I'm posting to the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 forum, but my question is really about the several tablets similar to it.
I've been disappointed at how slow Samsung has been on software updates to the Galaxy phones. Still no GB on the US models. On the other end the Nexus phones are developer reference platforms and get the first updates from Google.
Are any of the tablets similar to the SG10.1 (Xoom, Ideapad, Thrive, Transformer, Viewsonic,..) better choices from the standpoint of getting software updates.
As far as I know Google doesn't have a developer reference tablet that they directly support, but what comes the closest?
The Xoom is the the "flagship" Honeycomb tablet, so it will always receive updates first. In fact, Xooms are already on Android version 3.2.
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The Xoom is the the "flagship" Honeycomb tablet, so it will always receive updates first. In fact, Xooms are already on Android version 3.2.
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Only for those in US. Many people in UK have bought Xoom's thinking this was the same situation but Motorola have admitted that the US Xoom is the only Xoom that is a Google Experience Device. Non-US Xooms are not. I personally think Motorola have grossly missold Xoom's in UK and possibly many other non-US locations as well. I feel sorry for those who have purchased the Xoom under this pretence who are still stuck with Android 3.0 despite US Xoom's being 2 Android versions ahead.
Pretty poor show by Motorola if you ask me.
Too bad the flagship honeycomb device is Motorola.
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And had a terrible launch strategy. Can only buy it with a data contract? No thanks.
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The Xoom is the the "flagship" Honeycomb tablet, so it will always receive updates first. In fact, Xooms are already on Android version 3.2.
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To be more precise, only xoom wi-fi version. Verizon 3g doesn't come under google experience flagship tablet.
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The Xoom but I love My Galaxy tab 10.1
Does it matter anymore? I thought i read that google was done with honeycomb after 3.2 and no further updates would be done. I could be wrong, made this up due to lack of sleep, or something else.
I believe the Xoom is the first to be updated. I feel SGT is the last.
TouchWiz
I see that Samsung is rolling out the proprietary TouchWiz update
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/27/samsung-to-roll-out-galaxy-tab-10-1-touchwiz-ux-update-on-august/
Does this mean that the Galaxy Tab going forward will have a harder time keeping up with Google updates.
Is there ever going to be a "Nexus" tablet with updates directly from Google?
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Is there ever going to be a "Nexus" tablet with updates directly from Google?
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Let me check my crystal ball or call Andy Rubin.....
I don't think anybody can answer that. Until it's announced, it's all speculation. There was talk of one before I/O, but it didn't happen.
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Also the Xoom will be receiving Honeycomb 3.1 update TODAY
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?
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Also the Xoom will be receiving Honeycomb 3.1 update TODAY
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?
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I believe they stated that "other" Honeycomb devices would receive the update in the coming weeks. So, yes, I'm worried until the sources hit and we get custom roms. Then not so worried anymore.
it all depends on how quickly acer gives an update.. can we not install the honeycomb 3.1 as it is as there is very little change made to the OS by acer or do i have to root it before doing it?
Well I'm worried, I think I'm taking mine back tonight as its tthe last day of my return. If the bootloader is cracked or Acer makes some statement or releases an update in the coming weeks than I'll buy it again. Otherwise ill see what the Samsung is all about.
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Also the Xoom will be receiving Honeycomb 3.1 update TODAY
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?
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Not worried. The Xoom wifi-only doesn't even have an update date yet. Most likely they just wanted to get it out quickly for all the Xoom 3g folks that have had buyer's remorse creeping up on them since launch.
Per msnbc.com
"It's weird that Google is singling out the Xoom, on the tablet side. We've already tested three Honeycomb tablets in addition to the Xoom: LG G-Slate, Acer Iconia A500 and Asus EeePad Transformer, and they all work about the same, and share the same basic specs. Presumably they will be included in the whole "coming weeks" thing, but if not, that will be bad."
I agree with this; not worried. They said that others were going to be available at a later time (coming weeks).
