommended that a task killer be used. It may result in poor phone performance.
After i rooted with Toasts method, installed OMJ's rom removing all of the sprintware and added the OverClockWidget to tweak the processor, i was able to go a full 32 hours without charging. i had gps and bluetooth on the whole time and wifi on for several hours. i made calls, sent texts, took pictures, basically normal usage.
Just to add to all this. Bad battery isnt just a HTC Evo problem. Go read the forums of almost every android phone released and they all report the same things (in the beginning). Someone that has had a android phone in the past probably hasnt said much about battery. There are so many things you can do to increase battery.
1. manage your apps. Exit them instead of leaving them running (press back button until the app closes, or some apps you can Menu> exit) Pressing home doesnt close the app, it only takes you to the homescreen. Also change the sync times of all your apps/widgets. If you dont use gmail or google calendar, then uncheck the "sync" in Menu>accounts & sync> google. One last thing use a task manager (not recommended by some devs) I use it to end tasks of apps that use data, or ones that i use maybe once a day or once a week, i dont need them cached for quick returning, so i end the task all together. I ignore apps so they dont end that i use very frequently or ones that dont use data or run in the background.
2. Calibrate your battery once like so.. Charge your phone to 100% and then use your phone like normal until its so dead it shuts off by itself. Dont plug it into the computer or wall charger in that time. Then once it shuts off, plug the phone into a wall charger and charge it till its 100% again. After that, plug and play as much as you want.
3. Buy a car charger, usb cord for the comp, and maybe another wall charger. Buy an extra battery or extended battery. Doing the above and adding these to them, youll have a huge increase in battery.
I have an htc hero and i can get well over 12 hours of use by just watching what syncs and what uses data. And i use my phone alot, and wake it up a ton to check for notifications.
I use a friends Evo so im not new to the device and I understand its a different phone.
Stock htc phones come with a lot of stuff preinstalled and widgets. When signing into them with your accounts the sync times are usually pretty high, some like every 15mins. Watch what you are doing with the phone and youll have normal battery life.
i avg 18 -19 hours per charge so im very happy
aaaaah ok now I know who is the idiot Dylan here. Thanks. What a dumbass know-it-all.
I think some people are getting poor battery life because intermittent signal. I know this was the case for me. When I go to a friends house that I barely have signal, the phone constantly tries to find signal or goes into roaming. It would drain the battery fast. When I was in good signal area it seemed to last quite a while. Just saying that it is more than just running apps that cause poor battery.
Also if you will not use the internet turn off the mobile network, put the widget in your screen. You can receive calls but the internet is off.
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I think some people are getting poor battery life because intermittent signal. I know this was the case for me. When I go to a friends house that I barely have signal, the phone constantly tries to find signal or goes into roaming. It would drain the battery fast. When I was in good signal area it seemed to last quite a while. Just saying that it is more than just running apps that cause poor battery.
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You make a very good point. Weak/no signal areas will drain your battery (as with any phone) very quickly due to the phone constantly scanning for signal. Not really much you can due about that other than turning your phone radio off or switching carriers lol. One thing I've read in the Dev forum that may help you is to change your prl to the Alltell/Verizon prl. Some people have reported that this works well in low signal areas.
How long does your Galaxy S battery lasts when APN is enabled?
Bought mine at Singtel and my Galaxy S came with a G7 battery...
my battery lasts barely a day.. I need to turn off APN so it can last longer.
I also installed Task Panel X to kill the running apps which I think is using my Data (if I didn't turn of APN).
I'm curious about these 3 apps, they always runs again even if I killed them using Task Panel
1) SNS -> Phonebook & Facebook integration, even if I disabled the auto sync and turn off Sync in the Power Control Widget.
2) My Uploads -> I'm not uploading anything..
3) com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una -> what is this?
4) Feeds and Updates -> even if I'm not using this widget.
3) com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una -> what is this?
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Im guesing that is touch wizz​
once I got all apps installed (coming over from G1) it get very bad, barely get through a full day, I can see it ticking down at times.....cant seem to track down the culprit apps though
I woke up at 6am this morning, got low batter warning at 10am this morning wtf! (first day of having the phone).
Hope it gets better....
Mine is still showing about 1/4 charged after 24 hours of light use.
Been useing it for a few days now and most off time got BT and wifi is on from time to time at home and work to speed things upp, and also every morning/night on my way to work play music. And use mail,sms and call for quite a bit every day, and on the night when i go to bed i got around 20-30% left. I take it off like 7 at the morning and i put it in charger at around 22-23 so should say battery is quite nice so far.
mine has great battery too.. but I don't have 3g yet
either way even if my internet is closed, many of the apps you mentioned still run out of nowhere.
Once we get root we'll be able to disable them via the application "Autostarts"
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mine has great battery too.. but I don't have 3g yet
either way even if my internet is closed, many of the apps you mentioned still run out of nowhere.
