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When I flash a new Tom I of course wipe data and cache nowhere my apps seem to stay intact. Its only started doing it recently. I'm no complaining exactly but I find it odd. Its happened with multiple Roms (vanilla sense and Froyo roms) any thoughts as to why?
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It backed everything up the first time you used a Cyanogen rom, and will keep doing it every time you flash another rom with Cyanogen in it.
ah ok. Makes sense. Not a bad feature I just didn't realize it did that. Thanks for the help.
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I have a few questions.
I understand there are official updates for our phones 2.1->2.2 but they are operator based. So there are customized roms, that are with custom stuff.
I'm really intereseted in upgrading from 2.1 official rom to a custom, but dont know exactly which one to choose.
I once flashed a 2.2 but it bricked my phone, so i had it repaired (the phone didnt respond to any key combinations or anything at all).
So is there any point to upgrade if there isnt any stable roms.
And also why is everyone waiting for the official update from samsung when there are already 2.2 roms for 5800.
Lagfix seems like a thing to try out, but i want to be sure which rom is the best and so that the basic stuff works.
Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..
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Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..
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Thanks for your reply, that's what i wanted to know. I was thinking the same thing that probably the custom roms arent stable enough and that the official update still aint available.
Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?
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Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?
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is it safe and works fine just like the default 2.1 that we have in our phones?
Sure ^^ and you cant brick your phone if you dont flash your bootloader^^ jpf also works faster^^ i would recommend to flash a custom rom. Like lestatious one. Everything works well on it^^ have fun
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just dont flash the bootloader and you can always reenter download mode.
backing up isn't that big of an issue, titanium backup backs up pretty much everything.
If you're planning on using titanium, just be aware that you should only restore non android apps when switching from eclair to froyo..i tried this and kept getting fc's. Just make backups of stuff in the individual apps like contacts etc, then restore them after you upgrade to froyo. Then make a full titanium backup of everything once you have your phone the way you want it. From then on you can just test any rom you like and always have a quick easy way of getting your stuff back. I recommend using astro to backup titanium so you can have a version to hand after flashing.
P.S. I use jfp ultra clean and it rocks my socks
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Ok, i might try out the stock 2.2 rom... But what about lagfixes or are they even neccessary on 2.2?
Cause my current 2.1 stock rom is really laggy, i remove tasks to clean up memory but it's still kinda slow.
Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.
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Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.
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So the jpf rom isnt europe or just needs some configs like that? But is the stock rom the best option, i don't neccessarily need all those extra stuff like samsung apps and layar etc. Pauri mentioned lestatious rom, its on JPA, for example. Is each one one of those stock roms like an update with still some bugs on them or just converted from other phone updates?
I'm between that custom rom and the JPF stock right now..
Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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i guess i'll take your word for it and try out the JPF
i flashed the JPF and so far so good. It's atleast twice as fast as the stock 2.1 i had. Thanks you all for help
one more question, how do i root froyo 2.2 ?
i tried the one click method, after the command running it said everything is fine you're rooted. In recovery mode i tried to install update.zip but it didnt work.
havent see any alternatives for 2.2
can anyone help?
I was experimenting with some themes this afternoon, but before doing so, made a nandroid backup. At the time, I was running ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.0.8
After I had changed a ton of stuff around, I wanted to go back to my previous setup, so I restored the backup I had just made an hour earlier. Everything seemed to go smoothly until I would get to my lockscreen, and then it would immediately jump back to the boot animation. I found this odd since my backup was done from a stable setup, and even the theming hadn't introduced any instabilities. It didn't make any sense that restoring would create a bootloop situation.
So I tried restoring the backup again. No dice: more bootloops.
Tried a factory wipe, then a restore. No good.
Tried a factory wipe, then restoring an older backup I have. No good.
Factory wipe + old backup + fix permissions. No good.
This went on and on. I tried various combinations of wiping, restoring, fixing, and flashing. I spent almost 60 minutes trying over and over again (I'm quite the stubborn bastard when it comes to troubleshooting)
Then I remembered that I still had a PB31IMG on the sdcard root that contained recovery 2.5.0.5. With nothing to lose, I reverted my recovery from 3.0.0.8 to 2.5.0.5. I then restored my most recent backup (the one that absolutely refused to work after being restored from 3.0.0.8) and it booted perfectly on the first attempt.
