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The eLocity A7 froyo, capacitive tegrat 2 table now available. The company said this tablet will be open so i hope you guys will support it.
go to the elocity site and click on the purchase tab and then click on the BJs logo to buy. I cant post outside links yet.
Yeah i just ordered one really like the size of my galaxy tab im willing to try this out
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Just ordered one too.
I was considering a color Nook, so spending $50 more for a Tegra 2-based tablet looks like a great deal.
I hope the XDA geniuses take a run at rooting and getting Google Marketplace running on it.
got my order confirmed this morning and because they delayed it a day the itme is now out of stock and my order was cancelled oh well
I ordered mine from tigerdirect and received confirmation.
Hopefully they ship it soon.
BJs charge shipping + tax shipped to NJ comes out same price as tigerdirect.
Hardest part will be deciding selling archos 70IT or returning A7
I had one on pre-order with Amazon (for $379), but when I heard about the BJs.com thing last night, I ordered one from them. BJs.com shipped it out today, and so did Amazon... go figure! I'm sending the Amazon one back, but I should have both of them in the next couple days.
This tablet is for my wife, but I'm really hoping to see some developer support too. I'm going to see what hacking I can get away with before I give it to her on Christmas =)
Billy
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I'm interested to know which one you pick. The Archos 70 was my backup if the pre-order didn't come through.
Billy
Nice..I'm very curious how development will be on a device like this.
Hmm...I'm think Dell Streak homescreen would fit nicely
Its available again so im deciding if i should reorder or wait for a tegra tab with built in 3g >_
I'm not concerned with 3g (it has USB so I can always 4G internet share from my phone or there's wireless tethering in seconds). What I am concerned with is the screen resolution. I would imagine it has to look pretty pixelated at that size and resolution (7", 800x480, 133dpi), the Galaxy Tab is much higher at the same size screen (7"/1024x600/170 dpi). Surprisingly, the iPad has a slightly lower dpi but still looks great (9.7"/1024x768/132 dpi)..To compare to a smaller device, a Nexus One is 3.7", 800x480, 254 dpi.
Considering the price, I suppose it really can't be beat tho. IMO development makes or breaks devices like this.
Amazon actually pricematched and now are at $357 shipped (no tax to NJ ).
completely torn because io love my galaxy tab but there has yet to be any true deep development i think due to the pricing (i do appreciate the work being done currently for the galaxy tablet though)
Just ordered mine
Just ordered mine yesterday and it is on its way, ill confirm whether universal androot or z4root works asap. Also lets try to get some devs in on getting market for this puppy and maybe some themes and roms. Start posting guys!
Recieved mine today.
My first android device
I'm looking forward to learning how this thing works.
So far, it is really fast.
Seems like a very generic tablet.
Doesn't have Android Market; Getjar instead.
No google apps.
No calendar.
No notepad.
Basic email and browser (w/flash 10.1 installed) included.
Not sure where to start...
I did install Swype and it works great! That is one of the main reasons I bought a tablet!
BTW, bought mine from BJS.com for $299 plus tax and shipping. No membership required. No surcharge for nonmembers.
Ordered yesterday, got it today!
Hey jazz how are the viewing angles on the device any way you can host some photos?
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Mine will be here within hours, but I have one very important question for those already with the device. How many simultaneous points can the touchscreen register? Their official spec-sheet says it's a 1-point with pinch-zoom gesture :/
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Recieved mine today.
My first android device
I'm looking forward to learning how this thing works.
So far, it is really fast.
Seems like a very generic tablet.
Doesn't have Android Market; Getjar instead.
No google apps.
No calendar.
No notepad.
Basic email and browser (w/flash 10.1 installed) included.
Not sure where to start...
I did install Swype and it works great! That is one of the main reasons I bought a tablet!
BTW, bought mine from BJS.com for $299 plus tax and shipping. No membership required. No surcharge for nonmembers.
Ordered yesterday, got it today!
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I have soo many questions:
Lets start with the easy:
1)screen- how are viewing angles. I currently have the vewsonic gtablet and plan on returning it due to lousy viewing angles. Also how is the 800x480 resolution whihc some were suggesting might be too low (galaxy tab and nook color are 1024x600)
2)Battery life. My viewsonic is claimed to have 8-10 hours battery life. How is this smaller device
3)Form factor. How does it feel in the hand. Well balanced? easy to type with? Can it be used one handed?
4)Connectivity. Is absence of wireless N an issue? Can an external keyboard (either bluetooth or usb) work with this?