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from Google's I/O keynote today
no mention of Acer in this announcement.
What about you guys, worried about updates from Acer now?
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First of all, lets give them sometime for the update to go out to the 'other' devices.
If Acer updates our Iconias, then all is well. If not, well just have to rape their support pages/email/everything
Not sure I see anything too ominous in this announcement. On the plus side, the consortium is designed to reduce fragmentation, a huge complaint from the Google developer/user community. Perhaps Google's influence will prevail over the commercial monsters.
Just because Acer wasn't mentioned doesn't really portend anything bad, IMO. Not sure if they're just courting the flagship platforms and using them for an example, but I doubt seriously that means they're ignoring all the other platforms.
Sure, I'd like to see an update from the manufacturer, but I'd rather have a recovery first. I mean, I've only had the device for 2 weeks. How greedy can I really get?
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Not sure I see anything too ominous in this announcement. On the plus side, the consortium is designed to reduce fragmentation, a huge complaint from the Google developer/user community. Perhaps Google's influence will prevail over the commercial monsters.
Just because Acer wasn't mentioned doesn't really portend anything bad, IMO. Not sure if they're just courting the flagship platforms and using them for an example, but I doubt seriously that means they're ignoring all the other platforms.
Sure, I'd like to see an update from the manufacturer, but I'd rather have a recovery first. I mean, I've only had the device for 2 weeks. How greedy can I really get?
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I need to know they will be able to get recovery which is why I'm taking mine back. If recovery becomes available, I will purchase it again.
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I'm more concerned that the movie tab isn't available to us. Will it happen in a few weeks or does it require the drm hardware the Acer is missing.
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I'm not worried at all - about not seeing the onslaught of 'this update sucks' threads.
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I need to know they will be able to get recovery which is why I'm taking mine back. If recovery becomes available, I will purchase it again.
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Looks like you should have bought a Xoom or Tranformer.
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Looks like you should have bought a Xoom or Tranformer.
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Yeah.....
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What movie tab?
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What movie tab?
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I think he's referring to Google's newly announced movie rental service.
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Well, if he would of read further down the announcement its only available on the web at the moment with an update to the xoom coming and than the Rest of us will follow
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This sounds alot like the hysteria over updates Windows Phone 7 ,most of the **** isnt even noticable, the I cant wait for it to be perfect crowd!My suggestion is let Steven Jobs aupply you with there version of perfect and quit whining ,thank god the devs arent a bunch of titty sucking cry babies!
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Not worried, Acer states they will release updates by June on their a500 website. My guess is 3.1 will be coming then as well:
"720p is the current resolution supported. 1080p will be available by June 2011 via software upgrade. "
It surprises me how many folks are returning these so fast. Gotta have some patience...everything will progress forward, it just takes longer than 14 days most of the time. Of course something better will come, it always does. But this is still a nice device for the times. I knew I was an early adopter of the OS and the hardware when I bought...I'm in for the long haul unless something breaks
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Not worried, Acer states they will release updates by June on their a500 website. My guess is 3.1 will be coming then as well:
"720p is the current resolution supported. 1080p will be available by June 2011 via software upgrade. "
It surprises me how many folks are returning these so fast. Gotta have some patience...everything will progress forward, it just takes longer than 14 days most of the time. Of course something better will come, it always does. But this is still a nice device for the times. I knew I was an early adopter of the OS and the hardware when I bought...I'm in for the long haul unless something breaks
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I agree, people tend to get overeager when the newest updates come out and tend to forget the big picture or the fact that the A500 is still a great device that you can actually buy today!
The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.
Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.
Dont know
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.
I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol
There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else
I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?
I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.
Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.
Thanks for making my point.
Mr. Schmidt in a 2 second quote confirms ICS to be released in October/November of this year. We already knew sometime in Q4, but it's good to hear an official confirmation!