*sigh*
This is the first problem that CWM 3.0.0.8 has given me, but it's a pretty big problem. This isn't the first time I've restored a backup using CWM 3.x - the other times went fine. But that's almost more troubling to me: I'd rather have a predictable problem than an unpredictable one.
If I want to keep flashing some of the newer kernel/roms, I'll have to keep using CWM 3.x... but for the foreseeable future, I'm definitely keeping the 2.x recovery on my sdcard for quick access from hboot. If you flash/recover a lot, and want a little extra insurance for those times that you aren't near a desktop, you might want to consider the same.
Agree 100% on this. Koush is trying to force developers to use different scripting, sadly many are not, and the users suffer. Mucho respect for koush, but this hurts more than helps, imho.
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The scripts that you are talking about flashing have been depreciated. AOSP Gingerbread doesn't use them at all. Koush actually kept the old scripting for support. So koush was actually being nice. But since GB is new and doesn't support it he moved to the current scripting language. Even so I'm still staying at. 2.5.x recovery as it supports both, since i don't want to convert my old scripts.
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Agree 100% on this. Koush is trying to force developers to use different scripting, sadly many are not, and the users suffer. Mucho respect for koush, but this hurts more than helps, imho.
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Thanks for the input.
I may misunderstand the technicals, but what I mean to convey is that most users would prefer, imo, to have flexibility to flash/restore what they want, without issue, gingerbread or not.
That said, absent using a different recovery, users are stuck with fragmentation in their ability to backup/flash/restore seamlessly.
Are you saying the latest CWM allows users to flash/restore either GB or non roms w/ or without new scripting built in?
My post wasn't at ALL to ding devs or Koush, rather, expressing user opinion and shared difficulty to flash/restore like its was before CWM changed.
I'm super grateful to the devs and Koush for providing what they do, and humbled at the technical expertise of our group of devs, and Koush.
As a user, I don't really understand what depricated means, all I know is I cannot flash whatever and be able to backup/restore like I once could. That's the pain point.
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Are you saying the latest CWM allows users to flash/restore either GB or non roms w/ or without new scripting built in?
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Only for flashing roms.
As a user, I don't really understand what depricated means, all I know is I cannot flash whatever and be able to backup/restore like I once could. That's the pain point.
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Depreciated means we use something newer but the old still exist.
I recomend the 2.x.x.x recoverys for now, until more devs choose to use the upgraded scripts.
Edit: sorry for flashing roms its the other way around. We can flash the new roms using the older recoveries. Not the other way around
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Genuine appreciation for your kind response, the education, and for what you do for the community.
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Here is some info about the recoveries http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970032
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I have been noticing that my google maps acts a little funny but still gives me right directions. The turn by turn doesn't seem to work anymore for example; doesnt tell me when to turn and etc.. And also it always says searching for GPS at the bottom doesnt matter if im inside or outside a building, which was not like that before GB update. Any fixes?
I also had this problem , I factory reset and the problem was still there. I ended up rooting my device and getting an app called faster fix which fixes the gps problems.
I don't know if thats the way you want to go, it was the only way I got it to work properly , plus you can lose all network bloat if you have a branded device
Also I saw this which may be of interest?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101066
Something else on gps , a bit more on the hardware side though.
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Did you root a custom rom or stock rom? Because im trying to figure out how to root stock GB rom.
gmjnguyen said:
Did you root a custom rom or stock rom? Because im trying to figure out how to root stock GB rom.
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I had to downgrade first and then root . This would be good enough for you to get the faster fix app , and who knows you may go custom for a while
Try this post out , it contains all the info you need on rooting , and many more things besides.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
'search is your friend' , I found that out quite quickly on here , so many people have similar issues sometimes and you can find good answers in no time.
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For those of you who are having FC's or reboot problems, I recommend trying this (on all roms):
clear cache / DC 3x
flash the rom form the sd card
immediately flash the rom again
Do all of this without rebooting. What ive noticed a LOT is that I often get curious issues with roms, and then I flash them again and dont get those issues anymore (--or, I get a different set of curious issues). Since i do everything else the same, it seems that it must have been the flash that was problematic. just as we have grown accustomed to wipe data multiple times to ensure a successful clear, we should also become accustomed to flashing (especially for larger files more prone to exhibiting problems) multiple times to ensure a clean and successful write.