5)Hackability- I am not sure if you plan to or have tried but being on xda I think you would; can u root it with z4root or androot? Would imagine this is doable
6)UI The viewsonic stock UI layer over android is terrible and if not for other Roms it would have gone back immediately. nOw with work done here the Gtablet is fast with its tegra processor. How is the stock UI layer? is the overall experience quick? Have you run quadrant score?
I know tonnes of questions,b ut you are among the first to own this tab!!!!!
I'm a newbie, so please forgive my ignorance, so here goes:
1. multitouch works. ie. pinch to zoom. It seems to go too far when I do it, but I think that is because I hold it too long. The response is extremely fast.
2. Battery. I've been using it for 1.5 hours so far this morning, very heavy use playing Ashphalt, Madden, web browsing, etc. Full brightness. Battery is currently at 60%.
3. I love the form factor. The case has a very slight rubberized feel. No fingerprints, except on the screen, which is glass.
4. Downloads seem very fast. I don't have an N router, so can't comment on that. I just ran Speedtest. Download speed was 12.33Mbps vs. 13.23Mbps on my laptop.
5. I just plugged a USB keyboard in and it works.
6. No hacking yet. I can't even figure out how to start and stop applications! Android is really foreign to me.
7. This device needs a calendar! I assume Google apps are the best choice? I haven't figured out how to install it.
8. No Android Marketplace either. Getjar instead.
9. Viewing angles: I don't have anything other than my laptop to compare to, so it's not fair to assess. I will take some photos of an image and upload if possible.
photos of viewing angles
Here are some photos of viewing angles.
Compared to my HP 17" 1920x1200 laptop.
Photos from face on and 30 degrees above and below.
As you can see, the screen darkens most when viewed from below. In use, I haven't had any problems at all.
ps. sorry, I just noticed that the view from above is very blurry. It still shows the brightness though. Let me know if you want more.
Also, are we going to get a dedicated forum for this device?
I have gotta say, I love swype! I'm using it right now and it is really fast!
I have been seeing mention of CM regarding installing android market and gapps. Is that clockwork mod or cyanogen? Is there a specific version for every device?
Also,i don't understand the file system on these devices.
I bought a g tablet. I feel close to it given I put in more than 30 hours going through different beta versions of alternate roms trying to get things the way they should be since out of the box it was a piece of crap. Being in canada I had driven to nearest Sears in US to Purchase it. Before the screen calibration fix I had essentially given up the inability to type properly and the horrible viewing angles and Sd card woes had me looking elsewhere.
Having tried the more expensive Galaxy Tab and finding it laggy and flash video unviewble, I decided I needed a Tegra based device. I also felt for my needs 7 inches might be better as I find typing in landscape mode hard with a 10 incher(hmm weird genital reference there LOL). I also feel that for my needs (book reading, surfing video watching, the odd game, and quick reference use) that the smaller form fact might be better given it is lighter and more portable (can fit in coat pocket....)
Heard about the ELocity and saw it available for 100$ less than what ipaid for g tab. so ordered it to my Brother's in Florida as will be there next week. It is already there waiting for me.
Of course since ordering it not having given the g tab back yet I have it working the way I want minus the screen viewing angles which I hate as I cant type on it when lounging unless holding it awkwardly in landscape mode using my thumbs.
Seems the Elocity has much better screen in terms of viewing angles.While lower res, the DPI is in fact the same and conforms to the Android OS max resolution of 800x480 so I suspect most apps will look correct on it. It also appears to come rooted out of the box. The UI layer on it is fast and responsive and flash is there to start. So for those considering a g tablet and don't want to muck around it works much better out of the box.
Seems it is not perfect yet and suffers many of the same issues the G tablet did:
Like the gtablet there is no official android market
Wifi for some seems to not wake up with the device from sleep
Angry birds won't run
All of the above from what I have read seem to be related to drivers and tegra 2 not having the best or newest ones out of the box.
Elocity says a fix is coming on december 24th (wonder if this is similar to what was done by Roebeet et al. with TNT light and Vega N with the performance upgrades form experimental diver pack)
Multitouch which is supposed to be 1+1 (which I believe is what the gtab is) doesn't seem to be enabled properly and is only emulated in software, and as of yet, not very well.
Seems from some things discovered on a different thread that this might be a 2 point multitouch after all.
For some reason there is no Elocity forum yet which I think could impede people coming on and helping development on it (Notion Ink Adam has a forum though there is no device in the wild for another month at least). I suspect given these are both Tegra 2 devices that there might be some parallel things to help.
for more info and possible help either for you to give or get the biggest thread going is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872299
One professional view just out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvY8jzyCWI
One XDA member first look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6foXW1zizM
gtablet Adobe Flash update
Greetings, this may be something and may be nothing.
Just FYI –
I talked to Mike at Viewsonic support on 20101220 3:34p PST.
