I updated to mango beta and followed the steps to backup and now that the firmware update is out I went back to restore and it doesn't show up in Zune. I read the post about where backups are located and it show my files there that I did do a backup. Any hints on what I am doing wrong
I've got the same problem..
From what I have read, after the back up has been made you need to save it somewhere else on your computer too, because the Zune software will overwrite it. Im hoping that there is a way to get a stock back up or recover overwritten once. If anyone knows anything else that would be awesome!
Hopefully you guys are official devs... As Microsoft will offer you assistance if you are...
Otherwise you will most likely have to save whatever backups you have an hope that the community helps you. The problem with that is you'll probably not get the firmware until around Mango officially comes out and the hacker community starts dealing with all those who ignore the warnings from Microsoft...
MS docs were pretty clear.. yo, after you make the restore point.. make a copy of it.
Zurvv said:
MS docs were pretty clear.. yo, after you make the restore point.. make a copy of it.
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I have three backups/restore points saved in my premangostate folder though, Im not sure what Im doing wrong..
Could you attach one of your restore points here so I may take a look at it? Please attach the oldest one, also, if I get it to work I'll give you a step-by-step instruction on how to do it.
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Could you attach one of your restore points here so I may take a look at it? Please attach the oldest one, also, if I get it to work I'll give you a step-by-step instruction on how to do it.
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Thank you! I don't think I can upload it onto xda but I will try to upload it to a file sharing site soon, I'm unable to at the moment
gauravr88 said:
Thank you! I don't think I can upload it onto xda but I will try to upload it to a file sharing site soon, I'm unable to at the moment
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I'm only able to provide a part of the file itself, the whole thing is about 3.8 GB but since megaupload only lets me share a certain amount I put in a small sample of the data files, perhaps you could just look at it and see if there is any file missing from it, I would be great.. I separated out the .dat files from the other folders it gets housed in..
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GDFEYOYK
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Objective :
Create an Update Utility based on the Windows Update in Official ROMs
Description :
My idea is to create a ROM that can be updated without the need of RUU we use now. For example, you have Core2.0n version of my ROM and since you installed it, I created another version, for example Core3. In order to update you'd normally have to download the latest ROM to your PC and re-flash your HTC Wizard.
I want to allow you to go online directly from your Wizard and check for new version. If new version found, then automatically download and flash. All you'd need is an Internet connection.
Limits/Problems :
There are some problems about this. This is where I need help.
Usually the PPC turns OFF and then the RUU writes the ROM. With the way I want it, the ROM must be written while the device is ON...and then it would do a Hard Reset in order to complete the Update.
I don't know yet if this is possible, but I am willing to try.
What I need :
People with Assembler knowledge
People with good PPC knowledge and understanding
Huge amount of luck
I remember someone here already tried to restore the Windows Update components. Unfortunately I can't remember who and if he succeeded or not.
I'll search for his thread and post any update.
The ORIGINAL thread is located HERE. Please feel free to join the development crew.
The idea looks cool, it will allow us to redistribute updates and fixes to our roms more easy
But we have to figure out how the windows update feature is working, and how it manages to flash the downloaded update
I think that it downloads the updates to the storage card (in most cases there is not enough space in storage to store whole rom image) and then instructs the boot loader to flash the file from the card (this way it will be logical)
Also that way will be similar for all devices not just the wizard.
So the rom cookers can personalize windows update settings to update their roms trough it (of course separetely for every device)
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The idea looks cool, it will allow us to redistribute updates and fixes to our roms more easy
But we have to figure out how the windows update feature is working, and how it manages to flash the downloaded update
I think that it downloads the updates to the storage card (in most cases there is not enough space in storage to store whole rom image) and then instructs the boot loader to flash the file from the card (this way it will be logical)
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I think we'll try to do that. However I doubt that Microsoft intended to use a Storage Card for update. This makes me curious on what method they would have used.
Other problem would be error checking...We must know for certain the OS is not corrupted before attempting the update.