Droid Life News: Eric Schmidt: Ice Cream Sandwich Coming In October/November
Just looking out!
hopefully that equals nexus prime and/or xoom2 being released by thanksgiving
For some reason I've been pretty much banking on the fact that ICS is coming out in October. I can't remember where I heard it (or even if I heard it), but October/November cannot come soon enough.
I had my mind set on December for some reason, so keeping to that so not to dissapointed by the delays.
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But will the Xoom get it?
That's the big question, especially setting as Google now own Motorola too.
I'm hopeful.
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But will the Xoom get it?
That's the big question, especially setting as Google now own Motorola too.
I'm hopeful.
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Not to be anal about it but Google does not own Motorola yet. Google as entered into a definitive agreement (i.e. contractually binding) to purchase Motorola Mobility but it still has to go through regulatory approval in US and EU before it can be completed. The acquisition will probably not be complete before Q1 2012.
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Not to be anal about it but Google does not own Motorola yet. Google as entered into a definitive agreement (i.e. contractually binding) to purchase Motorola Mobility but it still has to go through regulatory approval in US and EU before it can be completed. The acquisition will probably not be complete before Q1 2012.
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I must admit that this would be a smart move on Google's part. I mean... I love the Droid's: I think they are the best by far. And with Verizon's network and their 4G LTE speeds, and with the release of the Droid Bionic, we have another epic phone joining Team Droid.
If Google were to buy out Motorola Mobility, would this make the Droid family the new Nexus? Meaning... the Droid brand would then belong to Google? If so, I am looking forward to that! The Droid's would become the official Google devices that get all the updates first.
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I must admit that this would be a smart move on Google's part. I mean... I love the Droid's: I think they are the best by far. And with Verizon's network and their 4G LTE speeds, and with the release of the Droid Bionic, we have another epic phone joining Team Droid.
If Google were to buy out Motorola Mobility, would this make the Droid family the new Nexus? Meaning... the Droid brand would then belong to Google? If so, I am looking forward to that! The Droid's would become the official Google devices that get all the updates first.
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Well Google has said that Motorola will be kept as a separate entity and they would still have to go through the same process as everyone else to be able to make the next Nexus phone.
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Well Google has said that Motorola will be kept as a separate entity and they would still have to go through the same process as everyone else to be able to make the next Nexus phone.
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Yeah after looking at an article about this I see that now. Still would be a neat thought if the Droid family was the official name brand for the official Google devices.
anyone see that news saying thyxe think the nexus prime will now be called samsung galaxy nexus?
rubbish name IMO makes the Nexus phone sound more like a spin-off of a Samsung Galaxy range and not a Google phone... pft.
anyway I think and hope that the Xoom gets an update - there doesnt seem to be any big 'a new ICS tablet' rumors really around the corner - not like there was with the HC Nexus tablet of the past... and didnt they show ICS on the Xoom at Google I/O?
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anyone see that news saying thyxe think the nexus prime will now be called samsung galaxy nexus?
rubbish name IMO makes the Nexus phone sound more like a spin-off of a Samsung Galaxy range and not a Google phone... pft.
anyway I think and hope that the Xoom gets an update - there doesnt seem to be any big 'a new ICS tablet' rumors really around the corner - not like there was with the HC Nexus tablet of the past... and didnt they show ICS on the Xoom at Google I/O?
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I'm sure if anything can handle gb then it can handle ics so our xooms being a ged we should get ics preety fast.
Also I.hope that random tipster was talking crap about galaxy nexus. Nexus prime/three/HD would all be fine.
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I'm sure if anything can handle gb then it can handle ics so our xooms being a ged we should get ics preety fast.
Also I.hope that random tipster was talking crap about galaxy nexus. Nexus prime/three/HD would all be fine.
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Yup.
Samsung Nexus whatever fine, but Samsung Galaxy Nexus seems too much leaning on Samsung's end than Googles... if its suppose to be a GED you'd expect more from Google end than the manufacturer...
anyway - not long to go - surprised there isnt a countdown somewhere
Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,
3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.