He advises that Staples had an in store warranty conflict and no manufacturing defect exists with the gtablet. The update scheduled for 20101219 is posted and done so in such a way that some folks see it auto-download with WIFI and some will not for approx 24 to 48 hours.
Mike also advises that the Adobe Flash update IS NOT part of the latest update however he says it is still in the works and will be updated soon.
I am still contemplating whether to return mine or not. I have had it for 27 days and it has been absolutely fabulous and beyond my expectations less the FLASH player.
I need INPUT INPUT INPUT.
Thanks - feel free to email me –
[email protected]
//ji
Can't wait
I rooted my wife's HTC Desire since it took forever for Froyo. My phone is a WinMo 6.1 HTC Touch Pro. Love it, but Android is much more user friendly.
I am anti-"any product that starts with lower case i" and I'm looking for a good tab. If the patch comes out on the 24th as promised, I'm ready to pull the trigger.
The price is just right IMHO for this tab. However, depending how dev on this tab progresses after the new update, I may wait to see what's coming at CES.
Unfortunately for my wallet, I'm an instant gratification kind of guy. I can't build my $1600 gaming rig just yet, but this just might tide me over. I'm so tired of my netbook for menial tasks. Video playback sucks.
So... who else is stoked about the A7?
Post Firmware Update
Just ordered my from J&R Music. They had it for 299.99. Once I saw the performance increase with the new update, as well as some tweaks from our freinds at XDA, it was a done deal.
Ordered an 16 Micro SD with it, and I couldn't be more excited. I just sold my netbook, and this will its replacement. The netbook was great for light surfing, Skype, and email. It chugged at everthing else. Intel's GMA graphics on netbooks just suck! Here comes nVidia!
elocity
I just ordered from shopnbc. I used the flexpay option as this option is more pocket friendly for me at the moment. I'm returning my nook color because tomorrow marks the 14th day and won't be returnable after 15 days. The video presentation on that site played angry birds, video and flash on a website without issues. I can't wait till it gets here!
HELP
I know this is a dumb question but how can i get google market on my ELOCITY A7.
Thanks for any HELP/answers.
camaroone.
camaroone said:
I know this is a dumb question but how can i get google market on my ELOCITY A7.
Thanks for any HELP/answers.
camaroone.
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I took a hit for the team... I modded my eLocity to the newest modware; eLocityMod 1.4.1. Now all my downloaded games, and apps work PERFECT. I now have the Google Market as well as the Amazon AppStore. Angry Birds RIO works like a dream ! The only problem I am having with the new Mod is that I can not hot swap USB drives. I got to boot up the device with the USB thumb drive already inserted so that the eLocity will recognize it.
should i buy a vega because i have always fancied it but never put down the cash.
So what is it like to use?
Does the tegra 2 really preform in games?
and what are the chances of getting honeycomb when it source code is released because i see u have cm7 allready which is promising and honeycomb would make it a definate yes!!
cheers, Adam
For the price the advent vega is great. The tegra chipset is more than powerful enough to handle everyday activities, nice and smooth. Game performance is good, but with future updates i think it will be even quicker. Honeycomb will come to are device, i have no doubt on that. Its just will it be official or a custom rom from one of are (or other great mobile site) Great dev's
I have had mine since Christmas, and i have no regrets.
Hard to say if YOU should buy it...
I have no regrets but I can see myself going for a higher res tablet once those come out (the currently announced honeycomb tablets).
The screen is the only real disadvantage of this tablet, regarding viewing angles and perhaps resolution. (About android, android 2.2 is ok for tablets... not the best but works just fine. Really hope honeycomb will become available though.)
But for regular browsing, watching videos, listening to some music, checking some email, playing the occasional game (I'm not a gamer though) it's just fine and imo certainly worth the money.
Lo there,
the vega is a nice "cheap" piece of kit.
Do not expect to have an ipad like experience though, and out the box its a bit poo.
You definitly have to be prepared to have a fiddle to get the best out of it.
Rgds
L
cheers guys
i have heard it is a bit ram out of the box but i dont mind custom romming it it would be the second thing i do after turn it on!
I do really hope it can get honeycomb because that would make it a real i pad competitor for £250
It does seem well suited to honeycomb since it has no physical buttons, tegera 2, and a ten inch display which is what the xoom and galay pad are. but alot more moneys!
Do not underestimate the effect of the screen. You use a tablet interacting through an user interface with a screen. The UI here is Android, which is top... but the screen is bottom. Seriously. I would have shelled out 60 euro extra for a better screen.