Maybe I didn't said it...but I will say it now. My intention is only to flash through the air an OS, that means no other components, like SPL, IPL , radio or SplashScreens will be altered by the Update so no chance of bricking the device plus making the whole process easier to accomplish.
Other idea is to study the way that security programs (anti theft) use they're software so that the data is included in the rom with a simple install.(they say the program will be there even after a hard reset...though i didn't tried any)
I am sad to notice so little enthusiasm from people around here.
This would affect chefs more than regular people but still.
Back to business...
Questions :
Is it possible to flash directly the ROM with the PDA turned on ?
If so, how can we access the ROM directly ?
How to use .pkg ? Can we make use of them ?
Considering the Update deals only with relative minor changes, this means we can leave the XIP out. We can think of new Builds as major upgrades and require the use of normal flash. The big problem..and unfortunately the thing I know less about it's managing to insert the new update in a very "raw" manner.
I am firmly convinced that few people here posses the knowledge to do this.
Please come in front and let's make this thing happen.
I could try to reverse engineer the default windows update but it would take a great deal of time and I would probably get stuck without some help.
P.S. I managed to find the thread I was talking about before. It's located here.
I think is a great idea my friend. However there are many things to think before trying to do it. First of all to flash the new files you shall need to make a pdoc write but i have now idea how can be made via the device itself.
Where are the "patches" being stored before they are updated?
May be the process of hard reset shold be manual. This are only some toughts.
i would help u as much as i can...
great idea !
the update can be on the storage card and one can put the device into
bootloader/update mode by running this little program in the windows dir
to switch it to the 3 color screen.
With this WM5torage program i can acces the romchip itself and write it.
not sure wether it messes up things.
not sure if this will delete contents of the storagecard itself...
another thought... why not make the updatepackage and let windowsupdate install it for you ?
I think the best way to procede is to find out how to make a pkg file (faria seems to know) and then to sniff what the windows update app does when connecting to the MS server and see if we can emulate that on a test server.
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I think the best way to procede is to find out how to make a pkg file (faria seems to know) and then to sniff what the windows update app does when connecting to the MS server and see if we can emulate that on a test server.
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All your ideas are great. But this was exactly what i had in mind. It seems the easiest way....only so little time right now. So...where`s Faria ?
P.S. Sorry for late reply...i thought ppl don`t care and i didn`t checked the thread
Does somebody of you have such a pkg file?
As I understand it right, this file will be delivered by windows update to the client?
I never got an Update via Windows Update... Everytime I try, there are no updates available ^^
Sniffing the Windows Update would be easy, I think. I could bet that all this stuff is done via a Webservice. That's the I would do it
Has anyone ever updated anything using that Windows Update? It's highly unlikely it will download a whole new ROM, maybe just some cabs which won't touch the ROM altogether, just mess around in registry.
And who needs to keep the device on while updating if you'd make a hard reset afterwards?
It can even be done now...
any back-up program
a cook who's willing to release ROMS on some stable host (NOT rapidshare where address changes)
a diff utility to download only the parts of the ROM that changed
A small app which writes XXXXIMG.BIN to storage card and enters bootloader.
Much harder task is to get rid of ROMs altogether and take control of the only advantage they give: XIP. I mean, why don't use a tool to convert the new apps to XIP format making them a part of the ROM?
@anichillus
I can provide u with the package but it will take some time..u see i have WM6 Emulator..but cant make it to use Internet Connection of my PC..so the Update manager starts but doesent download (no connectivity)..will see what i can do
i got the internet working..but when i click update..it doesent give any packages..what now
I accidently deleted both of the Transformers movie which comes on the HTC...does anyone know how to reinstall them without resetting my phone back to default. Thx
If you deleted the files off of the sdcard, a hard reset will not bring them back. You may be able to recover them with data recovery software but it's a long shot. You could try and go to a T-Mobile store and see if they have an sdcard from a returned unit.
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If you deleted the files off of the sdcard, a hard reset will not bring them back. You may be able to recover them with data recovery software but it's a long shot. You could try and go to a T-Mobile store and see if they have an sdcard from a returned unit.