I know there was a GB ram leakage problem with EG22/EH06 which was causing reboots, but even with these roms you shouldnt be experiencing FC's right out of the box. A lot of people have claimed to run EH17 without any reboots (or FCs) so you too should be able to experience it. Good luck all.
PS - If you have Journaling OFF, make sure your phone doesn't die due to lack of power! Keep it charged. Four times so far I've been thrown into the chaos of "The application Google services Framework has stopped unexpectedly," due to letting un-journaled phones die. Now, I just keep it on for data safety / integrity.
First. Good tip.
you'll probably get flamed for posting this in development though.
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ksmullins88 said:
First. Good tip.
you'll probably get flamed for posting this in development though.
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We are a kinder, gentler community lately..lol
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JohnCorleone said:
We are a kinder, gentler community lately..lol
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thank god lol
I brought the lighters, let's getm,,,,, oh, well damn, good tip man.
You know I have never had to flash anything twice and things go pretty well with my flashes for the most part but I do one thing that isn't usually mentioned. After I do all the wipes 3x (data cache dalvik) I go into mounts and storage and I format data cache and system. The data and cache obviously have already been formatted but none of the wipes ever touch system. The ROM script must do that I guess, but I figure why not play it safe and personally clean all the file systems... Works for me.
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I have been doing thing for a long time. Because of the same weird kinda thing you found.
Good post
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thanx for the tip man.....will try next time I flash a new ROM
this is what i did after seeingit in a post and mines is runnign goood so far ...question how do u know if journaling is on or off
great tip.. im about to try it RIGHT NOW.. I have wiped and reinstalled roms for the past 2 days now.. because I keep getting reboots and force closes.. even before I try to install any new apps.. im now on a rooted stock deodexed EG22.. that I just flashed about 2 hours ago.. I will now try a custom rom and fash twice and see how it works out for me..
This sounded interesting so I broke my vow not to flash gingerbread again until it was released. I decided to do everything differently than I had in all the previous installs and follow the OPs directions. I'm running EC05 rooted with CWM, so I downloaded the stock odex EH17 zip, followed the clearing suggestions in this post, and flashed EH17 in CWM. Flashed it twice as suggested. Flashed SU, and rebooted.
Long story short, after about 90 minutes it rebooted on its own.
Glad I made a nandroid backup before I started this, because I'm back on stock EC05 rooted again.
all gb roms will have fc's; this is just a procedure to make sure that the fc's you Do experience are caused by errors in the rom's programming as opposed to flashing errors =]
i too am on rking's ec05
Uthman said:
all gb roms will have fc's; this is just a procedure to make sure that the fc's you Do experience are caused by errors in the rom's programming as opposed to flashing errors =]
i too am on rking's ec05
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I don't get any FCs on Hurricane 1.6. AND no reboots whatsoever with the Tegrak/SetCPU fix in the other thread.
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Can someone link to the fix?
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I can also assure everyone, turning your head to the right, while flashing, improves the data connection speeds with any GB modem.
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I don't get any FCs on Hurricane 1.6. AND no reboots whatsoever with the Tegrak/SetCPU fix in the other thread.
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I had great success with EH17 using the Tegrak config along with the EH17Plus Kernel. Also, I found that the only time I did get a reboot was when I was using the hotspot or wireless tether. But it only happened when the phone got hot and was NOT on the charger. No reboots at all when tethering if I had the phone plugged into the charger, or during any other usage. I recently went back to EC05 to use the SRF1.2 ROM. EH17's modem was a lot faster too, imo. Going back when more ROMs become available.
Also, I tried Hurricane but got fc's. I'll try it again with the doube flash. I liked it otherwise. Now that I think about it, I was flashing modems and started getting fc's on SRF1.2. But none after I flashed it again (double). So this may be the trick if you're having fc's.
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ROM: SRF 1.2
Kernel: Revolted
Modem: EC05
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Can someone link to the fix?
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I can get you a link later. On my phone right now. But what I can do is go post in it and move it up to the top. It is in this forum marked possible fix for random reboots on GB leaks.
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