Logseman said:
Do not underestimate the effect of the screen. You use a tablet interacting through an user interface with a screen. The UI here is Android, which is top... but the screen is bottom. Seriously. I would have shelled out 60 euro extra for a better screen.
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really? what else is their out their for that price and whats so bad about it the viewing angles?
The bad viewing angles make tasks like reading or watching videos while lying on bed a more straining task than it ought to. Plus, they strain the eyes more than better screens. That said, no tablet offers what the AV gives for its value, especially for mod-savvy use like the folks here or in MoDaCo.
Cheers thats what seems to be the general consensus. I cant justify the big price tags my self and i think i could live with pore viewing angles.
Plus im hopeful for honecome for this which shouldnt be too hard to build from source code since it has no cellular capabilities or gps which will mean their are less things to fix. WiFi would probably be an issue but fixable and personally i dont care about bluetooth.
if it gets this it will realy add value because the only niggles seem to be the screen and software!
well I have the galaxy tab...but miss the large screen of the ipad..(gave to son for xmas)....so I ordered a vega and it arrives wed morning..so will see if it does me...obviously will have to mod it..will just try the add on first...market etc...then try it out for a week and if happy enough will sell the galaxy tab..
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Gotta say, ive had no issues with viewing angles at all in real world use.
Its definatly not great, especially when comared to an ipad, but i use m vega to read books, graphic novels, watch videos etc and unless youre a quality nut, the vega is perfectly useable, for the price.
I think of the vega as more of a kit or scratchbuilt pad rather than a finely honed apple product so i put up with its shortcomings.
Rgds
L
The viewing angles are a bit dodgy but bareablyr, tbh I Havnt touched ny vega for over 2 months, I just don't really have a use for it right now, but as soon as honeycomb offically/gets ported onto the vega I'm going to start from scratch on this beast, start bringing it to work, etc...
Right now its just not 100% for me, something is missing, I don't know what apart from honeycombskis.
By the way, in no way do I regret buying it though, under the bareable screen is a beast begging to be unleashed, just a matter of time...PLUS the support for the product from officials is outatanding, I have seen the best customer support and its still going...they actually listen to their customers which is a good strategy!
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kalfou said:
The viewing angles are a bit dodgy but bareablyr, tbh I Havnt touched ny vega for over 2 months, I just don't really have a use for it right now, but as soon as honeycomb offically/gets ported onto the vega I'm going to start from scratch on this beast, start bringing it to work, etc...
Right now its just not 100% for me, something is missing, I don't know what apart from honeycombskis.
By the way, in no way do I regret buying it though, under the bareable screen is a beast begging to be unleashed, just a matter of time...PLUS the support for the product from officials is outatanding, I have seen the best customer support and its still going...they actually listen to their customers which is a good strategy!
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I agree with the customer service statement - just have a look over at MoDaCo!
Also, I can't wait for honeycomb too. It'll be great. If you want a preview just search for the sdk on google, bing etc.
I am still on my 14 day return and have been thinking about this. Android biggest problem is something new is always right around the corner. I think a lot of you are here cause the Asus was unavailable and may still be waiting on that.
So are you keeping it.
Did it surprise you enough to stay with it.
Is the upcoming Samsung Galazy Tab 10.1 or the burning desire to have the Transformer gonna make you take it back.
Maybe the Toshiba Tab with it's built in USB might persuade you.
Sticking. Stuck.
I bought the Acer because the ASUS wasn't available, but I'm quite happy with it anyway. As you said, there's always something new around the corner, but what I've seen about the Toshiba models put them in the Xoom price range, and I haven't seen pricing on the Samsung 8.9 and 10.1 (new thin models, not the 10.1V original design.)
Honeycomb in general's still a very new system, and I expect by this time next year most of the things we're looking at as "missing" or "broken" will be available and/or fixed. Kinda the way I'm still using my (original generation) Droid phone, which, when overclocked and ROMd over to Gingerbread is just fine
Actually...
I figured that I'd get it to play with Honeycomb and wait for some of the vaporware tablets to emerge. I had bought a Xoom but it was a real POS - nothing worked including the falsely advertised charging dock, etc. So I returned it.
Now I'm absolutely keeping the Iconia - I have a rooted Nook Color - very nice but not in the same league as the Iconia.
Don't believe all the BS put out about how bad the screen is, or other stuff.
I rooted it (easiest root I have ever done) and everything works as advertiszed.
I still got until Monday wiki decide Saturday if I will return or not to get the transfoemer, tegra 3 tablets are also coming out in august
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Got both the Asus and the iconia and will keep the iconia ..
The Asus just feels so cheaply made that no amount of screen quality can make up for it feeling like a cheap toy in my hands.