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Well, looks like I'm just going to have to let it go bc that would be a long shot. Plus, I'm sure there r other options where I could download other movies and save them to my phone, I hope...what do u think? Thx
you can try the file sharing sites worked for me when i needed to get the programs that came on the micro SD when 1st ran.
but however i had only backup my movies but not the programs.
but i have seen them on there worth a look.
ooh...ok! So, what r some good file sharing sites?
ill send you a private message
Fair warning... Discussion of "file sharing" sites or other ways of obtaining copyrighted material is frowned upon here.
Here are the .cabs that come with the factory rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653563
this happened to me also a week ago but it was on accident x[ i formated my sd cad but didnt get my moives back
help
I did the same thing and no movies as well...but, I am currently working on getting it and if I do get them back I will definitely let u know!
Ok, thanks...I am still dl and I will let u know how it goes from there...thanks a bunch!!
Hi All,
I apologize im a noob just learning my way around android and was wondering how to perform this update properly without messing anything up. I have done some searching and found some brief explanations, but was wondering if someone could possibly give me a little more thorough "how to" explanation on how to update between SD builds. Specifically AmericanAndroid 2.3.5 to the newest 2.3.7 American SD build. From what I understand i have to copy and replace the "old" android folder with the "new" update one and overwrite everything except the data.img file?? if this is correct again, if someone could explain in nooby words id appreciate it! Thanks in advance!!
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Hi All,
I apologize im a noob just learning my way around android and was wondering how to perform this update properly without messing anything up. I have done some searching and found some brief explanations, but was wondering if someone could possibly give me a little more thorough "how to" explanation on how to update between SD builds. Specifically AmericanAndroid 2.3.5 to the newest 2.3.7 American SD build. From what I understand i have to copy and replace the "old" android folder with the "new" update one and overwrite everything except the data.img file?? if this is correct again, if someone could explain in nooby words id appreciate it! Thanks in advance!!
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Yep this is completely correct. Just overwrite all the files but keep the old data.img.
Nigeldg said:
Yep this is completely correct. Just overwrite all the files but keep the old data.img.
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So i just copy and paste new Android folder into the old one, then at that point prompts will come up asking if i want to overwrite them, and click yes to all of them except for data.img?? or is there another method? Do i remove the new data.img file from the new before overwriting? Also, will This will keep all my themes and homescreen configuration the same? or will it wipe out everything? would you happen to know of a thread that explains this in detail by chance? Thanks for your help.
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So i just copy and paste new Android folder into the old one, then at that point prompts will come up asking if i want to overwrite them, and click yes to all of them except for data.img?? or is there another method? Do i remove the new data.img file from the new before overwriting? Also, will This will keep all my themes and homescreen configuration the same? or will it wipe out everything? would you happen to know of a thread that explains this in detail by chance? Thanks for your help.
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Yeah that works just fine, just make sure you don't overwrite the old data.img or you could lose all your data. In fact, you should probably make a backup of it to guarantee its safety, just copy and paste it onto your hard drive/USB somewhere. Everything will remain the same as before, just the build will be updated with new features from the new version.
Nigeldg said:
Yeah that works just fine, just make sure you don't overwrite the old data.img or you could lose all your data. In fact, you should probably make a backup of it to guarantee its safety, just copy and paste it onto your hard drive/USB somewhere. Everything will remain the same as before, just the build will be updated with new features from the new version.
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Perfect! Thanks. i feel much more confident about going into it. Sorry about all the questions. i usually just go for the most part by trial and error, but being this is my wifes phone, and she hates losing settings etc i wanted to make sure i had this pretty much figured out. again really appreciate all your help!
Hi,
I got a phone for development with rom version kh2, and now i had to give it back. So i bought an used omnia 7 and now i want to transfer the backup of the first device to the new. The new have a rom KI4.
I modified all the guids in the zune backup and recalculated the sha1 hash on the manifest file. The zune restarted the phone, did something in the backround which took a lot of time and then without restoration, restarted the phone again. Nothing happend.