Once we get root we'll be able to disable them via the application "Autostarts"
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we have root already...
but looking at the autostarts list, can't decide which can be disabled....
battery life huh..
i listen to music.. search the web.. read pdf's.. calls.. gaming (tangram pro).. play with the interface..
all in all.. battery kinda sucks.. i always carry with me the Gata USB cable so that I can charge at work.
i travel for 1.5 - 2 hours to work and i can manage to get the battery nearly half once i reach work after using the phone (no calls).
hopefully we will see high capacity battery for the phone like 3500mAh - 3800mAh..
oh yeah, someone said that you need to drain and charge it 5 times to get the battery working at 100% capacity.. not sure though.. and haven't tried.. but will try eventually.. hehehe
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we have root already...
but looking at the autostarts list, can't decide which can be disabled....
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sorry yes I know we have it but I wrote it wrong haha I meant once we have an easier way to root xD
I'm not comfortable rooting that way. I remember it was easier before :/ ..
I have to say my battery life has been pretty good. I didnt charge the phone when I got it like some have said you should do, it arrived with 40% battery and lasted about 6 hours of constant use. The next day it lasted just shy of 24 hours and then with medium use im getting about 32 hours out of it. Today im on 71% after 12 hours of use. I expect I can get 2 full days out of it if I could leave the phone be for more than 5 minutes but that screen is too hard to resist. This is with push email always on, twitter updating every 15mins, stocks updating every 30mins and a live wallpaper. The screen does have the brightness turned all the way down though, I only bump it up when in direct sunlight.
About 50% longer then my Desire lasted with the same Apps.
Any ideas on why mine would be so low? Have been awake for 3.5 hours now, and am on 63% battery. Light internet surfing on wifi for some of it, but a lot of it was just standby...
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Any ideas on why mine would be so low? Have been awake for 3.5 hours now, and am on 63% battery. Light internet surfing on wifi for some of it, but a lot of it was just standby...
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Have a look at what your wifi is set for connecting and downloading emails.
Mine was set to connect every 5mins and I didn't get round to checking this feature for the first couple of days.
During that time my phone needed charging twice a day.
Ithen changed the timing from every 5mins to every 1hr (and nothing else), now instead of charging 2 x daily I get a whole days use with some to spare.....
When the machine lays idle wifi is the biggest battery eater.
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Any ideas on why mine would be so low? Have been awake for 3.5 hours now, and am on 63% battery. Light internet surfing on wifi for some of it, but a lot of it was just standby...
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My initial thoughts would be something to do with the fact, you are charging through USB, and not the mains power supply.
I have found USB, never fully charges my phones, and even when it says 100%, it very quickly drops below, after some use.
thanks for your thoughts guys.
My initial charge was on USB, and I was using it while charging (and unplugged it once or twice), maybe it's just got bad calibration or something as a result and thinks its running low when it isn't? dont know if this is likely or not.
My second charge was via the mains power, with a UK->Australia power adapter.
THen next one was USB
Then last night I charged it using my girlfriends iPhone power adapter (which is a USB -> mains, so I plugged my cable into it).
My exchange email is every 5 minutes, but I kind of want that to stay like that, I might try moving it if I can't think of anything else. Gmail I think can't do anything but push?
my wifi is connected most of hte day, at home and at work, though I just turned off the setting for alerting for new networks, maybe that will help?
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I woke up at 6am this morning, got low batter warning at 10am this morning wtf! (first day of having the phone).
Hope it gets better....
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Happened to me before.. even if I turned off "Sync" in the "Power Control Widget" or setting the phone on 2G Mode.
but I found a possible solution.
Try to un-check the "Background Data" under "Settings - Accounts and Sync". I noticed that the phone still uses data even if I killed all the tasks. Also make sure that you don't have any auto sync settings like "Feeds and Updates", Facebook, Tweeter, etc.. (if you don't need it)
*Android Market needs this "Background Data", it will ask you to turn it on. Just turn it off after..
Startup auditor doesn't require root and seems better then autostarts . I Just bought it. works great ....just an fyi
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I too have the Sanny Galaxy S from Singtel but i flashed the euro fw to get rid of all the bloatware.
Could go into the location menu under settings and turn off the 'get position via wireless networks' option as i find that with that on, the wifi keeps turning itself on although the icon does not pop up in the task bar.
Battery lasts about a full day for me so far with moderate usage (about 1hour of music, 30mins web browsing, push Gmail and Hotmail + Exchange syncing every hour)
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i listen to music.. search the web.. read pdf's.. calls.. gaming (tangram pro).. play with the interface..
all in all.. battery kinda sucks.. i always carry with me the Gata USB cable so that I can charge at work.
i travel for 1.5 - 2 hours to work and i can manage to get the battery nearly half once i reach work after using the phone (no calls).
hopefully we will see high capacity battery for the phone like 3500mAh - 3800mAh..
oh yeah, someone said that you need to drain and charge it 5 times to get the battery working at 100% capacity.. not sure though.. and haven't tried.. but will try eventually.. hehehe
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Draining the battery is bad. These batteries you should try to charge whenever possible. Draining it will lower the capacity.