I can understand the whole IPS vs standard screen debate as i have owned many great screens over the years including IPS desktop screens and iPads etc etc .
They both have there pros and there cons but a good screen and good build quality are more important to me and the whole USB host thing built in without the need for a dock or separate accessory is just great.
Will never need a keyboard attached to it either and i think thats what really pushed me over the edge to keep the Acer.
Not slamming on the Asus btw because its decent in other areas but after getting 2 with some nasty light bleed on top of questionable build quality the Acer just took the crown for overall winner .
I am keeping mine. I actually had a Xoom first and took it back...thought it was too expensive for what it was. I actually really like the Acer better. I love the USB port, the micro card slot actually works ( didn't on xoom as of yet), It feels a lot lighter and I actually like the bezel being larger as it is easier to hold without hitting the screen. The viewing angle is good (not sure why bad comments on that). I like it a lot.
Keeping. Was waiting on the Asus, but i'm more than happy with the screen of the Acer, absolutely love the usb port, and since removing the phone apks, I have no complaints about battery life. I'm happy.
Right before I got the Acer I had purchased a used Galaxy Tab 7" thinking that would satisfy me.
Then I saw the Acer. Once I touched it I fell instantly in love and fought myself not to give into temptation everyday. Suddenly it hit me... I have a Bestbuy card and it means I can take 18 months to pay for it without a dime of interest.
1/2 hour later I had the Iconia in my sweaty hands.
Sure the wife *****ed but hey, it's only a new toy once.
For me it's a keeper. Like others have said, the USB port is a big factor and I see nothing wrong with the screen.
Keepin'. I am surprised how much I enjoy the Acer iconia Tab. The USB port makes all the difference. I think the build quality is very nice indeed and I really like the design. Root doesn't hurt either.
I was an early adopter of the Linux Eee Pcs and thought they were very solid little machines, but later models had some serious build quality issues. So the Eee Transformer quality/build problems I have read about do not surprise me one bit. . . .
Also have the Galaxy Tab 7" and a Nook Color. Not sure which one of those I'm sticking with though. I like them both but I leaning toward the Nook and selling the Galaxy Tab on Ebay.
Keeping for sure
I will be taking mine back, but only cause I will be waiting for Samsung galaxy tab 10.1. The weight of the Acer is an issue for me, but can understand why it is. Feels very sturdy. I absolutely love the USB port & sdcard working out of the box. So testing the Acer gave me a few things to think about far as what I want in a tablet. I know Galaxy tab 10.1 will not have USB port. Not sure how Toshiba's will feel.
I definitely recommend people to try the Acer
Also the corners of acer are kind of pointy if holding for awhile.
def keeping mine. I don't know why the Asus got so much media and Acer didnt
I'm still on the fence. I'm coming from daily use of a convertible Fujitsu with stylus and have wanted something this light for a while and miss not having a stylus for normal handwriting.
There are also some things I may not be able to live without which require Window$ but I'm going to give it another week and see if I can see a way to fit it into my normal working life.
If there weren't things that were broken out of the box (gps, compass) I'd probably be leaning more towards keeping at this point
Took a day or two to work out a couple of bugs, but now my A500 is rock solid, smoking fast, amazing battery life. I'm 100% satisfied. This should be fine for me until a Tegra 4 comes out in 2012...
The only thing I am waiting for is a new kernel so I can see what this baby will do when it is overclocked.
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Took a day or two to work out a couple of bugs, but now my A500 is rock solid, smoking fast, amazing battery life. I'm 100% satisfied. This should be fine for me until a Tegra 4 comes out in 2012...
The only thing I am waiting for is a new kernel so I can see what this baby will do when it is overclocked.
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-Immediately did a factory reset. Eliminated problem with screen coming back on after screen time out and an odd problem I had with my screen timeout being stuck at 15 seconds.
-Rooted with GingerBreak (make sure you lock in portrait during process)
-WPA supplicant
-changed phone.apk and telephony___.apk to .bak to kill the phone processes. Mad a HUGE improvement in an already satisfactory battery life. WARNING: This will brick your phone if you do a factory reset without changing them back.
-Installed ADW for my home screen
-Installed SyncSMS to get SMS functionality
Apps that help:
-GingerBreak
-Root Explorer
-Terminal Emulator
-Uninstaller for Root
-Super Manager
-ES File
Apps I love:
-PlayOn: Streaming TV from my NAS drive
-SugarSync: All my work docs in the cloud
-WinAmp: Sync music with my desktop over wifi
-Feedly: Google RSS feed looks like a magazine
-Chrome to Phone
Still on the edge
I like the screen and feel of it, but with Honeycomb there aren't many apps out there that run on it (without FC all the time).