The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.
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These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.
Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.
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It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
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i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.
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Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
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I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.
Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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I reaaly hope we will be first again for honeycomb updates.
We will get it. How fast depends on model. The wifi will be the first to have it most likely with the 4g version getting 4 to 6 weeks later after Verizon gives it the OK. How long the delay between announcement and push is up to Motorola and how long they have been working with it. If past performance is any indicator then at least two other tablets will have it before we do.
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
kenfly said:
anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Let me just consult my magic 8 ball...
jerses said:
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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The source code WILL be made available. Rubin said so in the past, when pointed out that HC sources were MIA, and he explained the reason for it, saying at the same time that Android sources will be again public once they reunify the 2.x and 3.x platforms into a cleaner, multi-devices software base.
Keep in mind that it's not just the OS based on the open source code that makes the tablet. Look at all those cheap Android 2.1/2.2 tablets - one of the things they often lack is access to the Android Market (in addition to using resistive screens, low performance SoCs, etc...). I suspect that you have to pay a license to Google to be allowed to bundle Google apps such as the official Android Market (someone might confirm this for me). This is where a major player like Samsung or Asus will distinguish itself from your average inexpensive Chinese-made tablet.
So, no reason at all for Google to refuse to distribute the code. Don't forget that the fact it's open-sourced is one of the main reasons behind its popularity.
So in the end, I'm fairly confident the Xoom will get ICS. If not from Morotola, then through unofficial builds from the public repository, like Cyanogen does for phones under 2.x.
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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Same day brah
Motorola Xoom to be first Ice Cream Sandwich tablet? http://goo.gl/611fi Shared with APPY Geek (http://www.appy-geek.com
hopefully this rumor is true
Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high. Which tablets got 3.1 first? Which received 3.2 first? There's your answer.
Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
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>Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high.
The Xoom isn't an official reference device, and it isn't a refdev for ICS. My guess is that ICS update will come from your friendly custom ROM sooner than from Moto-Goog, as else the new FamilyEd Xoom will need to be updated as well, which probably won't happen any time soon given its new low-end status. Prioritizing and differentiation will mean the focus of development will be on the Xoom2 toys. That's how it has always worked.
The good news is that with ICS hitting AOS, custom ROMs will get better, sooner. In tandem with the above, there'll be more reasons for you to go offroad with ICS, if you haven't already.
>You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
If reports are true, LTE mod will eat up more juice and reduce operating hours.
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
iammodo said:
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
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It has been this way for the US Xoom. Until now, Google has been the one who has pushed updates for US Xoom, so there is hope we will get ICS at some point, but i don't believe it's going to happen today. The reference SoC for ICS is TI OMAP, so it doesn't look good for our Tegra powered Xooms.
>I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Apple isn't that different. Old toys don't get the new-fangled Siri thingie.
The 2nd-gen of Android tabs (mostly OMAP4) are only marginally better than the Teg2 hardware wise. ICS will be the big selling point. Differentiation means you don't let old toys have the same functions as the new, as that defeats the purpose of selling new toys.
Speaking of new toys, I like the MotoACTV. The first wearable (and likely hackable) Android device. It would be neat if one can shoehorn a full-fledged Android distro in there. Display is tiny, probably 320x240, but good enough for niche uses. Pricing is outrageous, but it'll drop soon enough.
no release date for ics....just for the nexus on november
they did release the SDK today tho !!!! gonna play with it now
jerses said:
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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actually the Source Code is already on AOSP's website for developers.
pardon my ignorance but sdk is good for making roms or just to make apps for it...or just to release hacks for other platforms like 3.2.2 ,etc. i just know its good lol but dont know what good it can be.
With the Galaxy Nexus not being released until sometime in November I think we may be waiting until December for an official release. Hope the devs can pull a rabbit out of a hat.
SDK could bring us a release but hardware acceleration is unlikely until we see the official release.
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