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I've had the HTC Aria for about four days now and my biggest issues is the battery drains to quickly. At first I attributed it to use because android phones prompt you to use them more often. However, even without use it still drains pretty rapidly. Does anyone know of a solution to this issue software wise. I have already turned off Bluetooth, GPS and Wifi. Are there other solutions
I got mine on Saturday, and I've actually gotten pretty good battery life out of it. I'm still in the habit of charging it every night, like I had to do with my old WinMo phone, but I think I could probably go two days without a charge. And that's with GPS / data always on, Wifi parts of the day, and pretty heavy use, since I'm always playing with it.
Have you tried something like Advanced Task Killer to keep apps closed that you aren't using? You can also adjust your screen brightness and timeout to try and save power.
It says that of my power is used by cellular idle or something like that 50% of it was used by that. Could it be my AT&T service
I don't get more than 10 hours out of mine. When I know I will be out all day, I turn the screen brightness almost all the way down to help conserve energy.
Good as it Gets.
With basic usage (some texting, a few calls and some market browsing or playing a game here and there) about 2 to 2.5 days without charging. Maybe the ones having issues with there phone sucking battery have to many widgets running.
In my current configuration I am only using 3 of my screens and only 3 widgets [favorites (small one), HTC clock/weather widget, and the HTC calendar widget (small)]. I have my work email checking every 30 minutes for syncing. I also have gmail and the default mail app pulling mail. I run ATK but only to kill apps on startup (cause it runs almost everything), other than that you don't need a task killer as you will have to reload these tasks next time and that will drain battery. I don't use it after that to kill anything. I am also running my screen at about 30% brightness.
Just some tips, widgets are nice, but they suck the battery life as well as constant updates. Check to see what you are running and disable/remove what is not needed or adjust sync times.
My battery life is fine. I got two days over the weekend with light usage. You need to look at what services are running and disable any widgets that you dont need. You may also want to look at the sync settings and turn off things you dont use (such as news). You do not need a task killer.
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some quick tips:
1) disable market notifications - Market -> Downloads -> Notifications -> 'Don't Notify Me
2) Lower the sync times for your social network apps like twitter and facebook (or make them manual)
If you still suffer, have a look at some of the great tips HERE on the Cyanogenmod forums...ignore 1 and 3.
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Also one might do *#*#4636#*#* then change phone setting from WCDMA to GSM .... Then that get little more out of battery...
It's critical that you turn off auto-sync; I have found that it absolutely destroys battery life.
Before I was losing maybe 5-10% every hour on standby, but ever since turning off auto-sync, I'm still sitting at 100% battery after 5 hours of standby.
Turning off mobile data/Wi-Fi doesn't make an impact on battery life, in my experience.
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It's critical that you turn off auto-sync if you don't want update to happen, such as Facebook, email, google account (cal/contact) sync, etc..; I have found that it absolutely destroys battery life.
Before I was losing maybe 5-10% every hour on standby, but ever since turning off auto-sync, I'm still sitting at 100% battery after 5 hours of standby.
Turning off mobile data/Wi-Fi doesn't make an impact on battery life, in my experience.
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I edited your response..
Auto-Sync in itself is not going to be a problem.. Depends on what's syncing. EVERYONE will have different battery life because everyone uses their phones differently. Different configurations, different accounts used, different amounts of traffic on those accounts, not to mention actual usage patterns.
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I edited your response..
Auto-Sync in itself is not going to be a problem.. Depends on what's syncing. EVERYONE will have different battery life because everyone uses their phones differently. Different configurations, different accounts used, different amounts of traffic on those accounts, not to mention actual usage patterns.
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90% of people will have *slightly* different battery life.
5% of people will drain it fast.
5% will use it like a voice phone and might even get 16 hrs out of it.
But to turn off all apps makes for an invalid test because then you're testing the phone as if it were a non-smartphone, like a voice only phone.
I think the battery is too small for me and probably too small for most people. I look forward to fat batteries for this great phone.
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90% of people will have *slightly* different battery life.
5% of people will drain it fast.
5% will use it like a voice phone and might even get 16 hrs out of it.
But to turn off all apps makes for an invalid test because then you're testing the phone as if it were a non-smartphone, like a voice only phone.
I think the battery is too small for me and probably too small for most people. I look forward to fat batteries for this great phone.
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My wife gets 2+ days out of hers... The battery is not that much smaller than my Nexus One, a more powerful phone, and I'm a power user with a lot of crap running including IMAP push mail, weather syncing... I look in at Market, Facebook, Twitter and manually sync those types of things etc.. I can easily get a full day out of it, off charger ~8am back on the charger midnight, 20-30% left. What I don't do is sit staring at my phone all day or play games for 8 hours at work, nor do I use it as a mp3 player..