I'm trying to justify keeping it for work, but there's no Activesync (without rooting), Calendar is a joke and other than playing movies/games on it what do YOU use it for?
I can't see dumping my laptop anytime soon, so my question is what are you using it for? Serious question.
Thanks
S
I wanted the EEE TF as well but got the Iconia in the interim. I'm pleasantly surprised. I don't want the TF anymore. After playing with a friends, I'm not convinced it's worthwhile to exchange them. It has a gorgeous display and is a tad lighter but I'm afraid I've been jaded by the really bad things I've read about it and am convinced the first batch was very shoddy. Unfortunately, by the time it's released there will be competitors with possibly better options (toshiba, samsung, sony, htc, etc.)
My goal is to get something I'm 100% happy with. I'm 98% happy with the Iconia.
What's in that 2%? Limited video file and format playing ability and bugs due to Honeycomb right now.
Otherwise, hell yeah! I'd have liked an IPS screen. This AUO screen isn't bad at all but it's no IPS, right? Acer could have at least pegged Samsung for PLS.
It's also in wrestling with the idea of having the faith in Acer to believe they really will update and fix these things in the near future. These companies aren't known for keeping their products updated beyond a certain period. I can easily see their promised June update becoming Samsung-esque and not seen for months if ever.
That being said, I've entertained the idea of returning it and waiting to see what I can get in June. But tech is tricky and if you decide to wait, you can easily end up waiting forever for the next best thing as it's always around the corner. If the competitors are too expensive, it's not like the A500 won't be there for me to fall back on, it may even be cheaper! Of course, just like a cell phone - once you own one of these things you come to depend on it rather quickly if you're used to doing things a certain way.
I use it for everything now. My notebook sits in it's bag most of the time.
It's awesome for multimedia, period.
I use it in the kitchen and around the house to play music and videos if I don't feel like sitting in front of the TV.
I use it in the kitchen to look up new and different things to cook.
I use it as a visual remote for my PC (to control music or manipulate downloads). I use it in the couch to look up stuff I see on TV.
I bring it with me EVERYWHERE, yes...I now own a manbag.
I use it on the road when I'm out with the wife and she's in Macys/JCPenny/Kohls or any of those places I don't feel like venturing with her into for hours.
I use it when I'm at the cafe or out at dinner. I don't have it out all the time, but it's with me in case I want to use it and I must say, it's nicer than flipping out a netbook which I guess is ironic but I always thought that was so odd looking. You know, when people pop their netbooks out on a table in the middle of 4 people being social. For me it's a matter of looking up something quick and then popping it back in.
The list goes on and on.
It's basically replaced my android phone in its smart abilities while managing to be more comfortable in that the screen is bigger. It's replaced my notebook in it's lighter tasks like multimedia due to it being ultimately way, way more portable and touchscreen.
My dilemma is living without it for 2 months while I wait for something that I'm hoping will satisfy me 99 or 100%, should I decide to return it. I still have a few days to decide.
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Calendar is a joke
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Hello all. I'm on a bit of a budget and I'm going to buy one of these two tablets. Right now I'm leaning towards the a500. Was hoping to get some input and opinions on what you think I should do. I realize posting this in this forum I might get slightly biased opinions, so be it.
The only thing that makes me hesitate on the Acer is it has a slightly slower processor out of the box, but we're only talking .2ghz. What has the Acer been OC'd to still running stable?
Also, I see the wifi card uses the 2.4ghz spectrum, I believe this should allow me to tether this to my evo 3d with no problems?
Lastly, if anyone has anything to add, or something else I should consider before purchasing, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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The touchpad doesn't run android and only has a port of cm7 which I think is still in beta/alpha. And they're extremely hard to get your hands on one for the price it has been lowered to. And the iconia can be had for $299 for the 16gb model on black friday
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I would prefer the Touchpad if I could choose again. This is a personal experience for me, and I didn't have a good one with this honeycomb tablet. It has quite a few bugs that a lot of android users are facing, but could be avoided if a custom rom that fixes the bugs is installed, which voids your warranty. Also, Most Honeycomb tablets have the so called "Portrait lag", which makes the tablet slightly choppy or jittery (depends on roms, how much choppy) when it's in a portrait mode. In landscape, it's perfectly smooth. And if you would like to use the tablet in both orientation, I would first wait if the ICS fixes all the issues including the portrait lag. This lag is present in EVERY SINGLE rom I've tried (can't be avoided). Some people are actually saying that ICS will most likely fix the bugs, but bring different bugs to the android tablets. We have to try the ICS on tablets to know for sure. Anyway this is only my opinion, and again, if I could choose, I wouldn't buy an android tablet. I am actually thinking of selling this and getting a Touchpad soon..