Is somebody now why?
razor11 said:
Hi,
I got a phone for development with rom version kh2, and now i had to give it back. So i bought an used omnia 7 and now i want to transfer the backup of the first device to the new. The new have a rom KI4.
I modified all the guids in the zune backup and recalculated the sha1 hash on the manifest file. The zune restarted the phone, did something in the backround which took a lot of time and then without restoration, restarted the phone again. Nothing happend.
Is somebody now why?
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Sorry but I don't think you can move backups between phones. Something to do with encryption I think...
Unless somebody can prove me wrong?..
Also, why do you want to put the backup on the new one?
Because im lazy to install everything again, and i have game stats on the backup.
I actually did that a while back.. After I got a replacement phone from Samsung. Go to the folder where the backups are stored, note that if you copy the backup there and connect your new phone and launch zune the backup will be deleted, so copy it there after doing that. Press update in the settings menu in zune, and select restore. Its a few moths since I did that, and they might have done something with the new phone in order to make it work, but it might be worth a try.
Could someone elaborate a bit more about what files to change?
Thanks
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Could someone elaborate a bit more about what files to change?
Thanks
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If you download the mango development beta manual, you will find out where the backups are stored on your hard drive.
I know where the files are. I'm just wondering if there is a difference between Mac and Windows as i have a directory (named with the guid?) and (depending on backup size) several hundred files in it.
The manifest seems to be missing tho...
Hello,
Hoping someone could clear up a couple things for me. At my work we use the mc9090 RFID scanners which run windows mobile 6.1 currently. Currently we use motorola osupdate to push applications in a CAR file once the OS update util flashes the stock rom which are .sig files and .bin files. My question is do i have any chance of dumping the rom and if so would I be able to get it back on the device. Currently i was able to use imgfs tools to dump the os partition into a .raw files but that is as far as i got with dumping. So since they are signed files how would or is it possible for me to get them back on the device? I just didn't want to waste anymore time if i am not going to get anywhere on this. Also not saying that I would be able to use it but is package builder for wm what actually generates the .sig files?
Any ideas about how i could make this work would be awesome or any other ideas. The goal here is for us to have a base wm6.1 with all of our software on it and configured when we image a gun. I am sure motorola would hook us up with microsoft to do this but trying to figure out if anyway i could pull this off internally since we update so much..
thanks
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Hello,
Hoping someone could clear up a couple things for me. At my work we use the mc9090 RFID scanners which run windows mobile 6.1 currently. Currently we use motorola osupdate to push applications in a CAR file once the OS update util flashes the stock rom which are .sig files and .bin files. My question is do i have any chance of dumping the rom and if so would I be able to get it back on the device. Currently i was able to use imgfs tools to dump the os partition into a .raw files but that is as far as i got with dumping. So since they are signed files how would or is it possible for me to get them back on the device? I just didn't want to waste anymore time if i am not going to get anywhere on this. Also not saying that I would be able to use it but is package builder for wm what actually generates the .sig files?
Any ideas about how i could make this work would be awesome or any other ideas. The goal here is for us to have a base wm6.1 with all of our software on it and configured when we image a gun. I am sure motorola would hook us up with microsoft to do this but trying to figure out if anyway i could pull this off internally since we update so much..
thanks
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My suggestion is to set up one of your devices with all the setting and configurations exactly the way you want them, and then image that device using a program like Sprite Backup http://www.spritesoftware.com/ It's a tool I use to keep my device secure, since I do a lot of tweaking on it.This way, if any of my adjustments end up breaking it, I can always restore to a configuration that I know works. The same principal should work for what you need.
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My suggestion is to set up one of your devices with all the setting and configurations exactly the way you want them, and then image that device using a program like Sprite Backup http://www.spritesoftware.com/ It's a tool I use to keep my device secure, since I do a lot of tweaking on it.This way, if any of my adjustments end up breaking it, I can always restore to a configuration that I know works. The same principal should work for what you need.
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We tried sprite clone in the beginning and didn't work out right. Some stuff didn't come across right, so not saying i havent learned
enough now to fix that stuff but as far as us implementing it i don't see that happening.
I will give it another look since we have 100 licenses :]