Again, this is just my opinion, so all android fans, don't bash on me.
sw6lee said:
I would prefer the Touchpad if I could choose again. This is a personal experience for me, and I didn't have a good one with this honeycomb tablet. It has quite a few bugs that a lot of android users are facing, but could be avoided if a custom rom that fixes the bugs is installed, which voids your warranty. Also, Most Honeycomb tablets have the so called "Portrait lag", which makes the tablet slightly choppy or jittery (depends on roms, how much choppy) when it's in a portrait mode. In landscape, it's perfectly smooth. And if you would like to use the tablet in both orientation, I would first wait if the ICS fixes all the issues including the portrait lag. This lag is present in EVERY SINGLE rom I've tried (can't be avoided). Some people are actually saying that ICS will most likely fix the bugs, but bring different bugs to the android tablets. We have to try the ICS on tablets to know for sure. Anyway this is only my opinion, and again, if I could choose, I wouldn't buy an android tablet. I am actually thinking of selling this and getting a Touchpad soon..
Again, this is just my opinion, so all android fans, don't bash on me.
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Although this is not the first time I've heard of what's been described as "portrait lag", I've never paid attention to it, as my tab stays locked in landscape (personally don't understand why people even use portrait mode, no offense intended).
So I just took it out of lock for the first time since June, when you had to run Gingerbreak locked in portrait mode IIRC.
I just ran through a dozen pages in browser, books, documents, ran through my apps, all my home screens, etc., and experienced nothing close to lag. Could someone maybe elaborate a bit more on the experience please?
tyia
The lag is terrible in 3.1 but it seems to have gone away in 3.2. I haven't used web OS since the 1st palm pre for sprint and although it looks very elegant there isn't enough devs for it and is possibly done with for good which means no future support. Now its been rumored the iconia will see an official release of ics so it will make this tab feel brand new again. The only reason I could see myself getting the touchpad would be to run cm7/9 on it but its a very nice looking piece of hardware. And I'm not an android fan boy. I do have the iconia tab and an evo3d but I also have a ipad and iPod touch so I'm kinda into everything.
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kjy2010 said:
Although this is not the first time I've heard of what's been described as "portrait lag", I've never paid attention to it, as my tab stays locked in landscape (personally don't understand why people even use portrait mode, no offense intended).
So I just took it out of lock for the first time since June, when you had to run Gingerbreak locked in portrait mode IIRC.
I just ran through a dozen pages in browser, books, documents, ran through my apps, all my home screens, etc., and experienced nothing close to lag. Could someone maybe elaborate a bit more on the experience please?
tyia
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I use portrait mode, because Google is so stupid that they put the status bar on the bottom and made the already narrow 16:9 tablet even narrower and its very annoying to browse the wn where you can see only small amount of the website at a time. This is also why I prefer 4:3 Touchpad. If the status bar is on one side of the screen, say like archos 101 G8, then I personally think it will make viewing web more pleasant. Same goes to PDF, document reading. Portrait mode is much better for that IMO.
And you may have misunderstood what I said, so let me clarify. The bug is called portrait 'lag' but its not lag, but as I explained, its choppiness, and jitteriness (is this even a word..? Lol). It gives users not so good experience. At least to me.
Just wanted to clarify.
Thanks for the responses, gives me more to think about. I probably should wait for the next generation of tabs, but I don't feel like dropping $600+ on one.
Right now I'm probably 65/35 in favor of the a500.
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For the record, my A500 can run stable at 1.6 GHz, though I keep it at 1.4 to be reasonable.... the Tegra 2 seems to overclock well.
Just want to chime in on OC..with Thor's v13 ROM, my a500 oc'ed to 1.5G stable day to day operation
Running 1.68ghtz. Thors 3.9R3 kernel.
But really, who would even try to compare a TP to an Iconia? Especially considering they are no longer in production (unless you buy a notebook pc, then they toss one in).
HP never was really known for support, but, if you wanna get a discontinued item, hey, you get what you pay for
And talk about backtracking;
1. Let's merge with Compaq (2 losers become 1 big loser)
2. Let's buyout Palm, and change the name to Pre, now lets kill the line
3. Let's put out a tab, but nobody wants it
4. Let's kill the tab line
5. Oh, let's also get out of the PC business as well
6. Wait, all the tabs sold at 99 bucks, let's make another 1/4 mil units
7. Wait, we were kidding, we're not getting outta the PC business
8. And those extra tabs??? well, gotta buy a notebook to get one
Is this a company you really want to do business with?
flonker said:
Thanks for the responses, gives me more to think about. I probably should wait for the next generation of tabs, but I don't feel like dropping $600+ on one.
Right now I'm probably 65/35 in favor of the a500.
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If you're going to get an A500 wait until Black Friday, it's only a week away
I have both & use both as intended (for entertainment, quick email, etc.). For better support, I would stick with the Acer unit, even though very good community support is provided for the HP unit, it still is considered a "dead" unit.
i say buy the touchpad. as of now, cm7 runs pretty damn well and webos is a true gem for when you just want to browse, play emulators, use social apps, or schedule your calendar.
Battery life is also phenomenal.
Thanks again for the responses... Can I hit thanks in the xda app somehow? Or, do I have to fire up my laptop?
I had the original Palm Pre and the only real problem I had with it was it's build quality, but I liked webos. Yes, it's a dead OS, but if I can dual boot into a stable version of android that is fine. The build quality on the HP touchpad seems to be excellent as well.
However, I see myself mainly running android, and would think a device where it is the native OS would probably be the best in terms of community/developer support. I've also never had a honeycomb device and it would fun to play around with until ICS.
That being said, I'm a bit worried of build quality with the Acer. I noticed a door covering the microSD slot, and it seemed kinda flimsy.
I figure I can get both for $300 new, but the touchpad would also come with some extras like the folio case and Bluetooth keyboard for that price.
I'm going to get the Acer. The feature that put it over the top? It's getting a port of GTA 3, it had better be a good port. lol.
If you actually took the time to read through this post, please resume living your life immediately.
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The sd/sim port, indeed can seem a bit weak, but, once you know how to get it off correctly, it's ok. Took mine off numerous times and no issues. But it's been a month since i needed to remove it, so it doesn't happen every day. Just don't be the hulk, as really it's easy.
The android community is number one, bar none.
But really, for a few dollars more, you can get the 501 with 3g (just don't get it from at&t as it's sim locked.
I just love rubbing in my download speeds with my friend (iPad owner). He stopped playing games with me. Or when I flash a new rom in 5 minutes, with a completely different theme and look.
The best is when I whip out my 320gb ext HDD and play films.
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kjy2010 said:
If you're going to get an A500 wait until Black Friday, it's only a week away
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In the states that is...
They are like apples and oranges. Both are sweet, but oh, so different.
I bought the 16GB Touchpad from a local Walmart on the morning of the fire sale. I would not have done so otherwise. Do I regret the purchase? No. Do I use it often? No. I am much more interested in my Acer A500 or my little Galaxy Tab 7". They are versatile and FUN! I use whatever device is handy and is charged. That means I also use my 1st gen iPad as much as any other tablet. I just picked up a refurbished Acer W500, so that is my current plaything.
Follow your bliss or your wallet, whatever works, works.
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Running 1.68ghtz. Thors 3.9R3 kernel.
But really, who would even try to compare a TP to an Iconia? Especially considering they are no longer in production (unless you buy a notebook pc, then they toss one in).
HP never was really known for support, but, if you wanna get a discontinued item, hey, you get what you pay for
And talk about backtracking;
1. Let's merge with Compaq (2 losers become 1 big loser)
2. Let's buyout Palm, and change the name to Pre, now lets kill the line
3. Let's put out a tab, but nobody wants it
4. Let's kill the tab line
5. Oh, let's also get out of the PC business as well
6. Wait, all the tabs sold at 99 bucks, let's make another 1/4 mil units
7. Wait, we were kidding, we're not getting outta the PC business
8. And those extra tabs??? well, gotta buy a notebook to get one
Is this a company you really want to do business with?
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LOL. You hit the nail right on the head I'd love to get a TP if I can only find one for $100.It woul be a nice toy to play with for Android ports, but nothing serious. When I first heard of the firesale (literally a couple hours after HP announced it), I dropped into all nearby electronic stores and they were already sold out. I'm seeing all kinds on classifies sites like kijiji and craigslist but they're all $250-300 which is more than I'd like to pay.
So if you can get one for $100, go for it. Otherwise, I'd either recommend the A500 or wait 1-2 months for a newer Tegra 3 device.
Acer all the way.
As of now the Touchpad is dead with webOS and not stable enough with android yet. You really can't do much with it now besides browsing the web and email. I don't like honeycomb very much but at least the Iconia will get the ICS upgrade.
I have the A500 and I am very satisfied, to say the least!
I also bought today the BB Playbook for $199cdn (the deal wasn't to be missed). Very nice machin.
Will be on sale in the US on black friday at Staples
I'd rather get a tetra based tablet, the touchpad is nice but who knows how top end games will be supported on that device. I had a nook color Flanders even the smoothness that it got to only made me want a real tablet
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